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#8168 - [url deleted] 01/31/2013 on Religion Board 0
#8167 - Wat? 01/31/2013 on Religion Board 0
#7476 - Dont know whre you are going here, but let me try to answer so…  [+] (3 new replies) 01/28/2013 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #7480 - teoberry (01/28/2013) [-]
It's their money, they do what they want with it. A lot of it actually goes to good causes, yes, there is some for church upkeep, and maybe some money for the priest (a man's gotta eat), but besides that, the rest will go to running programs to help others (hampers, inn from the cold, St. vincent de paul). Yeah, a few priests skim money, that's wrong. They get charged, and go to the slammer.
#7477 - Womens Study Major (01/28/2013) [-]
My post doesn't concern necessarily religion, and I probably should have tried emphasising that better. I used "christfags" as an example because it's mainly what people assume I am, merely for raising these questions.

No, it just concerns theism in general. Seems to me that everytime stuff like this comes up, atheists are faster than... I don't know, me in the sack, to outright telling me that I'm retarded for being religious. Even if I never claimed to be religious, or a theist whatsoever.

I can't comment on religious fanatics though, because I never meet these people, online or offline. Shit like this doesn't happen where I'm from. The little community where I'm from, you've got Theists, and Atheists, and nobody gives a shit.

I'm not the most educated fuck on any of this, and I would never claim to be, but it's in my understanding that theism is based on a lot of symbolics. I know people with a firm faith in "God", and "God" is just a symbol for them. For after life, which in turn, is a motivation for living. And that makes sense to me. Doesn't seem in any way "dumb as fuck". And it certainly does not have anything to do with "imaginary friends".
#7659 - thezillis (01/29/2013) [-]
#6946 - The big question is if god is allmighty, allknowing and all lo…  [+] (12 new replies) 01/24/2013 on Religion Board 0
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User avatar #6947 - jbails (01/24/2013) [-]
As a devout Atheist, I don't know how a Christian would react to that.
I'd assume they'd say that it's the devil's influence.
User avatar #7012 - cullenatorguy (01/25/2013) [-]
>devout Atheist
>capitalizing "A" in "atheist"

get out.
User avatar #6963 - teoberry (01/24/2013) [-]
Well, what I'd say is free will. We choose not to support them, sure, we'll send them care packages, but 9 times out of 10 some militiaman will grab the goodies and make people work for them. Maybe if people actually got off their ass to help, like many missionaries, then it'd be a better place.
#7095 - sheepysquirrel (01/26/2013) [-]
In reference to missionaries.
User avatar #6976 - boomboyrage (01/25/2013) [-]
When a person decides top do something harmful, it is free will, but what about the suffering in the world that has noting to do with free will?
Birth defects, hurricanes, disease, assorted natural disasters, and such?
Also, missionaries would be helping alot more if they just spend all their resources on food, water and medical aid, rather than building churches, giving out bibles, and injecting religion into the poor and vulnerable, In some cases, they can be directly harmful, like when they tell people in aids ridden countries not to wear condoms.
User avatar #6993 - teoberry (01/25/2013) [-]
well, it's how the world works. it's not perfect, it's not meant to be. they do hand out food and water, and they do preach their religion. it's their job. they seem to be the ones doing the riskiest things and going to the riskiest places, so I honestly think people should stop giving them crap until they actually go to Ethiopia or Haiti and help.
User avatar #7043 - boomboyrage (01/25/2013) [-]
Risk, really?
If the missionaries got not vaccination shots, wore tatterd rags, starved themselves, and lived in mud huts along with the etheopians, then that might be risky, their in about as much risk as going on a holiday, and I think people should give them shit for wasteing so much money bolstering their religion, It would help far more if we gave to charities that don't carry a strong religion such as the humanist schools project in Uganda, or any other secular charitie, The reason that all we hear about is christian chartiys, is becaue they have become so popularised, with so many christians in the world, christians are more likely to give to a christian charity.
User avatar #7044 - teoberry (01/25/2013) [-]
At least they're giving. And, there's also militia and bandits to worry about, those places have no laws. They'll kidnap anyone if they can get a ransom
User avatar #7045 - boomboyrage (01/25/2013) [-]
I'm not objecting to them giving, I'm objecting tom them prosteltising, because its fucking things up pretty bad in a lot of places, It's not only a waste of time and money, but its harmful, (http://www.cobourgatheist.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=220: christian-missionaries-more-harm-than-good&catid=68:proseltyzing-missionaries&It emid=72) A few examples, I'm just saying, that if people were giving to secular charities instead, we could vastly reduce the harm, and we would increase the benifit.
User avatar #7058 - teoberry (01/25/2013) [-]
first of all, cobourgathiest.com. that's like me using mormon.org to show you why missionaries are the best. 2nd, a lot of those examples were from the 17th and 18th centuries, when every european had been raised ethnocentrically, so everyone thought they were better than the indians.

about the mother theresa thing, her and her nuns were some of the only people trying to help. they weren't doing a good job, but they were still helping people, even though they made quite a few mistakes.

getting rid of missionaries will do way more harm than good. until 'freethinkers' or whatever you call yourselves hop on a plane to africa and start helping, i suggest everyone leave the missionaries be.
User avatar #7126 - boomboyrage (01/26/2013) [-]
Again, I know that they are giving, I'm objecting to them proseltizing, I'm not saying to get rid of them all together, but people should be giving money to the secular charities that aren't wasting resources and, and as for the freethinkers comment, there are plenty of secular charity's that give too the poor and go to different countries to help out, but they can't do much when all the moneys going to the missionaries.
#23 - "If a women" This being is clearly made up…  [+] (1 new reply) 01/20/2013 on Herp 0
User avatar #50 - xyxoz (01/20/2013) [-]
No, because there is no way a single woman could carry five apples and five oranges.
#6432 - But, correct me if im wrong the bible is the only source that …  [+] (2 new replies) 01/18/2013 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #6568 - kingnarnode (01/19/2013) [-]
fuck dude, if it wasn't for satan you wouldn't be able to think for yourself, satan is the best thing that ever happened in the bible ever
User avatar #6433 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
it's the only thing that portrays satan as an evil enemy of god and a metaphor for all things bad and unholy.
we focus more on the self-sufficient/free thinking/rebellious part of the portrayal. not the evil thing.
#6426 - Because satan is put out to be a bad person. Thats like rootin…  [+] (4 new replies) 01/18/2013 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #6431 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
we use "satan" as a symbol of man's self guiding inherit nature, not so much the evil type of thing the bible portrays
#6432 - erooo (01/18/2013) [-]
But, correct me if im wrong the bible is the only source that portrays satan?
User avatar #6568 - kingnarnode (01/19/2013) [-]
fuck dude, if it wasn't for satan you wouldn't be able to think for yourself, satan is the best thing that ever happened in the bible ever
User avatar #6433 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
it's the only thing that portrays satan as an evil enemy of god and a metaphor for all things bad and unholy.
we focus more on the self-sufficient/free thinking/rebellious part of the portrayal. not the evil thing.
#6421 - Well thats just.... special.  [+] (6 new replies) 01/18/2013 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #6422 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
why put it that way?
#6426 - erooo (01/18/2013) [-]
Because satan is put out to be a bad person. Thats like rooting for the bad guy in movies. Cry for attention imo.
User avatar #6431 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
we use "satan" as a symbol of man's self guiding inherit nature, not so much the evil type of thing the bible portrays
#6432 - erooo (01/18/2013) [-]
But, correct me if im wrong the bible is the only source that portrays satan?
User avatar #6568 - kingnarnode (01/19/2013) [-]
fuck dude, if it wasn't for satan you wouldn't be able to think for yourself, satan is the best thing that ever happened in the bible ever
User avatar #6433 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
it's the only thing that portrays satan as an evil enemy of god and a metaphor for all things bad and unholy.
we focus more on the self-sufficient/free thinking/rebellious part of the portrayal. not the evil thing.
#6419 - Picture 01/18/2013 on Religion Board 0
#6418 - Why is it called SATANism if its only atheism + the things you stated?  [+] (8 new replies) 01/18/2013 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #6420 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
Satanists view satan as a metaphorical figure. think about what he did in the bible, he was cast down to hell because he didn't want to follow god's system (or something like that, I haven't done much biblical reading)

you can read about it on Wikipedia, that'll explain it better: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism
#6421 - erooo (01/18/2013) [-]
Well thats just.... special.
User avatar #6422 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
why put it that way?
#6426 - erooo (01/18/2013) [-]
Because satan is put out to be a bad person. Thats like rooting for the bad guy in movies. Cry for attention imo.
User avatar #6431 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
we use "satan" as a symbol of man's self guiding inherit nature, not so much the evil type of thing the bible portrays
#6432 - erooo (01/18/2013) [-]
But, correct me if im wrong the bible is the only source that portrays satan?
User avatar #6568 - kingnarnode (01/19/2013) [-]
fuck dude, if it wasn't for satan you wouldn't be able to think for yourself, satan is the best thing that ever happened in the bible ever
User avatar #6433 - notguitaraddict (01/18/2013) [-]
it's the only thing that portrays satan as an evil enemy of god and a metaphor for all things bad and unholy.
we focus more on the self-sufficient/free thinking/rebellious part of the portrayal. not the evil thing.
#1 - He will find you.. 01/17/2013 on Dragonite +5
#194 - Its cute too! 01/17/2013 on Terraforming Mars 0
#185 - There is a bunny?  [+] (2 new replies) 01/17/2013 on Terraforming Mars +1
#193 - tlrloolrlt (01/17/2013) [-]
Can't you see it?
#194 - erooo (01/17/2013) [-]
Its cute too!
#153 - Picture  [+] (2 new replies) 01/17/2013 on Passion for your art +13
#164 - Womens Study Major (01/17/2013) [-]
Irony: Post a picture of Morgan Freeman who is God saying women run the world

Just saying
User avatar #187 - anthonyh (01/17/2013) [-]
He said that they "do not run the world"
#6332 - Oh gee we didnt know that the bible say he did, well guys cant…  [+] (14 new replies) 01/17/2013 on Religion Board -1
User avatar #6338 - anonymoose (01/17/2013) [-]
The Bible is the only recorded source of his existence. If you believe he existed then you're treating the Bible as a genuine source.
User avatar #6352 - cleverguy (01/18/2013) [-]
the bible is not the only recorded source of his existence. he definitely existed. im not christian, im just sayin
User avatar #6369 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
It actually pretty much is mate, the current mainstream outside sources have been proven untrustworthy and other documents you would assume would be out there don't even exist.
User avatar #6376 - jokeface (01/18/2013) [-]
http://www.westarkchurchofchrist.org/library/extrabiblical.htm
User avatar #6393 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
Sigh I was hoping you would only quote a few, not the whole damn library XD But I have 20 minutes to spare, might as well go through them.

"Ancient Non-Christian Sources"
Tacitus:> Tacitus is generally considered an amazing source for historical information, it is usually coincided with massive amounts of official documentation to support the research and conclusions written. However, this is not the case when concerning a historical Jesus, there are no official documents presented as supporting links as with many other historical accounts mentioned through Tacitus, and gives the impression of simply being a recited story, than a factual event.

Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas:> How is this a source for Jesus? The event cited for "evidence" occurred 20 years after Jesus supposedly died and went to heaven, so why would he be mentioned in being apart of the riots?

Flavius Josephus:> Josephus is a widely accepted forgery in the specific section mentioning Jesus. Not only does the way he refers to Jesus not match up with his other writings or his core beliefs, but the writing itself has been analyzed to carry a different perception of time and not flow with the rest of the section. Something not seen anywhere else in the writing, it was concise and flowing up until that specific aspect where is seems the author just made a cut away, which is completely unlike anything else written.

Julius Africanus:> Simply a reaffirmation of the eclipse, I don't see how unknown science justifies a historical Jesus.

Pliny the Younger:> This source is simply a compilation of mentionings of followers of the messiah, there is nothing about Jesus.

Emperor Trajan/Emperor Hadrian/Lucian/Mara:> Again, same problem as Pliny, simply references to an ongoing event with no mention of Jesus.

User avatar #6394 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
The Jewish Talmud:> Absolutely none of these aspects are attributed to Jesus.
-Jesus is never recorded (in the sources that actually do mention him and aren't forgeries) to have been charged with scorcery or leading isreal to apostacy. I believe the only things he was charged with was Blasphemy and claiming king of the jews.
-Strange how the one identifying measure of Jesus is his crucifixion, who knew he was actually hanged?
-Where in the accounts does it say Jesus was stoned?


"Gnostic Sources"

Literally all of these are refuted by the description given for "the gospel of thomas" :> "Contain many references to and alleged quotations of Jesus." Last time I checked, references and alleged quotations (especially after such a long passing of time) is not evidence for historicity.

"Lost works quoted in other sources"

Acts of Pontius Pilate:> There are no supporting court documents to relate Jesus being sentenced by Pontius, which is VERY strange considering the Romans were excellent record keepers. Essentially they embraced bureaucratic practices so missing a document as important as the case files for the execution of the self-proclaimed king of the jews, is very out of character for them.

Phlegon:> A laughable source that is so far separated for being a supporting argument for the historicity of Jesus.


"Ancient Christian Sources"
Please how these support the existence of a historical Jesus? As far as I can see these simply mention Jesus and at a time when christianity had become rampant.These are equivalent to signs outside churches mentioning Jesus being used as evidence for Jesus.

User avatar #11598 - thebritishguy (02/18/2013) [-]
nice work ( :
User avatar #6385 - boomboyrage (01/18/2013) [-]
Sorry jokeface, but noblexfenrir is correct, every one of those sources are either, way outside the time of jesus supposed life time, later interprolations, or flat out hoax's.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_historical_existence_of_Jesus_Christ
This should asess them.
User avatar #6395 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
Well damn, Thank you for posting that although 20 minutes sooner would have been appreciated then I wouldn't have typed all that shit up XD

Either way, thanks for the source, it gave me a little bit more information that I can use.
User avatar #6396 - boomboyrage (01/18/2013) [-]
No problem, I usually just post this when people give me the "Jesus Christ is more historically verifiable than Julius Ceaser" line, of pure inmitigated derp!
User avatar #6397 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
Well it would probably be attributed to people believing the hoax that there is massive amounts of evidence for Jesus when in reality, the "evidence" is connected to basic roots (Usually being the new testament, Tacitus, Josephus, and Pontius.).

Where as the evidence for ceaser is less in number but much more decisive in context and quality.

I remember an episode of Bullshit! where they compared the time diluted evidence for Jesus to the evidence for certain aspects of Elvis' life. Where not even 50 years after his death people were still unsure of whether or not he died.
User avatar #6398 - boomboyrage (01/18/2013) [-]
Elvis is still alive, hes a high ranking official in the illuminati, didn't you know?
He's living in the illuminati underground kingdom, with the mole people.
User avatar #6399 - noblexfenrir (01/18/2013) [-]
and they committed the newtown killings to distract us from their real goal: They are stealing our livestock feed. www.wiscnews.com/baraboonewsrepublic/news/local/article_7c540918-610a-11e2-82f4-001a4bcf887a.html

Look throughout history, 500 years ago we had alot more farmers, and better fed animals, and what do we see? No assault weapon deaths whatsoever.

But now? Industrialization has led to more cities and less independently owned farms and what else? More assault weapon deaths.

Obviously there is something Obama is hiding.
#6406 - Womens Study Major (01/18/2013) [-]
Probably to feed the reptillian humanoids.......
#105 - Gief red thumbs plox!  [+] (5 new replies) 01/17/2013 on merry christmas +12
#139 - Womens Study Major (01/17/2013) [-]
so life must be hard for you...being green
#111 - Womens Study Major (01/17/2013) [-]
okay can this anon have some too?
prettttttty pleaaaseeee?
#114 - Womens Study Major (01/17/2013) [-]
thank you!
this is what i've always wanted!
#130 - Womens Study Major (01/17/2013) [-]
oh stop it, you're making me blush!
i'm so spoiled, and its not even fair! no one is giving poor erooo any!
#169 - Womens Study Major (01/17/2013) [-]
Insert those red thumbs directly up my anus plox.
#6310 - They were planted there by god to test our fairh hurr durr 01/17/2013 on Religion Board 0
#5928 - Im sorry this isnt proof this is just a bunch of false stories…  [+] (2 new replies) 01/14/2013 on Religion Board +1
User avatar #5932 - doctorwatson (01/14/2013) [-]
Then you are too blind to see the Truth.
User avatar #5936 - marinepenguin (01/14/2013) [-]
I would say the same to you.
#5907 - Bring the proof christian boy  [+] (4 new replies) 01/14/2013 on Religion Board 0
#5928 - erooo (01/14/2013) [-]
Im sorry this isnt proof this is just a bunch of false stories, hallelujas an amens.
User avatar #5932 - doctorwatson (01/14/2013) [-]
Then you are too blind to see the Truth.
User avatar #5936 - marinepenguin (01/14/2013) [-]
I would say the same to you.
#5906 - Man i was sure i logged in that time... 01/14/2013 on Religion Board 0
#21175 - Not really updated on the case, but the way i see it the easie… 01/13/2013 on Politics - politics news,... -1
#5562 - I know this is a pretty unpopular opinion on this board as mos… 01/13/2013 on Religion Board +2
#5561 - This^ 01/13/2013 on Religion Board 0
#5560 - Dum dum dum dum dum But thats my idea on every … 01/13/2013 on Religion Board 0
#5558 - Then can you please tell me why most scientists are atheist an… 01/13/2013 on Religion Board 0
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