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#158 - ocampo (03/30/2014) [-]
are you patrick hoban?
User avatar #159 to #158 - hoban (03/30/2014) [-]
Hey, no im not patrick sorry :S
#150 - wax (12/14/2013) [-]
Hi, thank you for mentioning me in a comment. I had a good read and I agreed with your point of views.
User avatar #151 to #150 - hoban (12/14/2013) [-]
Hmm which comment was that?
#152 to #151 - wax (12/14/2013) [-]
the one about waxing cars or something, i lied, i didnt really read it.
#153 to #152 - hoban (12/14/2013) [-]
Ah ok. well glad i could mention you and i will make a habit of it more often good sir
Ah ok. well glad i could mention you and i will make a habit of it more often good sir
#154 to #153 - wax (12/14/2013) [-]
You'd be surprised of how many people actually talk about wax, be it cars or their ******** .
User avatar #155 to #154 - hoban (12/14/2013) [-]
Wait for it chum, some day someone will be talking about waxxing their buttholes in their car, on that day your purpose will be fullfilled
#156 to #155 - wax (12/14/2013) [-]
one day. one day...
User avatar #157 to #156 - hoban (12/14/2013) [-]
On this day, bring my attention to it and we shall celebrate!
User avatar #149 - crazyolitis (12/05/2013) [-]
Oh holy jesus **** , it's been long! Care to discuss the story?
User avatar #126 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
I like the idea of him being a small-time cook in college. But what kind of universities are there in Ireland?

Sorry for the long response time, had to help my parents with their Tom Tom.
User avatar #127 to #126 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Im not sure i understand the question fully, we have universities that have courses in cooking in different aspects of course. For example baking and cheffing those sorts of things.
User avatar #128 to #127 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
No, I mean like, over here in the Netherlands we have universities for mritime engineering, for technological iovation, that kind of stuff.
User avatar #129 to #128 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Ah sorry, my mind is having trouble focusing on anything at the moment for some reason.

Well we have those too but we also have broder ones, Schools that will teach alot of different subjects along with IT's that will teach pretty much anything. Although saying that if you dont want him to seem like to much of a smart person i would go for the IT as they are far less strict on acceptance (not to insult people in IT's of course):
User avatar #130 to #129 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
We could do that. We should make sure that not everything in his life is somehow beneficial to him suddenly being thrown into another world. I don't think IT would be especially good for such a thing.

Alright, so sofar we have family and friends, lifestory sort of , interests and hobbies, personality, and we are almost done with education. What step is next, you think? Which woirld he will be thrown into first?
User avatar #132 to #130 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Sorry i didnt explain myself well enough i think, are you thinking IT as the computer related subject? because in Ireland it stands for Institute of technology, its a type of college.

Hmm, well i think to really grab the readers attention there are to trains of though, We could either go down the road of a world that doesnt seem much different to begin with but is revealed to be disturbingly different or we could go with a complete different world, something more primal, maybe a semi destroyed world, what would interest you more?
User avatar #133 to #132 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
To be honest, I would like to explore the concept of Homo Sapiens dying out, instead of Homo Neanderthalensis. So basically: a world wihtout humans, but with Neanderthals. Neanderthals were quite intelligent beings, on par with humans. They had bigger brains and stronger bodies. I would like to explore this concept, but we'd need to do a bit of research, something I'm more than willing to do.
User avatar #134 to #133 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Thats pretty interesting, so a world with a type of bigger stronger human like beings? would homo sapiens have all died out in this world or is there still some in remote places? it could give us a point of reference on how the neanderthals would treat a homo sapien when meeting one.

Well i dont mind looking up some more stuff about that, have we set out minds on the earth vibration idea fully?
User avatar #136 to #134 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
By the way, you don't need to do any research at the moment. I already did a little a while ago.
User avatar #135 to #134 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
I was thinking about Homo Sapiens being in the place of the Neanderthal. Completely extinct, due to not completely known reasons.

As for the earth vibrations idea, I don't really know. But I think we might just use that, as not much other things can be used completely well for that.
User avatar #137 to #135 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Ah i see, i like that idea, ill have to do alittle research on neandthals to get a feel for them though. sorry for the long delay had to run back to the shop, gotta get me those sundried tomatos. Well i like this, also the idea of if they are like humans then they will have a violent streak and with the fact they have alot more muscle that could be horrific
User avatar #138 to #137 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Neanderthals were not that violent. They were like humans, but just a little bit rougher. They were a bit less creative and when it came to language almost simplistic, but they were by no means brutes. They cared for their weak and protected their young and their elders.

However, the fact that they were almost 100% carnivores is what can make it interesting. Because agriculture would be much harder for them. Hell, they might even still live in the stone age.
User avatar #139 to #138 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Oh i know what you mean about them not being over violent, but if they are like humans they would have that streak for being ******** in them but with the extra strength that would be alot worse then us,

100% Carnivore? now thats a semi scary thought!. So we would be talking about a more simple version of humans but without the need for farming crops, that would lend to a more nomadic way of life but we can settle them of course.

The idea of the stoneage would be abit stearotypical for this subject, maybe middle ages or a semi more modern day setting would be more appropriate?
User avatar #140 to #139 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Problem with the medieval setting, is that 90% of the people back the were farming crops. Since Neanderthals were perhaps 95% carnivores, farms would be near useless for them. I have no idea how that would work.

As for semi-modern setting, it is quite the same, to be honest.

However, we could give them limited metalworking. In places with enough food, they could be mining metal, with primitive furnaces. Perhaps they even have a bit of written language?
User avatar #143 to #140 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Sounds interesting, the idea that he may have things on him that could help his survival and acceptance is good and he may know some trapping techniques that could help.

I agree with the length of the jump, as this is his first jump he doesnt know its going to happen again, he may think thats it for him he is there now and thats where he is staying.

What angle do we come at from this? is he trying to get acceptance? is he being hunted for food? or is he being viewed with curiousity by these people?
User avatar #144 to #143 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
I'd say that he is completely confused and that he thinks it's permanent.

I'd say that at first he's trying to get acceptance, and trying to learn the language. The people don't really accept him, but as long as he keeps making the great quality knives, they are willing to have him around their fire and tend to his wounds if he has them.
User avatar #145 to #144 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Ah so they are smart enough to know a good thing when they see it.

The whole learning the language thing will be easy to do, i mean its been done 10000 times but its universal, it has to be done, so we have alot of stuff we can look at to get an idea of someone learning a language for the first time.

Ok, so i have a thought the the pressure of the first jump caused him to get knocked out as it was a huge shock to the body, if we went with that would we have them find him? maybe thinking he was a younger one of them? im going to have to watch a documentary on their behaviour to get a right feel for them
User avatar #146 to #145 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
We could do that. The huge shock could be a thing, but I do not want it to be a recurring theme. He should at least build a resistence to it, as having hem be wounded every time he jumps would be annoying after a while.

But anyway, I'm tired right now, and still have a little bit of work to do. Let's stop right here, okay? We can both watch a few documentaries on Neanderthals and really know what we are talking about next time. How does that sound?
User avatar #147 to #146 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Sure sounds like a plan, im pretty tired.

Well yeah lets say the first knocks him out and the second leaves him dazed. Knocking him out everytime would suck i mean the game of odds would have some carnivore come across him while he was out at some point.

Anyway ill look at some documentaries, Night night mate.
User avatar #148 to #147 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Alrighty then. Sleep well, and may you find the documentaries interesting.
User avatar #141 to #140 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
True. Well yeah lets give them the basic building blocks of a civilization, the idea of farming doesnt sound to far fetched to me if they are farming for the mass production of animals like cows, sheep, chickens and so on this would be a purely meat farming thing though aint no potatos for this bad boys .

It wouldnt be a bad idea to let them have a pictural language like hyroglyphics which could lead the mind to think that maybe a religon based around sun worship?

Although as we talk about this i get a very primitive picture of them, is this what we are aimming for? it also sort of helps us with some action in the first story as if they are as primitive as they seem the idea of a new, weird looking version of them would not be taking lightly.

Look at the way we treated people that where different in our past, hunted and killed them for simple appearance.

User avatar #142 to #141 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Well, given that they would have to farm insane amounts of crops in order to feed all those animals, they would not have high populations.

Religion could work. I do not think they were night-hunters, so sun worship would indeed be the most logical religion.

Well, they are kind of like bronze-age humans. Their learning ability is that of any human. As for how they interact with Markus, let's say that he is an outcast, but that his modern metalworking skills surpass that of the Neanderthals, so he is abl to survive through trade. A high-quality knife for enough food for a day, for example To be honest, I think that the first jump should only be for a few weeks or months.
User avatar #131 to #130 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Also, how he jumps.
User avatar #104 - crazyolitis (11/16/2013) [-]
Hey Hoban, tell me when you want to continue the story. It's been too long.
#105 to #104 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Hey man, sorry about not being here its been a busy few days. the girlfriends family where over. Ready when you are to get back to work.
Hey man, sorry about not being here its been a busy few days. the girlfriends family where over. Ready when you are to get back to work.
User avatar #106 to #105 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
I'm ready! Are you ready?
User avatar #107 to #106 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Yup im here and ready, where did we leave off?
User avatar #108 to #107 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
His reaction to guilt, or perhaps his lack of reaction. So we were busy with character creation. Generally an okay guy, but quick to anger. We could start improving on that, or start with other things, such as interests and stuff, which can also be quite important.
User avatar #109 to #108 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Well i was thinking about that and i thought it might be more interesting if he had little to no reaction to violent acts, just shurgs them off that way he can really suprise people in lets say a more civilized world and fit right in when it comes to a more brutal one,

Interests, Maybe if we had him into things like old warfare along with survival stuff that could add to him, not all interests should be so dead on though as they may be to "on the head" if you get me?

We could always add the idea that he was bullied as a child as that can lead an adult to become quick to anger when they have grown up, it would also give him some of the numbness towards violence, sorta that "if i didnt get him he would have got me" thing. Just some ideas.

The bullied idea doesnt have to be introduced straight away as im sure we dont intend a full character back log on the first issue or book. That would overload the reader and not give it the natural flow of getting to know the character.
User avatar #110 to #109 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
A numbness to violence might save him on multiple occasions. I think we should stick to that idea.

The interest about old warfare stuff could work in a sort of way. That way if he goes to an 'ancient' world, he could have an advantage. And interest in survival is basically crucial. Or perhaps not so much an interest, as it is just a 'side-skill' he picks up from enjoying the outdoors very much. And sadly, I do not get the "On the head", sorry. Care to ellaborate?

Not too sure how I feel about him being bullied. Rather, let's make it so that he was an easy teasing target, but not outright bullying. His numbness should come from the hunting of animals on his outdoors trips.

And having the character completely explained in the first book would be most unwise, to be honest.

As for additional interests: mild interest in metalworking, great interest in walking in nature, hanging out with friends, mild interest in music (preferring the silence of nature) and also perhaps a very small interest in cooking?
User avatar #111 to #110 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Yeah that should be a factor for sure.

Its a expression "Hitting the nail on the head" it sort of means when a point is so blunt that its obvious before being mentioned.

Yeah i agree there, the reader should feel like they are getting to know the characater over time, the same way they would with a real person.

Yeah metal and maybe wood work? would come in very handy and are things you get a basic grasp of in high school so it could play in easy. the interests seem rather normal (which is what we are aiming for).

The interest in cooking is a good idea, but lets make it basic, i dont like the idea of him hunting around the forest for the ingrediants to a cordon bleu .

We may not want to play on the complete natural side of things as most people (at least that i have known) that are like what you are describing are generally loners or very to get into a normal social setting, or is that what your aimming at?
User avatar #112 to #111 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining.

How big of a skill do we want to give him with wood and metal workig? I'd say that he would be capable of making a rough chair, but I have no idea how far in metalworking he should be able to go.

Iterestin cooing would be like that he could make a meal whcih would be at home at a decent restaurant But not even a 1-star restaurant, I mean the little ones you see in the big city centers. and his cooking skills with things he caught in the forest would be little more than skinning, cleaning and cooking. Without modern tech, such as lighters he wouldn't last more than perhaps 2-3 weeks.

And I agree that we should ot make him that much of a nature person. Let's just say that, whenever he is able to go to vacation, that 60% of the time he prefers camping/wandering. Seeing as that there aren't many forests in the Netherlands, I think Markus wouldn't wander that much at home.
User avatar #113 to #112 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Anytime.

Well from my education in woodwork in highschool i could now build a decent but small house (hate roofing but beside the point) not sure how the Netherlands treats this, in Metal work my education from highschool could be use to make weaponary (if the materials are available of course). I agree with the cooking level, that should be move the enough for him to be able to survive.

That level of nature should be fine as it gives him more then enough interest while not being far enough to be hiding up trees hissing at passing people.
User avatar #114 to #113 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Well, technical stuff was not really done that much. We built only 1 bird house, and a small sculpture. We didn't do much with metal. We did do a little bit with electronics, though, whcih required us to melt a little bit of metal, but not much. Most of it was theoretical ******** .

Good then. We have reached an agreement on that level.

Now, do you have a few other things about the thing he likes? Or should we start on the thigns he dislikes?
User avatar #115 to #114 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Well would you prefer to settle on the Irish version or the Dutch on that point?

Well nature seems like an obvious one so far, maybe an interest in hunting a camping (which you mentioned i think) but when it comes to the city lfe or town life he has, we can just make it more normal, liking things like going drinking with his friends sometimes, maybe fishing and some sort of crafting like wood work but not on a build a house level
User avatar #116 to #115 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Yeah, I think that Irish might be better. It will probably give you more work, though.

Ah yes, as for day-to-day life, let him hanging out with friends, reading books, and internetting be a hobby, along with perhaps a little bit of going to the gym?
User avatar #117 to #116 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
I dont mind the work.

Sounds good, and yeah the gym will be needed as we cant throw him into this with a keg for a belly and the tits of pamela andersen.

My reply to your next comment may be delayed i need to run to the shop.
User avatar #118 to #117 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Alright, don't worry. I'll wait.

So... let's start on the dislikes, shall we? Except for the standard dislikes of animal cruelty and unnecessary violence/cruelty although, because of his immunity to violence, not as much as the next person , he should have personal dislikes. But I just do not know what. I can't think of anything.

Also, we could give him a job as a cook in a small restaurant. Not too high up, but not too low either.
User avatar #119 to #118 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Ok

Well if we just combine our dislikes then we should come up with something for Markus, for example i hate people who are to upfront with everything that happened in there life, people who ask way to many questions and overwhelming ignorance. This are just in relation to people though as you can see. (god i hate people)
User avatar #120 to #119 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
So he dislikes people that can't shut their mouths and people that will never change their POV of the world, despite the any evidence/logic that's thrown at them? So in short: Markus hates the WBC. hue . But to be honest, I think that we could get him to be ormal without really hating many things. I think that it at the very most that he hates certain kinds of food, such as spinach or certain kinds of fish. But for the rest not many more things.
User avatar #121 to #120 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Aye that would work, although i was just listing things i hate

Well if its just a dislike of certains foods that will be easy enough to cover and doesnt really need to be pointed out alot just at random times he may be eating.

I thought you meant along the lines of what triggers this short temper of his.
User avatar #122 to #121 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
No man, I meant like disliking certain kinds of bookgenres, movies and that kind of stuff. But those kind of people will certainly be disliked. He might not be the brightest himself, but he does not like people that do not eve try to improve themselves. So, we could also give him an aversion to lazy people. Not really dislike, but more disappointment in them?
User avatar #125 to #122 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Yeah i think so as they may not play out alot in the story, well day to day id imagine he is working as a mid to low level cook while paying for school (i forgot what we settled upon him studying) while trying to keep an active social side with his small group of friends. You mentioned before that he has only had 3-4 girlfriends and the last one he loved? well in that case should we play down the love side of him for the time being as he may be still in the getting over her phase, so we can avoid adding a new love interest.
User avatar #123 to #122 - hoban (11/17/2013) [-]
Yeah he could just find them annoying. Well i dont really know aside from Romantic comedies but i think every man hates those movie wise.

User avatar #124 to #123 - crazyolitis (11/17/2013) [-]
Alrighty then. Do you think that's enough of the (dis)likes, then? Maybe we can start with day-to-day life?
#103 - crazyolitis (11/15/2013) [-]
G'day today. Are you ready to continue? Got any new ideas?
G'day today. Are you ready to continue? Got any new ideas?
#95 - crazyolitis (11/13/2013) [-]
Hellohello! Want to expand on character creation? We still missed some things. Sorry that I'm here only now, it's been a busy day.
Hellohello! Want to expand on character creation? We still missed some things. Sorry that I'm here only now, it's been a busy day.
#96 to #95 - hoban (11/13/2013) [-]
Sure man, i wont be on for long though i ahve to get off soon.    
   
What where we missing from yesterday? the back story and personality profiles of the friends?
Sure man, i wont be on for long though i ahve to get off soon.

What where we missing from yesterday? the back story and personality profiles of the friends?
User avatar #97 to #96 - crazyolitis (11/13/2013) [-]
Well, we had his educatio, social relationships, etc. done, but what about his own personality? I mean, we can't let hem be a Mary Sue, can we?

I was thinking about a normally docile guy, but with anger issues. Not very witty, but he has his moments. Isn't one of the 'honourable' types, but has a certain moral standard, even in fighting, such as no kicking in the balls.

So far, he is still quite hollow. What do you have for him?
User avatar #98 to #97 - hoban (11/13/2013) [-]
Ah i was actually thinking about this today.

I was thinking of him as a normal guy, not all shut off emotionally but not overly sharing, I dont know why (you might hate this) but i kept getting this idea of him having a terrible sense of humor, like loving puns and what not and maybe making afew that other characters just dont react too.

My main idea was for him to have a minor hero complex, Not like an overwhelming one but the way of if he see's something bad happening he will feel obligated to step in and stop it, but then again that falls under your idea of honor aswell
User avatar #99 to #98 - crazyolitis (11/13/2013) [-]
I am not too comfortable of making him a terrible pun maker. Remidns me a bit too much of myself. But then again, I could make his puns quite well, I guess.

Also, a normal guy is okay, but it would be more interestign if he had some 'deviation' form most people.

As for the hero complex, we could make that as a developing character trace. He begins off as scared in his first jump, but with each jump he becomes more confident.
User avatar #101 to #99 - hoban (11/13/2013) [-]
Im going to have to run mate, but i hope we can get more time at this tomorrow. Sorry to cut it short today but i have to be up early tomorrow.
User avatar #100 to #99 - hoban (11/13/2013) [-]
Well that would be up to you then but what i just read there was "i can write terrible puns"

Well how would you like this deviation to be played? as in slight urge to kill? a strange obsesstion? (please god not brony) or a conspiracy nut?

Yeah to have it evolve with the character would be a better idea, that way we can see the fear and pride he gets as a reward.
User avatar #102 to #100 - crazyolitis (11/13/2013) [-]
Yeah, that's basically what I meant, heh

Well, this slight deviation would be perhaps be that he can get angry a little bit quicker and a little bit more than most people. Also, for some reason, he has no regret of the things he does when he is angry. Were he to do the same things while not angry, he would even feel bad for stealing a piece of paper. And don't worry, I won't make him a brony. For your, mine and half the internet's sake. Although personally I don't really have anything against bronies

To be honest, I'd rather not that he becomes a guilt-wrecked person. I'm not really one of those people that likes the 'OH GOD WHY DID I DO THAT?!' types, even if justified.

Also, good night, bro. Sweet dreams.
User avatar #75 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Wazzup man. Ready to continue? I think we went to character creation, no? If you've got any additions/corrections to the jumps, tell me. If you've got a basic outline for the character, tell me that as well. If not, I can start with a basic outline.
User avatar #76 to #75 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Well howdy, i was thinking about it and to be honest i was coming up blank, think im over tired or something. Just to get started what age group where you thinking for the main character?
User avatar #77 to #76 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
I'd say about 20 to 30 years old. Not too young to be completely foolish, and not too old to be stiff and fragile.

While still reckless, he is still smart enough when to shut up or quit doing something. Ofcourse, this is in the beginning.

Also, for nationality, I'd think about making him either Irish (that's your nationality, right), American (standard choice for fiction, I think) or Dutch (my nationality).
User avatar #78 to #77 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Well mabye Dutch would be best, If he is Irish he will be too drunk to get anything done and also if you wanted it to be realistic then it would involve alot of swearing as in Ireland we swear................alot haha.

Shall we settle on a mid point then somewhere around the 25 mark?
User avatar #79 to #78 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Well, Irish swearing wouldn't be too bad, to be honest. Swearing isn't too bad, in my opinion. But yeah, I think European would be the best. At leas we know stuff about our own cultures and stuff.

By the way, I thought about the name 'Markus' for our character. What do you think?
User avatar #80 to #79 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Markus, i like it and to be honest the fact that it has the european spelling aswell will add to it, so, so far we have a late 20's european (probably dutch or flemish or whatever you pick) named markus. Something i was thinking last night was to give him a ****** job like working in a fast food place in a mail room somewhere, just so we can have a character that maybe shows alot of excitment towards the idea at first.

This would be good for character development i think as we could play it as "oh wow this is exciting" kind of think that evolved into a bitterness towards it after afew jumps i mean it would be thrilling at first but then realising he will never get to stay in a place for to long, never settle down, have a normal life, kids. dog, wife, mistress and all that stuff (please excuse the mistress comment my ******* mind couldnt resist).
User avatar #81 to #80 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Don't be too upset about the mistress thing.

I like it. However, I think that, at least in the first jump, he would at least be scared and confused. After a few jumps, though, he gets excited, but after a few dozen he gets tired and bitter. I mean, who wouldn't be confused if he/she would suddenly end up in a different reality.

As for the length of the stay, I'd say that it would range anywhere form a few months to a few centuries. Ofcourse, none of these is much fun, as with a few months he won't be able to really settle down, and for a few centuries, everyone he knows would die off, without him getting older, which is something ********** .

For education: let's have him do HAVO level, which is roughly the normal education in the Netherlands. Do you want him to be a student, and working a ****** job to pay for college, or that he is already looking for a new job, but works the ****** job because he has to earn some pay somehow.
User avatar #82 to #81 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
I really like that idea of him staying afew centuries we could pan that out ot a god situation where he goes to a reality thats really under developed in tech and such and he just makes things that would be consider simple to us but major steps for them.

Have him live afew centuries, what primitive culture wouldnt consider him a god?
Probably best to have him in college working **** jobs to get buy, i dont like the survival odds for a guy who has no education and stands infront of a mcdonalds fryer all day.

So Markus is a 20 something year old student working ****** jobs to get through college when this all starts, Ill get on it soon looking up things that could change the earths vibration, we smack the planet with one of those and we got ourselves afew 100 or 1000 jumpers.

Family ties, im thinking of him living with his father, no mother in the picture she could have left when he was younger (i woudlnt go down the death route as thats been done alot).

What do you think of the love life situation? i mean there could be alot of him missing his girlfriend back home and eventually forgetting about her or we could just leave him single to allow him to get guilt free interest in characters that will be main in the story.
User avatar #83 to #82 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Him staying for a few centuries does not have to happen in a primitive culture. He could suddenly go to a a sci-fi universe where all he knows is way outdated. But, once he leaves that, he will have centuries to understand the technology.

Do you need me to look for anything? Multi-verse theories, a bit of time travel, etc.?

I like the idea of him having grown up with only his father. Let's say that, even though the family is widespread, they are quite close, with about once every 2 years a reunion and stuff.

I'd say that he has had about 4 girlfriends, but at that moment he was single. Last break up was not too bad, but he is still (sort of) in love with the last girl.

We also need him to have friends. Let him be in a friend group of 4 friends, with also a few people he doesn't know too well, but still likes.
User avatar #84 to #83 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Yeah i know stay afew centuries doesnt mean its just a primative culture but the possibilty is there.

Ok i like the sounds of that with the 4 ex's and 4 close friends, i would like to play around with idea of 1 of his friends getting this ability to but of course they wouldnt know until they are already gone so no way of them know the other can do it aswell if you follow?

I would love to see Markus meet one of his friends while jumping but have it that his friend isnt do as well as Markus with the whole thing, The friend has come completly unhinged by whats been happening to him, just a thought.

Ok so far we have Markus a late 20's student working a crappy job with just few close friends and aquintances, was raised by his father (mabye never knowing his mother?) but rarely see's his father at this point in his life. This sounds good so far just need to work on the friends abit i think, if he is dutch maybe you could handle the personality of the friends as you know what people are really like there. Could throw in an Irish friend that i could cover if you want.

Question though, once we have this figured out how do we intend on getting this written? discuss story board idea and one of us writes it or take it chapter by chapter?
User avatar #85 to #84 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
I like the idea of him having a friend that jumps as well. We can do it like that Markus is the lucky one, who got to high-tech worlds from quite early on, with only the fantasy/primitive ones after that. Because of this, he is able to steer the society he has come in. His friend, however, barely survives, as he often goes to primitive worlds. If you're hiding from dragons and trying to come by from begging, you don't become strong.

To be honest, I have no idea how to get this written. I'd like to at least have a time-line that says when what happens (roughly and undetailed) and then we could start writing chapter by chapter, I guess. One of us writes, and the other corrects/changes it. Then discuss what will be changed and stuff.

But yah, we could get this idea on that board, if you'd like.
User avatar #86 to #85 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Well i think this idea has developed very well its seems more fluid, I dont know why but i have a serious urge that when Markus meets his friend he will warn him of some of the worst worlds he has been to, the line "Worlds of repiltes, Incests, Horrors and Rapturus flames." would be a cool harbringer of things to come.

I would nearly have his friend broken, the type of character that can make sense but loses himself easily ot the insanity he has been pushed into. Also the fact that the line i wrote there ties into 3 ideas that we had mentioned in passing.

I would say once we have the friends sorted then we can go straight to the first story board on this, I dont think we will have to work on the dads personality for the moment as i dont see him playing a huge part in the first few stories, but i could be wrong.

User avatar #87 to #86 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Yeah, that, if he somehow ends up in that one in the billions of worlds, that he knows what to do. Ofcourse, the multiverse is a bit smaller than what we may think. After all, Markus and his friend actually meet up at the same time. Also, it's insects, not insests. Insest is the act of havign sex with relatives

We could ahve his friend broken. Something like PTSD perhaps? With also a little bit of schizophrenia, because of long periods of isolation?

And for friends: well, he could tell tales of his friends and what he did. His father could have taught him life lessons.

And I agree, we could post it on the story board.
User avatar #88 to #87 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
jesus that was a terrible typo haha.

Thats what i was thinking PTSD schizophrenia and Insomnia brought on by nightmares of the things he has seen in his travels, the friends stories can be worked on quick enough id imagine. I like the idea of his dad teaching him life lessons, his dad could have loved hunting and could brought Markus hunting with him which would give him some basic survival skills.

Just so I am clear, when you say post it on the story board are you talking about some board on here or somewhere on the net or are we talking about a figuritive story board?
User avatar #89 to #88 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Well, to be honest, there isn't really much forest in the Netherlands. We are one of the densest populated countries in the world. Although, sometimes deer/boar population is too high and they get shot by forestguards.

As for postign it on the board: I have no idea. I thought you'd know.
User avatar #90 to #89 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Hmmm maybe hunting trips then? to near by countries?

Maybe we could use skype for story boarding? that will story our ideas for a long time.
Is there an area of the Netherlands you could suggest for this to get started in?
User avatar #91 to #90 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Well, most colleges are in the West and North, but more nature (and germany, with much nature) is the the east and south. I'd say somewhere in the province Gerlderland.

And storyboarding: what does it exactly mean?
User avatar #92 to #91 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
On a quick note i looked up things about earth vibration changes and these are some symptoms that can be felt when its changing.
Feelings of unease
* Disorientation
* ***** dreams
* Dejà vu, synchonicities, or similar phenomena
* Sleep issues
* Wanting change, but not knowing what to change

* Feeling like your personality is changing
* Wanting to end life as you know it
* Wanting to connect with people
* General malaise
* Feeling that you are receiving messages
* Feelings of fear that you can't connect to anything known

I like this alot as it would make for good story telling if Markus was getting these symptoms.

Well are you looking for this to be more of a book or a graphic novel?
User avatar #93 to #92 - crazyolitis (11/12/2013) [-]
Ah, interesting. And yes, we could use this quite well.

I don't really know. My thought would be just start writing and see where it goes to. It could be a thin piece of **** , or it could be a saga with millions of fans or some **** .

But at this moment I'm sort of busy. I'll get back to this once I am done, alrighty?
User avatar #94 to #93 - hoban (11/12/2013) [-]
Fair enough mate, well we will see how it pans out then (if it ended up having a big fan following im pretty sure i would **** myself). I will probably be heading off for the night then i will chat to you tomorrow and we can maybe get started on the first story idea.
User avatar #74 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
Hey man, next time the reply limit is there, just post the comment and write my name in it. That way I will get a notification and be able to notice that you have posted a comment. Good night, buddy. Sleep well.
User avatar #51 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
Anyway, if you've got ideas for stories, just reply to this comment.
User avatar #52 to #51 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Howdy, aside from the one i have already pitched i am blanking. I know i have afew more i just have to remember them, if you have any yourself feel free to bring them up
User avatar #53 to #52 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
Eh, not the most original, but what about this: universe jumpers. Our protagonist is an average person, but for some reason, he gets ripped away from the universe and put into another one. He as to adapt and survive to his new environment. However, after an amoutn of time, they jump again. How long he stuck is, is seemingly random. Sometimes hours, sometimes years.

Over the time, he gains more knowledge. He gains experience. He does not get older for some reason. He carries artifacts of ancient gods and sun-shattering technology from all the universes he has gone to. He is a 'mortal' who can match the Gods in knowledge, experience and power.

If he survives.

I think I heard it from somewhere before, and that it's not the best idea, but if done right, it can be made into several stories, instead of just 1.

Thoughts?
User avatar #54 to #53 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Sounds interesting. The idea of different universes gives alot of wiggle room for story development, stuff that would be impossible here could be possible in another place ( if we can find good enough reason).

Have you given any thoughts as to how this person gained this ability?
User avatar #55 to #54 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
Well, it would seems that there wasn't any cause. Just that he suddenly would jump to another reality. However, he would not be the only one. Sometimes, when he was lucky, there would be others like him. Sometimes they would be new. Their first jump. Other times they would be thousands of years old, and very experienced.

Maybe that our world, our reality is connected to all of the universes? That we are in the middle of it all?
User avatar #56 to #55 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Could work well tbh, it could be sold off as some sort of change in earth vibration that certain people are affected by? I really like that idea of it not being a single person as you can show some people just losing their minds to this, it sounds like a very good idea. Alot better then some of the t.v shows i have seen lately
User avatar #57 to #56 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
To be honest, the hardest part may be keeping the story interesting after the 100th jump and explaining in detail how and why they jump. But do you have anything to add to it? I'd love your input.
User avatar #58 to #57 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Well it depends on what direction you would want to be headed with it, i mean look at "Quantum Leap" (hope you remember that and im not being an old man) that kept going for a long time on the idea of "that last leap home". You said that in these alternate worlds the lead character could hunt for relics or artifacts of that gods? that could work with an idea i have, Lets say the worlds vidration sped up, most people didnt feel it but a certain perentage starts to change in some ways, More violent, improved muscle mass, teleportation to a degree and some (who where the hardest hit by this) where cast into alternate worlds.

Now lets say the body was trying to make up for this change by trying to match the vibration of the new world its in, the body wont be able to do it but each time it reachs the point of trying to change it can cause the body to be so out of sync another "world jump" (for lack of a better term) happens.

Lets say our lead character meets another person stuck in this, and this person may have some knowledge of old legends and religous legends. This could lead to them hunting these objects in an attempt and hope that they may be able to fix this rate of vibration, Sort of the idea of "i want this to take me home but if it doesnt at least i can make a home here without being shat out to the next universe anytime soon"

I am aware this idea may suck balls at an alarming rate but it may be something we can build on or at least get the crazy ideas flowing that might work.
User avatar #60 to #58 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
Also, Ghost B.C. is awesome. Thanks for showing me.
User avatar #59 to #58 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
I was thinking more akin to being unable to prevent a jump, but at most being able to feel it coming. As for the hunting of relics: it's more of a safeguard for in that universe and the next ones. He can try to get them, so he will at least be safe.

However, the rules change per universe. Sometimes magic does not exist in worlds, such as this one. Technology, on the other hand works all the time. But unless the protagonist is able to get technology super advanced, like roughly Warhammer 40k advanced, the magical artifacts are stronger.

Also, we need a reason why he doesn't just randomly end up somehwere in space, but rather on a livable planet.
User avatar #61 to #59 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
No problem that are awesome listening to Secular Haze as we speak.

So the items are for protection? that makes sense i mean in a world without magic people wouldnt be that pushed to hunt for them but when you may at anytime be thrown into a magic universe that item may become powerful. Could you explain the preventing a jump idea abit? like some items can stop a jump or give him the feeling that its coming?

Well the earth vibration idea gives us abit of a way out of the question of "why he doesn't just randomly end up somewhere in space" thing. There is (or was) an idea in scientific world awhile ago that many realities or worlds may exist right here around us, just vibrating at a rate that we can see or feel so while we cant see it there may be unlimited worlds living around us at the same time, This was taken up by people to explain ghosts and "shadow people" in the sense that we get a small look at this other people from time to time.

If we used this idea then we could just have the vibration of the main character change (even slightly) and it would throw him into an whole new world.
User avatar #62 to #61 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
I meant that there was no way for a jumper to stop his jump. A person with much experience can already feel tiny vibrations and can feel them up to 2 days before he jumps.

Shall I make a short list of what we already have, then? Hell, we might even get it to cross over with the Rapture idea.
User avatar #63 to #62 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Yeah sounds like a plan, this seems to be evolving easily.

That would be interesting, that could be a world he ends up jumping to at some point.
User avatar #64 to #63 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
I'll make a short list of what we've got so far, alrighty? If I miss anything, just tell me.

-Some people involuntarily jump between universes. They are called jumpers
-there are multiple of them. Sometimes even within the same universe
-the jumps are caused by earth vibrations. (We might need to do some research on this first)
-Jumpers can not control their jumps in any way. At most, they can feel it coming.
-Jumpers do not become older. Wounds, scars, and other stuff do not go away with jumping. This includes genetic modification and robotics.
-jumpers usually try to gather as much advanced technology and ancient magical artifacts as they can, so that the next universe won't be as hard to survive.
-because they do not age, and many are thousands of years old, they are extremely wise, and are basically walking libraries/wikipedia's.

That's what I got from this so far. Do you have any further additions for it?
User avatar #65 to #64 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
I think that pretty much covers the base line of it, we may need to change the name of jumpers though as it may get confused with that movie afew years back but for now i dont know anything else to call them as i dont think " ********* " would be apropriate.

That seems to be all that we need so far, I just got an idea though and wanted your opinon. With the idea of world /reality jumping somethings would be possible and somethings would not. Lets say a jumper entered a world or reality where jumping itself is not possible therefore when he ends up jumping out of it, it could cause the universe he just left to come apart, fall into chaos as the natural order was so badly damage.

If the idea of villans or hunters of these jumpers ever became an option i think this idea could work. But thats only if we wanted hunters in there, but the idea of destroying a universe from something you can control or at least screwing it up beyond repair could be something to play with.
User avatar #66 to #65 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
Those are some very interesting questions. However, if there are universes that can't let jumpers out, I don't think they would be able to get back in. Also, how do jumpers know if the universe they're leaving destroys itself once they are gone? They are in an entirely different reality, so they would not be able to know/worry about that. Jump-Hunters could work.

We can make it so that everything in a 5 meter radius around the jumpers gets teleported along with them. The people who know about it somehow are the people who want to travel along with the jumpers, hoping to become jumpers themselves, if they are able to be in that 5 meter radius. So the Jump-Hunters wouldn't actually be so evil, as they are naive and curious to what's beyond the universe.

You can pick out some problems. I like that. If you think we're done, we might be able to get to character development of the protagonist, if you want to.
User avatar #67 to #66 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Well we can already say that most laws of the universe dont apply to jumpers, they can get in to a universe where its impossible but not without cause a breach, to put it better.
Entering the universe would be the punch in the stomach, leaving the universe would be the upper cut that knocks the universe off balance. Just a thought though.

The idea of the jumps taking anything within 5 meters of them is a good idea that can help cause abit of chaos, cross contamination and all that (sorry my spelling is worse then normal today) .

Ok well with that on the back burner we should be ready for the meat of the story, Character, backstory, reason for vibration shift. The main character will have to have knowledge of either arcehology or some sort of robotics seeing that tech and magic will pretty much be this only survival tools, So we need to think that out, are we going for a boring guy turned interesting and awesome or a nerdy kid given the chance of a life time to pursue knowledge, two ideas off the top of my head.
User avatar #68 to #67 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
I like that idea. Seeing as that there is a set amount of energy and matter in a universe, taking some away would be devastating. But we should also need to find out why it wouldn't destroy the new universe.

As for the character, I'd say a normal guy, but that is just so cliche. But it doesn't have to be sci-fi or fantasy, you know? It can also be a 'what if' world. Like the world today had Hitler won, or the world today if there had been a nuclear war between teh U.S. and the U.S.S.R. and that kind of stuff.

Also, archaeology wouldn't help much with a fantasy setting. Completely different cultures and mostly different tools.
Robotics wouldn't help much either, unless he would end up in a slightly less tech-developed universe.

However, I think we should make him at least someone who knows a bit of survival. I can foresee many occasions where he would end up in a forest, or would be forced to flee for something like crime.

Also, I'm going to take a bath. May take an hour before I respond, so take your time.
User avatar #69 to #68 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Well say it doesn't instantly destroy the universe but sets in place a decay that slowly rots it out.

I see where your going with this, sounds good alot people would be interested in reading that sort of thing me included, Normal guy sounds like the best route i would say but we will have to give him some sort of background in education if you get me?

I was wondering as your thinking of exploring what some would consider alternate time-lines would you be interested in playing around with an alternate evolutionary tree? For instance if reptiles or incests had taken our spot for one reason or another?
User avatar #70 to #69 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
I like that idea.

But ofcourse. Any good character has got a backstory. I aim to make it a fully fleshed out person, with a lifestyle, health problems (or perhaps lack there of), interests, loved ones, rivals, family, education, characteristics (obviously) and anythign else that comes into play.

You know, those are some good starters. Because what if that meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs didn't exist? And what if the giant insacts didn't die out (the ones before the dinosaurs)

We will also have to compare humanity to other races/ other kinds. I'd say that one of our perks would be extremely fast technological progress, but one of the bad sides is that we only see the problems at the very last moment, where it is almost unavoidable to have a catastrophe.
User avatar #71 to #70 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
Well it seems we are off to a very good start, i mean the ideas we have thrown out already could be padded out in a book at least and thats not even counting all the back story that has to be added to the main character.

If we went down the evolutionary route we would have to think it would in the way they live. Reptiles could be smart and souless basically and incests dumb but brutal but these things need to be in some form relatable.
User avatar #73 to #71 - hoban (11/11/2013) [-]
The reply button was gone from your last comment.
Yeah that seems logic, have his first jump be somewhere that he would need a translator and if we make it a high tech world he has gone to we can just give him one lets say an object that he can hold up to a creature, it scans the mind and then he puts an earpiece in that translates what the creature is saying, just a thought.

Yup all we have to do is work on his backstory and we are set to start really, I would not be a big fan of the time travel route as that can get messy and with a show like Doctor Who being so popular these days it may make this story seem like a rip off.

I'll have to go for tonight though, Have to be up early for another day of begging for a job, we should have a think tonight about backstory and bash some ideas off each other tomorrow.

Sleep well man.
User avatar #72 to #71 - crazyolitis (11/11/2013) [-]
You know, I think we could soon start on character development. Unless you've got another idea for a story, we could be done before wednesday.

We should also not take the 'time-travel' route where he just encounters creatures from millions of years ago, but the evolved decendants of those creatures. Insects don't really have brains, while dinosaurs did. Quite big ones, actually. We could even come up with the protagonist jumping to a dinosaur sci-fi universe.

But, one thing that would be anoying after a while would be the language barrier. Different worlds mean different languages, and that means learning an entire language or two every new universe. How about a translator-unit form an early sci-fi jump?
User avatar #41 - crazyolitis (11/08/2013) [-]
It's been over a year since anybody commented on this profile. For shame. Anyway, posting here because if you ever want to write together, we can do that whenever you want.
User avatar #42 to #41 - hoban (11/09/2013) [-]
I tend to be more of commenter then the person recieving the comments (the funnyjunk butch if you will) Sure i would love to just let me know your strong points and prefered story if you get me ( like hero stuff, crime stuff, evolution of the insane sorta stuff) i dont normally write down the ideas and stories i have i ust keep them in my head and develop them whenever i have time or a new idea comes to me for the evolution of the story.
User avatar #44 to #42 - crazyolitis (11/09/2013) [-]
Also, if you kno of any story right now, tell me. Heck, even a story for fanfiction of any kind, I'd gladly do it.
User avatar #43 to #42 - crazyolitis (11/09/2013) [-]
Well, I have almost never tried writing any specific stories. Usually just small snippets. But, I would love a challenge, and getting to know my strong and weak points.
User avatar #45 to #43 - hoban (11/09/2013) [-]
Hmm give me afew minutes to figure out how to send mail on here, i prefer to send it in mail incase its considered a very weak idea, I've had a idea for afew days now that might be fun to see how it would evolve for you
User avatar #46 to #45 - crazyolitis (11/09/2013) [-]
Okay then. Anyway, I'm going to sleep now. So I'll be back tomorrow.
User avatar #47 to #46 - hoban (11/09/2013) [-]
Alright mate, its sent now anyway sorry for the time it took it was hard to phrase it. Im still sure it didnt come out right
User avatar #48 to #47 - crazyolitis (11/09/2013) [-]
Go to sleep, get some rest and tomorrow (today?) we'll figure it out.
User avatar #49 to #48 - hoban (11/09/2013) [-]
kk m8 sleep well
User avatar #50 to #49 - crazyolitis (11/09/2013) [-]
Thanks, bro. You too.
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tell me how and u can have them m8, im barely on anymore
#16 - chosenonex (06/19/2012) [-]
Welcome to Bendingtime :)
You should start stocking up on Avatar/Korra related reaction pics.
I can dump some if you want.
Also, What Episode are you on?
User avatar #17 to #16 - hoban (06/19/2012) [-]
Hey man,
Thanks im on "The Library" at the moment not sure what number that is.
Yeah sure Dump away im happy too get all i can ^^ **** i never thought how nice and friendly you guys would be.
#18 to #17 - chosenonex (06/19/2012) [-]
The library was a good episode. I believe thats the one where Sokka gets hyped up on Cactus juice. And Avatards are no different then anyone else. Lol. We just enjoy Avatar.
The library was a good episode. I believe thats the one where Sokka gets hyped up on Cactus juice. And Avatards are no different then anyone else. Lol. We just enjoy Avatar.
User avatar #33 to #18 - hoban (06/19/2012) [-]
Aye i just thought you guys where more like bronies where ye get anger over the smallest thing. Nah it wasnt in that episode mabye the next 1 :P thanks for the dump man ^^
#38 to #33 - chosenonex (06/19/2012) [-]
No problem. Lol. I dumped a lot. So much it wont let me reply any more. if you want more i can reply to one of the earlier comments. (btw a lot of these will be so much more entertaining when you actually get to the episode they are from.)
#19 to #18 - chosenonex (06/19/2012) [-]
dumping btw
dumping btw
#36 to #35 - chosenonex (06/19/2012) [-]
**chosenonex rolls 41**
#11 - drainbramage (04/24/2012) [-]
I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but notice your avatar.
#12 to #11 - hoban (05/18/2012) [-]
Death Note ftw!
#13 to #12 - drainbramage (05/19/2012) [-]
indeed
indeed
User avatar #3 - MudkipTomislav (04/17/2012) [-]
Mađer
User avatar #4 to #3 - hoban (04/20/2012) [-]
What? o.0
User avatar #1 - buttaxl (03/04/2012) [-]
Ok ill be in contact with you when i release another death note gif :)
User avatar #2 to #1 - hoban (03/04/2012) [-]
<3 ty
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