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#112 - The gender binary "is the classification of sex and gende…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/04/2016 on Minimum wage ain't enough... 0
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#114 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
And why shouldn't we give more rounded values to our children? Girls who play with legos, even the ones marketed at boys, have better spacial cognition than girls who just play with dolls. And boys who play with dolls tend to be more emotional and empathetic. These are good things.
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#113 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
I do. Lots of people, and society itself, tells their children to conform to one or the other side of the toy aisle.

"Most girls prefer dolls/boys prefer action figures" except that's not true, there's been plenty of marketing research that indicates that children like both. Sexual dimorphism does not in any way factor into cognitive function.

It does make sense though, when the data indicates that girls especially would buy into video games and male toys if society stopped telling them 'they're just for boys.' Have you not even watched adam ruins everything? It's what got me interested in this topic. There are lots of boys who'd love an easy-bake oven, but it's pink and girly.

Boys fucking LOVE playsets, which are what dollhouses are. How else do you think the little castle with all the soldiers and the king in it sells so well? You get a gender-neutral dollhouse, boys will play in it. Hell that's what a fucking cardboard box is.

If you honestly think that companies wouldn't make any money by marketing their products to both or even neither genders, just take a look at what lego is doing. By excluding an entire market of girls, or boys for that matter, from their product, they were actually losing money. Now there's legos for boys and for girls, and lego is also going back to gender neutral sets of just plain legos. And they're cashing in majorly.

The only reason there exists "dolls for girls and action figures for boys" today is because in the 80s some fuckhead decided that the two genders should have separate toys to instill separate values in children.
#110 - "Why can't a boy play with a doll? Or a girl play with a …  [+] (4 new replies) 02/04/2016 on Minimum wage ain't enough... 0
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#111 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
Good point, but the better solution would be to just stop marketing toys to specific genders. I mean, as a boy, how does it feel knowing only girls are supposed to play with the dolls you like so much? If you have a boy, and ask for a happy meal for a girl, that's essentially telling the boy he's not normal.

I don't know what the gender binary is, I just assumed it was the social constraints of being "girly" or "manly" forced upon children. Which is pretty fucking real and by this point, annoying. If I'm wrong, by all means, correct me.

I'm not advocating bitching to a mcdonalds employee over the existence of gender, just saying that labeling toys by gender is retarded especially as the market would expand massively and make much more money if we just said toys are for kids.
#112 - fragman (02/04/2016) [-]
The gender binary "is the classification of sex and gender into two distinct, opposite and disconnected forms of masculine and feminine".
Which is why it gets the crowd of braindead feminists so up in arms because it doesn't allow a safe space for mental illness acceptance.

I honestly don't know a single person, parent or not, that has an issue with their kids playing with whatever toys they want (except maybe mommy's special toys but that's a whole other discussion).
That doesn't change the fact that most boys will prefer playing with action figures and cars while most girls will prefer dolls etc.
We are a sexually dimorphic species after all.

And from the marketing perspective, no it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to advertise in a gender-neutral way. Gender-oriented marketing is being done for one simple reason: to oppress women because it works and increases profits.

So say your competitors advertise their dollhouse specifically towards girls and you don't. And let's assume in a very ultra-progressive manner that 10% of the customers buying dollhouses will be boys. Since your competitors have a very real edge on 90% of the customer base, you're simply shooting yourself in the foot with that gender-neutral marketing.

That is, in an oversimplified way, why noone does it...
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#114 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
And why shouldn't we give more rounded values to our children? Girls who play with legos, even the ones marketed at boys, have better spacial cognition than girls who just play with dolls. And boys who play with dolls tend to be more emotional and empathetic. These are good things.
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#113 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
I do. Lots of people, and society itself, tells their children to conform to one or the other side of the toy aisle.

"Most girls prefer dolls/boys prefer action figures" except that's not true, there's been plenty of marketing research that indicates that children like both. Sexual dimorphism does not in any way factor into cognitive function.

It does make sense though, when the data indicates that girls especially would buy into video games and male toys if society stopped telling them 'they're just for boys.' Have you not even watched adam ruins everything? It's what got me interested in this topic. There are lots of boys who'd love an easy-bake oven, but it's pink and girly.

Boys fucking LOVE playsets, which are what dollhouses are. How else do you think the little castle with all the soldiers and the king in it sells so well? You get a gender-neutral dollhouse, boys will play in it. Hell that's what a fucking cardboard box is.

If you honestly think that companies wouldn't make any money by marketing their products to both or even neither genders, just take a look at what lego is doing. By excluding an entire market of girls, or boys for that matter, from their product, they were actually losing money. Now there's legos for boys and for girls, and lego is also going back to gender neutral sets of just plain legos. And they're cashing in majorly.

The only reason there exists "dolls for girls and action figures for boys" today is because in the 80s some fuckhead decided that the two genders should have separate toys to instill separate values in children.
#16 - > Isabella's first 3D arm So before that she had w…  [+] (7 new replies) 02/03/2016 on Isabella's first 3D arm +116
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#73 - sanitarysan (02/04/2016) [-]
she had no arm i imagine.
#66 - anon (02/04/2016) [-]
well it started out 3d but it ended up 2d
#53 - anon (02/04/2016) [-]
she made several from cardboard before her mom found funding for the robo arm
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#39 - dreygur (02/04/2016) [-]
4D. She had a downgrade.
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#28 - jomgor (02/04/2016) [-]
they mean 3d printed
#34 - anon (02/04/2016) [-]
I think he knows.

But, thumb because there's bound to be someone who didn't understand.
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#18 - darksideofthebeast (02/03/2016) [-]
No, it was 1d, basically non existent in our reality.
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#7 - "I just can't feckin run" is always relevant 02/03/2016 on Fer fecks sake! +2
#18 - Also, and this needs to be phrased in a complicated way becaus… 02/03/2016 on (untitled) 0
#5 - Yeah I got me one of those, they're really fun. Shame that… 02/03/2016 on Chick magnet. +1
#12 - Fun game: Mentally replace instances of "gender binary&qu…  [+] (9 new replies) 02/03/2016 on Minimum wage ain't enough... +32
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#87 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
but blue for boys and pink for girls isn't reality. just sayin'
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#100 - feedtehtrollz (02/04/2016) [-]
what kind of toys do you get with your happy meals?
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#109 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
Well I'm just saying they usually give dolls to girls and trucks to boys.

Why can't a boy play with a doll? Or a girl play with a truck? Society goes in and out of these phases where boys and girls are marketed to separately, and we're finding out that there's a huge potential if we market "male" toys to girls now.

So it's kind of stupid to label toys "for girls" and "for boys"

Isn't that what the SJW is bitching about?
#110 - fragman (02/04/2016) [-]
"Why can't a boy play with a doll? Or a girl play with a truck?"
Agreed.
So if you have a boy that likes dolls, what's the pragmatic thing to do in this situation?
Tell them you want a happy meal for a girl
Bitch about how made up shit like gender binary is real and problematic, better yet also toxic and harmful and the bane of society.

Fucking obviously
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#111 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
Good point, but the better solution would be to just stop marketing toys to specific genders. I mean, as a boy, how does it feel knowing only girls are supposed to play with the dolls you like so much? If you have a boy, and ask for a happy meal for a girl, that's essentially telling the boy he's not normal.

I don't know what the gender binary is, I just assumed it was the social constraints of being "girly" or "manly" forced upon children. Which is pretty fucking real and by this point, annoying. If I'm wrong, by all means, correct me.

I'm not advocating bitching to a mcdonalds employee over the existence of gender, just saying that labeling toys by gender is retarded especially as the market would expand massively and make much more money if we just said toys are for kids.
#112 - fragman (02/04/2016) [-]
The gender binary "is the classification of sex and gender into two distinct, opposite and disconnected forms of masculine and feminine".
Which is why it gets the crowd of braindead feminists so up in arms because it doesn't allow a safe space for mental illness acceptance.

I honestly don't know a single person, parent or not, that has an issue with their kids playing with whatever toys they want (except maybe mommy's special toys but that's a whole other discussion).
That doesn't change the fact that most boys will prefer playing with action figures and cars while most girls will prefer dolls etc.
We are a sexually dimorphic species after all.

And from the marketing perspective, no it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to advertise in a gender-neutral way. Gender-oriented marketing is being done for one simple reason: to oppress women because it works and increases profits.

So say your competitors advertise their dollhouse specifically towards girls and you don't. And let's assume in a very ultra-progressive manner that 10% of the customers buying dollhouses will be boys. Since your competitors have a very real edge on 90% of the customer base, you're simply shooting yourself in the foot with that gender-neutral marketing.

That is, in an oversimplified way, why noone does it...
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#114 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
And why shouldn't we give more rounded values to our children? Girls who play with legos, even the ones marketed at boys, have better spacial cognition than girls who just play with dolls. And boys who play with dolls tend to be more emotional and empathetic. These are good things.
User avatar
#113 - elcreepo (02/04/2016) [-]
I do. Lots of people, and society itself, tells their children to conform to one or the other side of the toy aisle.

"Most girls prefer dolls/boys prefer action figures" except that's not true, there's been plenty of marketing research that indicates that children like both. Sexual dimorphism does not in any way factor into cognitive function.

It does make sense though, when the data indicates that girls especially would buy into video games and male toys if society stopped telling them 'they're just for boys.' Have you not even watched adam ruins everything? It's what got me interested in this topic. There are lots of boys who'd love an easy-bake oven, but it's pink and girly.

Boys fucking LOVE playsets, which are what dollhouses are. How else do you think the little castle with all the soldiers and the king in it sells so well? You get a gender-neutral dollhouse, boys will play in it. Hell that's what a fucking cardboard box is.

If you honestly think that companies wouldn't make any money by marketing their products to both or even neither genders, just take a look at what lego is doing. By excluding an entire market of girls, or boys for that matter, from their product, they were actually losing money. Now there's legos for boys and for girls, and lego is also going back to gender neutral sets of just plain legos. And they're cashing in majorly.

The only reason there exists "dolls for girls and action figures for boys" today is because in the 80s some fuckhead decided that the two genders should have separate toys to instill separate values in children.
#30 - anon (02/03/2016) [-]
And don't forget to replace all other words that refer to a majority with "normal".
#25 - Dunno what the view count was, but here's an explanation as to… 02/03/2016 on history of japan 0
#12 - great view on crime city. It's where I can never stop at a…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/03/2016 on Not sure if Switzerland or... +3
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#13 - erotictentacle (02/03/2016) [-]
Good old Biel~
#3 - > They bleed for a month That is pretty much on the sam…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/02/2016 on (untitled) +2
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#7 - archiethesailor (02/03/2016) [-]
Yeah, I messed up there. I meant week.