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|#22 - Yeah, that was a close one. [+] (10 new replies)||11/16/2013 on Solar flare 200 times...||0|
#25 - ribbedandstudded (11/16/2013) [-]
While I do agree that it wasn't a close one, it was not because it wouldn't have reached us. See, is a cloud of high energy ions, electrons and atoms flung into space from the sun. They don't go very fast, reaching Earth in 1-2 days (if they're going in the right direction, of course) and the most they do is fuck with electronics to differing scales depending on their magnitude.
However, Solar Flares are often followed by Coronal Mass Ejections (what is actually shown in the .gif and pic above). they take around 5 days to reach Earth, once again provided they are flung out in the right direction. However, these things have the potential to send us back to the stone age. The largest one that we know of made the auroras visible in France. France. there weren't a lot of electronics at that time, but some scientists believe that a modern day CME of that magnitude would destroy power structures, satellites, and any electronics right down to the cell phone in your pocket. In my opinion, the most likely doomsday scenario. While it won't destroy life, just imagine what the world would be like without and technology at all. we'd have to rebuild the very infrastructure of our planetbby hand before we can recreate machines to help us (yes, your car will be dead too and there will be no replacement batteries because they'll all be dead too. so will the machines that make the batteries, so no batteries)
My knowledge is somewhat limited, but you get the jist of it.
#28 - lyiat (11/16/2013) [-]
And do you know the easiest way to keep that from happening? Turn everything off during the CME, and unplug it from the power grid.
Don't believe me? It's the same exact way you'd protect yourself from EMP, which works off pretty much the same principals. The electronics have to be on and working in order to be effected by such a blast. And, considering we'd have a good large warning of one happening, it wouldn't be that difficult to prepare for.
#29 - ribbedandstudded (11/16/2013) [-]
That'd work for small electronics, but for things like power grids... well, they're just fucked. I remember something about the Alaskan pipeline having issues simply because it's a big, long metal thing. Power grids, which are built to transfer energy, would have huge problems whether they were on or off. Transformers would explode, cutting off power to facilities needed to rebuild them... it'd be a clusterfuck.
Last estimates I heard were that it'd take at least 6 months to get back to snuff, at best. Also, if anybody did have their phone on when the CME hit, the phone would discharge killing the person holding it. Comparing a CME to an EMP is like comparing a grenade to nuclear bomb... conventional thinking only goes so far...
#31 - lyiat (11/16/2013) [-]
Which, again, if you shut the whole grid down won't actually be dangerous. We could easily survive a CME as a nation just by temporary shutting down our power plants (easier said than done, I know, but it's the difference between a temporary national crisis and being reduced to a pre-historic culture).
And no, that wouldn't happen to your phone. Who the shit told you that? The only way that'd happen is if you had some sort of massive dinosaur phone with a giant antenna. As long as your electronics are off and not connected to a power source (remove the goddamn batteries), the CME won't even effect them. Stay away from giant metal conductors to avoid concentrated EMP blasts that could fry your body. It's actually arbitrary simple. Our satellite system would be fucked to hell, though.
#33 - ribbedandstudded (11/16/2013) [-]
Once again, that'd happen to the power grid regardless of whether it's on or off... it's because it's a dinosaur of a design and vastly unprotected from the MASSIVE amount of energy contained in a CME.. seriously. we're talking huge. EMP::CME : grenade::nuke hiding behind a think wall will protect you from a grenade, but not a nuke
Did you even read the part where I said that would happen if your phone was on? it kinda has to be connected to a power source for that... and the power source would explode from being overcharged regardless of where it was because it's just as unprotected from CME energy as the power grid unless that just so happens to be in a lead lined room with the battery wrapped in gold mesh
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