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#31 - This stems from the pig being an unclean animal. You're not su…  [+] (2 new replies) 10/22/2014 on Food Stamps +2
User avatar #46 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
Of what I read multiple times, pigs being unclean is actually a myth. They are associated with mud and considered to be lesser creatures throughout the history - middle ages were all about pigs symbolising the worst of the worst, there were even pig masks to be worn as a punishment back then.

But it's been proven again and again that pigs are not filthy and, if kept in good conditions, are no worse than cows or chickens. All of the humanity moved on an accepted this knowledge. And it seems that only the religion is still suck in middle ages.
User avatar #50 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
Pigs are considered dirty mainly due to the fact that they can carry Taenia solium, AKA the pork tapeworm. If a person ingests pig meat containing these tapeworms, they'll become infected. The worms that mature inside the person will produce eggs, which the person then excretes. Back before modern plumbing, people would just defecate outside, and their pigs could then become infected again by ingesting the egg-filled human poop. Thus, the cycle starts over.

TL;DR, pigs can give people tapeworms. Thus, they are considered dirty.
#28 - That's why I'm saying these days it's not relevant =) At t…  [+] (6 new replies) 10/22/2014 on Food Stamps +1
User avatar #29 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
Well that explains the blood. But why hare bacon?

Seriously though, I am happy I live in these current times. Could've been a lot worse.
#41 - beerbeerbeer (10/22/2014) [-]
#31 is only half right. It stems back to the time of the Egyptian pharaos, where priests weren't supposed to eat pig (at least not when purifying themselves for holy days) because the pig was associated with the evil god Set. Has nothing to do with pigs being "filthy animals". Besides, they aren't. Pigs need to wallow, but they would never wallow in shit if they have nice cool mud. Wild boars won't eat other animals shit either if they have grubs, beetles, grass, herbs, roots and the like to eat.
User avatar #89 - worldbestbaka (10/22/2014) [-]
Their meat, at least before we had a certain level of control of the livestock, the pork was really a filthy animal along with his meat since when they ate everything they had in front of them. This made them be the main cause of trichinosis and a dangerous meat if not cooked properly (which wasn't totally used to hapen) since they could host many kinds of parastes and//or diseases. That's why some religions pair porks with evil and Islam forbid the pork's meat.
#31 - hazelnutqt (10/22/2014) [-]
This stems from the pig being an unclean animal. You're not supposed to eat any part of the swine unless your life depends on it.
User avatar #46 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
Of what I read multiple times, pigs being unclean is actually a myth. They are associated with mud and considered to be lesser creatures throughout the history - middle ages were all about pigs symbolising the worst of the worst, there were even pig masks to be worn as a punishment back then.

But it's been proven again and again that pigs are not filthy and, if kept in good conditions, are no worse than cows or chickens. All of the humanity moved on an accepted this knowledge. And it seems that only the religion is still suck in middle ages.
User avatar #50 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
Pigs are considered dirty mainly due to the fact that they can carry Taenia solium, AKA the pork tapeworm. If a person ingests pig meat containing these tapeworms, they'll become infected. The worms that mature inside the person will produce eggs, which the person then excretes. Back before modern plumbing, people would just defecate outside, and their pigs could then become infected again by ingesting the egg-filled human poop. Thus, the cycle starts over.

TL;DR, pigs can give people tapeworms. Thus, they are considered dirty.
#24 - Fun fact - The draining of blood from meat goes back to the be…  [+] (23 new replies) 10/22/2014 on Food Stamps +7
User avatar #35 - kombee (10/22/2014) [-]
But, isn't it the same meat and blood? Animal blood in general is very disease-inviting, and parasite-infested. Your immune system needs to be really good to be able to handle that. Although it's more advanced than anticipated, I still very much see reason to bleed the animal out.
User avatar #54 - lean (10/22/2014) [-]
Idk about you, but I cook my meat. Blood and meat have the same toxins and bacterias. Cooking removes them.
User avatar #27 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
Was it really so easy to transfer such diseases, though? Animals don't catch human diseases and likewise. On a regular farm people can drink blood straight from the animal - because it's fresh and has no bacteria that could harm them. It was all a matter of believing that this blood is bad, rather than medical knowledge. It's just as reasonable as heir assumption that pigs are more filthy than other animals.
User avatar #53 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
Diseases certainly can jump between species, it happens fairly frequently. We got HIV from primates. Most types of the flu jump between different species. Why do you think we can get swine flu? It was once a flu that just infected pigs, but at some point it jumped to humans. In fact, that swine flu may have come from another type of animal before it infected pigs. I'm also sure we can make animals sick, although I can't think of any examples off the top of my head...

Also, people don't normally drink blood straight from an animal. That's asking to get sick. I have a feeling it's probably practiced, but it's not a common practice.
User avatar #58 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
But they don't just "jump". You'd have to fuck a pig and then lick off your shit-covered cock. Same with bird flu. Unless your hygiene is disastrous, it's actually very hard to catch it. Pretty much every single damn animal can give you a parasite that will live in your body. Pigs are ones of them, but not the only ones. And that thing about ingesting feces - I'm sure they have far better things to eat. Again - if held in good condtitions, such situations can never occur and pigs are as clean as any other household animal.

Besides... these supposedly deadly and widespread diseases don't hit that hard, but each and every case is colored up by media to cause anxiety among society. Bird flu, swine flu, mad cows. And now ebola. They all have poor health care and pathetic sanitary standards in common. And occur the most in places where such conditions are an every day basis.

Not saying ebola is not a problem - it's a real and very shitty disease - but the news are overexaggarating it. In a year or so you won't even remember it had place, because the media will find another "deadly mass infection" to spread panic about. Even in my country we had like 5 cases of ebola so far - all of them fake. But people got scared nonetheless and the media had a LOT to say regarding it before revealing it's all lies.

It puts such news in a bad light, don't you think?
User avatar #63 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
I agree with your views on media sensationalism though. Nobody is worried about SARS anymore, or the swine flu from 2009. And yes, the ebola outbreak will (hopefully) fade away. These things are definitely blown out of proportion.
User avatar #62 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
Yes, they can just "jump." It doesn't happen frequently, because people practice good hygiene nowadays (at least in developed countries), but it still can happen. You can get the flu from a pig the same way you can get the flu from another person. Read this:

www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/00021592.htm

And plus, don't forget that some people literally have sex with animals. Do you think those people practice good hygiene?


As far as the feces goes, I said this was happening before modern plumbing was available. Sometimes people would throw their excrement into the pig pen, it seemed like the logical thing to do at the time. Pigs would roll around in that shit. They would also use their own feces to fertilize plants, which were then fed to the pigs. It's called 'nightsoiling,' and it has died out in developed nations because of the potential to make people/animals sick. But because it used to happen so much, and many people raised pigs, it wasn't unusual for people to get sick after consuming pork products. Thus, the pig became a 'dirty' animal.
User avatar #64 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
All this article says that people who got sick were in contact with pigs. They didn't even said HOW it happend. Just that pigs were involved. Well, no shit Sherlock, what do you fucking expect from a swine flu? You won't catch it from a cow now, will you? It does not prove, in any way, that this disease just randomly flies from one species to another.

"Sometimes people would throw their excrement into the pig pen, it seemed like the logical thing to do at the time"

>throwing shit at the pigs
>blaming pigs for being filthy

Do I even have to comment on that?
It's not pigs' fault that people literally shit in their own food.
It's not pig's fault that people literally fuck animals. They fuck other animals too, don't forget.

All I'm saying is that pigs are not even a little bit more dirty than any other animals. People might've as well thrown their shit at cows. The only reason pigs are considered filthy is because people made them up to be filthy.
User avatar #74 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
And I agree, it's not the pigs' fault that our shit ended up in their food. We don't practice it anymore. However, you may also forget that pigs love to cover themselves in mud when they're stuck out in their pens. Mud is filthy, thus making the pig seem like a filthy animal.

I agree that pigs get it worse than other animals, but that's just the way it is. Good luck changing mankind's outlook on pigs.
User avatar #73 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
In response to your first paragraph:

www.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/influenza/swineflu.html

"Classical swine influenza viruses can also be directly transmitted to humans as zoonotic infections"

"Older strains of human influenza virus can be maintained among pigs, thereby allowing for re-introduction of antigenic variants back into the human population."

Yes, it can just randomly fly from one species to another.

Also,

"Zoonosis: the process whereby an infectious disease is transmitted between species. It usually refers specifically to diseases that can travel from non-human animals to humans. They include all diseases that people can contract from animals such as wildlife, domestic animals, insects, primates, and birds."
User avatar #86 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
I am sorry, but you are still only repeating your one and only argument that this happens. I know it does. I really do. But, yet again, there's no specification on HOW can it happen. These articles all mention that it's possible. And, again, I am still absolutely positive that it takes severe case of carelessnes, lack of hygiene and any caution whatsoever.

My exact poin is that swine flu is not an easily transmitted disease. I know it is transmittable. But it's not that simple.
User avatar #95 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
"This is thought to happen mainly when an infected pig coughs or sneezes and droplets with influenza virus in them spread through the air. If these droplets land in your nose or mouth, or are inhaled, you can be infected. There also is some evidence that you might get infected by touching something that has virus on it and then touching your own mouth or nose. A third way to possibly get infected is to inhale dust containing influenza virus. Scientists aren’t really sure which of these ways of spread is the most common."

Source: www.cdc.gov/flu/swineflu/keyfacts-variant.htm

Simple as that.

It becomes complex when you investigate the specific strain of virus that the pig gave to a person, and that person's immune system.

In other words, will this virus be able to survive and reproduce inside the person's body? Also, if it can do those things unhindered, will it be able to spread to other people?

Also, will the infected person's immune system be able to recognize this flu as a threat and produce antibodies to attack it? If not, will other peoples' immune systems be able to suppress this particular virus?

If it's a strain that can reproduce within humans, and evade their immune responses, then you're looking at a potential epidemic/pandemic.
User avatar #94 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
Ah, I thought you were saying that it doesn't happen. I assume it's similar to how you would get the flu from another person, i.e. you get the pig's saliva on you, then rub your face, or eat something without washing your hands. Let me look it up.
#30 - digitalmasterx (10/22/2014) [-]
but they are, a pigs digestion system is terrible compared to an animal like the cow.
they eat anything and everything, including filth. a cow eats grass.
#28 - hazelnutqt (10/22/2014) [-]
That's why I'm saying these days it's not relevant =)
At the time, blood was the be-all-end-all of diseases, frequently, a visit to a doctor resultetd in a so-called blood-letting, I.E. tapping of your blood to bleed out the disease.. Same went for animals, you had to get rid of the blood to not get sick.
User avatar #29 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
Well that explains the blood. But why hare bacon?

Seriously though, I am happy I live in these current times. Could've been a lot worse.
#41 - beerbeerbeer (10/22/2014) [-]
#31 is only half right. It stems back to the time of the Egyptian pharaos, where priests weren't supposed to eat pig (at least not when purifying themselves for holy days) because the pig was associated with the evil god Set. Has nothing to do with pigs being "filthy animals". Besides, they aren't. Pigs need to wallow, but they would never wallow in shit if they have nice cool mud. Wild boars won't eat other animals shit either if they have grubs, beetles, grass, herbs, roots and the like to eat.
User avatar #89 - worldbestbaka (10/22/2014) [-]
Their meat, at least before we had a certain level of control of the livestock, the pork was really a filthy animal along with his meat since when they ate everything they had in front of them. This made them be the main cause of trichinosis and a dangerous meat if not cooked properly (which wasn't totally used to hapen) since they could host many kinds of parastes and//or diseases. That's why some religions pair porks with evil and Islam forbid the pork's meat.
#31 - hazelnutqt (10/22/2014) [-]
This stems from the pig being an unclean animal. You're not supposed to eat any part of the swine unless your life depends on it.
User avatar #46 - ciacheczko (10/22/2014) [-]
Of what I read multiple times, pigs being unclean is actually a myth. They are associated with mud and considered to be lesser creatures throughout the history - middle ages were all about pigs symbolising the worst of the worst, there were even pig masks to be worn as a punishment back then.

But it's been proven again and again that pigs are not filthy and, if kept in good conditions, are no worse than cows or chickens. All of the humanity moved on an accepted this knowledge. And it seems that only the religion is still suck in middle ages.
User avatar #50 - juanlove (10/22/2014) [-]
Pigs are considered dirty mainly due to the fact that they can carry Taenia solium, AKA the pork tapeworm. If a person ingests pig meat containing these tapeworms, they'll become infected. The worms that mature inside the person will produce eggs, which the person then excretes. Back before modern plumbing, people would just defecate outside, and their pigs could then become infected again by ingesting the egg-filled human poop. Thus, the cycle starts over.

TL;DR, pigs can give people tapeworms. Thus, they are considered dirty.
User avatar #25 - MuahahaOfLore (10/22/2014) [-]
If you leave in the blood it spoils faster.
User avatar #51 - lean (10/22/2014) [-]
Yeah, no it doesn't. Internal organs left intact such as liver, stomach and intestines, trachea, and bladder can cause meat to spoil and infection to spread. What do you think au jus is with a good prime rib?
Hint: blood and fat from the meat, seasoned and kept warm for dipping

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