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#75 - admiralshepard (11/30/2013) [-]
It's just such a shame that French air power was so outdated compared to the Luftwaffe. I mean come on, the Dewoitine D520? the Morane Saulnier MS 406? They were terrible fighter aircraft compared to the BF 109. Unarmored, outgunned, and under powered. The American export P-36 Hawk was arguably the most competent fighter in your arsenal.
#66 - pseudobob (11/30/2013) [-]
"The design of French tanks were not inadequate to their German counterparts; in fact, many French tank designs outpowered various early German tanks used during the first stages of the war. One single Char B1 was able to destroy thirteen German tanks within a few minutes in Stonne on 16 May 1940, all of them Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks."
If you read the article, you would know that the French strategy was not very effective because they always assigned tanks to infantry units, and most of their tanks didn't have radios. But that doesn't excuse the fact that you should read the damn article and maybe I shouldn't be taking all this bait.
#83 - sephirothpwnz (11/30/2013) [-]
And many of us consider France a joke, because of the fact that they surrendered so easily after their capital was taken, with virtually no resistence, because of their reliance on A. The Maginot Line, and B. their poor distribution of their forces throughout france.
#89 - pseudobob (11/30/2013) [-]
Very interesting, but is this feeling towards France (especially their military) all because of their performance in one war? A war that, while very important for a lot of reasons, happened 70 years ago. I don't think Jews still hate Germans, so there must be another reason, right?
On the other hand, it's understandable; some Americans also treat Canadians like we don't even have a military, even though we do, we always have, and it's quite capable. I think this may be because of our refusing to go to war in Iraq and especially Vietnam. This also happened in another era but still defines us in some peoples' views.
But that's just one example, and the question remains; what's up with the USA and France?
#97 - 2scared2login (12/04/2013) [-]
WWI. America did fuck all in WWI, while France stood by us Brits and fought tooth and nail in their own devastated countryside to fight of the German assault. The French Resistance resisted.
#94 - pseudobob (12/01/2013) [-]
Isn't it true that a heck of a lot of nations have lost a significant amount of power? You could easily say the same thing about Spain, England, Germany, and Italy, to name a few. I know that these things can pile up and France may be unique in its ability to disappoint Americans but I really don't understand this view and you're not taking me any closer to a satisfying understanding.
#96 - sephirothpwnz (12/01/2013) [-]
You really don't have to understand it. It is has mostly just become a small stereotypical type of joke, that most people (Generally Americans like myself) have come to think of as something as a hybrid of fact and joke. It is like thinking that all Russians Drink vodka for water, and all Germans have no sense of humor.
France in particular imo just isn't anything anymore, just like most of Europe, the only powerful players from Europe are arguably only Britain, and Russia.
So the whole "France is nothing but a bunch of pussies" has turned into a joke that most people see as either funny or true. take your pick.