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#141 - Yes, I get that, but this isn't them taking a cut on skyrim's …  [+] (2 replies) 04/25/2015 on Paying for mods 0
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#145 - lollar (04/25/2015) [-]
No matter how many reasonable voices are against buisness tactics like paid dlc , people still buy them and give big profits.Valve sees it and wants to get a share of it.Respect to it's buyer's means nothing compared to big money by rich idiots.
#148 - haziri (04/25/2015) [-]
Which doesn't make it reasonable. People can bitch about dlc for a thousand years, it will always exist, but this is not that. This is modders, who use to work for nothing more than praise, getting the chance to be paid. The entire argument here is whether or not it's reasonable. The fact is, valve taking 75% isn't going to last, because either the modders and/or the players are going to say screw it to their proposal.
#134 - So the fact that it's unreasonable is okay because? This is a …  [+] (4 replies) 04/25/2015 on Paying for mods 0
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#138 - lollar (04/25/2015) [-]
No,I don't support Valve.What I am trying to say is that valve has become stronger over the years and holds a big share of the market(pc games).Not only stronger but it has developed a cut status among it's fans.Valve like a true coorporation does what every industry does.Exploit.Valve makes a deal with companies(like bethesda) saying that if they want to promote their game through their platform they will have to agree to their terms and conditions.
#141 - haziri (04/25/2015) [-]
Yes, I get that, but this isn't them taking a cut on skyrim's sales, but the modding communities. When they say they want X% from the publishers, the publishers agree because they have the money for it. If a modder wants to make a mod and get paid for it, and they see they're going to be getting very little for it, chances are they might just say "fuck it."

Nobody wants to see Valve go the way of EA, and this is a worrisome step in that direction for them. On top of everything, the cut that valve is taking makes the idea of the modders getting paid appear in the background, which is absolutely not where it should be.
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#145 - lollar (04/25/2015) [-]
No matter how many reasonable voices are against buisness tactics like paid dlc , people still buy them and give big profits.Valve sees it and wants to get a share of it.Respect to it's buyer's means nothing compared to big money by rich idiots.
#148 - haziri (04/25/2015) [-]
Which doesn't make it reasonable. People can bitch about dlc for a thousand years, it will always exist, but this is not that. This is modders, who use to work for nothing more than praise, getting the chance to be paid. The entire argument here is whether or not it's reasonable. The fact is, valve taking 75% isn't going to last, because either the modders and/or the players are going to say screw it to their proposal.
#125 - They don't own skyrim though. The only thing Valve is doing in…  [+] (6 replies) 04/25/2015 on Paying for mods 0
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#132 - lollar (04/25/2015) [-]
Valve works like a supermarket,mall.I will store your items here,promote you but you have to agree to my terms.Take a share tec.
#134 - haziri (04/25/2015) [-]
So the fact that it's unreasonable is okay because? This is a digital service. To store something in a supermarket or mall requires space. Hosting a game on valve's servers is nowhere near the same cost as storing items in a mall or supermarket. The analogy doesn't work here, and even if it did it would still be unreasonable.
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#138 - lollar (04/25/2015) [-]
No,I don't support Valve.What I am trying to say is that valve has become stronger over the years and holds a big share of the market(pc games).Not only stronger but it has developed a cut status among it's fans.Valve like a true coorporation does what every industry does.Exploit.Valve makes a deal with companies(like bethesda) saying that if they want to promote their game through their platform they will have to agree to their terms and conditions.
#141 - haziri (04/25/2015) [-]
Yes, I get that, but this isn't them taking a cut on skyrim's sales, but the modding communities. When they say they want X% from the publishers, the publishers agree because they have the money for it. If a modder wants to make a mod and get paid for it, and they see they're going to be getting very little for it, chances are they might just say "fuck it."

Nobody wants to see Valve go the way of EA, and this is a worrisome step in that direction for them. On top of everything, the cut that valve is taking makes the idea of the modders getting paid appear in the background, which is absolutely not where it should be.
User avatar
#145 - lollar (04/25/2015) [-]
No matter how many reasonable voices are against buisness tactics like paid dlc , people still buy them and give big profits.Valve sees it and wants to get a share of it.Respect to it's buyer's means nothing compared to big money by rich idiots.
#148 - haziri (04/25/2015) [-]
Which doesn't make it reasonable. People can bitch about dlc for a thousand years, it will always exist, but this is not that. This is modders, who use to work for nothing more than praise, getting the chance to be paid. The entire argument here is whether or not it's reasonable. The fact is, valve taking 75% isn't going to last, because either the modders and/or the players are going to say screw it to their proposal.