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#6 - awesomescorpion (02/09/2014) [-]
Basically, because the allies were jealous of how good Germany was at winning the war, and how naïve the Weimar republic was. The Weimar republic was the first democratic German nation, formed after a minor revolution in which the German emperor was thrown off and a democracy was installed.
For more detail, we will have to dive into some complications during the first World War and a few key situations before that.
Austria-Hungary had an alliance with the German Empire, for both nations were Germanic in nature, and there was a risk due to the alliance with, well, the allies. Why did the allies form an alliance? Same reason: common fear and polarization. But the main reason was an excuse for inter-European conquest. Anyway, all mayor European countries and armies were allied together in a complicated web which drew all countries into the war which would inevitably unfold.
Though the spark which started the first World War is commonly known, it is not important. Its location laid in a dispute between Serbia and Austria-Hungary. Quick escalations (mostly due to unreasonable Austrian demands) led to an official declaration of war. However, Serbia was the first to call upon the alliance web, drawing in the Russian Empire. Austria was powerful, but incapable of handling Russia alone, so they drew in Germany. Russia couldn't handle both Germanic empires, so they drew the UK and France, and this unfolding of the alliances eventually led to the Allies v.s. the Axis.
Now, two empires broke apart during the War. Firstly, Russia, forming into the Soviet Union in 1917. The German east front mostly cleared, many forces were transported to the west front, where the US, France and the UK were stuck in stalemate with the Germans. Austria-Hungary was pretty much Yugoslavia v.s. Hungary at the moment.
However, the German Emperor grew more and more unpopular as he forced his people further and further in an attempt to break the wall (CONT in #6)
#7 - awesomescorpion (02/09/2014) [-]
(CONT from #5)
between the Allies and Germany. Eventually the German people were fed up enough, and threw the Emperor off the throne. However, the Allies saw their chance and overwhelmed the young and inexperienced republic of Weimar with the treaty of Versailles. Even though the Weimar Republic considered this treaty as hostile as it was, they did not expect the Allies to be as exhausted as they were, and considered themselves too weak to negotiate further. Hindsight observations proved both of these assumptions wrong, but the treaty was signed before those observations were made.
The hostility of the "dictate" of Versailles did not originate out of thin air. It came directly out of fear for the German war machine, as was not unfounded several decades later. The allies who signed the dictate attempted to limit Germany as much as possible, and surprisingly for them, they agreed, where any other nation on Earth would refuse to sign. So essentially, they were jealous of Germany's army.
#11 - gerfox (02/09/2014) [-]
Also, regarding the treaty of Versailles.
The Germans had to accept their fate, simply because the war had cost them so much that they weren't in a place to deny anything.
Also, it was mostly the French who feared the Germans - and who wished for revenge after losing the war of 1871 against Bismark, which was a huge humiliation for them (and effectively deposed Napoleon III). They insisted on the huge war reparations, and on taking back Alsace and Lorraine from Germany.
The US on the other hand was more skeptical, and more willing to let Germany off easy. Hoover (I believe), was more interested in the dismantling of Austria-Hungary, and the creation of nation states in central Europe. In the end they agreed, mostly, to all of the Anglo-French claims.
#10 - gerfox (02/09/2014) [-]
Nice summary, remember also that the huge Ottoman empire was dismantled due to the great war.
Also, proclaiming Austria-Hungary as a Germanic nation is a bit misleading. Yes, the major ethnicity in the country was Germanic, but the empire was a melting pot of ethnicities and religions - and none had the majority. There were already tensions between Austria-Hungary and Russia before the war, due to Russia wish to establish(or expand) a "Slav" empire to include all Slavs.
Also, there hadn't been any major war in Europe since the Reunification of Germany and the French-German war of 1871. Most parties in Europe felt that a war was about to unfold, and everyone sat ready with their finger on the trigger.
Serbia was allied with Russia, who was allied with France, who was allied with Great Britain. If I remember correctly GBR even considered not participating in the war for some time? Nice seeing someone who obviously knows their history though!
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