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#331 - Fair enough. Here in Sweden we have a party which is moderatel…  [+] (1 new reply) 01/25/2015 on political awearness 0
#332 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
Fuck, in Sweden the liberals are right wing.
#329 - Yes, socialism can be very liberal (socailly) or very authorat…  [+] (3 new replies) 01/25/2015 on political awearness 0
#330 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
US vs Everywhere else semantics. In the US, yes, everywhere else what you call libertarianism would be called right-libertarianism. From wikipedia (yes, I know, but I'm lazy): "The term libertarianism originally referred to a philosophical belief in free will but later became associated with anti-state socialism and Enlightenment-influenced[9][10] political movements critical of institutional authority believed to serve forms of social domination and injustice. While it has generally retained its earlier political usage as a synonym for either social or individualist anarchism through much of the world, in the United States it has since come to describe pro-capitalist economic liberalism more so than radical, anti-capitalist egalitarianism."

Socialism does not seek to interfere with others wealth- that's just one possible method of achieving socialism.
User avatar #331 - grebllejk (01/25/2015) [-]
Fair enough. Here in Sweden we have a party which is moderately right wing which describes itself as "the liberals" - I suppose it's all just names anyway
#332 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
Fuck, in Sweden the liberals are right wing.
#327 - OK, I just thought that the two were basically opposites. I me…  [+] (5 new replies) 01/25/2015 on political awearness 0
#328 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
Socialism can be authoritarian or libertarian, just like capitalism can be (and for similar reasons). At the extreme authoritarian end you get Stalin, and at the extreme libertarian end you get stuff like no more currency and freedom to do whatever as long as you don't hurt people (i.e. anarcho-communism). I personally believe in a free market (i.e. one with constraints to stop the build-up of monopolies and policies to protect the consumer like forcing food companies to label all their ingredients) and lack of any governmental moral intervention (i.e. nothing could be censored for being "obscene"- don't like it don't buy it). I'd also support free healthcare, homes, water, and heating, as well as food stamps- basically everything you need to survive. In the country I live in (the UK) I would go against what most other libertarians believe and oppose out-of-range gun ownership in general, simply because it's very unlikely to find a criminal with a gun and introducing firearms would kind of ruin that. The US has a very different problem, as it's already very easy to get guns so a gun-ban would be about as successful as the prohibition.
User avatar #329 - grebllejk (01/25/2015) [-]
Yes, socialism can be very liberal (socailly) or very authoratitive, but at the end of the day socialism is still the antithesis of libertarianism. I think you are confusing Liberalism with Libertarianism. Libertarianism is a decidedly "purist" right wing idea - it's basically a capitalism style "everything (legal) is possible, every man decides his own fate and does what he wants" but without the cronyism we see in the UK and especially the USA. Socialism, by nature, however, wants people to share more wealth, and so whilst socialism can still be very socially liberal (gay marriage, single parent adoptions etc) it's less concerned with allowing people to go their own way in terms of making money, and chooses to "interfere" (for lack of a better word) with their wealth (for better or worse).
#330 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
US vs Everywhere else semantics. In the US, yes, everywhere else what you call libertarianism would be called right-libertarianism. From wikipedia (yes, I know, but I'm lazy): "The term libertarianism originally referred to a philosophical belief in free will but later became associated with anti-state socialism and Enlightenment-influenced[9][10] political movements critical of institutional authority believed to serve forms of social domination and injustice. While it has generally retained its earlier political usage as a synonym for either social or individualist anarchism through much of the world, in the United States it has since come to describe pro-capitalist economic liberalism more so than radical, anti-capitalist egalitarianism."

Socialism does not seek to interfere with others wealth- that's just one possible method of achieving socialism.
User avatar #331 - grebllejk (01/25/2015) [-]
Fair enough. Here in Sweden we have a party which is moderately right wing which describes itself as "the liberals" - I suppose it's all just names anyway
#332 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
Fuck, in Sweden the liberals are right wing.
#285 - Clarification please. Are you writing that, whether you were l…  [+] (11 new replies) 01/24/2015 on political awearness 0
#321 - hongkonglongdong (01/24/2015) [-]
Well, both. I'm a libertarian socialist, and I still like the site because it's a good site. The politics has nothing to do with it. I was just using me as an example (i.e. my completely different political views from much of the site doesn't impact how much I like the site at all, as opposed to ezzay who said that the shared political views did impact how much he liked the site).
User avatar #327 - grebllejk (01/25/2015) [-]
OK, I just thought that the two were basically opposites. I mean Libertarianism strives for less government and lower taxes whereas socialism strives for larger government and higher taxes
#328 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
Socialism can be authoritarian or libertarian, just like capitalism can be (and for similar reasons). At the extreme authoritarian end you get Stalin, and at the extreme libertarian end you get stuff like no more currency and freedom to do whatever as long as you don't hurt people (i.e. anarcho-communism). I personally believe in a free market (i.e. one with constraints to stop the build-up of monopolies and policies to protect the consumer like forcing food companies to label all their ingredients) and lack of any governmental moral intervention (i.e. nothing could be censored for being "obscene"- don't like it don't buy it). I'd also support free healthcare, homes, water, and heating, as well as food stamps- basically everything you need to survive. In the country I live in (the UK) I would go against what most other libertarians believe and oppose out-of-range gun ownership in general, simply because it's very unlikely to find a criminal with a gun and introducing firearms would kind of ruin that. The US has a very different problem, as it's already very easy to get guns so a gun-ban would be about as successful as the prohibition.
User avatar #329 - grebllejk (01/25/2015) [-]
Yes, socialism can be very liberal (socailly) or very authoratitive, but at the end of the day socialism is still the antithesis of libertarianism. I think you are confusing Liberalism with Libertarianism. Libertarianism is a decidedly "purist" right wing idea - it's basically a capitalism style "everything (legal) is possible, every man decides his own fate and does what he wants" but without the cronyism we see in the UK and especially the USA. Socialism, by nature, however, wants people to share more wealth, and so whilst socialism can still be very socially liberal (gay marriage, single parent adoptions etc) it's less concerned with allowing people to go their own way in terms of making money, and chooses to "interfere" (for lack of a better word) with their wealth (for better or worse).
#330 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
US vs Everywhere else semantics. In the US, yes, everywhere else what you call libertarianism would be called right-libertarianism. From wikipedia (yes, I know, but I'm lazy): "The term libertarianism originally referred to a philosophical belief in free will but later became associated with anti-state socialism and Enlightenment-influenced[9][10] political movements critical of institutional authority believed to serve forms of social domination and injustice. While it has generally retained its earlier political usage as a synonym for either social or individualist anarchism through much of the world, in the United States it has since come to describe pro-capitalist economic liberalism more so than radical, anti-capitalist egalitarianism."

Socialism does not seek to interfere with others wealth- that's just one possible method of achieving socialism.
User avatar #331 - grebllejk (01/25/2015) [-]
Fair enough. Here in Sweden we have a party which is moderately right wing which describes itself as "the liberals" - I suppose it's all just names anyway
#332 - hongkonglongdong (01/25/2015) [-]
Fuck, in Sweden the liberals are right wing.
User avatar #322 - ezzay (01/24/2015) [-]
just to clarify, I love this site regardless of it major political leanings. if everyone all of the sudden stopped talking politics, I would be sad, but I would still be here. The fact that it fits my political views, is just a plus and my favorite plus. also looked at how other liberal sites buckled under the liberal heel in recent events.
#323 - hongkonglongdong (01/24/2015) [-]
I wouldn't say they buckled. I'd say they just showed their colours.

It's not like Conservative sites don't do the same thing, it's just that people didn't expect liberal sites to have such an agenda. Which is stupid, but understandable.
User avatar #324 - ezzay (01/24/2015) [-]
oh. Once again I see your point. but even still you have to admit there is a lot of secrecy and shady politics going on those other sites. even... what political standing would you put four chan in?... can it even have one?... anyway, at least the conservative sites aren't moderating what you say and suppressing dissenting voices.
#325 - hongkonglongdong (01/24/2015) [-]
Except they are. The authoritarian ones, anyway (most political parties in general are authoritarian, as are their sites). I would say 4chan/8chan are primarily libertarian, but have Conservative support relative to the rest of the nerd-culture world (although of course lots of left-wing people do go there). The thing is, the left is no more likely to censor than the right. The right has its moral crusaders (and has done for centuries), liberals have their moral crusaders (and have for centuries) and the left has moral crusaders, too (i.e. the Bolsheviks, who were definitely far-left if not really communist).
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