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Musk's efforts haven't done anything to make production of batteries or solar any cleaner or significantly more efficient, so there is no longer term green effect coming. He's just taking advantage of handouts that other energy and auto companies aren't getting because people incorrectly think solar = automatic positive for the planet.
''Musk's efforts haven't done anything to make production of batteries or solar any cleaner or significantly more efficient''
Solar yeah you're right, not significantly, just slowly grinding it's way up to the tipping point where the masses will realize it's cheaper to own solar + battery and thus will ignite a change in the way most people use energy into a more sustainable way using less oil for energy so we can use it for all the other very important things oil is used for and save the rest of our one off energy sources for whenever we need it.
Batteries, one, aren't really dirty unless you're talking about the raw power it takes to make gigafactory and the solar panels that power the gigafactory that probably came from natural gas or oil or coal, and two, have been changed by a significant amount, not in terms of battery density, but in terms of how efficiently its mass produced. The first gigafactory will roughly double the worlds lithium supply and reduce costs of current lithium batteries used for Teslas by more than 30%, which is all that is really needed for the first step of mass market electric vehicles before it grows 100x that for the rest of all who want to buy cheapish electric cars. Know that not every Musk product need be 10x better than the failing (by failing I strictly mean not doing enough to change the world long term) competition in order to make a difference, it just needs to be good enough for the masses to be able to get a hold of it which is what the important bit is, im not saying everyone driving a super crazy 10,000 mile range EV made by ''the real life iron man'', but just enough to be more compelling than the option that isn't sustainable long term. Giga factory = hundreds of thousands of decent EVs a year times ~100 giga factories roughly equals enough batteries made CHEAP ENOUGH for sustainable transport and sustainable energy.
''so there is no longer term green effect coming''
It will if, IF this seed grows enough (more highly efficient giga factories making slightly better, much cheaper batteries) in order to offer enough, not infinitely better, but enough, slightly better options that also happen to be sustainable for the far future. Also, I'll drop the ''green'' thing, although I could argue that it would, in the end, be more green and at the least reduce smog, I'll just give you it for the sake of making my other main argument stand out more.
A world running on Solar (produced by solar energy in the future when it's cheaper then gas) (and obviously nuclear which I also love [until it runs out] , hydro, a tiny amount of wind and geothermal) and batteries powering homes at night and powering electric transport would be sustainable.
''He's just taking advantage of handouts''
Yes, he takes advantage of handouts, congratulations, this is not a bad thing on his part because one, he's taking the money that was already taken from you from the government, get mad at the government, not Elon, two, his companies have the real potential to improve humanity in terms of advancing the adoption of sustainable transport and sustainable energy, even if its not ''green'', and out of all the dumb, stupid fucking bullshit your tax dollars get wasted on, having a tiny amount of it getting put to use by Elon's companies (which is pretty much gonna be over with soon anyways) should not be as high on the libertarian shit list as it is. On principle, don't get me wrong, I agree, the government should get out of giving subsidies at all, but in this case, it is nowhere close to being a big deal.
''other energy and auto companies aren't getting because people incorrectly think solar = automatic positive for the planet.''
Yeah I agree, it's not really fair on principle, blame the government.
Tl;dr:The improvements are actually there and its more than just the bare minimum of not actually doing anything while taking in free money, just for free money. No big deal, Elon did nothing wrong.
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