You're not going to completely stop it. There are still shootings in countries with gun control. I talked to a guy from Denmark who says that there are still several shootings in his country every year. Canada has had similar shootings. Maybe not dozens, but still there are shootings.

Helping mentally ill people will help prevent them from wanting to go around killing people, so no it is not a completely different issue at all. Every single one of these people was mentally unstable, and people knew they were mentally unstable and did nothing.
"What we can do is remove the tools that allow them to kill people"
So you mean like knives? Baseball bats? Those kinds of things? Because believe it or not there are multiple ways to kill people. You think that someone like the Newton shooter might not have just grabbed a knife and started killing people with that if he couldn't find a gun? Don't be ridiculous

Guns can be used to kill or defend. In fact 70% of people who are shot AREN'T killed. So guns have a less killing rate than you think. And because he knew that guns were the only means the citizen had to defend himself against a military of a corrupt government.

There are far less mass shooting incidents in Switzerland who is the SECOND highest carriers of guns AND they train their people to use them. Yet they have the lowest crime rate. So no, you are absolutely wrong about that.

So you don't think people can use tazers to kill people? You remark about criminals is untrue. The law abiding citizen is who I was referring to. And you act as though criminals aren't going to get their hands on guns anyways. That's ridiculous

I didn't mean tazers, I said that they should manufacture a weapon much like a tazer, without the fatality. And law abiding citizens are capable of becoming mentally ill; or are already mentally ill, and may express this illness by violently acting out on society.
(Every criminal was a child once, most likely mistreated in their childhood. It's not usually their fault that they were born underprivileged or mentally ill.)

Okay, let me set thing straight; I know we can't completely stop it, that's a no-brainer. But we can make it better than it is.
Again, you have said "there are still shootings in countries with gun control." Guess what? Canada sits right on top of gun-bearing America.
And again, I must repeat- mass shootings occur way less often.
Also, I must say, the mentally ill are difficult to find and treat. Many of them come from the underprivileged areas of society and are hard to reach. There are hundreds of millions people mentally ill. Even people considered sane could have mental breakdowns at any given time.
Knives and bats? Another stupid argument. Have you forgotten my wager to let the public have access to weapons that stun and neutralize danger?
Knives and bats are melee weapons. Just like in games, they are never as effective as weapons and semi-automatic weapons. Guns are ranged, and hurl a chunk of searingly hot, poisonous lead at 896 m/s, which shooters are trained to aim, and pierce through vital organs at a shockingly far distance. Knives and bats far more easier to resist and escape. There are hundreds upon hundreds of instances where an individual manages to fight off a knife or some other melee weapon, escaping with only a few minor wounds; with guns, not so much.
Have you read my argument properly? I've said before that we should be using weapons that stun/immobilize instead of fatally wounding.
"Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations; Switzerland thus has one of the highest militia gun ownership rates in the world."

We can make it better than it is by helping the mentally unstable people before they snap.

The US has a population of 311 million. Canada is a tenth of that. Texas has a larger population than Australia. NZ is only 5 million. Norway is also 5 million, and sweden is 9 million. The UK is 60 million, and though it's easier for them to guard their borders than for us they still have an incredibly high violent crime rate, the worse in Europe.
Statistically these shootings happen about even everywhere. Canada addresses the mentally unstable better than the US, but guess what? They're still just as bad. And another thing, people aren't trying to smuggle them into Canada.
www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12/18/canada-gun-laws-mass-shootings-semi-automatic_n_2325843.html
ca.news.yahoo.com/guns-notorious-canadian-mass-shootings-still-not-prohib ited-234352117.html

The mentally ill are difficult to find and treat?!? LMFAO THEY KNEW THE NEWTON SHOOTER WAS MENTALLY UNSTABLE! They knew the VT shooter was unstable. The Arora shooter. They knew these people needed help and did NOTHING

Oh and since I'm actually trained both in gun and knife use, there are advantages that knives have over gun. Another stupid argument? Clearly you've done NO research on this at all
www.top10stop.com/lifestyle/top-10-most-common-murder-weapons
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/06/the_risk_from_guns.html

Really there are these "instances?" Give me the link.

And so there are millions of gun carrying, well trained military people and Switzerland and they don't have nearly as bad instances with guns as their counterparts? Shocking

Norway, Australia, Canada, Sweden, etc. these countries do have a violent crime rate; but this is mostly comprised of the use of melee weapons, in which most cases the victim would come out of hospital alive.
Again, why do you think everyone can see into other people's minds if they were mentally unstable, and all have the time to help them?
You can still agree that a gun can kill much more efficiently than a knife.
(And the Newton gunner had easy access to guns.)
There were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. And 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in Switzerland.
I think I make it pretty clear that comparing melee weapons to guns is a bit stupid; considering the statistics.
I don't need to give a link for those "instances" you just need to learn more about how the mind works; and how under certain circumstances, the brain just can't take it and shits on everything. James Holmes, the guy who shot up the cinema in Colorado, he was seen as a perfectly normal guy, but he had a mental breakdown after problems in his life. Other people wouldn't know of his personal problems and couldn't help him. It's not like they could of foreseen him on a killing spree?

Have you forgotten? "There were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. And 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in Switzerland. "
Ammo for a weapon? You only need a bullet or two, to pierce through their skull and decimate the brain.
You ignorantly protect the knives despite the death toll on firearms.
If there were no firearms involved in 8,583 of the 12,664 murders in the US, 8,583 people would of been alive today, and only 4082 would've died that year.
Stop strongly protecting barbarianism and death.
You say it is difficult to protect America with its high population? Then why pick on China which has 4x the population of America. IF everyone in China had access to guns, more mass shoots would occur because certain people want to kill and guns tend to kill quite efficiently.
I'll refute the rest tomorrow.

Take a shot to the head with a baseball bat and tell me how you chances of getting out alive are. Or taking a knife to a gut. Knives are in fact DEADLIER than guns. They don't jam, they don't need ammo and they are also more likely to kill you than guns are. People just don't use them as much because guns (like you ignorantly displayed) because guns are believed to be easier

James Holmes?
"Some of Holmes' acquaintances suspected prior to the shooting that Holmes suffered from mental illness and could be dangerous. Two weeks before the shooting, he sent a text message asking a graduate student if they had heard of the disorder dysphoric mania, and warning the student to stay away from him "because I am bad news."'
- "Before Gunfire, Hints of 'Bad News'". The New York Times. Archived from the original on October 13, 2012.

Yeah the US has more deaths. Welcome to a country that his almost HALF the population of the ENTIRE continent of Europe. And yet the US STILL has a lower statistic of people killed by guns per capita than UK or Canada.

Comparing the two. No it's not. Consider that I ALREADY SENT YOU THE LINK
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm

Yes, yes people knew that this guy was mentally unfit. The kid in Newton's mother left the guns out, AND SHE KNEW that her own child was mentally unwell. It was her fault that she left them out. And you know that people can STILL mass murder people with knives right?
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/china.attacks/index.html

China has STRICT gun control and this man still killed more students than VT or in Newton. And actually killed and wounded more people in this one school than the entire Aurora shooting, including MORE DEATHS!

Now you forgot the one reason why they even installed this Amendment. To protect people from the government. Now stop calling any argument stupid when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

There are 100 million gun owners in America (legal) that don't shoot people. You act as though a few mentally unfit people going crazy is rational enough to punish law abiding citizens.

People aren't psychics, but what we could do is draw more attention to the real problem; mentally unstable people. That kid in Newton snapped when he found out his mother wanted to send him away. He was unstable and she left them out, unlocked where he could get them. She failed in HER responsibility. But do you think that if that boy had more friends and people who cared for him that he would have done that? Or that they knew the VT shooter was insane and yet took no action? Same with Lockner in Tucson. These are people we know are mentally unwell and yet people have done NOTHING to help them.

Also the FBI reports that 75% of shootings are by repeat offenders, or people we know are criminals. We need to stop being so scared and address the real problem and where it's coming from. Gangs, the Mexican Cartel, criminals are the problem NOT THE CITIZEN. And as Jefferson said, I would rather live in unsafe liberty than safe tyranny.

We have many laws that makes sense now we have to enforce them. It's the apathetic nature of those in charge to take control and address the real problems that are wrong. There were still shootings in Canada, UK, Australia, Norway and several other countries. Switzerland is the second highest civilian population with guns, and yet they have the lowest crime rate.

Tazers aren't that accurate, and yes they provide a safer alternative, but what if you have multiple assailants at the same time? They only focus on one person and one person only. If there are two people then you're shit out of luck

A few mental people= a few more mass murderings.
And you can't expect everyone to be responsible with their firearms.
Helping mentally ill people individually is a completely different issue. Everyone has their own different problems and we can't help everyone. It's too widespread to prevent it.
What we can to, is remove the tools that let them kill people.
Criminals are basically citizens that have broken the law multiple times? And citizens can have mental problems?
From what Jefferson said, how is it tyranny to prevent the access of things that are only used to kill?
Of course you would say there were shootings in Canada, UK, Australia and Norway; but have you realized that these shootings rarely happen or don't happen as often as gun-bearing countries?
When I mentioned tazers, I didn't refer to the ones we have right now. I meant to say that they should be focusing on making weapons that neutralize, instead of fatally wounding people. If someone wants to defend themselves from criminals, they can do so, not by murdering them, but by 'stunning, immobilizing, neutralizing them' through tazering, or some kind of stun gun which people should be researching and manufacturing these weapons, so if these weapons had fallen into the wrong hands, the least the criminals could do is stun people in public, not wound or harm them.

You're not going to completely stop it. There are still shootings in countries with gun control. I talked to a guy from Denmark who says that there are still several shootings in his country every year. Canada has had similar shootings. Maybe not dozens, but still there are shootings.

Helping mentally ill people will help prevent them from wanting to go around killing people, so no it is not a completely different issue at all. Every single one of these people was mentally unstable, and people knew they were mentally unstable and did nothing.
"What we can do is remove the tools that allow them to kill people"
So you mean like knives? Baseball bats? Those kinds of things? Because believe it or not there are multiple ways to kill people. You think that someone like the Newton shooter might not have just grabbed a knife and started killing people with that if he couldn't find a gun? Don't be ridiculous

Guns can be used to kill or defend. In fact 70% of people who are shot AREN'T killed. So guns have a less killing rate than you think. And because he knew that guns were the only means the citizen had to defend himself against a military of a corrupt government.

There are far less mass shooting incidents in Switzerland who is the SECOND highest carriers of guns AND they train their people to use them. Yet they have the lowest crime rate. So no, you are absolutely wrong about that.

So you don't think people can use tazers to kill people? You remark about criminals is untrue. The law abiding citizen is who I was referring to. And you act as though criminals aren't going to get their hands on guns anyways. That's ridiculous

I didn't mean tazers, I said that they should manufacture a weapon much like a tazer, without the fatality. And law abiding citizens are capable of becoming mentally ill; or are already mentally ill, and may express this illness by violently acting out on society.
(Every criminal was a child once, most likely mistreated in their childhood. It's not usually their fault that they were born underprivileged or mentally ill.)

Okay, let me set thing straight; I know we can't completely stop it, that's a no-brainer. But we can make it better than it is.
Again, you have said "there are still shootings in countries with gun control." Guess what? Canada sits right on top of gun-bearing America.
And again, I must repeat- mass shootings occur way less often.
Also, I must say, the mentally ill are difficult to find and treat. Many of them come from the underprivileged areas of society and are hard to reach. There are hundreds of millions people mentally ill. Even people considered sane could have mental breakdowns at any given time.
Knives and bats? Another stupid argument. Have you forgotten my wager to let the public have access to weapons that stun and neutralize danger?
Knives and bats are melee weapons. Just like in games, they are never as effective as weapons and semi-automatic weapons. Guns are ranged, and hurl a chunk of searingly hot, poisonous lead at 896 m/s, which shooters are trained to aim, and pierce through vital organs at a shockingly far distance. Knives and bats far more easier to resist and escape. There are hundreds upon hundreds of instances where an individual manages to fight off a knife or some other melee weapon, escaping with only a few minor wounds; with guns, not so much.
Have you read my argument properly? I've said before that we should be using weapons that stun/immobilize instead of fatally wounding.
"Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations; Switzerland thus has one of the highest militia gun ownership rates in the world."

We can make it better than it is by helping the mentally unstable people before they snap.

The US has a population of 311 million. Canada is a tenth of that. Texas has a larger population than Australia. NZ is only 5 million. Norway is also 5 million, and sweden is 9 million. The UK is 60 million, and though it's easier for them to guard their borders than for us they still have an incredibly high violent crime rate, the worse in Europe.
Statistically these shootings happen about even everywhere. Canada addresses the mentally unstable better than the US, but guess what? They're still just as bad. And another thing, people aren't trying to smuggle them into Canada.
www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12/18/canada-gun-laws-mass-shootings-semi-automatic_n_2325843.html
ca.news.yahoo.com/guns-notorious-canadian-mass-shootings-still-not-prohib ited-234352117.html

The mentally ill are difficult to find and treat?!? LMFAO THEY KNEW THE NEWTON SHOOTER WAS MENTALLY UNSTABLE! They knew the VT shooter was unstable. The Arora shooter. They knew these people needed help and did NOTHING

Oh and since I'm actually trained both in gun and knife use, there are advantages that knives have over gun. Another stupid argument? Clearly you've done NO research on this at all
www.top10stop.com/lifestyle/top-10-most-common-murder-weapons
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/06/the_risk_from_guns.html

Really there are these "instances?" Give me the link.

And so there are millions of gun carrying, well trained military people and Switzerland and they don't have nearly as bad instances with guns as their counterparts? Shocking

Norway, Australia, Canada, Sweden, etc. these countries do have a violent crime rate; but this is mostly comprised of the use of melee weapons, in which most cases the victim would come out of hospital alive.
Again, why do you think everyone can see into other people's minds if they were mentally unstable, and all have the time to help them?
You can still agree that a gun can kill much more efficiently than a knife.
(And the Newton gunner had easy access to guns.)
There were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. And 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in Switzerland.
I think I make it pretty clear that comparing melee weapons to guns is a bit stupid; considering the statistics.
I don't need to give a link for those "instances" you just need to learn more about how the mind works; and how under certain circumstances, the brain just can't take it and shits on everything. James Holmes, the guy who shot up the cinema in Colorado, he was seen as a perfectly normal guy, but he had a mental breakdown after problems in his life. Other people wouldn't know of his personal problems and couldn't help him. It's not like they could of foreseen him on a killing spree?

Have you forgotten? "There were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. And 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in Switzerland. "
Ammo for a weapon? You only need a bullet or two, to pierce through their skull and decimate the brain.
You ignorantly protect the knives despite the death toll on firearms.
If there were no firearms involved in 8,583 of the 12,664 murders in the US, 8,583 people would of been alive today, and only 4082 would've died that year.
Stop strongly protecting barbarianism and death.
You say it is difficult to protect America with its high population? Then why pick on China which has 4x the population of America. IF everyone in China had access to guns, more mass shoots would occur because certain people want to kill and guns tend to kill quite efficiently.
I'll refute the rest tomorrow.

Take a shot to the head with a baseball bat and tell me how you chances of getting out alive are. Or taking a knife to a gut. Knives are in fact DEADLIER than guns. They don't jam, they don't need ammo and they are also more likely to kill you than guns are. People just don't use them as much because guns (like you ignorantly displayed) because guns are believed to be easier

James Holmes?
"Some of Holmes' acquaintances suspected prior to the shooting that Holmes suffered from mental illness and could be dangerous. Two weeks before the shooting, he sent a text message asking a graduate student if they had heard of the disorder dysphoric mania, and warning the student to stay away from him "because I am bad news."'
- "Before Gunfire, Hints of 'Bad News'". The New York Times. Archived from the original on October 13, 2012.

Yeah the US has more deaths. Welcome to a country that his almost HALF the population of the ENTIRE continent of Europe. And yet the US STILL has a lower statistic of people killed by guns per capita than UK or Canada.

Comparing the two. No it's not. Consider that I ALREADY SENT YOU THE LINK
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm

Yes, yes people knew that this guy was mentally unfit. The kid in Newton's mother left the guns out, AND SHE KNEW that her own child was mentally unwell. It was her fault that she left them out. And you know that people can STILL mass murder people with knives right?
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/china.attacks/index.html

China has STRICT gun control and this man still killed more students than VT or in Newton. And actually killed and wounded more people in this one school than the entire Aurora shooting, including MORE DEATHS!

Now you forgot the one reason why they even installed this Amendment. To protect people from the government. Now stop calling any argument stupid when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

So you don't allow mentally unfit people to get a hold of them, and sorry mate, but try sharing a border with Mexico.

And no, people act as though getting guns in the US is easy. But it isn't

Get this; more guns, more shootings.
Guns tend to shoot.
People aren't psychics, and seeding out the lunatics is close to impossible. Some people even have underlying mental conditions that are undetectable until they explode in a mushroom cloud of dead students.
Lessening the access of guns from the potentially mentally disturbed and unpredictable public is what I am talking about. Perhaps an alternative to firearms would be ranged tazers; so no one can possibly get fatally wounded, and people would be able to defend themselves by neutralizing criminals with these tazers.

There are 100 million gun owners in America (legal) that don't shoot people. You act as though a few mentally unfit people going crazy is rational enough to punish law abiding citizens.

People aren't psychics, but what we could do is draw more attention to the real problem; mentally unstable people. That kid in Newton snapped when he found out his mother wanted to send him away. He was unstable and she left them out, unlocked where he could get them. She failed in HER responsibility. But do you think that if that boy had more friends and people who cared for him that he would have done that? Or that they knew the VT shooter was insane and yet took no action? Same with Lockner in Tucson. These are people we know are mentally unwell and yet people have done NOTHING to help them.

Also the FBI reports that 75% of shootings are by repeat offenders, or people we know are criminals. We need to stop being so scared and address the real problem and where it's coming from. Gangs, the Mexican Cartel, criminals are the problem NOT THE CITIZEN. And as Jefferson said, I would rather live in unsafe liberty than safe tyranny.

We have many laws that makes sense now we have to enforce them. It's the apathetic nature of those in charge to take control and address the real problems that are wrong. There were still shootings in Canada, UK, Australia, Norway and several other countries. Switzerland is the second highest civilian population with guns, and yet they have the lowest crime rate.

Tazers aren't that accurate, and yes they provide a safer alternative, but what if you have multiple assailants at the same time? They only focus on one person and one person only. If there are two people then you're shit out of luck

A few mental people= a few more mass murderings.
And you can't expect everyone to be responsible with their firearms.
Helping mentally ill people individually is a completely different issue. Everyone has their own different problems and we can't help everyone. It's too widespread to prevent it.
What we can to, is remove the tools that let them kill people.
Criminals are basically citizens that have broken the law multiple times? And citizens can have mental problems?
From what Jefferson said, how is it tyranny to prevent the access of things that are only used to kill?
Of course you would say there were shootings in Canada, UK, Australia and Norway; but have you realized that these shootings rarely happen or don't happen as often as gun-bearing countries?
When I mentioned tazers, I didn't refer to the ones we have right now. I meant to say that they should be focusing on making weapons that neutralize, instead of fatally wounding people. If someone wants to defend themselves from criminals, they can do so, not by murdering them, but by 'stunning, immobilizing, neutralizing them' through tazering, or some kind of stun gun which people should be researching and manufacturing these weapons, so if these weapons had fallen into the wrong hands, the least the criminals could do is stun people in public, not wound or harm them.

You're not going to completely stop it. There are still shootings in countries with gun control. I talked to a guy from Denmark who says that there are still several shootings in his country every year. Canada has had similar shootings. Maybe not dozens, but still there are shootings.

Helping mentally ill people will help prevent them from wanting to go around killing people, so no it is not a completely different issue at all. Every single one of these people was mentally unstable, and people knew they were mentally unstable and did nothing.
"What we can do is remove the tools that allow them to kill people"
So you mean like knives? Baseball bats? Those kinds of things? Because believe it or not there are multiple ways to kill people. You think that someone like the Newton shooter might not have just grabbed a knife and started killing people with that if he couldn't find a gun? Don't be ridiculous

Guns can be used to kill or defend. In fact 70% of people who are shot AREN'T killed. So guns have a less killing rate than you think. And because he knew that guns were the only means the citizen had to defend himself against a military of a corrupt government.

There are far less mass shooting incidents in Switzerland who is the SECOND highest carriers of guns AND they train their people to use them. Yet they have the lowest crime rate. So no, you are absolutely wrong about that.

So you don't think people can use tazers to kill people? You remark about criminals is untrue. The law abiding citizen is who I was referring to. And you act as though criminals aren't going to get their hands on guns anyways. That's ridiculous

I didn't mean tazers, I said that they should manufacture a weapon much like a tazer, without the fatality. And law abiding citizens are capable of becoming mentally ill; or are already mentally ill, and may express this illness by violently acting out on society.
(Every criminal was a child once, most likely mistreated in their childhood. It's not usually their fault that they were born underprivileged or mentally ill.)

Okay, let me set thing straight; I know we can't completely stop it, that's a no-brainer. But we can make it better than it is.
Again, you have said "there are still shootings in countries with gun control." Guess what? Canada sits right on top of gun-bearing America.
And again, I must repeat- mass shootings occur way less often.
Also, I must say, the mentally ill are difficult to find and treat. Many of them come from the underprivileged areas of society and are hard to reach. There are hundreds of millions people mentally ill. Even people considered sane could have mental breakdowns at any given time.
Knives and bats? Another stupid argument. Have you forgotten my wager to let the public have access to weapons that stun and neutralize danger?
Knives and bats are melee weapons. Just like in games, they are never as effective as weapons and semi-automatic weapons. Guns are ranged, and hurl a chunk of searingly hot, poisonous lead at 896 m/s, which shooters are trained to aim, and pierce through vital organs at a shockingly far distance. Knives and bats far more easier to resist and escape. There are hundreds upon hundreds of instances where an individual manages to fight off a knife or some other melee weapon, escaping with only a few minor wounds; with guns, not so much.
Have you read my argument properly? I've said before that we should be using weapons that stun/immobilize instead of fatally wounding.
"Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations; Switzerland thus has one of the highest militia gun ownership rates in the world."

We can make it better than it is by helping the mentally unstable people before they snap.

The US has a population of 311 million. Canada is a tenth of that. Texas has a larger population than Australia. NZ is only 5 million. Norway is also 5 million, and sweden is 9 million. The UK is 60 million, and though it's easier for them to guard their borders than for us they still have an incredibly high violent crime rate, the worse in Europe.
Statistically these shootings happen about even everywhere. Canada addresses the mentally unstable better than the US, but guess what? They're still just as bad. And another thing, people aren't trying to smuggle them into Canada.
www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12/18/canada-gun-laws-mass-shootings-semi-automatic_n_2325843.html
ca.news.yahoo.com/guns-notorious-canadian-mass-shootings-still-not-prohib ited-234352117.html

The mentally ill are difficult to find and treat?!? LMFAO THEY KNEW THE NEWTON SHOOTER WAS MENTALLY UNSTABLE! They knew the VT shooter was unstable. The Arora shooter. They knew these people needed help and did NOTHING

Oh and since I'm actually trained both in gun and knife use, there are advantages that knives have over gun. Another stupid argument? Clearly you've done NO research on this at all
www.top10stop.com/lifestyle/top-10-most-common-murder-weapons
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/06/the_risk_from_guns.html

Really there are these "instances?" Give me the link.

And so there are millions of gun carrying, well trained military people and Switzerland and they don't have nearly as bad instances with guns as their counterparts? Shocking

Norway, Australia, Canada, Sweden, etc. these countries do have a violent crime rate; but this is mostly comprised of the use of melee weapons, in which most cases the victim would come out of hospital alive.
Again, why do you think everyone can see into other people's minds if they were mentally unstable, and all have the time to help them?
You can still agree that a gun can kill much more efficiently than a knife.
(And the Newton gunner had easy access to guns.)
There were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. And 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in Switzerland.
I think I make it pretty clear that comparing melee weapons to guns is a bit stupid; considering the statistics.
I don't need to give a link for those "instances" you just need to learn more about how the mind works; and how under certain circumstances, the brain just can't take it and shits on everything. James Holmes, the guy who shot up the cinema in Colorado, he was seen as a perfectly normal guy, but he had a mental breakdown after problems in his life. Other people wouldn't know of his personal problems and couldn't help him. It's not like they could of foreseen him on a killing spree?

Have you forgotten? "There were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. And 40 homicides involving firearms, out of the 53 cases of homicide in Switzerland. "
Ammo for a weapon? You only need a bullet or two, to pierce through their skull and decimate the brain.
You ignorantly protect the knives despite the death toll on firearms.
If there were no firearms involved in 8,583 of the 12,664 murders in the US, 8,583 people would of been alive today, and only 4082 would've died that year.
Stop strongly protecting barbarianism and death.
You say it is difficult to protect America with its high population? Then why pick on China which has 4x the population of America. IF everyone in China had access to guns, more mass shoots would occur because certain people want to kill and guns tend to kill quite efficiently.
I'll refute the rest tomorrow.

Take a shot to the head with a baseball bat and tell me how you chances of getting out alive are. Or taking a knife to a gut. Knives are in fact DEADLIER than guns. They don't jam, they don't need ammo and they are also more likely to kill you than guns are. People just don't use them as much because guns (like you ignorantly displayed) because guns are believed to be easier

James Holmes?
"Some of Holmes' acquaintances suspected prior to the shooting that Holmes suffered from mental illness and could be dangerous. Two weeks before the shooting, he sent a text message asking a graduate student if they had heard of the disorder dysphoric mania, and warning the student to stay away from him "because I am bad news."'
- "Before Gunfire, Hints of 'Bad News'". The New York Times. Archived from the original on October 13, 2012.

Yeah the US has more deaths. Welcome to a country that his almost HALF the population of the ENTIRE continent of Europe. And yet the US STILL has a lower statistic of people killed by guns per capita than UK or Canada.

Comparing the two. No it's not. Consider that I ALREADY SENT YOU THE LINK
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm

Yes, yes people knew that this guy was mentally unfit. The kid in Newton's mother left the guns out, AND SHE KNEW that her own child was mentally unwell. It was her fault that she left them out. And you know that people can STILL mass murder people with knives right?
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/china.attacks/index.html

China has STRICT gun control and this man still killed more students than VT or in Newton. And actually killed and wounded more people in this one school than the entire Aurora shooting, including MORE DEATHS!

Now you forgot the one reason why they even installed this Amendment. To protect people from the government. Now stop calling any argument stupid when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

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2scurry

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Plumber now, electrician later.

An electric plumber!

I'm sure.

Garrus thread?

what anime is that?