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#11 - Treating the symptom instead of the problem is always the wron…  [+] (8 new replies) 05/02/2015 on diversity +9
#12 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
It's never enough, but sometimes you have to treat the symptom. If the symptom is people being hurt, then you really don't have another choice. It will take many generations for racism and sexism to end. If someone is destined not to see that happen in their lifetime, what consolation is it to them to say "I know you have to choose between heat and groceries because you can't get a job due to your skin color or genitals, but take heart! We are working very hard to make sure people 100 years from now don't have that experience." Treating the symptoms isn't enough, but neither is treating the disease. We need to do both.
#22 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
#23 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
So you don't think we should try to help people who can't get jobs because of their gender or skin color? Can't say I'm surprised, we are on /pol/ 2 after all.

www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
User avatar #24 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
Thats the second time youve linked that source
But I honestly don't follow your logic. You say that diversity is great for the workforce, even though it can slow down productivity. How is that worth it in any way shape or form?
#26 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
Diversity in and of itself means nothing. Diversity is merely the result of a government policy designed to give women and minorities a fair chance in the job market. I linked that source twice because it's a good source. It is harder for an equally qualified black person to get a job than their white counterpart, and that's WITH affirmative action in place. It was certainly much worse before, but nobody thought to do that kind of testing until recently. If women and minorities have a significantly harder time finding a job, it naturally follows that they are going to encounter hardship, and moreover their children will experience hardship, solely because of the color of their skin or what's between their legs. I believe this is unacceptable. How on earth can you even compare the importance of efficiency in industry to the importance of making sure everyone has access to work, and through work, access to food, shelter, and all the other necessities of life? It truly boggles my mind when people consider the effect on industry in their ethical world view.
User avatar #27 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
I believe that it doesnt matter who the person that gets the job is, if they're the most qualified for the position. If they are not the most qualified for that position, I dont believe they should get it. Its plain and simple. And you say that this is a good source even though this is from 13 years ago. Find me a good source thats more recent and I'll believe it
#28 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
According to that source, the most qualified person is not getting the job if that person is black. There hasn't been a follow up study, so that's the most recent data I can give you. What I can give you is this: fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/
The point of the article is to compare the parties, but no matter which party you look at, the data shows that racism hasn't changed much since the paper was released. Here's another paper from that site showing that female journalists need much better credentials to win the Pulitzer Prize: fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/are-you-a-woman-who-wants-to-win-a-pulitzer-go-to-grad-school/

Now let's just assume for argument's sake that the situation is still the same today: employers are significantly less likely to respond to a black applicant than to a white applicant with identical qualifications. Would you still argue against the need for government intervention then? Why? Don't just say you don't think that's the case. You've said you think the most qualified candidate should get the job. If that's not happening, then what do you propose to do for those people? I'm also not looking for a long term answer. I want to know what you think we should do about people who are living in poverty due to discrimination in the present.
User avatar #29 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
I believe that it should be fair, yes, but I dont believe whatsoever that people should lose their jobs in the name of diversity, nor do I believe that people should be given a job because of quotas as affix said.
As for a solution, I dont have one; this is mainly due to the fact that Im not a creative person, and for me to create a good solution when it comes to anything dealing with people is extremely difficult. I'd rather be working with machines and numbers than people simply due to the fact that they don't change like people do.
#9 - Promoting inefficiency may not be the goal, but it's a consequ…  [+] (10 new replies) 05/02/2015 on diversity +8
#10 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
Proper practices are only useful if they're followed by the books, and it's extraordinarily difficult to prove that the practices have not been followed. People are not screws and nails. There are no nail children who are going without food tonight because someone wanted a screw instead. In the real world, little Billy, people are scumbags who will makes racist decisions, and sometimes the government needs to come in and change that because making sure everyone is fed is a little bit more important than 'muh freedums' to be a racist.
User avatar #11 - dunkleosteus (05/02/2015) [-]
Treating the symptom instead of the problem is always the wrong decision.
#12 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
It's never enough, but sometimes you have to treat the symptom. If the symptom is people being hurt, then you really don't have another choice. It will take many generations for racism and sexism to end. If someone is destined not to see that happen in their lifetime, what consolation is it to them to say "I know you have to choose between heat and groceries because you can't get a job due to your skin color or genitals, but take heart! We are working very hard to make sure people 100 years from now don't have that experience." Treating the symptoms isn't enough, but neither is treating the disease. We need to do both.
#22 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
#23 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
So you don't think we should try to help people who can't get jobs because of their gender or skin color? Can't say I'm surprised, we are on /pol/ 2 after all.

www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
User avatar #24 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
Thats the second time youve linked that source
But I honestly don't follow your logic. You say that diversity is great for the workforce, even though it can slow down productivity. How is that worth it in any way shape or form?
#26 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
Diversity in and of itself means nothing. Diversity is merely the result of a government policy designed to give women and minorities a fair chance in the job market. I linked that source twice because it's a good source. It is harder for an equally qualified black person to get a job than their white counterpart, and that's WITH affirmative action in place. It was certainly much worse before, but nobody thought to do that kind of testing until recently. If women and minorities have a significantly harder time finding a job, it naturally follows that they are going to encounter hardship, and moreover their children will experience hardship, solely because of the color of their skin or what's between their legs. I believe this is unacceptable. How on earth can you even compare the importance of efficiency in industry to the importance of making sure everyone has access to work, and through work, access to food, shelter, and all the other necessities of life? It truly boggles my mind when people consider the effect on industry in their ethical world view.
User avatar #27 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
I believe that it doesnt matter who the person that gets the job is, if they're the most qualified for the position. If they are not the most qualified for that position, I dont believe they should get it. Its plain and simple. And you say that this is a good source even though this is from 13 years ago. Find me a good source thats more recent and I'll believe it
#28 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
According to that source, the most qualified person is not getting the job if that person is black. There hasn't been a follow up study, so that's the most recent data I can give you. What I can give you is this: fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/
The point of the article is to compare the parties, but no matter which party you look at, the data shows that racism hasn't changed much since the paper was released. Here's another paper from that site showing that female journalists need much better credentials to win the Pulitzer Prize: fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/are-you-a-woman-who-wants-to-win-a-pulitzer-go-to-grad-school/

Now let's just assume for argument's sake that the situation is still the same today: employers are significantly less likely to respond to a black applicant than to a white applicant with identical qualifications. Would you still argue against the need for government intervention then? Why? Don't just say you don't think that's the case. You've said you think the most qualified candidate should get the job. If that's not happening, then what do you propose to do for those people? I'm also not looking for a long term answer. I want to know what you think we should do about people who are living in poverty due to discrimination in the present.
User avatar #29 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
I believe that it should be fair, yes, but I dont believe whatsoever that people should lose their jobs in the name of diversity, nor do I believe that people should be given a job because of quotas as affix said.
As for a solution, I dont have one; this is mainly due to the fact that Im not a creative person, and for me to create a good solution when it comes to anything dealing with people is extremely difficult. I'd rather be working with machines and numbers than people simply due to the fact that they don't change like people do.
#7 - dude don't be an idiot. You're taking the metaphor out of cont…  [+] (21 new replies) 05/02/2015 on diversity +28
#51 - Common Pepe (05/03/2015) [-]
Although, anyone that assumes a diverse group is never the best "hammer" for any given "nail" is just wrong.

Diversity for the sake of diversity is bad, but diversity in and of itself is a powerful resource. Please attempt to distinguish the concepts before making large generalizations.
#82 - Common Pepe (05/03/2015) [-]
nobody is assuming that. you're the one having trouble, the rest of us don't need to distinguish further because we already knew that you idiot. the point is, plain and simple, that positions should be filled with the most qualified candidate always. no matter what race or sex the candidate may be, it doesn't matter if it works out being 100% white or 100% black or 100% lizards, as long as they were all legitimately the best person for the job.
#34 - innocentbabies (05/03/2015) [-]
It's not totally off though, diversity can be helpful insofar as having multiple ways to solve a problem sometimes nails are more practical than screws, sometimes not, for example , but diversity for its own sake is stupid.
So, choosing between a competent man and an equally competent woman to fill a position where all of the coworkers are men, it could make sense to choose the woman because she would see things differently. Choosing an incompetent woman, just to have a woman is retarded.
#8 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
The laws are to prevent actual discrimination, not promote inefficiency. In my eyes moderate reduction in efficiency is a fine price to pay if discriminatory practices are eliminated in the process.
User avatar #13 - wellimnotsure (05/02/2015) [-]
WRONG
#14 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
Great point. I have truly found a worthy opponent.

www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
User avatar #15 - wellimnotsure (05/02/2015) [-]
its a shame when your sources are countered by common sense huh?
#16 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
You remind me of those neckbeards who think that their own opinion is always right because they have "more superior logic."
User avatar #17 - wellimnotsure (05/02/2015) [-]
common sense isn't superior logic but please keep digging your hole
#18 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
User avatar #9 - dunkleosteus (05/02/2015) [-]
Promoting inefficiency may not be the goal, but it's a consequence. There are more ways to deter discrimination than mandating certain minorities in positions. The problem is in the employer, and proper practices to ensure a fair and just decision making process would correctly select the most suitable applicant. If there are no qualified minorities for a position, there shouldn't be any minorities employed. That won't happen every single time, but it WILL happen sometimes.
#10 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
Proper practices are only useful if they're followed by the books, and it's extraordinarily difficult to prove that the practices have not been followed. People are not screws and nails. There are no nail children who are going without food tonight because someone wanted a screw instead. In the real world, little Billy, people are scumbags who will makes racist decisions, and sometimes the government needs to come in and change that because making sure everyone is fed is a little bit more important than 'muh freedums' to be a racist.
User avatar #11 - dunkleosteus (05/02/2015) [-]
Treating the symptom instead of the problem is always the wrong decision.
#12 - mayoroftownsville (05/02/2015) [-]
It's never enough, but sometimes you have to treat the symptom. If the symptom is people being hurt, then you really don't have another choice. It will take many generations for racism and sexism to end. If someone is destined not to see that happen in their lifetime, what consolation is it to them to say "I know you have to choose between heat and groceries because you can't get a job due to your skin color or genitals, but take heart! We are working very hard to make sure people 100 years from now don't have that experience." Treating the symptoms isn't enough, but neither is treating the disease. We need to do both.
#22 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
#23 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
So you don't think we should try to help people who can't get jobs because of their gender or skin color? Can't say I'm surprised, we are on /pol/ 2 after all.

www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
User avatar #24 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
Thats the second time youve linked that source
But I honestly don't follow your logic. You say that diversity is great for the workforce, even though it can slow down productivity. How is that worth it in any way shape or form?
#26 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
Diversity in and of itself means nothing. Diversity is merely the result of a government policy designed to give women and minorities a fair chance in the job market. I linked that source twice because it's a good source. It is harder for an equally qualified black person to get a job than their white counterpart, and that's WITH affirmative action in place. It was certainly much worse before, but nobody thought to do that kind of testing until recently. If women and minorities have a significantly harder time finding a job, it naturally follows that they are going to encounter hardship, and moreover their children will experience hardship, solely because of the color of their skin or what's between their legs. I believe this is unacceptable. How on earth can you even compare the importance of efficiency in industry to the importance of making sure everyone has access to work, and through work, access to food, shelter, and all the other necessities of life? It truly boggles my mind when people consider the effect on industry in their ethical world view.
User avatar #27 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
I believe that it doesnt matter who the person that gets the job is, if they're the most qualified for the position. If they are not the most qualified for that position, I dont believe they should get it. Its plain and simple. And you say that this is a good source even though this is from 13 years ago. Find me a good source thats more recent and I'll believe it
#28 - mayoroftownsville (05/03/2015) [-]
According to that source, the most qualified person is not getting the job if that person is black. There hasn't been a follow up study, so that's the most recent data I can give you. What I can give you is this: fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/
The point of the article is to compare the parties, but no matter which party you look at, the data shows that racism hasn't changed much since the paper was released. Here's another paper from that site showing that female journalists need much better credentials to win the Pulitzer Prize: fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/are-you-a-woman-who-wants-to-win-a-pulitzer-go-to-grad-school/

Now let's just assume for argument's sake that the situation is still the same today: employers are significantly less likely to respond to a black applicant than to a white applicant with identical qualifications. Would you still argue against the need for government intervention then? Why? Don't just say you don't think that's the case. You've said you think the most qualified candidate should get the job. If that's not happening, then what do you propose to do for those people? I'm also not looking for a long term answer. I want to know what you think we should do about people who are living in poverty due to discrimination in the present.
User avatar #29 - omicronperseieight (05/03/2015) [-]
I believe that it should be fair, yes, but I dont believe whatsoever that people should lose their jobs in the name of diversity, nor do I believe that people should be given a job because of quotas as affix said.
As for a solution, I dont have one; this is mainly due to the fact that Im not a creative person, and for me to create a good solution when it comes to anything dealing with people is extremely difficult. I'd rather be working with machines and numbers than people simply due to the fact that they don't change like people do.
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#1 - 3952 calories in 52 pizza rolls  [+] (15 new replies) 05/02/2015 on You were right +129
User avatar #58 - myfunnyfile (05/03/2015) [-]
Did you divide 52 pizza rolls by 2 or the 152 calories by 2? I must know
User avatar #70 - dunkleosteus (05/03/2015) [-]
I multiplied 152 calories by 26
#62 - Common Pepe (05/03/2015) [-]
yes
#7 - OtisMcWonderful (05/03/2015) [-]
There's actually only ~2000 calories in 52 rolls according to the actual nutrition facts. But still, that's a lot of fucking calories for a single meal.
User avatar #9 - nathiuz (05/03/2015) [-]
Christ, I keep myself under 2000 a day
User avatar #14 - hirollin (05/03/2015) [-]
it's essentially 4 bowls of cereal. give or take. and that's the "healthy" kind.
User avatar #13 - MatthewsGauss (05/03/2015) [-]
thats unhealthy dawg unless manlet or grill
User avatar #68 - floran (05/03/2015) [-]
or on diet
under 2000 makes you lose weight
User avatar #50 - GIJorge (05/03/2015) [-]
Unrelated, but I'm tall and skinny. And I try not to go over 2000 also, since my base metabolism is 1700. Is it bad? I'm doing gym 3 times a week, so I should probably eat some more, right?
#60 - Common Pepe (05/03/2015) [-]
In general? you need to get to about the 2000 for a woman and 2500 for a man of average activity levels for weight maintenance.

Are you aiming to gain (muscle) lose weight or maintain? If you want to build muscle, you need more Calories and high protein with it. Losing, you are probably golden, maintanenace is trickier to calculate but you probably need more. Basically it's your base plus a rough estimate of the amount of work you do in a day. And "work" is defined as "anything that isn't lying down and breathing". Base metabolism is literally only the stuff that keeps you alive, like breathing, digesting, thinking...
User avatar #61 - GIJorge (05/03/2015) [-]
Oh man, thanks!
#19 - gisuar (05/03/2015) [-]
or not moving at all
#2 - drpenguinz (05/02/2015) [-]
thats about what im eating a day
#47 - Common Pepe (05/03/2015) [-]
You are either very swole or very swollen, has to be one or the other if you're downing 4k
#75 - drpenguinz (05/03/2015) [-]
kind of
im 85 kg and im doin sports
4k got almost normal for me ^^
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