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|#6946 - The big question is if god is allmighty, allknowing and all lo… [+] (12 new replies)||01/24/2013 on Religion Board||0|
#6963 - teoberry (01/24/2013) [-]
Well, what I'd say is free will. We choose not to support them, sure, we'll send them care packages, but 9 times out of 10 some militiaman will grab the goodies and make people work for them. Maybe if people actually got off their ass to help, like many missionaries, then it'd be a better place.
#6976 - boomboyrage (01/25/2013) [-]
When a person decides top do something harmful, it is free will, but what about the suffering in the world that has noting to do with free will?
Birth defects, hurricanes, disease, assorted natural disasters, and such?
Also, missionaries would be helping alot more if they just spend all their resources on food, water and medical aid, rather than building churches, giving out bibles, and injecting religion into the poor and vulnerable, In some cases, they can be directly harmful, like when they tell people in aids ridden countries not to wear condoms.
#6993 - teoberry (01/25/2013) [-]
well, it's how the world works. it's not perfect, it's not meant to be. they do hand out food and water, and they do preach their religion. it's their job. they seem to be the ones doing the riskiest things and going to the riskiest places, so I honestly think people should stop giving them crap until they actually go to Ethiopia or Haiti and help.
#7043 - boomboyrage (01/25/2013) [-]
If the missionaries got not vaccination shots, wore tatterd rags, starved themselves, and lived in mud huts along with the etheopians, then that might be risky, their in about as much risk as going on a holiday, and I think people should give them shit for wasteing so much money bolstering their religion, It would help far more if we gave to charities that don't carry a strong religion such as the humanist schools project in Uganda, or any other secular charitie, The reason that all we hear about is christian chartiys, is becaue they have become so popularised, with so many christians in the world, christians are more likely to give to a christian charity.
#7045 - boomboyrage (01/25/2013) [-]
I'm not objecting to them giving, I'm objecting tom them prosteltising, because its fucking things up pretty bad in a lot of places, It's not only a waste of time and money, but its harmful, (http://www.cobourgatheist.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=220: christian-missionaries-more-harm-than-good&catid=68:proseltyzing-missionaries&It emid=72) A few examples, I'm just saying, that if people were giving to secular charities instead, we could vastly reduce the harm, and we would increase the benifit.
#7058 - teoberry (01/25/2013) [-]
first of all, cobourgathiest.com. that's like me using mormon.org to show you why missionaries are the best. 2nd, a lot of those examples were from the 17th and 18th centuries, when every european had been raised ethnocentrically, so everyone thought they were better than the indians.
about the mother theresa thing, her and her nuns were some of the only people trying to help. they weren't doing a good job, but they were still helping people, even though they made quite a few mistakes.
getting rid of missionaries will do way more harm than good. until 'freethinkers' or whatever you call yourselves hop on a plane to africa and start helping, i suggest everyone leave the missionaries be.
#7126 - boomboyrage (01/26/2013) [-]
Again, I know that they are giving, I'm objecting to them proseltizing, I'm not saying to get rid of them all together, but people should be giving money to the secular charities that aren't wasting resources and, and as for the freethinkers comment, there are plenty of secular charity's that give too the poor and go to different countries to help out, but they can't do much when all the moneys going to the missionaries.
|#23 - "If a women" This being is clearly made up… [+] (1 new reply)||01/20/2013 on Herp||0|
|#6432 - But, correct me if im wrong the bible is the only source that … [+] (2 new replies)||01/18/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#6426 - Because satan is put out to be a bad person. Thats like rootin… [+] (4 new replies)||01/18/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#6421 - Well thats just.... special. [+] (6 new replies)||01/18/2013 on Religion Board||0|
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|#6418 - Why is it called SATANism if its only atheism + the things you stated? [+] (8 new replies)||01/18/2013 on Religion Board||0|
#6420 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
Satanists view satan as a metaphorical figure. think about what he did in the bible, he was cast down to hell because he didn't want to follow god's system (or something like that, I haven't done much biblical reading)
you can read about it on Wikipedia, that'll explain it better: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism
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|#185 - There is a bunny? [+] (3 new replies)||01/17/2013 on Terraforming Mars||+1|
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#164 - anonymous poster (01/17/2013) [-]
Irony: Post a picture of Morgan Freeman who is God saying women run the world
|#6332 - Oh gee we didnt know that the bible say he did, well guys cant… [+] (14 new replies)||01/17/2013 on Religion Board||-1|
#6393 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
Sigh I was hoping you would only quote a few, not the whole damn library XD But I have 20 minutes to spare, might as well go through them.
"Ancient Non-Christian Sources"
Tacitus:> Tacitus is generally considered an amazing source for historical information, it is usually coincided with massive amounts of official documentation to support the research and conclusions written. However, this is not the case when concerning a historical Jesus, there are no official documents presented as supporting links as with many other historical accounts mentioned through Tacitus, and gives the impression of simply being a recited story, than a factual event.
Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas:> How is this a source for Jesus? The event cited for "evidence" occurred 20 years after Jesus supposedly died and went to heaven, so why would he be mentioned in being apart of the riots?
Flavius Josephus:> Josephus is a widely accepted forgery in the specific section mentioning Jesus. Not only does the way he refers to Jesus not match up with his other writings or his core beliefs, but the writing itself has been analyzed to carry a different perception of time and not flow with the rest of the section. Something not seen anywhere else in the writing, it was concise and flowing up until that specific aspect where is seems the author just made a cut away, which is completely unlike anything else written.
Julius Africanus:> Simply a reaffirmation of the eclipse, I don't see how unknown science justifies a historical Jesus.
Pliny the Younger:> This source is simply a compilation of mentionings of followers of the messiah, there is nothing about Jesus.
Emperor Trajan/Emperor Hadrian/Lucian/Mara:> Again, same problem as Pliny, simply references to an ongoing event with no mention of Jesus.
#6394 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
The Jewish Talmud:> Absolutely none of these aspects are attributed to Jesus.
-Jesus is never recorded (in the sources that actually do mention him and aren't forgeries) to have been charged with scorcery or leading isreal to apostacy. I believe the only things he was charged with was Blasphemy and claiming king of the jews.
-Strange how the one identifying measure of Jesus is his crucifixion, who knew he was actually hanged?
-Where in the accounts does it say Jesus was stoned?
Literally all of these are refuted by the description given for "the gospel of thomas" :> "Contain many references to and alleged quotations of Jesus." Last time I checked, references and alleged quotations (especially after such a long passing of time) is not evidence for historicity.
"Lost works quoted in other sources"
Acts of Pontius Pilate:> There are no supporting court documents to relate Jesus being sentenced by Pontius, which is VERY strange considering the Romans were excellent record keepers. Essentially they embraced bureaucratic practices so missing a document as important as the case files for the execution of the self-proclaimed king of the jews, is very out of character for them.
Phlegon:> A laughable source that is so far separated for being a supporting argument for the historicity of Jesus.
"Ancient Christian Sources"
Please how these support the existence of a historical Jesus? As far as I can see these simply mention Jesus and at a time when christianity had become rampant.These are equivalent to signs outside churches mentioning Jesus being used as evidence for Jesus.
#6385 - boomboyrage (01/18/2013) [-]
Sorry jokeface, but noblexfenrir is correct, every one of those sources are either, way outside the time of jesus supposed life time, later interprolations, or flat out hoax's.
This should asess them.
#6397 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
Well it would probably be attributed to people believing the hoax that there is massive amounts of evidence for Jesus when in reality, the "evidence" is connected to basic roots (Usually being the new testament, Tacitus, Josephus, and Pontius.).
Where as the evidence for ceaser is less in number but much more decisive in context and quality.
I remember an episode of Bullshit! where they compared the time diluted evidence for Jesus to the evidence for certain aspects of Elvis' life. Where not even 50 years after his death people were still unsure of whether or not he died.
#6399 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
and they committed the newtown killings to distract us from their real goal: They are stealing our livestock feed. www.wiscnews.com/baraboonewsrepublic/news/local/article_7c540918-610a-11e2-82f4-001a4bcf887a.html
Look throughout history, 500 years ago we had alot more farmers, and better fed animals, and what do we see? No assault weapon deaths whatsoever.
But now? Industrialization has led to more cities and less independently owned farms and what else? More assault weapon deaths.
Obviously there is something Obama is hiding.
#6406 - anonymous poster (01/18/2013) [-]
Probably to feed the reptillian humanoids.......
|#105 - Gief red thumbs plox! [+] (5 new replies)||01/17/2013 on merry christmas||+12|
#139 - anonymous poster (01/17/2013) [-]
so life must be hard for you...being green
#111 - anonymous poster (01/17/2013) [-]
okay can this anon have some too?
#114 - anonymous poster (01/17/2013) [-]
this is what i've always wanted!
#130 - anonymous poster (01/17/2013) [-]
oh stop it, you're making me blush!
i'm so spoiled, and its not even fair! no one is giving poor erooo any!
#169 - anonymous poster (01/17/2013) [-]
Insert those red thumbs directly up my anus plox.
|#6310 - They were planted there by god to test our fairh hurr durr||01/17/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#5928 - Im sorry this isnt proof this is just a bunch of false stories… [+] (2 new replies)||01/14/2013 on Religion Board||+1|
|#5907 - Bring the proof christian boy [+] (4 new replies)||01/14/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#5906 - Man i was sure i logged in that time...||01/14/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#21175 - Not really updated on the case, but the way i see it the easie…||01/13/2013 on Politics - politics news,...||-1|
|#5562 - I know this is a pretty unpopular opinion on this board as mos…||01/13/2013 on Religion Board||+2|
|#5561 - This^||01/13/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#5560 - Dum dum dum dum dum But thats my idea on every …||01/13/2013 on Religion Board||0|
|#5558 - Then can you please tell me why most scientists are atheist an…||01/13/2013 on Religion Board||0|
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|#4 - I disagree, maybe it will take years but i think everything th… [+] (5 new replies)||01/13/2013 on Richard Dawkins||+1|
#6 - anonymous poster (01/14/2013) [-]
No one person will ever understand all - but together we can build a better understanding. Religion often glorifies mystery not insight - the opposite of science.
"Science doesn't know everything - if it did it'd stop!" - Dara O'Briain.
#7 - grimgrey (01/14/2013) [-]
Religion gives you background to your own source. You don't need some quote to prove the existence of god. I don't hate science, i just look at it as the advanced understanding of the human mind. Whilst, i look at religion as the advanced purpose of being human. Weather or not we can pass the test God placed before. That's why it's called faith.
#9 - grimgrey (10/11/2013) [-]
"Judaism" I believe is the proper term. Jesus is a significant human being, why?
His death resulted in him being the ideal symbol of belief to the christian faith. But why look at him. If nobody gave a shat about Jesus why is he this claimed son of GOD? Why not the thousands of dead American soldiers or the Afghanistan children dying everyday or all the other humans passing on. Because he was significant. He must have done something to amaze people to gather this shitload of a following. Not everybody was stupid then, including some of followers.
|#5473 - Well then why do you accuse me and kanade of being such losers…||01/13/2013 on Religion Board||+2|