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#20 - holy **** , that last one really got me.  [+] (24 new replies) 12/13/2014 on Hits blunt +3
User avatar #36 - somekornchick (12/13/2014) [-]
my mums a nurse, and one time she had a man in who was completely deaf and has been since birth. He can't speak, he can't read, and he can't write, but he knows the alphabet in sign language.

deaf people are freaking wizards.
User avatar #30 - tankeruber (12/13/2014) [-]
Fun fact, deaf people think in sign-language. Just like we hear our "thinking-voice" in our head, they "see" sign-language in their head. Source: Some book we need for school.
User avatar #31 - lyiat (12/13/2014) [-]
And for people who haven't been taught sign language? It's not so much a question about deaf people, it's more a question about people who haven't been taught language.
User avatar #32 - tankeruber (12/13/2014) [-]
Wouldn't it be like how animals "think", but they don't think in barks or anything, they just, sorta think? Like babies "think". You've kinda stumped me.
User avatar #35 - lyiat (12/13/2014) [-]
But how do animals think? What does their thinking 'sound' like? Whats it like to be in a bee's brain?

See, it's not something you can really wrap your head around, is it? You don't need to be high for this one to make your head boil.
#38 - moonmeander (12/13/2014) [-]
Animals think in concepts. There is no voice, there is no words. They just think in a pure concept form. They don't think the words "I need to go make honey", they think of the literal process and actions of making honey. If we reduce language down, we find that the only reason that we know what any word means is because we know what the concept is. Every word in a language has a definition made of more words, which are all defined by more words, a circular reference. To truly determine what the definition of a word is we reduce it to the literal concept that it represents. That's how we teach children.
User avatar #40 - lyiat (12/13/2014) [-]
But how do you break that down and visualize that thought process? What does that 'look' like? What does that 'sound' like? That method of thinking is actually vastly different from how we think.
#45 - moonmeander (12/13/2014) [-]
That defeats the purpose. It doesn't look or sound like anything we do, that's why it's different and why we don't understand it. The more that we try and simplify it back to our word-like basics the less of the true concept we actually have. The point is that we don't explain it in words because the concept by definition is not in words. Most of the 'concept' thought process that humans do happens subconsciously, and thus we don't really know what it consciously looks like. We do it, we just don't realise what that thought is. If we could understand what that thought process looks and sounds like, we could step closer to mastering our subconscious. It's just new to us which is why we don't understand it. I would imagine it would feel something like how our echo location works. We can locate sounds in the dark, but we don't consciously think in words how we managed to locate that sound. It just happens. There aren't words, just that we locate the sound because that's how it works.
#37 - notred (12/13/2014) [-]
I feel like animals don't consciously think. Like a dog can't think about something really. It's just instinct. Like if you get a brick thrown at you, you don't think about it you just flinch out of instinct.
User avatar #39 - lyiat (12/13/2014) [-]
Except such animals preform complex problem solving. They demonstrate reasoning, complex and nuanced emotions, and all sorts of other things. You use a picture of a wolf, of all creatures, a pack hunter with incredibly diverse and complex pack structures, social interaction, and dynamic behavior that can't be simply sorted into, "It's just instinct."
User avatar #42 - notred (12/13/2014) [-]
It goes deeper than that, naturally. It's just ridiculous that somebody would consider something consciously thinking. At least in the way we perceive thinking.

We can't comprehend what they think because we are so advance.
User avatar #44 - lyiat (12/13/2014) [-]
No, they very much do think. It might be in simple concepts and wordless emotions, but they certainly do think. About the only thing we can't really figure out is if they're capable of abstraction, which might require language to do. Gorillas have demonstrated abstract thinking after being taught how to speak. The question is, have they thought that way before, or was the ability to think that way given to them by the power of speech?

Can a fish question the nature of the world?
User avatar #43 - notred (12/13/2014) [-]
Actually this is getting weird to even talk about. I feel autistic just thinking about it kinda.
User avatar #21 - twoderrick (12/13/2014) [-]
Got you as in made you laugh? Or got you as in got you thinking?
The answer is the language you read in obviously.
User avatar #26 - sketchysketchist (12/13/2014) [-]
Bruh, what if when you read english, in your mind you're reading in japanese.
User avatar #33 - gregthebobo (12/13/2014) [-]
hits blunt
#27 - twoderrick (12/13/2014) [-]
User avatar #23 - slapchoppin (12/13/2014) [-]
so you're saying that until deaf people learn to read they don't think
User avatar #25 - twoderrick (12/13/2014) [-]
No, I'm saying they don't use language to think until they know one.
User avatar #22 - gregthebobo (12/13/2014) [-]
both. I couldn't read from birth. How difficult must it be to formulate the understanding, when understanding words, requires formulation.
User avatar #24 - twoderrick (12/13/2014) [-]
I had to read that about 5 times.
I assume it would be something like how one would learn to speak.
But, instead of showing a visual of something and pairing it with a vocalization. It would instead be pair with the text relating to it.
Unless I completely misunderstood what you were saying, that should answer your possibly rhetorical question.
User avatar #28 - gregthebobo (12/13/2014) [-]
about as theoretical as it gets.
User avatar #29 - gregthebobo (12/13/2014) [-]
wish i had that blunt
User avatar #34 - gregthebobo (12/13/2014) [-]
what if we're all stoned and when we smoke weed we sober up and see things for what they really are?
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#60 - thesunpraiser (12/12/2014) [-]
This stuff.
User avatar #129 - gregthebobo (12/13/2014) [-]
I wear slices of cotton
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#7 - fefe (12/11/2014) [-]
cool story kid. I also play call of duty even when my mom tells me to go to bed.
User avatar #9 - gregthebobo (12/12/2014) [-]
dern tootin


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User avatar #1 - indonesia (11/19/2014) [-]
whoah you're old.
I respect you, sir.

I wish you were my grandpa or my father.
User avatar #2 to #1 - gregthebobo (11/19/2014) [-]
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