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#81 - bodasion (10/24/2012) [-]
I'm sure we all understood President Obama's original point, which is that using Governor Romney's metric is absurd. A single American supercarrier today would probably be able to demolish America's Navy back in 1916. In other words, anybody counting ships to determine how the Navy should operate just isn't thinking right. President Obama had a point, there.
But, since we're getting gritty, let's get gritty. President Obama used the year 1917, whereas Governor Romney actually said 1916. In 1917, America was fully embroiled in World War I and had an active draft. In 1916, America did not. So, it's probably true that America had less bayonets in 1916, but President Obama was talking about 1917. America does have ~1.5 million troops, yes, but we don't give the guys in the Air Force bayonets, do we? I was talking about Marines and Army Soldiers, but I should have been clearer. My apologies. Together, we have ~750,000 Marines and Army Soldiers. The Pentagon recently stated that between the Marines and the Army Soldier (and Navy and Air Force, both of which have zero), America's Armed Forces have about 750,000 bayonets.
In 1917, we had 1,000,000 American Soldiers and Marines in Europe, all of whom had bayonets. As such, President Obama's claim, i.e., we have "fewer" bayonets now than we did in 1917, is factually correct.
You can go on to state that since Governor Romney used the year 1916, that doesn't count, and that's fine, but keep in mind that America actually currently has more ships than we did in 1916 (but less ships than we had in 1917), unlike Governor Romney stated.
#98 - ilikebigdick (10/24/2012) [-]
Romney first said 1917, Obama said 1916 when he commented on it right after. I understand the measurement of power is different and I only believe that we have to retire the Nimitz class in the next 10 years and bring in the next generation.
The number of active ships in the Navy as of September last year is 285 ships. At the end of WWI it was at 774 active ships, so I won't argue that.
On the size of the armed forces: there are 1.4 million active duty members across the 5 major branches.
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