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#339  We created it, and we laid out the rules based on how we made … [+] (10 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#342 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] We defined the basic pillars on which math expands the so called "axioms" which we try to get rid of all together or reduce them to a minimum. If math couldn't be watched in nature why do you think we started using it. Math exists where our answers correlate to chemistry, physics and biology. #347 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] Because we created math in order to explain nature. That's why in chemistry and physics you often have constants you have to memorize for your equations. These constants often seem like a bunch of numbers bunched together, but using them is the only way we can make our math work for the science we're using it in. #362 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] We still can't arbitrarily choose the rules. They are defined by the maths which we go through in order for it to fit. #365 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] That's just it though. Original rules of math were made as people saw fit. Initially we only had a tiny fraction of mathematical calculations that we currently used. Hell in prehistoric math numbers went 1, 2, many. Mathematics as we know them now were not necessary back then as people lived in much simpler ways. As we developed and progressed we started developing more advanced calculations necessary for our lifestyles. It's really fascinating to learn about things like this if you're interested in human development through history. If you want the wiki page shows quite a lot. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics #366 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math advances because we need more advanced maths for the calculations were doing in nature. #371 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Can't answer to your last question. Math is absolutely not like a language a language is made up by a arbitrarily defined set of rules. Which math isn't. #369 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math might be created by humans but it's nature that lays out how it works. #367 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] And therefore the current math we use which is based on basic axioms which can't be proven true or just haven't been up to now and nature. #370 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] One way to look at math is just to consider it a language of numbers. In regular languages we use letters, which we put together into words, which then go together into sentences used to describe things. Math uses numbers instead of letters, operations instead of words, equations instead of sentences. Yes it is used to calculate things in nature, but it is in no way restricted to the nature, and didn't come for it. That's like saying that nature created languages.  
#338  If you want to use proper grammar as an example for dumbing do… [+] (2 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#341 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] I did mention the word "technically" which means in a base, simple form, there is one answer. But if looked into a deeper level. it might be able to be something else as well... and it is not trying to "dumb it down", but trying to make it easier so we can get through the problem quicker. A tool which is easy in our fast pace world. And if you pardon me, I must be heading towards my campus because some of us actually care about education over arguing over silly manners and ignoring proof. #349 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] You also give an example in the end of your original reply showing that "technicality" and giving people a wrong answer. Nowhere in there did you say that the first "more parenthesis" example you showed was the correct way to solve it. Also it's over 8 PM in my timezone, on a Saturday, so you can take your high and mighty attitude to your campus, but I have a full time job allowing me to spend my weekend evenings doing whatever I want.  
#332  Wait, you're a Physics major, and you think that 6 / 2(1+2) = … [+] (3 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  1 
#348 
PgFalcon (08/10/2013) [] Your apology is accepted. Granted, when reading something fast or skimming it (as everyone does on funnyjunk when presented with large amounts of writing) that sentence could get easily misread like that, especially if whoever reads it isn't a native English speaker. Perhaps I should have written it instead as: "If it had been written properly all these mother fucking idiots would realize just how unapproachably stupid they are when they say the answer is one." XD  
#329  The only reason for it to be "misleading" is because… [+] (4 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#333 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] oh. and if you haven't noticed. I have stated that I do think that the answer is 9. But the thing I am arguing is the same thing as arguing for why to have proper grammar in languages. Because it makes it easier for everyone to understand. Education or not. So please. Stop your bitching. #338 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] If you want to use proper grammar as an example for dumbing down this question for people, then you might as well ask all textbooks and literature to be written at a first grade level because people might not understand it otherwise. I like how you claim "that I do think that the answer is 9", yet your original comment stated "It technically could be both depending on how you do PEMDAS". That definitely doesn't state that there's only one answer, that states that it could be both. #341 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] I did mention the word "technically" which means in a base, simple form, there is one answer. But if looked into a deeper level. it might be able to be something else as well... and it is not trying to "dumb it down", but trying to make it easier so we can get through the problem quicker. A tool which is easy in our fast pace world. And if you pardon me, I must be heading towards my campus because some of us actually care about education over arguing over silly manners and ignoring proof. #349 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] You also give an example in the end of your original reply showing that "technicality" and giving people a wrong answer. Nowhere in there did you say that the first "more parenthesis" example you showed was the correct way to solve it. Also it's over 8 PM in my timezone, on a Saturday, so you can take your high and mighty attitude to your campus, but I have a full time job allowing me to spend my weekend evenings doing whatever I want.  
#318  Did you actually watch the video you linked yourself? "Th… [+] (6 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#320 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] Well... the problem I am pointing out is the fact that it can be misleading if it is written an awkward way (as he pointed out in the video). So can I ask you a question. Did you watch the video? If you did, why are you arguing over a point I already explained why I am right. even by using your own source. #333 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] oh. and if you haven't noticed. I have stated that I do think that the answer is 9. But the thing I am arguing is the same thing as arguing for why to have proper grammar in languages. Because it makes it easier for everyone to understand. Education or not. So please. Stop your bitching. #338 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] If you want to use proper grammar as an example for dumbing down this question for people, then you might as well ask all textbooks and literature to be written at a first grade level because people might not understand it otherwise. I like how you claim "that I do think that the answer is 9", yet your original comment stated "It technically could be both depending on how you do PEMDAS". That definitely doesn't state that there's only one answer, that states that it could be both. #341 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] I did mention the word "technically" which means in a base, simple form, there is one answer. But if looked into a deeper level. it might be able to be something else as well... and it is not trying to "dumb it down", but trying to make it easier so we can get through the problem quicker. A tool which is easy in our fast pace world. And if you pardon me, I must be heading towards my campus because some of us actually care about education over arguing over silly manners and ignoring proof. #349 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] You also give an example in the end of your original reply showing that "technicality" and giving people a wrong answer. Nowhere in there did you say that the first "more parenthesis" example you showed was the correct way to solve it. Also it's over 8 PM in my timezone, on a Saturday, so you can take your high and mighty attitude to your campus, but I have a full time job allowing me to spend my weekend evenings doing whatever I want.  
#309  It's not the equation that is badly written, it's the people t… [+] (5 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  +1 
#316 
PgFalcon (08/10/2013) [] Yea, but it uses elementary school notation. Pemdas still works for that because children are taught to do math from left to right, which in that format will always prevent you from multiplying something that needs to be divided by, but doing something because it is rote is bad science as well as bad math. It's better to understand what your doing rather than just knowing the motions. That even applies to dividing. If the equation had been written properly everyone would immediately see the problem with arriving at the answer of 1. #348 
PgFalcon (08/10/2013) [] Your apology is accepted. Granted, when reading something fast or skimming it (as everyone does on funnyjunk when presented with large amounts of writing) that sentence could get easily misread like that, especially if whoever reads it isn't a native English speaker. Perhaps I should have written it instead as: "If it had been written properly all these mother fucking idiots would realize just how unapproachably stupid they are when they say the answer is one." XD  
#308  I've actually used this argument before, but it turned out the…  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#305  I'm sorry but that is possibly the most retarded statement I h… [+] (23 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  1 
#315 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] and in the link you provided above. it actually says in the mnemonic section that it can be misleading and give you the wrong answer. Even your source to prove me wrong proves me right. #312 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math is not constructed by humans. We "created" it but we don't really lay out the rules. #342 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] We defined the basic pillars on which math expands the so called "axioms" which we try to get rid of all together or reduce them to a minimum. If math couldn't be watched in nature why do you think we started using it. Math exists where our answers correlate to chemistry, physics and biology. #347 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] Because we created math in order to explain nature. That's why in chemistry and physics you often have constants you have to memorize for your equations. These constants often seem like a bunch of numbers bunched together, but using them is the only way we can make our math work for the science we're using it in. #362 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] We still can't arbitrarily choose the rules. They are defined by the maths which we go through in order for it to fit. #365 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] That's just it though. Original rules of math were made as people saw fit. Initially we only had a tiny fraction of mathematical calculations that we currently used. Hell in prehistoric math numbers went 1, 2, many. Mathematics as we know them now were not necessary back then as people lived in much simpler ways. As we developed and progressed we started developing more advanced calculations necessary for our lifestyles. It's really fascinating to learn about things like this if you're interested in human development through history. If you want the wiki page shows quite a lot. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics #366 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math advances because we need more advanced maths for the calculations were doing in nature. #371 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Can't answer to your last question. Math is absolutely not like a language a language is made up by a arbitrarily defined set of rules. Which math isn't. #369 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math might be created by humans but it's nature that lays out how it works. #367 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] And therefore the current math we use which is based on basic axioms which can't be proven true or just haven't been up to now and nature. #370 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] One way to look at math is just to consider it a language of numbers. In regular languages we use letters, which we put together into words, which then go together into sentences used to describe things. Math uses numbers instead of letters, operations instead of words, equations instead of sentences. Yes it is used to calculate things in nature, but it is in no way restricted to the nature, and didn't come for it. That's like saying that nature created languages. #317 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] THANK YOU! Some one gets it! There are many laws and properties of mathematics like in calculus or algebra that we still do not understand, but they some how work. #311 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] oh... and the video is actually called The Order of Operations is Wrong! #318 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] Did you actually watch the video you linked yourself? "The order of operations isn't technically wrong... it's morally wrong because it turns humans into robots" The video is basically ecouraging people to understand the basis of mathematics instead of memorizing garbage like PEMDAS. Which brings me back to my original point, the order of operations is a law in mathematics, and just because people don't know it correctly doesn't mean it's wrong. #320 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] Well... the problem I am pointing out is the fact that it can be misleading if it is written an awkward way (as he pointed out in the video). So can I ask you a question. Did you watch the video? If you did, why are you arguing over a point I already explained why I am right. even by using your own source. #333 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] oh. and if you haven't noticed. I have stated that I do think that the answer is 9. But the thing I am arguing is the same thing as arguing for why to have proper grammar in languages. Because it makes it easier for everyone to understand. Education or not. So please. Stop your bitching. #338 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] If you want to use proper grammar as an example for dumbing down this question for people, then you might as well ask all textbooks and literature to be written at a first grade level because people might not understand it otherwise. I like how you claim "that I do think that the answer is 9", yet your original comment stated "It technically could be both depending on how you do PEMDAS". That definitely doesn't state that there's only one answer, that states that it could be both. #341 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] I did mention the word "technically" which means in a base, simple form, there is one answer. But if looked into a deeper level. it might be able to be something else as well... and it is not trying to "dumb it down", but trying to make it easier so we can get through the problem quicker. A tool which is easy in our fast pace world. And if you pardon me, I must be heading towards my campus because some of us actually care about education over arguing over silly manners and ignoring proof. #349 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] You also give an example in the end of your original reply showing that "technicality" and giving people a wrong answer. Nowhere in there did you say that the first "more parenthesis" example you showed was the correct way to solve it. Also it's over 8 PM in my timezone, on a Saturday, so you can take your high and mighty attitude to your campus, but I have a full time job allowing me to spend my weekend evenings doing whatever I want.  
#300  Mathematicians don't argue over order of operations. [+] (25 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#301 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] yes they do... they actually argue over many topics because there are still so much about math that we are still learning about and still trying to comprehend. #305 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] I'm sorry but that is possibly the most retarded statement I have ever heard. We created math, so there's no "trying to comprehend". It's not like most sciences such as Chemistry, Biology, or Physics. Math doesn't exist in natural world, instead it is something that we created in order to explain things, and used it as a basis in science. If you're so confident that there's mathematicians arguing about order of operations, please provide some solid proof. #315 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] and in the link you provided above. it actually says in the mnemonic section that it can be misleading and give you the wrong answer. Even your source to prove me wrong proves me right. #312 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math is not constructed by humans. We "created" it but we don't really lay out the rules. #342 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] We defined the basic pillars on which math expands the so called "axioms" which we try to get rid of all together or reduce them to a minimum. If math couldn't be watched in nature why do you think we started using it. Math exists where our answers correlate to chemistry, physics and biology. #347 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] Because we created math in order to explain nature. That's why in chemistry and physics you often have constants you have to memorize for your equations. These constants often seem like a bunch of numbers bunched together, but using them is the only way we can make our math work for the science we're using it in. #362 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] We still can't arbitrarily choose the rules. They are defined by the maths which we go through in order for it to fit. #365 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] That's just it though. Original rules of math were made as people saw fit. Initially we only had a tiny fraction of mathematical calculations that we currently used. Hell in prehistoric math numbers went 1, 2, many. Mathematics as we know them now were not necessary back then as people lived in much simpler ways. As we developed and progressed we started developing more advanced calculations necessary for our lifestyles. It's really fascinating to learn about things like this if you're interested in human development through history. If you want the wiki page shows quite a lot. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics #366 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math advances because we need more advanced maths for the calculations were doing in nature. #371 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Can't answer to your last question. Math is absolutely not like a language a language is made up by a arbitrarily defined set of rules. Which math isn't. #369 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] Math might be created by humans but it's nature that lays out how it works. #367 
uldification (08/10/2013) [] And therefore the current math we use which is based on basic axioms which can't be proven true or just haven't been up to now and nature. #370 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] One way to look at math is just to consider it a language of numbers. In regular languages we use letters, which we put together into words, which then go together into sentences used to describe things. Math uses numbers instead of letters, operations instead of words, equations instead of sentences. Yes it is used to calculate things in nature, but it is in no way restricted to the nature, and didn't come for it. That's like saying that nature created languages. #317 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] THANK YOU! Some one gets it! There are many laws and properties of mathematics like in calculus or algebra that we still do not understand, but they some how work. #311 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] oh... and the video is actually called The Order of Operations is Wrong! #318 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] Did you actually watch the video you linked yourself? "The order of operations isn't technically wrong... it's morally wrong because it turns humans into robots" The video is basically ecouraging people to understand the basis of mathematics instead of memorizing garbage like PEMDAS. Which brings me back to my original point, the order of operations is a law in mathematics, and just because people don't know it correctly doesn't mean it's wrong. #320 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] Well... the problem I am pointing out is the fact that it can be misleading if it is written an awkward way (as he pointed out in the video). So can I ask you a question. Did you watch the video? If you did, why are you arguing over a point I already explained why I am right. even by using your own source. #333 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] oh. and if you haven't noticed. I have stated that I do think that the answer is 9. But the thing I am arguing is the same thing as arguing for why to have proper grammar in languages. Because it makes it easier for everyone to understand. Education or not. So please. Stop your bitching. #338 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] If you want to use proper grammar as an example for dumbing down this question for people, then you might as well ask all textbooks and literature to be written at a first grade level because people might not understand it otherwise. I like how you claim "that I do think that the answer is 9", yet your original comment stated "It technically could be both depending on how you do PEMDAS". That definitely doesn't state that there's only one answer, that states that it could be both. #341 
actinglead (08/10/2013) [] I did mention the word "technically" which means in a base, simple form, there is one answer. But if looked into a deeper level. it might be able to be something else as well... and it is not trying to "dumb it down", but trying to make it easier so we can get through the problem quicker. A tool which is easy in our fast pace world. And if you pardon me, I must be heading towards my campus because some of us actually care about education over arguing over silly manners and ignoring proof. #349 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] You also give an example in the end of your original reply showing that "technicality" and giving people a wrong answer. Nowhere in there did you say that the first "more parenthesis" example you showed was the correct way to solve it. Also it's over 8 PM in my timezone, on a Saturday, so you can take your high and mighty attitude to your campus, but I have a full time job allowing me to spend my weekend evenings doing whatever I want.  
#298  Forget your silly grade school phonetics and learn correct mat…  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#278  Think of multiplication and division the same way as you would…  08/10/2013 on Math  +2 
#272  You do electric calculations, and you don't know basic math? M… [+] (2 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  +1 
#277 
bizzar (08/10/2013) [] Thanks, seems like teachers I had never put effort to learn me or anybody I know that, They`ve allways said multiplication first, but never that division is first if in order. And luckily for me I am just a regular electrician apprentice, that works with Fuseboxes, switches, lights and sockets, so I have max and min requirements for that  
#270  That's why some people are right and some people are wrong. [+] (1 new reply)  08/10/2013 on Math  +1 
#283 
Blasphemer (08/10/2013) [] If there are no parenthesis the right of the left side is in order, thus there is only one answer. 6 / 2(1+2) 3(1+2) 3+6=9 Or: 6 / 2(1+2) 6 / 2 * 3 3 * 3=9 Where still, left side goes first.  
#269  k bro, so you're smarter than everyone that made a calculator,…  08/10/2013 on Math  +1 
#265  So please enlighten me, along with proof (such as a calculator… [+] (2 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  +1 
#269 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] k bro, so you're smarter than everyone that made a calculator, and google, and rest of the internet. So lets go through it again 6 / 2 (1 + 2) calculations inside the parenthesis first, so... 6 / 2 (3) Which is now the same thing as... 6 / 2 * 3 division and multiplication have the same order of operations, and since division in this question comes first it is done first, so... 3 * 3 = 9 So please enlighten me how it can be done any different way that will give you a different result.  
#262  Every problem that has more than one way to solve it still onl… [+] (4 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#269 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] k bro, so you're smarter than everyone that made a calculator, and google, and rest of the internet. So lets go through it again 6 / 2 (1 + 2) calculations inside the parenthesis first, so... 6 / 2 (3) Which is now the same thing as... 6 / 2 * 3 division and multiplication have the same order of operations, and since division in this question comes first it is done first, so... 3 * 3 = 9 So please enlighten me how it can be done any different way that will give you a different result.  
#259  There's no "depends on how you do it" in math. [+] (7 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  +1 
#269 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] k bro, so you're smarter than everyone that made a calculator, and google, and rest of the internet. So lets go through it again 6 / 2 (1 + 2) calculations inside the parenthesis first, so... 6 / 2 (3) Which is now the same thing as... 6 / 2 * 3 division and multiplication have the same order of operations, and since division in this question comes first it is done first, so... 3 * 3 = 9 So please enlighten me how it can be done any different way that will give you a different result.  
#250  WTF are you talking about. Did you pay any attention in class … [+] (1 new reply)  08/10/2013 on Math  0 
#331 
euphamatical (08/10/2013) [] What the problem is in my head (and I imagine many others), I can't remember whether the 2 counts as part of the brackets or not. I'm sure I was told it works that way at some point in my schooling.  
#248  People's stupidity makes my head hurt, Please, oh please, next… [+] (9 new replies)  08/10/2013 on Math  1 
#269 
fpsnoob (08/10/2013) [] k bro, so you're smarter than everyone that made a calculator, and google, and rest of the internet. So lets go through it again 6 / 2 (1 + 2) calculations inside the parenthesis first, so... 6 / 2 (3) Which is now the same thing as... 6 / 2 * 3 division and multiplication have the same order of operations, and since division in this question comes first it is done first, so... 3 * 3 = 9 So please enlighten me how it can be done any different way that will give you a different result.  
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drainbramage (08/08/2013) [] I don't think he did, I remember reading that someone had saved up money for a long time and was outraged that it was for nothing.  
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#115  I hope they put them through equal requirements as men too. Do…  08/07/2013 on Equality  +6 
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