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#19 - I suppose in that wider context yeah, viewers and people in ge…  [+] (2 replies) 10/28/2015 on Fallout 4 in a fews days +1
#20 - comradewinter (10/28/2015) [-]
Maybe, but who's to blame for it, exactly? When I saw the Skyrim vids, I assumed he meant scaling instead of climbing. Some believed you could vertical climb it, others supplied that you could climb all the mountains. Leaving something open is an invitation to interpret it differently, but people went way overboard. The theories eventually became so abstract they ultimately even moved away from the original statement. Such as saying that all mountains could be climbed. He never said that, he looked at a mountain and said you could climb THAT. The gamers who then spread a lie made by another gamer then had the guts to call Howard out as a liar when they were at fault for it in the first place.

Fallout has a big problem, and that is how good the series is and its cult following. The people themselves hype it up, making them unofficial spokespeople for the game. You see tons of forum posts about one feature after another which may or may not exist, and then people complain about how the features aren't even in the game. It quickly becomes ridiculous.
#26 - hellfiazz (10/28/2015) [-]
I agree with you wholeheartedly. To answer your first question, I'd say both are to blame: Howard and game presenters in general, and the viewers who wildly misinterpret things. Both aren't really bad guys for doing what they do, but they're both causing some disappointment to the actual players upon release.
#17 - I don't disagree with you, but when you purposefully state som…  [+] (4 replies) 10/28/2015 on Fallout 4 in a fews days +1
#18 - comradewinter (10/28/2015) [-]
Rule of the thumb: If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

Politicians do this, pop culture industry does this, manufacturers do this, your friends do this, basically everyone will present themselves, their product, or their ideas in a better fashion than it truly is. If people just take things for granted and assume people actually speak the full truth, they themselves are to blame. Which is why it's an important distinction between lying and exaggerating. People exaggerate all the time, but they try to avoid lying. At some point, people will just have to be skeptical. At least then, they won't be as disappointed about everything.

Is a shady business? Yes. But it's so prevalent in history and recent times that it should almost be embedded into instinct.
#19 - hellfiazz (10/28/2015) [-]
I suppose in that wider context yeah, viewers and people in general should have a little bit more sense about then. But your original point about hype beyond the intended message is what I would disagree with, because all the folks you just said intend for you and other viewers to over-hype it.
#20 - comradewinter (10/28/2015) [-]
Maybe, but who's to blame for it, exactly? When I saw the Skyrim vids, I assumed he meant scaling instead of climbing. Some believed you could vertical climb it, others supplied that you could climb all the mountains. Leaving something open is an invitation to interpret it differently, but people went way overboard. The theories eventually became so abstract they ultimately even moved away from the original statement. Such as saying that all mountains could be climbed. He never said that, he looked at a mountain and said you could climb THAT. The gamers who then spread a lie made by another gamer then had the guts to call Howard out as a liar when they were at fault for it in the first place.

Fallout has a big problem, and that is how good the series is and its cult following. The people themselves hype it up, making them unofficial spokespeople for the game. You see tons of forum posts about one feature after another which may or may not exist, and then people complain about how the features aren't even in the game. It quickly becomes ridiculous.
#26 - hellfiazz (10/28/2015) [-]
I agree with you wholeheartedly. To answer your first question, I'd say both are to blame: Howard and game presenters in general, and the viewers who wildly misinterpret things. Both aren't really bad guys for doing what they do, but they're both causing some disappointment to the actual players upon release.
#15 - He didn't lie about game features for the most part, yeah, but…  [+] (6 replies) 10/28/2015 on Fallout 4 in a fews days 0
#16 - comradewinter (10/28/2015) [-]
And who doesn't do this, exactly? When you sell an idea, you do so by hyping things up. There's a distinction between lying and doing the exact same thing everybody else in the business is doing. Is the parkour in AC-games seamless? No. Is the atmosphere realistic in FIFA? No. Is the Witcher 3's storyline epic? No. Are they good in their respective fields? Yes. Exaggeration is just part of the pop culture industries.
#17 - hellfiazz (10/28/2015) [-]
I don't disagree with you, but when you purposefully state something in a way that makes it very easy to generate hype about a game feature that is in reality not-so-great, it's not really fair to blame the viewers.
#18 - comradewinter (10/28/2015) [-]
Rule of the thumb: If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

Politicians do this, pop culture industry does this, manufacturers do this, your friends do this, basically everyone will present themselves, their product, or their ideas in a better fashion than it truly is. If people just take things for granted and assume people actually speak the full truth, they themselves are to blame. Which is why it's an important distinction between lying and exaggerating. People exaggerate all the time, but they try to avoid lying. At some point, people will just have to be skeptical. At least then, they won't be as disappointed about everything.

Is a shady business? Yes. But it's so prevalent in history and recent times that it should almost be embedded into instinct.
#19 - hellfiazz (10/28/2015) [-]
I suppose in that wider context yeah, viewers and people in general should have a little bit more sense about then. But your original point about hype beyond the intended message is what I would disagree with, because all the folks you just said intend for you and other viewers to over-hype it.
#20 - comradewinter (10/28/2015) [-]
Maybe, but who's to blame for it, exactly? When I saw the Skyrim vids, I assumed he meant scaling instead of climbing. Some believed you could vertical climb it, others supplied that you could climb all the mountains. Leaving something open is an invitation to interpret it differently, but people went way overboard. The theories eventually became so abstract they ultimately even moved away from the original statement. Such as saying that all mountains could be climbed. He never said that, he looked at a mountain and said you could climb THAT. The gamers who then spread a lie made by another gamer then had the guts to call Howard out as a liar when they were at fault for it in the first place.

Fallout has a big problem, and that is how good the series is and its cult following. The people themselves hype it up, making them unofficial spokespeople for the game. You see tons of forum posts about one feature after another which may or may not exist, and then people complain about how the features aren't even in the game. It quickly becomes ridiculous.
#26 - hellfiazz (10/28/2015) [-]
I agree with you wholeheartedly. To answer your first question, I'd say both are to blame: Howard and game presenters in general, and the viewers who wildly misinterpret things. Both aren't really bad guys for doing what they do, but they're both causing some disappointment to the actual players upon release.
#41 - Before it was Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Now it's Islami…  [+] (1 reply) 08/25/2015 on ISIS VS BestKorea +1
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#103 - rapterjesus (08/26/2015) [-]
It has always been ISIL, the west just replaced Levant with Syria.