i can confirm that this is the swedish opinion

hej amerika, er ekonomi suger.

Finland joins in.

I love socialism.

Greeting from The Netherlands

Fun fact: Belgium has a national holiday dedicated to the celebration of socialism.

Leave it to Americans to demonize a system that's working pretty well in Europe.

With added support from Denmark

Well, I could tie my phone to my gamepad and use them as a Nunchaku :o

Just agreeing with you is all.

To what do I owe this Morgan Freeman?

Just agreeing with you is all.

That's true, I agree completely on that. If you claim that you KNOW there is no God, without a molecule of doubt, then you need to either show that the existence of any God (even a deistic one) is either physically or logically impossible.

So yeah that was the point of the original comment, so basically we're agreeing :p.

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As an agnostic, and therefore someone in no way giving a serious answer, I'm reminded of the story of a philosophy professor. For the final exam, he placed a chair at the front of the room and asked his class to disprove it's existance. One student finished within seconds and ended up getting perfect marks for simply writing "What chair?".

Therefore, if athiests wanted to disprove the existence of a higher entity, they must simple answer "What higher entity?"

Nice try, but there's no actual evidence there, just doubt.

You've immediately ruined any chances of getting a logical argument, because you've asked an illogical question.

You cannot disprove the existence of a higher entity, because it is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. However, that doesn't matter, because atheism isn't about disproving the idea of God, it's simply about saying ''Theists, your arguments don't stack up to scrutiny. Therefore, I shan't believe them.'' You can't have atheism proved to you, because atheism is not a positive statement, it's simply the rejection of claims that haven't met their burden of proof.

However, science can disprove things such as specific Gods. We can't disprove the idea of ANY God, because the properties of it could literally be anything, and therefore unknown. However, the Christian God -for example- does have properties known to us. The Bible describes them, and since the Bible is the supposed word of God, then we can rely on it to recount to us what Gods true properties should be. As a result, the massive amount of scientific inaccuracies and logical inconsistencies that the Bible holds disproves the Christian God, but -as I said before- not the idea of any God at all.



Basically, you won't get a definite answer from Atheists, because the question you've asked of them doesn't really make sense. It would be like me asking you to disprove an intangible, invisible, immeasurable Unicorn. There is no way you could disprove that, not at all. Does that mean you should believe in the Unicorn? No way! That would ridiculous. For more on this argument, see ''Russells Teapot'', an argument put forward by Bertrand Russell.

tl;dr Can't prove a negative assertion, so asking atheists to disprove a higher entity is stupid, because atheism is simply rejecting claims not making any.

Just looking back at one of your earlier points. This is a question aimed at GNOSTIC theists and atheists.

If you claim to KNOW, in my opinion, you need proof.

That's true, I agree completely on that. If you claim that you KNOW there is no God, without a molecule of doubt, then you need to either show that the existence of any God (even a deistic one) is either physically or logically impossible.

So yeah that was the point of the original comment, so basically we're agreeing :p.

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