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- I work at IHOP and I've never seen a post so relevant... I rea…
A waitress story
Quit saying you get paid less than minimum wage unless you get tips then. You bitches keep saying that like we don't know that your employer is required to pay the difference if you don't make at least minimum wage.
shouldn't be giving away free apple juice
"People get so stingy" TELL THAT TO YOUR FUCKING EMPLOYER!
Restaurant manager here
the owners don't raise our pay. Therefore we aren't going to raise yours.
My old boss told me "Everyone is replaceable. Even myself. If you don't want to work 100% under the circumstance, I'll find someone who will"
This means, if you keep demanding raises just for the sake of making more money instead of excelling at your job, then you will be replaced by someone who does wan to put forth the effort. If you bitch about not getting tips, then be more proactive.
Understand that there are customers that simply won't tip well, or at all for that matter. take it with a grain of salt. If you wait 6 tables an hour (easy), and they all average a $3 tip, then you're making $18 an hour. THAT'S MORE THAN I MAKE, AND I'M SALARY.
This has to be most rudest thing I could say to you, but if your job depends on the willingness of others to give you money like a charity then you should probably get a better job cause you are only one step up from being a bum. Waiters are Glorified Hobos. Get a better job, I know its hard in this economy but their are better choices than this.
IHOP was the first and only place to respond to my job application after I was searching for months on end, (2 months, my search was 2 months long) I thank God they gave it to me. I was eating away at my savings... Also I know we're just glorified beggars but someone has to deliver peoples food and baby them throughout their restaurant experience. if their weren't waiters around than it would just be a cafeteria and no one actually wants to go up and get their food, do they?
MFW trying to get a job and no one was answering
They say you're something like 70% more likely to find someone willing to hire you while you already have a job, so staying where you are because they were the only ones to answer your calls isn't always the best idea.
use IHOP to get some cash to live on, and keep sending out CV's. Something better will come along eveutally, and in the meantime, you won't be eating away at your savings like you were when you were unemployed.
As for "service" what exactly is it? Is it diffrent in america?
In england, a waiter asks for your order, writes it down, tells it to the kitchen staff, then eventually picks up your food and puts it on your table.
Fetch and carry, pretty much. Service isn't really a part of it.
If anyone deserves a tip at the end of a nice meal, it should be the chef, shouldn't it?
It's not really a scale of great/good/ok/bad/terrible service.
It's pretty much a switch. "Did the waiter ask for your order, then bring you your food Y/N?"
If the answer is Yes, then you did your job and you are a waiter. If the answer is no then you didn't do your job, and soon enough won't be a waiter any more, just like any other job where you are expected to do a thing in exchange for a paycheque.
I buy things from the company you work for, your company uses you to make sure i get the things i want, i pay your company, then they pay you a monthly wage.
If i don't pay, i don't get my stuff.
If I don't get my stuff (or it's broken, or the wrong stuff) then your company doesn't get my money.
If your boss doesn't pay your wage, then you don't work
If you don't work, then you get fired and thus don't get your wage.
A leads to B leads to C.
I understand man I'm on the same boat. I'm ignoring waiter jobs though, because of how I truly feel about them. Now that you have that job I suggest you keep looking for better and better my friend. You shouldn't have to be someones bitch in a restaurant just to earn their tip. Get out there and find something better for yourself. You'l be happier with a more stable job.
part of why I never eat out unless someone else is covering it
I used to be the same way, or this is why I only ate fast food or pick up. Paying gratuity is a bitch and I get that. Not all of us are in good financial standing.
Man, IHOP is fucking awesome. Just went there last weekend with my tennis team, food was just absolutely fantastic, and the coffee was surprisingly good.
I wasn't in charge of buying, but if I was I would've tipped a good 30% for that.
My ex girlfriend was like that. I always tip 15%-25%, sometimes more if it's below 15 bucks, and she would always try and stop me saying that was way too much.
That's a good reason she's an ex now.
I don't get why people are offended by customers not tipping well.
Surely your rage should be saved for your boss who pays you less than the guy who cooks the food in the back room, or the guy who sweeps the floor?
(pretty sure (in some states) the employer is legally obliged to make sure you make minimum wage, including tips, so if you don't he has to make up the difference)
Maybe it should be saved for the whatever fucktard came up with the idea that your tips should be a part of your wage, instead of a bonus. He who thought that, because some generous patrons might give you free money, that your base wage should be lower?
Why, instead, are you mad at the people who decided to pay you
They give you money, in edition to paying for the actual product itself (which is something that doesn't happen in any other industry) because they liked your service.
Where the fuck do you get off saying "that's not enough, i'm worth more than this
It's not their jobs to pay your wage, that's your employer's job. If your employer decides that he's going to pay you 1/4 what he pays other non-wait staff members, just because the law says he's allowed to, then that's between you and him,
A tip is a tip, a bonus,
. Free cash given because they liked your service. It shouldn't be expected or demanded, and it certainly shouldn't be
If you don't have enough money to live on, then don't complain to the customers for not paying half again what their actual bill costs, complain to your boss because he's paying you a third of what the frycook in the back room gets, because he expects you to
beg the customers for spare change
it's fucking inhumane.
I work at an airport pushing people in wheelchairs to pretty much anywhere they need to go. Part of my paycheck is supposed to be made up in tips, and like you said, my employers are required to make up the difference if I didn't make all of it. However if that happens often enough, they fire you. It's not easy man, you really gotta hope for those tips. Of course I don't get offended if/when I don't get tipped, you know never know the situation that kind of person is in, but still it's rough sometimes.
If your boss would rather fire you then ensure that you make minimum wage, (as you are entitled to) then that's his fault.
Bad bosses will be bad bosses. There isn't a lot you can do, and yes, you might need charity money from your customers to get by.
I never said you didn't need more money, or that getting more money from your boss would be easy. I
say it's inhumane.
My main point was pointing out that it's not the customers who are at fault here.
They aren't obliged to pay your wage, you're boss is, and if he chooses to pay you peanuts and fire you if you ask for the rest of it, then that's between you and him.
It's not on the customers, who are already paying the business itself for goods or services (and frankly, I had no idea you tipped at an airport, I thought it was waiters only) It's on your boss, who choses to pay you a tipped wage, with the guarantee that if you don't get tips, he'll make up the difference.
If he says that he'll fire you if you actually ask him follow through on that guarantee, that just makes it even clearer who the villain of this story is.
im a pizza delivery driver myself, and while a small tip is awesome cause its free money, not tipping at all is more than enough reason to be upset.
its the same price for the food whether u pick it up or its delivered,
and that shit costs GAS MONEY to get to your shitty house.
So unless youre broke (in which case you shouldnt order food, make your own)
then either tip the delivery guy at least 10% for gas, or get your fat piece-of-shit ass off the couch and go get the fucking food yourself instead of bitching about the thought of tipping someone who actually needs the money for what they do.
or just kill yourself you cheap, stingy bastards
Or maybe your boss should cover the gas money as a business expense?
As for where the business should get the money to pay for petrol, most places where I live just add a small delivery charge to the actual bill.
It has the same effect as them tipping you, except instead of the money going into your pocket for gas, it goes to your boss, who pays for your gas anyway.
but we're just retreading the same ground now, you call customers lazy for using your service (never a bright idea) and cheap for "only" paying their actual bill with no extra, and don't think to blame your boss that your pay is shit or that you need to spend your own money on business expenses.
Other countries manage this just fine, the only people who can LOSE money on a delivery is americans, because they allow their bosses to shift the responsibility of paying them to the customers. Customers who might not actually do it, because tipping is, and always has been, optional.
Except that complaining to your boss about how you wish to made more and demanding a higher pay is how you get fired. Believe it or not, organized labor is pretty fucking disorganized and the unions don't have nearly as much power as you'd think. Tipping is a way of ensuring that workers get a decent wage without necessarily endangering their positions. Plus, it takes the burden of ensuring that workers are paid the minimum wage from the employer (which at small scale restaurants, as is often the case, are often teetering on the edge of bankruptcy for a few years until things get running) to the customer, allowing for it to foster the growth of some small businesses into larger more successful entities.
"shifting the burdern of paying your workers onto the customer" isn't a good thing. Especially when the customer can just decide not to.
If your choice is "Pay half my workers less than minimum wage or go bankrupt" then you should probably go bankrupt.
Most of the world doesn't have a Tipped Wage (less than half wage for people who can make tips) and they manage just fine. If you
literally can't afford to pay your workers
then you aren't in any position to be starting up a business.
Businesses work by charging the customers money, then using that money to pay for utilities, wages and stock, then keeping a part of it as profit.
When you start up, your profits might be low, but if you can't even cover the costs of running (of which, wages is a large part) then your business if failing and you need to change something before you go under. Just
not paying your workers
and expecting the customers to pick up the slack shouldn't be an option.
That story is rage worthy
But im curious if you know that reaction pic is from a lesbian furry porn comic
I know it is...
And shit is hot yo, that damn pillow with a strap on gets more than i ever will.
To be fair, most people don't go to ihop for gourmet. Places like perkins, IHOP, Denny's etc people view like fast food, and tip shitty in general. I would use your experience at the IHOP to try and move up to a bar/ restaurant or just bartending. A really upscale restaurant is good too, if you can make the cut (super competitive). In general, look at the ambiance of where you are working and caliber of:
A. your fellow workers
B. the patrons.
If you don't think they are up to snuff, then you should try to relocate to a place where people are in general not scrubs. I'm not saying it is easy, I am saying you should try.
I always tip well, a virtue instilled in me by both my parents. My dad was an absolute fucking prick about it though. He would pull out his phone and calculate exactly 15% of the bill and tip that. No more; no less. And every single time he made sure to loudly explain to my brothers and me that that was the proper way to tip. My mom on the other hand basically said, use common sense, you can estimate 15% in your head and tip roughly that. She also only explained this a couple times, usually after my brother or I brought up the subject.
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