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#42 - 1. Angels are all-knowledgable 2. Angels know what the out…  [+] (59 new replies) 06/01/2014 on I found a pen in my window... 0
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#95 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Well, he seemed to be trying to prove that praying is pointless entirely.

Now, while I myself am not religious at all, I wouldn't say it's pointless. At the very least, it makes people feel better.
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#98 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Exactly. Being religious I think my prayers are going to God so whenever I ask for help i ask for just that, not what i think is what will help me. He knows best after all, what i think is helpful might not be the most helpful
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#99 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Which makes prayers not at all pointless. Only pointless to those who don't follow any religion.
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#100 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
This was a good argument.
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#102 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Why thank you, sir.

I try my best to stay polite and use actual logic.
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#103 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Yup. Oh and michigan blows go buckeyes
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#104 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Now, see, here we were, having a nice, pleasant conversation, and you had to go and do that. Quite rude, sir, quite rude.

Especially because we both know that isn't true.
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#105 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
lol. so pumped for next season tho.
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#106 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Of, of course, of course.

Especially since it'll have our last game against Notre Dame for the foreseeable future.

My brother's currently going to Michigan,. and he was at the Student Center during the Notre Dame game last year. Which is about a mile away from the stadium. And he heard the cheering from there.
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#107 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
I havent been to the Big House since 2007. I heard its a lot louder since the upgrades to the stadium.
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#108 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
I was there for the '06 season myself.

It probably is. I mean, it's the largest stadium in North America. Third largest in the world.

And they didn't have permanent lights until a few years ago.
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#109 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
My favorite part about that stadium is that since its all one level all the seats are good seats.
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#110 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
I was in the student section, so I got to see some shenanigans.

Including a giant inflatable dick during the Michigan/Michigan State game.

And a guy with an armful of hot dogs tossing them out to random peoples.
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#111 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
lol i could only imagine how hard ESPN would try to keep it out of view
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#112 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
It had "MSU" written on it in large letters.

And a State fan in the student section got hit repeatedly with it.

It was hilarious.
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#113 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
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#59 - nimba (06/01/2014) [-]
If they are all knowing how could they have different opinions
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#62 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Different angels have different personalities fore lack of a better term, so they view things differently like how we do. You can understand how to play basketball but that doesnt mean you like playing it
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#68 - nimba (06/01/2014) [-]
Being all knowing means that you are always right. Take God, for example. Should God's word be taken with a pinch of salt because it's just his opinion? Is God more all knowing than angels?
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#72 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
It doesnt mean youre right, I know killing an innocent orphan is wrong, so if i actually do it dont make it right.
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#115 - nimba (06/01/2014) [-]
But how can you ever be wrong if you know everything?
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#52 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
if i pray to change your mind, will it work?
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#56 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
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#57 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
then praying is pointless as you said
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#58 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Thats retarded, just because youre prayer got answered with something you didnt want doesnt mean its pointless. Itll be answered with what God chooses best for your soul not what you want.
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#61 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
> " Itll be answered with what God chooses best for your soul not what you want."

so, again, praying is pointless
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#65 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
God isnt youre slave he only gives you what is best for your salvation
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#69 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
i know that, so if HE has a plan, its pointless to pray because HE wont change his own plan.

so, again, its pointless to pray
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#75 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
"Ask, and you shall receive"

I know Jesus said that somewhere but i dont know where exactly.
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#83 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
and he killed a little plant just because the plant hasnt fruits for him. the plant was out of season btw

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#85 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
He was teaching a lesson about how being a bad person will bring you to your doom
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#88 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
you are very religious arent you
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#90 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
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#94 - aurumuru (06/01/2014) [-]
you shouldnt because religions are made by men
you should follow God, or Gods... or whatever that makes you happy and a good person
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#96 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Jesus is God. And true, as long as you think its the one that teaches the most truth.
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#60 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
So then it isn't pointless to pray for him.
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#67 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Also, go buckeyes.
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#63 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
It is pointless to pray for Satan because he wont decide to be good
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#66 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
And like you said, praying for you to change your mind won't actually change it.

And then you stated that not getting the answer you want doesn't make it pointless.

So make up your mind.
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#70 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Then yes, that specific prayer would be pointless. But my original point was that Satan wont change his mind, just like me.
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#71 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
So what if he won't change his mind? Doesn't make the prayer pointless. Your logic states that.
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#73 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
My logic originally says that praying for something to happen that wont ever happen is pointless. When did i say otherwise?
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#76 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Comment #58:

"Thats retarded, just because youre prayer got answered with something you didnt want doesnt mean its pointless. Itll be answered with what God chooses best for your soul not what you want."

Basically, that boils down to the fact that you should pray anyways, because you'll get the result that's best for you.

So, it doesn't matter that Satan will never see the light or whatever. Pray for him anyways. God will respond to your prayer with the answer you need.
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#77 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Ok. Yes then that comment was wrong.
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#79 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Well, kinda silly to change your mind on that, huh?

Besides, praying for Satan would be a good thing. Shows God that you care for everybody.

Didn't Jesus say to love thine enemy?
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#81 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
It shows you care sure but it wont change anything.
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#84 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]

How's that saying go?

It's the thought that counts.
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#86 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Yeah i know i agreed with you that it shows you care
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#87 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Then praying for him isn't pointless.
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#91 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
i hate losing these arguments
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#92 - kerfufflemachtwo (06/01/2014) [-]
Eh, at least neither of us went stupid and crazy during it. That's always a good thing.
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#93 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
true, true. i think i beat that other guy above though for what it counts.
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#89 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
I guess youre right. The point is minuscule but still a point.
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#45 - wellimnotsure (06/01/2014) [-]
angel's are not all knowing, who told you that?
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#49 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
You're right, they don't know everything but they did know what they (demons) were getting themselves into. And to answer you're question, a Catholic priest. You can look in the catechism to know what the church teaches if you want to.
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#51 - wellimnotsure (06/01/2014) [-]
Angel's are only ever referred to as wise. They have no ability of foresight. They are explicitly said not to have it. "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only" (Matthew 24:36).
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#55 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
True, but only the end of time. As heaven has no limits of time, there is nothing keeping them from not knowing what is ahead of them. Ill have to research this more, you bring up good points.
#44 - leutdan (06/01/2014) [-]
This makes sense
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#43 - frenchgenocide (06/01/2014) [-]
Jesus Christ i have to spell check next time
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#86 - MikeLit (04/10/2014) [-]
Oh. I can't keep up with all these young-people fads, I've got to guard my front yard from trespassing children.
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#89 - dehnoobshow (02/09/2014) [-]
No no no.
''My friend died because he fapped so hard the skin on his dick ripped off.''
At least make it amusing.
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#54 - dehnoobshow (02/08/2014) [-]
>Username is FrenchGenocide
>Doesn't want us to joke because someone died
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#45 - micekill (02/08/2014) [-]
was he crushed by the weight of all his fake games?
#48 - DeathOne (02/08/2014) [-]
He must've stored all his games on this.
#14 - this post makes me sad ;_;  [+] (2 new replies) 02/08/2014 on (untitled) -8
#15 - dehnoobshow (02/08/2014) [-]
You make me sad ;_;
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