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#34 - wow a semi automatic assault rifle? did it come with baby seek… 07/10/2014 on Thanks Amazon 0
#299 - i think youre missing a lot of points buddy. its becoming obvi…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/02/2014 on terrible +1
#300 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
Because I am a student? Ass
#298 - yes dude. you hypotheitcally still made 850 dollars. what are …  [+] (17 new replies) 05/02/2014 on terrible 0
#301 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
at 15% of 1000, yes that is true, but this represents awesome tax code and a good week, realistically, many are makig about 300-400 a week, and taxes are close to 30% in some states
#303 - jonodillieono (05/02/2014) [-]
So they're only getting taxed 300-400 a week at 30%... leaving you with 210-280

You can't get taxed 30% of a 1000 if you don't earn 1000, you only get taxed what you earn
#305 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
again, arbitrary numbers

define arbitrary-
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system

Cause clearly uou arent getting what arbitrary means

Also yes if you loos between 80 to 120 in tax, that will come out of your paycheck, on top of the taxation on hourly pay...if you are paid between 2.50 and 4.50 an hour, your check will be negligible if any.
#310 - jonodillieono (05/03/2014) [-]
Fuck off, it doesn't matter what arbitrary number you give me, at the end of tax you're still going to be in positive.
(1-s)t+(1-x)y=total income

s= tax in decimal form, t = paycheck, x= tax in decimal form, y=tips

t and y must be greater than 0 just for obvious reasons that you don't pay to go to work, s and x must be greater or equal to 0 but less than 1. There we go without any arbitrary numbers proof that your income is always greater than 0


now since you like arbitrary so much lets use some arbitrary numbers, tax = 10% (0.1), you earn 5 an hour and work 20 hours a week, you make 500 tips



(1-0.1)(5x20)+(1-0.1)(500)= 0.9(100)+0.9(500)=90+450=540. oh look your income is greater than 0, try it with any numbers and you'll see that you will always have a positive income
#311 - gilfhunter (05/03/2014) [-]
I dont think I ever said we are losing money, way to misrepresent the argument. All I can say (because you clearly are missing my point) is that if you ever worked for tips, you would change your tune real quick.

I guess what I am trying to say is, tipped workers, their tip IS their income. In many places their check exists purely for taxation. So when you stiff someone, it actually hurts them.
#313 - jonodillieono (05/04/2014) [-]
nah, they have to get minimum wage even without tips, if nobody tips them the entire time they still get minimum wage.

If you have a problem getting paid minimum wage perhaps you shouldn't of took a minimum wage job.

"boo hoo I can't live on minimum wage" I don't see you tipping other jobs who earn minimum wage so why is being a waiter an exception
#314 - gilfhunter (05/05/2014) [-]
Well, you know, when jobs college students are qualified for make more than minimum wage, I would definitely do it. But alas, they do not really exist in my city

I really wish I had your luck. Maybe then I would not have a problem looking down on people...

Waiters bust their ass to make sure your every need is cared for. Drivers drive their personal cars dealing with asshole drivers, shitty weather and inept managers, all while putting considerably more miles on their vehicles than most others will (I put over 25,000 miles on my blazer from March to December of last year) So yes, even if I wasnt relying on tips for my income, I would still understand the reason why we do it, because if you ever spent one day working as a server, driver, skycap, cab driver, etc etc, you would quickly realize it is a shit job that is not worth minimum wage, and if tipping wasnt customary, no one would do it. At all. Think about that next time you call out for pizza.
#317 - jonodillieono (05/07/2014) [-]
I'm English, is college the equivalent of University or High School? If you have a degree then surely you're qualified for more than a minimum wage job...

I've never had a job I'm currently at University, I don't look down at people doing minimum wage jobs as someone has to do them. I look down at people expecting a bonus for doing their basic job description. That's all a tip is, a bonus. You know exactly what wage you're meant to be getting a week/month and you agreed to that, anything over this amount should not be expected. However if you're going above and beyond your job description and the customer is extremely happy by it then they should tip

Same goes for a janitor, do you ever walk down a hallway and think "boy this floor looks clean I think I'll tip the janitor"? no you don't.

I'm not against tipping at all, I just find it stupid that people think they are entitled to bonus pay just for doing their job normally.

Work shit - get fired
Work normally - get paid normally
Work hard - get a bonus

That's how it should be in every job
#318 - gilfhunter (05/07/2014) [-]
College is American English equivalent for University.

We agree to lower wages because in our employment contracts, it states tips are a part of our wage.

My job "normally" entails me putting my life and my vehicle at risk. A tip is not an entitlement, but it makes sense you have a different view of tipping. See, your country actually pays a livable minimum wage. And no one would ever do these jobs for 7.25 USD an hour. (UK-19,872 vs 15,080 annual wage)

I do not have a degree, but am pursuing one. Regardless of qualification, there are still many college grads who are still only able to find work as servers or drivers

Comparing the wage of a waiter to a janitor is not a good comparison. The median pay for one is 25k a year in the US, nearly twice that in the UK. So he doesnt have to rely on tips.
#319 - jonodillieono (05/07/2014) [-]
You signed the contract, if you wasn't happy with it you shouldn't of signed it

It's not the customers fault you agreed to a shit paying job, it shouldn't be expected that they give you money for nothing (you're already being paid for being a waiter/delivery driver so serving or delivering pizza to them isn't doing them a favour as it's your job)

It's kind of similar to walking down a street and seeing a homeless person asking for money, sure it's nice to give it to them since they need it but nobody should be expected to give it to them.

People know how badly paid being a waiter/delivery driver is and if they want to help you with some money they will but they shouldn't be made out to be a villain if they don't
#326 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 325

You really dont get it do you. Hidden charges are all apart of our paying culture. A uhaul advertises that you can rent it for 19.99, but the only way you get that cost is if you rent it and just stare at it in the parking lot. Sales Tax? Another hidden charge (because my country apparently has not figured out that you can, if fact, put that sales tax and factor it into the cost) Tipping is another "hidden charge" but luckily for cheap bastards and those who want to let servers know how bad they did, you dont have to pay it. I have no problem with the tipping system, and tipping tends to work different for drivers. I usually know that I am going to get between two and four dollars for my delivery, and I am okay with that. Servers actually can loose their tip for doing shitty, and that is okay too. You are right, tipping should be for good service, but me, personally, I am a tipped worker, and every one of my friends either are, or have been, one. So for me, unless the person comes out and takes a shit on my plate, or I can clearly tell we arent being served (being the only one in the restaurant yet my cup is dry) I will tip, and tip well. That is the culture I grew up with, and I wont try to convince you of its superiority, nor will I accept someone trying to convince me of its inferiority. We live in different countries with different customs. But that contract you continuously like to tout that I signed stated tips were my wage. Every server has a similar contract.
#324 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 323

Again, I am a university student, in a country with a broken minimum wage system, so that is not an option.
#325 - jonodillieono (05/10/2014) [-]
Blame the country not the customer, they shouldn't have to pay more just because you signed a contract you're unhappy with
#322 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 321 (it wont let me reply for some reason)

That contract I signed stated TIPS were my wage, and I work in a state that does not recognize the difference betweened tipped and non tipped workers. Feeling I should make enough money to survive without government assistance is not entitlement,
#323 - jonodillieono (05/10/2014) [-]
Shouldn't of signed the contact then and went somewhere else where you'd get paid better
#320 - gilfhunter (05/07/2014) [-]
You know what, until you have a job, I am not going to listen to your opinion.
#321 - jonodillieono (05/09/2014) [-]
You won't listen to it even then as you feel as though your entitled to more money than the contact you signed
#64 - dont stop be lee, ving=dont stop believing hold on to that…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/01/2014 on 4chan gold +2
#67 - therealslimjim (05/01/2014) [-]
Now I get it.
#272 - so you still made 850 after taxes  [+] (19 new replies) 05/01/2014 on terrible 0
#291 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
again...ARBITRARY NUMBER....god do any of you fucks read, or only read what supports your statement...
#298 - firereadyaim (05/02/2014) [-]
yes dude. you hypotheitcally still made 850 dollars. what are you not getting here? a zero on your pay check means you made enough in tips that the taxes were equall to your entire paycheck. you still keep the tips, they dont just disapear
#301 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
at 15% of 1000, yes that is true, but this represents awesome tax code and a good week, realistically, many are makig about 300-400 a week, and taxes are close to 30% in some states
#303 - jonodillieono (05/02/2014) [-]
So they're only getting taxed 300-400 a week at 30%... leaving you with 210-280

You can't get taxed 30% of a 1000 if you don't earn 1000, you only get taxed what you earn
#305 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
again, arbitrary numbers

define arbitrary-
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system

Cause clearly uou arent getting what arbitrary means

Also yes if you loos between 80 to 120 in tax, that will come out of your paycheck, on top of the taxation on hourly pay...if you are paid between 2.50 and 4.50 an hour, your check will be negligible if any.
#310 - jonodillieono (05/03/2014) [-]
Fuck off, it doesn't matter what arbitrary number you give me, at the end of tax you're still going to be in positive.
(1-s)t+(1-x)y=total income

s= tax in decimal form, t = paycheck, x= tax in decimal form, y=tips

t and y must be greater than 0 just for obvious reasons that you don't pay to go to work, s and x must be greater or equal to 0 but less than 1. There we go without any arbitrary numbers proof that your income is always greater than 0


now since you like arbitrary so much lets use some arbitrary numbers, tax = 10% (0.1), you earn 5 an hour and work 20 hours a week, you make 500 tips



(1-0.1)(5x20)+(1-0.1)(500)= 0.9(100)+0.9(500)=90+450=540. oh look your income is greater than 0, try it with any numbers and you'll see that you will always have a positive income
#311 - gilfhunter (05/03/2014) [-]
I dont think I ever said we are losing money, way to misrepresent the argument. All I can say (because you clearly are missing my point) is that if you ever worked for tips, you would change your tune real quick.

I guess what I am trying to say is, tipped workers, their tip IS their income. In many places their check exists purely for taxation. So when you stiff someone, it actually hurts them.
#313 - jonodillieono (05/04/2014) [-]
nah, they have to get minimum wage even without tips, if nobody tips them the entire time they still get minimum wage.

If you have a problem getting paid minimum wage perhaps you shouldn't of took a minimum wage job.

"boo hoo I can't live on minimum wage" I don't see you tipping other jobs who earn minimum wage so why is being a waiter an exception
#314 - gilfhunter (05/05/2014) [-]
Well, you know, when jobs college students are qualified for make more than minimum wage, I would definitely do it. But alas, they do not really exist in my city

I really wish I had your luck. Maybe then I would not have a problem looking down on people...

Waiters bust their ass to make sure your every need is cared for. Drivers drive their personal cars dealing with asshole drivers, shitty weather and inept managers, all while putting considerably more miles on their vehicles than most others will (I put over 25,000 miles on my blazer from March to December of last year) So yes, even if I wasnt relying on tips for my income, I would still understand the reason why we do it, because if you ever spent one day working as a server, driver, skycap, cab driver, etc etc, you would quickly realize it is a shit job that is not worth minimum wage, and if tipping wasnt customary, no one would do it. At all. Think about that next time you call out for pizza.
#317 - jonodillieono (05/07/2014) [-]
I'm English, is college the equivalent of University or High School? If you have a degree then surely you're qualified for more than a minimum wage job...

I've never had a job I'm currently at University, I don't look down at people doing minimum wage jobs as someone has to do them. I look down at people expecting a bonus for doing their basic job description. That's all a tip is, a bonus. You know exactly what wage you're meant to be getting a week/month and you agreed to that, anything over this amount should not be expected. However if you're going above and beyond your job description and the customer is extremely happy by it then they should tip

Same goes for a janitor, do you ever walk down a hallway and think "boy this floor looks clean I think I'll tip the janitor"? no you don't.

I'm not against tipping at all, I just find it stupid that people think they are entitled to bonus pay just for doing their job normally.

Work shit - get fired
Work normally - get paid normally
Work hard - get a bonus

That's how it should be in every job
#318 - gilfhunter (05/07/2014) [-]
College is American English equivalent for University.

We agree to lower wages because in our employment contracts, it states tips are a part of our wage.

My job "normally" entails me putting my life and my vehicle at risk. A tip is not an entitlement, but it makes sense you have a different view of tipping. See, your country actually pays a livable minimum wage. And no one would ever do these jobs for 7.25 USD an hour. (UK-19,872 vs 15,080 annual wage)

I do not have a degree, but am pursuing one. Regardless of qualification, there are still many college grads who are still only able to find work as servers or drivers

Comparing the wage of a waiter to a janitor is not a good comparison. The median pay for one is 25k a year in the US, nearly twice that in the UK. So he doesnt have to rely on tips.
#319 - jonodillieono (05/07/2014) [-]
You signed the contract, if you wasn't happy with it you shouldn't of signed it

It's not the customers fault you agreed to a shit paying job, it shouldn't be expected that they give you money for nothing (you're already being paid for being a waiter/delivery driver so serving or delivering pizza to them isn't doing them a favour as it's your job)

It's kind of similar to walking down a street and seeing a homeless person asking for money, sure it's nice to give it to them since they need it but nobody should be expected to give it to them.

People know how badly paid being a waiter/delivery driver is and if they want to help you with some money they will but they shouldn't be made out to be a villain if they don't
#326 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 325

You really dont get it do you. Hidden charges are all apart of our paying culture. A uhaul advertises that you can rent it for 19.99, but the only way you get that cost is if you rent it and just stare at it in the parking lot. Sales Tax? Another hidden charge (because my country apparently has not figured out that you can, if fact, put that sales tax and factor it into the cost) Tipping is another "hidden charge" but luckily for cheap bastards and those who want to let servers know how bad they did, you dont have to pay it. I have no problem with the tipping system, and tipping tends to work different for drivers. I usually know that I am going to get between two and four dollars for my delivery, and I am okay with that. Servers actually can loose their tip for doing shitty, and that is okay too. You are right, tipping should be for good service, but me, personally, I am a tipped worker, and every one of my friends either are, or have been, one. So for me, unless the person comes out and takes a shit on my plate, or I can clearly tell we arent being served (being the only one in the restaurant yet my cup is dry) I will tip, and tip well. That is the culture I grew up with, and I wont try to convince you of its superiority, nor will I accept someone trying to convince me of its inferiority. We live in different countries with different customs. But that contract you continuously like to tout that I signed stated tips were my wage. Every server has a similar contract.
#324 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 323

Again, I am a university student, in a country with a broken minimum wage system, so that is not an option.
#325 - jonodillieono (05/10/2014) [-]
Blame the country not the customer, they shouldn't have to pay more just because you signed a contract you're unhappy with
#322 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 321 (it wont let me reply for some reason)

That contract I signed stated TIPS were my wage, and I work in a state that does not recognize the difference betweened tipped and non tipped workers. Feeling I should make enough money to survive without government assistance is not entitlement,
#323 - jonodillieono (05/10/2014) [-]
Shouldn't of signed the contact then and went somewhere else where you'd get paid better
#320 - gilfhunter (05/07/2014) [-]
You know what, until you have a job, I am not going to listen to your opinion.
#321 - jonodillieono (05/09/2014) [-]
You won't listen to it even then as you feel as though your entitled to more money than the contact you signed
#269 - i think you misread that 05/01/2014 on terrible 0
#126 - so the dude straight up just said hey don't bring black people… 05/01/2014 on MIA 0
#142 - heres a fun fact, if they don't get enough tips to at least ma…  [+] (40 new replies) 05/01/2014 on terrible +10
#159 - robuntu (05/01/2014) [-]
It pisses me off that so few people know this. +1 for you!

Waitstaff always make minimum wage or more. If they don't - they employer is breaking the law!
#169 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
In Canada and Europe this is the case. In roughly 20 states, the minimum wage for tipped staff is between 2.75-5.00$ an hour, lower than the actual minimum wage because they get tips. So in many places, they depend on the tips to even get minimum.
#174 - robuntu (05/01/2014) [-]
No, no, no, no. That's wrong! 100% wrong.

There is a Federal Minimum Wage in the United States. Everyone gets paid the minimum wage or more. Waitstaff/tipped employees included:

"If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
#183 - fourtwentymaki (05/01/2014) [-]
you are retarded sir. american laws arn't universal. he was talking about Canada and Europe, of which he did get his facts right. they are usually paid under minimum because of the tips
#269 - firereadyaim (05/01/2014) [-]
i think you misread that
#156 - infinitesinz (05/01/2014) [-]
At my job we were fired if we constantly didn't make enough tips to cover minimum.
#146 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
The hourly wage is below minimum wage, and after taxes often equals zero.
#147 - jonodillieono (05/01/2014) [-]
Taxes are a percentage

unless there's a 100% income tax then it is literally impossible to be left with zero after taxes.



Also they accepted the job offer of under minimum wage, they knew they'd be earning that so don't act like they're getting ripped off, it's exactly what they agreed to
#152 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
Their are different types of incomes. Salary, Hourly, Commission, and Tips. (I am sure I am forgetting some others but these are the main ones) A tip is a type of income. So when you decide not to tip, you may be taking food out of their hands. You may be taking gas out of their tank. You dont know their situation, so do presume to. Tip wages are shitty, I worked for them for a year as a driver at pizza hut, but do not punish the person for the shitty system. Tips are the only reason anyone does a job like serving or driving. Because unlike being a cashier, you do have to go above and beyond for multiple people (as a server. I wont try to justify a driver to you) If we did away with tips, no one would work that job becuase it is fairly shitty, and I would rather go work as a cashier and not have much expected of me for that wage.
#148 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
Tips are taxable, so yes, it is a percentage, but if you dont pay directly out of your tips, then your tax for that tip comes OUT OF YOUR CHECK. So you will have checks that read ZERO.
#151 - jonodillieono (05/01/2014) [-]
a percentage (<100%) of any positive number is still a positive number. No matter how much they earn they will still have money left after tax (unless they restaurant is paying them 0$ an hour)
#154 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
TIPS are still taxable (yes at a percentage. But if you make 1000 a week in tips (arbitrary number) and that percentage comes to say, 150 (income, fica, etc etc) and you only made 150 for your hourly wage...guess what you arent getting on your check.
#272 - firereadyaim (05/01/2014) [-]
so you still made 850 after taxes
#291 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
again...ARBITRARY NUMBER....god do any of you fucks read, or only read what supports your statement...
#298 - firereadyaim (05/02/2014) [-]
yes dude. you hypotheitcally still made 850 dollars. what are you not getting here? a zero on your pay check means you made enough in tips that the taxes were equall to your entire paycheck. you still keep the tips, they dont just disapear
#301 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
at 15% of 1000, yes that is true, but this represents awesome tax code and a good week, realistically, many are makig about 300-400 a week, and taxes are close to 30% in some states
#303 - jonodillieono (05/02/2014) [-]
So they're only getting taxed 300-400 a week at 30%... leaving you with 210-280

You can't get taxed 30% of a 1000 if you don't earn 1000, you only get taxed what you earn
#305 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
again, arbitrary numbers

define arbitrary-
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system

Cause clearly uou arent getting what arbitrary means

Also yes if you loos between 80 to 120 in tax, that will come out of your paycheck, on top of the taxation on hourly pay...if you are paid between 2.50 and 4.50 an hour, your check will be negligible if any.
#310 - jonodillieono (05/03/2014) [-]
Fuck off, it doesn't matter what arbitrary number you give me, at the end of tax you're still going to be in positive.
(1-s)t+(1-x)y=total income

s= tax in decimal form, t = paycheck, x= tax in decimal form, y=tips

t and y must be greater than 0 just for obvious reasons that you don't pay to go to work, s and x must be greater or equal to 0 but less than 1. There we go without any arbitrary numbers proof that your income is always greater than 0


now since you like arbitrary so much lets use some arbitrary numbers, tax = 10% (0.1), you earn 5 an hour and work 20 hours a week, you make 500 tips



(1-0.1)(5x20)+(1-0.1)(500)= 0.9(100)+0.9(500)=90+450=540. oh look your income is greater than 0, try it with any numbers and you'll see that you will always have a positive income
#311 - gilfhunter (05/03/2014) [-]
I dont think I ever said we are losing money, way to misrepresent the argument. All I can say (because you clearly are missing my point) is that if you ever worked for tips, you would change your tune real quick.

I guess what I am trying to say is, tipped workers, their tip IS their income. In many places their check exists purely for taxation. So when you stiff someone, it actually hurts them.
#313 - jonodillieono (05/04/2014) [-]
nah, they have to get minimum wage even without tips, if nobody tips them the entire time they still get minimum wage.

If you have a problem getting paid minimum wage perhaps you shouldn't of took a minimum wage job.

"boo hoo I can't live on minimum wage" I don't see you tipping other jobs who earn minimum wage so why is being a waiter an exception
#314 - gilfhunter (05/05/2014) [-]
Well, you know, when jobs college students are qualified for make more than minimum wage, I would definitely do it. But alas, they do not really exist in my city

I really wish I had your luck. Maybe then I would not have a problem looking down on people...

Waiters bust their ass to make sure your every need is cared for. Drivers drive their personal cars dealing with asshole drivers, shitty weather and inept managers, all while putting considerably more miles on their vehicles than most others will (I put over 25,000 miles on my blazer from March to December of last year) So yes, even if I wasnt relying on tips for my income, I would still understand the reason why we do it, because if you ever spent one day working as a server, driver, skycap, cab driver, etc etc, you would quickly realize it is a shit job that is not worth minimum wage, and if tipping wasnt customary, no one would do it. At all. Think about that next time you call out for pizza.
#317 - jonodillieono (05/07/2014) [-]
I'm English, is college the equivalent of University or High School? If you have a degree then surely you're qualified for more than a minimum wage job...

I've never had a job I'm currently at University, I don't look down at people doing minimum wage jobs as someone has to do them. I look down at people expecting a bonus for doing their basic job description. That's all a tip is, a bonus. You know exactly what wage you're meant to be getting a week/month and you agreed to that, anything over this amount should not be expected. However if you're going above and beyond your job description and the customer is extremely happy by it then they should tip

Same goes for a janitor, do you ever walk down a hallway and think "boy this floor looks clean I think I'll tip the janitor"? no you don't.

I'm not against tipping at all, I just find it stupid that people think they are entitled to bonus pay just for doing their job normally.

Work shit - get fired
Work normally - get paid normally
Work hard - get a bonus

That's how it should be in every job
#318 - gilfhunter (05/07/2014) [-]
College is American English equivalent for University.

We agree to lower wages because in our employment contracts, it states tips are a part of our wage.

My job "normally" entails me putting my life and my vehicle at risk. A tip is not an entitlement, but it makes sense you have a different view of tipping. See, your country actually pays a livable minimum wage. And no one would ever do these jobs for 7.25 USD an hour. (UK-19,872 vs 15,080 annual wage)

I do not have a degree, but am pursuing one. Regardless of qualification, there are still many college grads who are still only able to find work as servers or drivers

Comparing the wage of a waiter to a janitor is not a good comparison. The median pay for one is 25k a year in the US, nearly twice that in the UK. So he doesnt have to rely on tips.
#319 - jonodillieono (05/07/2014) [-]
You signed the contract, if you wasn't happy with it you shouldn't of signed it

It's not the customers fault you agreed to a shit paying job, it shouldn't be expected that they give you money for nothing (you're already being paid for being a waiter/delivery driver so serving or delivering pizza to them isn't doing them a favour as it's your job)

It's kind of similar to walking down a street and seeing a homeless person asking for money, sure it's nice to give it to them since they need it but nobody should be expected to give it to them.

People know how badly paid being a waiter/delivery driver is and if they want to help you with some money they will but they shouldn't be made out to be a villain if they don't
#326 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
Reply to 325

You really dont get it do you. Hidden charges are all apart of our paying culture. A uhaul advertises that you can rent it for 19.99, but the only way you get that cost is if you rent it and just stare at it in the parking lot. Sales Tax? Another hidden charge (because my country apparently has not figured out that you can, if fact, put that sales tax and factor it into the cost) Tipping is another "hidden charge" but luckily for cheap bastards and those who want to let servers know how bad they did, you dont have to pay it. I have no problem with the tipping system, and tipping tends to work different for drivers. I usually know that I am going to get between two and four dollars for my delivery, and I am okay with that. Servers actually can loose their tip for doing shitty, and that is okay too. You are right, tipping should be for good service, but me, personally, I am a tipped worker, and every one of my friends either are, or have been, one. So for me, unless the person comes out and takes a shit on my plate, or I can clearly tell we arent being served (being the only one in the restaurant yet my cup is dry) I will tip, and tip well. That is the culture I grew up with, and I wont try to convince you of its superiority, nor will I accept someone trying to convince me of its inferiority. We live in different countries with different customs. But that contract you continuously like to tout that I signed stated tips were my wage. Every server has a similar contract.
#324 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
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Again, I am a university student, in a country with a broken minimum wage system, so that is not an option.
#325 - jonodillieono (05/10/2014) [-]
Blame the country not the customer, they shouldn't have to pay more just because you signed a contract you're unhappy with
#322 - gilfhunter (05/10/2014) [-]
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That contract I signed stated TIPS were my wage, and I work in a state that does not recognize the difference betweened tipped and non tipped workers. Feeling I should make enough money to survive without government assistance is not entitlement,
#323 - jonodillieono (05/10/2014) [-]
Shouldn't of signed the contact then and went somewhere else where you'd get paid better
#320 - gilfhunter (05/07/2014) [-]
You know what, until you have a job, I am not going to listen to your opinion.
#321 - jonodillieono (05/09/2014) [-]
You won't listen to it even then as you feel as though your entitled to more money than the contact you signed
#161 - robuntu (05/01/2014) [-]
Sure - but you still made 1000.

Everyone has to pay taxes. It doesn't matter if you get paid hourly or in tips - your annual income determines how much income tax you pay. When you file at the end of the year you will either get a refund or owe money, however it works out.

The percent you pay is based on how much you earn and how many deductions you have. The less money you get in, the lower % you pay. Minimum wage workers pay less tax than anyone else and are more likely to qualify for government benefits/social programs.
#163 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
The 1000 was an arbitrary number (most people, in fact a great majority of them, do not. I deliver piping hot pizza to your door...I make less than 200 a week), So I think you missed the point.

I understand taxes, I have been in the labor force near five years now. But you are again, missing the entire point. The point is not against taxation, I have no problem with that, I am only explaining that their "hourly wage"often times means shit. And if we did away with tipping and just paid them minimum wage or a little over, then no one will want to do that job. Because the people who are qualified for that can go really anywhere else (fast food, Walmart, Target, etc). I have never personally served, I would never really want to. Sure you can make alot, but often that only happens after working a 12 hour day.

Also, government assistance? Really? Are you so against tipping, but would rather your tax dollars instead to go to these people?

Its really simple, if you dont like to tip, dont go out. That is part of our culture. Sure its a shitty system (for those who have never been in restaurant business) a great system (for those who are) but that is the system we live in. If you dont like it, dont punish the server.
#299 - firereadyaim (05/02/2014) [-]
i think youre missing a lot of points buddy. its becoming obvious why youre delivering pizzas for a living
#300 - gilfhunter (05/02/2014) [-]
Because I am a student? Ass
#171 - robuntu (05/01/2014) [-]
Their hourly wage doesn't mean shit. Money is money. They get paid an hourly base + tips and they always make, at least, minimum wage.

If someone makes a lot of cash tips, yes, they could have a pay check that has a zero balance. But that doesn't mean they didn't get paid. It just means they have to pay taxes, like everyone else. They should be setting aside a portion of their tips for taxes. That's part of being an employed person.

I'm not against tipping. I'm not for tipping. I'm not against social welfare programs. I'm not for social welfare programs. I'm just explaining the system as it is, in the US.

Waitstaff never legally earn less than minimum wage.
Tips considered income the same as an hourly wage and are taxed at the same rate. The only difference is in how and when the taxes are collected. It's all the same.

Nobody ever pays a 100% tax rate. Nobody in the US even pays close to a 100% tax rate - certainly not minimum and near-minimum wage workers who pay a lot less than typical 'good jobs' that pay $20-$50 an hour.
#208 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
because I am not sure if y ou have noticed, minimum wage is not a livable wage.
#205 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
Strawman- No one ever pays 100% tax

I never said they did, I am saying it is perfectly inside the realm of posiblity to have no money on your check, while making barely enough to get by.

No server job is worth 9 an hour, and yet no restaurant will pay more than that. If you ever worked as a server maybe you would change your tune, real quick
#155 - gilfhunter (05/01/2014) [-]
all of those are of course, arbitrary numbers
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