loyalty born of fear is not real loyalty.

ask my neighbor.
she is a old lady who lived through both world wars in germany.
when you ask her about nazi germany, her expression gets dark,
and she only refers to it as 'the bad times'.
she could tell you shit that would make your retarded toenails curl.
the people back then got excited about hitlers ideas, and realised too late that they had allowed a tyrannical dictatorship to rise.
noone enjoyed it but the nazi elite. noone.
everyone who wishes for a regime like that to rule, hasn't experienced it first hand, simple as that.
but if you really wanna try out living in a totalitarian state, i hear north korea is quite welcoming.

The thing with nazi germani was that they killed such an amount of people in a short time instead of spreading out their genocide much like america does. US an A litterally genocided 2 million vietnamese and houndreds of thousend japanese and then they bombed german cities, killing another houndred of thousend of germans after hitler gave up and killed himself. With their help of brittish bombers.

Personally, i cant see a good side of world war two because the allies where a buch of imperals and communists who loved genocide. And the winner always writes the history.

"The largest human catastrophe of Stalinism was the famine of 1930–1933, in which more than five million people died." ~Nybooks (2011)
www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/

Soviet Union: 7,420,000 to 9,584,000 civilian deaths due to military activity and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.~wikipedia

Germany: 4,440,000 to 5,318,000 civilian deaths due to military activity and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.~wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

There are two sides of the story. I myself live in The Netherlands. Which means I related to people that have been taken to deathcamps hold alot of grudge against Germany. Yet I don't fail to realise that communism and especialy Stalin was a monster in his own right. You as a fedora wearing gentleman should know this since the arguement for atheism has always been "But Stalin wasn't religieus and he killed more people +1 christiany".

The good side is crystal clear. People who value life all together. Over simple trival things such as nationalism. Simple hatred against a group caused this amount of pain and misery. Now we're doomed to repeat history. We've got 2 wars going on at the same time. The gender war, and race war. And both groups make their parties look disgusting. For the race war we'll be looking at barbaric medievil enslavement. And at the gender war a reduction of 333.000.000.000 human lives. Why? because we're born with a penis. 50% of the world population is male. Radical feminists want to reduce men to 10% of the world population. 7.4 billion people x 50% x 90% and you've got about 100 million of us left. It gets scary'er and closer day by day. The amount of race war victims/warriors in germany keeps stacking up in europe. And the day Hilary "women are the primary victims of war" Clinton will ensure the male genocide.

We're doomed to repeat ourselves. Just remember the victims of the genocides and honor their existance, ripped from them early because of politics. Then look at the message we're recieving. That's the opressor.

I don't know anymore. Food for thought and just wanted to let you know that the Russians were called monsters aswell. It was known around europe that Nazi's would kill themselves before the Russians could get to them. If only we could just live together. But dangerous ideologies just keep mixing salt in open wounds over, and over, and over, and over again. Merkel is no exception. And neither were the World Wars.

"I'd rather die standing than live on my knees"~Charlie Hebdo

AS a swede, i relate to the nazi symphatizers because we sold a heckload of weapons to nazi germany and thanks to those money we could be the richest country in the world.

The Nazis weren't really traditionalists, they had what was considered even then to have a very esoteric philosophy that mixed mysticism and even the occult with real-world politics, inspired by reactionary figures like Julius Evola. They didn't really care about German culture and replaced it with their own fetishism. It is very important to question what you have been told like such, but the truth about how Nazi Germany was run is honestly a lot dumber than common perception would depict; they weren't even a very efficient state, and in fact were greatly held back by the flaws inherent in an absolute dictatorship.

However, I wouldn't go as far as to see Europe is doomed, even if what is happening is disastrous. You also don't need to be a nationalist to see the importance of borders from a pragmatic perspective.

Well, Hitlers philosophy of Aryan was flawed from the word go because it came from the era of Genetics only breeding. Back then and even up until the 90's , the prevailing theory was that, every single iota of you was determined by your genes. But now we know that in addition to your genetics, there is an epigenetic layer that determines who you will be.

And even if you were to control for epigenetic factors, the Idea of a Master Race that is superior at every thing isn't supported by any science what so ever. for instance, Africans has the highest muscle density on average controled for epigentic factors of any race.

TL;DR Hitler's ideology was deeply flawed.

well, no shit.
the ideologies from back then make a good read.
my personal favourite being 'welteislehre' ('world ice doctrine').
it was the antithesis to the 'semitic' theory of relativity, and it is quite bonkers.
think DBZ meets game of thrones.

Thanks m8, will look it up with a drink one night.

stoooooooooooooooop
everytime someone mentions the holo caust some wannabe smartass starts that crap

And just like all those threads the evidence is phony. Seriously the Einstatgruppen executed over a million people alone

what are the einstatgruppen

Basically the guys that killed Jews before concentration camps were a thing.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

Einsatzgruppen* sorry I can't spell in German for shit.
And my mistake, it was over 2 million, not over 1 million.

loyalty born of fear is not real loyalty.

This has no relevance here...