WoD only has 3 raids and only will have 3 raids. highmaul and brf is boring as fuck so the only good one is hfc. and that is only around 1/3 of the bosses.

tell me again how this is better than wotlk which had incredible fun raids, and lots of them?

"There are plenty of terrible decisions". The low amount of raids is one thing I meant by this.

How fun bosses are is subjective, but I've seen a lot of praise about the raiding content in WoD and few complaints about it. I personally found the majority of bosses in BRF to be enjoyable. Highmaul less so, but still to some degree. Want me to argue opinions with you?

Making only 2 tiers of pve content really wasn't a good idea.

>class balancing
>Blizzard
Pick one.

That's the general consesus, but when you consider it, the game only has very few shitty specs for raiding right now.

I don't personally PVE but what makes it the best it's ever been? If you look back at old end-game bosses the top guild's progressions would be months most of the time. I think the current one was taken down in under a week. And what quality of life changes? Seems there are countless bugs that never get patched.

Well WoD didn't have any mathematically impossible fights, unlike vanilla WoW for starters. I personally just downed mythic Archimonde about a week back so I 'finished' the expansion entirely. That fight was undeniably more intense than anything Vanilla WoW and BC had, and that's saying a lot because I cleared pre-nerf Sunwell.

Granted I'm talking about mythic content. I believe normal/heroic is what got slammed in under a week, because like a third to a half of the mechanics simply aren't there, and the numbers are very, very low.

Na, Mythic was downed in less than a week by a the guild <Method> if I remember correctly

www.wowhead.com/news=248349/method-kills-mythic-archimonde-for-world-first

Here's the (very short) news article of the kill with details. You can even see the dated tweet of their kill along with the picture (Jul 16).

Method was in fact world first, but it was most certainly not less than a week. 6.2 patch released on June 23rd. Their mythic kill was after 472 attempts, the last one (kill itself) being on July 16th. That's nearing a month of time.

Yea, you're right I was thinking of a diff boss. My mistake

The bosses are far more fun and varied to be against in terms of mechanics, there are more than 2 difficulties to progress through, the aesthetics of the raids are pretty fantastic, forming groups is far more flexible, and while the top guilds down Mythic difficulty quickly, the raids are still challenging for the more casual players My guild has a hard time killing the latter half of HFC on Heroic ..

And if you want me to list all of the QoL changes from vanilla, I simply can't because there are far too many. Transmogs, far more managable buff interface, cross-server raiding, LFD Although some might argue that this takes away from the social aspect, but you still need to form a group manually for Mythic Dungeons , Heirloom tab, mount tab, pet tab, all of those being shared across the account, and the list can go on if I could be arsed to look them up.

That wouldn't work in practice when looking at how gearing works. What would be the point of it if bosses were always equally tuned?

It barely worked. So few people actually got to experience the content because getting to it was a humongous grind with attunements and gear. They're trying to make it accessible for more people while keeping it difficult for the high-end players.

Making an easier mode so people can "experience the content" is fucking dumb. It takes away any sense of achievement you would actually get from beating a boss that is exactly as hard for everyone else. I got way more sense of achievement beating some boss in Tempest Keep back in the day, than from running flex mode with some random strangers who barely talk. And yes i can do Mythic, but it's basically doing the same bosses over and over again.

I remember when this started with Trial of the Crusader, it already blew my mind back then how they could let us do the same shit over and over again in different 'modes', not forgetting we also had alts to play it in. I expected it to go away but now it exists not only for raids (LFR, normal, heroic, mythic) but ALSO for dungeons (normal, heroic, mythic).

The better way, but also the harder way for Blizzard, would have been to do hardmodes like in Ulduar. Certain events triggering harder fights. I guess this was just too much work to do.

Too bad, because it was a great game at one point. I think the merger with Activision also changed alot tbh.

If Activision made Blizzard take the wisest business path, then perhaps. Again, if the game isn't for you anymore, it just isn't. It's changed and so has the audience, and that's how it goes. You probably know Preach from youtube? He used to be an extremely hardcore WoW player, but now he has to settle for the lower commitment because he has a job, a wife and a kid or two. He wouldn't be able to play the game the same way if it'd still been like TBC.
I personally still find it to be great, but they have to fix their poor planning with the amount of content per expansion, because that was awful in WoD.

Game companies focusing solely on profits is never good for the players. Just look at EA with battlefront, or with any of their games tbh (Sim City also comes to mind), or Activision with their CoD iterations. It's just stupid how they so blatantly try to milk these franchises instead of actually making great games. They have the resources for it, but they rather stick to easy cash formulas.

"The game isn't for you anymore". I've also heard this a 1000 times. The fact that the game changed doesn't mean it's actually better. There's a reason Blizzard lost millions of WoW subscribers in the last years. Catering to casuals just because they keep on playing your game never made a game better.

Maybe you've heard it 1000 times because it's true. The game is better in many aspects, and worse in others. People have gotten tired of the game and quit as a result. It's been more casual with MoP, but it still peaked at 10 million right at WoD launch, so people didn't quite just because it was "easy". Maybe if Blizzard hadn't fucked up with their promises, the 10 million would've stayed. Also, MMOs are simply becoming far less popular than they used to be, so people won't really be looking for them as much as they used to.
And I never said Blizzard is focusing solely on profits, but if there's profit to be had in WoW, it means the game is doing okay. With tripleA titles, it's completely different because people buy it once, play for a few hours then quit, while EA and the likes still got their money. WoW is dependent on subscribers, so if the quality is declining, so will the playerbase, and as a result the profits will decrease. See the pattern here?

Well the playerbase IS declining, so by your reasoning the quality is also declining. This is what i've been trying to say.

It peaked at 10 million again exactly because of the hype Blizz created by saying it would be back like the old days. This in fact proves that millions of people prefer that over the new direction the game went in. Also, Blizzard stated a few months ago that they wouldn't be showing subscriber numbers to the press anymore. I'm pretty sure the game is bleeding players, no reason to do this but to protect stocks from dropping because of declining subscriber numbers.

And what I'm trying to say is that there are many other factors that result in the decline, and I've stated them already.

They weren't just hyping about it being like the old days, people judge things by face value and they saw an orc on the cover, not a panda, so they immediately jumped in. It could've just been a rash decision and people realized the game just isn't for them anymore.

I'll say it again: The game is old, the genre is old, the players are old, everything is getting old. The game still has a ton going for it, but no matter what, lost players will stay lost because they have other things to do.

Well let's hope that the future brings innovation in the MMO genre then.

We'll see whether or not the game dies in Legion.

My prediction is that it'll limp on for some years after legion even, but it'll keep on bleeding until they eventually pull the plug.

>>#20 my last point here. Making Highmaul and Blackrock Foundry deadweight with HFC was a pretty big mistake as they were still fun raids, but there's no reason to do them at all aside from the legendary quest, which the shipyard will cover most of anyway. I would prefer to kill the 30 raid bosses the expansion has instead of just wiping on Xhul's ugly face until we're geared enough to access Mythic.

And there's a bit of speculation that Blizzard is trying to move away from LFR again and just make normal difficulty the gateway for new/ultra casual players. I'd hope so, because pugging is still infinitely better than LFR.

Normal difficulty raiding is still very easy to get into if you're just mildly geared and have researched tactics just a bit.

I guess that makes sense. Pretty sure alot of people quit because it became to casual-oriented, but then again I don't PvE. You can't really deny the numbers when you look at how many subs they lost.

Game's getting old, and as I said in #15, they really fucked up with a lot of aspects in WoD, but if you like raiding and have a good guild, it's still fun. They made 3 great raids in this expansion, but two of them are currently obsolete because of bad decisions on their part.

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np
glad u got it sorted out mate )

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

Damn..
What's your regular monitor's resolution ?

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

That or use Win+P to go to "PC monitor only"

It's better, but my framerate still goes down from ~60 to 30

Damn..
What's your regular monitor's resolution ?

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

Even though doing so should not impact performance drastically, try using the TV alone, see if it fixes the lag.

Turn off my other monitor or plug it off completely?

That or use Win+P to go to "PC monitor only"

It's better, but my framerate still goes down from ~60 to 30

Damn..
What's your regular monitor's resolution ?

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

Glad to learn that it worked.

I'd say the grainy effect is "normal", TVs generally have lower quality panels compared to monitors, but they're not designed for a 2-feet view distance (the average desktop pc setup).
But the performance drop is completely obscure to me the physical size of the screen does not influence the processing power needed in any way
Are you running other screens along with the TV when you're playing ?

Yeah, as mentioned, it's my second monitor. I plan on using one for games and the other for internet browsing.

Even though doing so should not impact performance drastically, try using the TV alone, see if it fixes the lag.

Turn off my other monitor or plug it off completely?

That or use Win+P to go to "PC monitor only"

It's better, but my framerate still goes down from ~60 to 30

Damn..
What's your regular monitor's resolution ?

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

Although everything looks very grainy on the TV and it's strangling my framerate if I make it my primary monitor and play games on it, but my guess is that my computer just has a hard time supporting it.

Glad to learn that it worked.

I'd say the grainy effect is "normal", TVs generally have lower quality panels compared to monitors, but they're not designed for a 2-feet view distance (the average desktop pc setup).
But the performance drop is completely obscure to me the physical size of the screen does not influence the processing power needed in any way
Are you running other screens along with the TV when you're playing ?

Yeah, as mentioned, it's my second monitor. I plan on using one for games and the other for internet browsing.

Even though doing so should not impact performance drastically, try using the TV alone, see if it fixes the lag.

Turn off my other monitor or plug it off completely?

That or use Win+P to go to "PC monitor only"

It's better, but my framerate still goes down from ~60 to 30

Damn..
What's your regular monitor's resolution ?

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

in amd settings you can underscan or overscan the size of the tv
if you have crimson, open up amd settings and go to display, then additional settings and navigate to underscan/overscan settings and play with the slider
if you dont have crimson it should be in catalyst control center
crimson is the new driver suite update fyi. in case ya feel.

>>#45146
I appreciate the effort, though.

a
np
glad u got it sorted out mate )

Also, check the display mode of your tv.
You may have a "screen" or "display" or "size" or something along those lines on your remote, cycle through the modes until you get the right one ("Full" on my TV).

Sometimes the default mode is Cinema or 16:10 or even Zoomed.

Then how else could we feel superior over femenazi central

what gpu do you have? is it dedicated or integrated?

AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600

I'm pretty sure at least the AMD is dedicated. It's been a good while since I got it.

in amd settings you can underscan or overscan the size of the tv
if you have crimson, open up amd settings and go to display, then additional settings and navigate to underscan/overscan settings and play with the slider
if you dont have crimson it should be in catalyst control center
crimson is the new driver suite update fyi. in case ya feel.

>>#45146
I appreciate the effort, though.

a
np
glad u got it sorted out mate )

Also, check the display mode of your tv.
You may have a "screen" or "display" or "size" or something along those lines on your remote, cycle through the modes until you get the right one ("Full" on my TV).

Sometimes the default mode is Cinema or 16:10 or even Zoomed.

no problemo. just went to r/techsupport so i am really done with rude elitist fucks.
pretty sure the procedure is the same on all versions of windows, you may need to click "Advanced display settings/options" in windows 10 so if you go ahead and right click on your desktop > display settings. you should see 2 monitors attached, display 1 and display 2. click on the icon or select your tv from the drop down list. once you've selected your desired display, under resolution try setting it to your tv's native resolution.
if that doesnt work feel free to post again but good luck

Alright, seems it's the same as what I did before. It's already 1920x1080 which is the highest.

what gpu do you have? is it dedicated or integrated?

AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600

I'm pretty sure at least the AMD is dedicated. It's been a good while since I got it.

in amd settings you can underscan or overscan the size of the tv
if you have crimson, open up amd settings and go to display, then additional settings and navigate to underscan/overscan settings and play with the slider
if you dont have crimson it should be in catalyst control center
crimson is the new driver suite update fyi. in case ya feel.

>>#45146
I appreciate the effort, though.

a
np
glad u got it sorted out mate )

Also, check the display mode of your tv.
You may have a "screen" or "display" or "size" or something along those lines on your remote, cycle through the modes until you get the right one ("Full" on my TV).

Sometimes the default mode is Cinema or 16:10 or even Zoomed.

Idk man. His stuff is pretty vanilla compared to a lot of other artists.

It's extremely vanilla, but the art is still great

When I did that, I had to change the options on my TV.
See if your TV has some sort of fit to screen setting.

>>#45145 Welp, went to the TV's menu and changed "picture zoom" from auto to full, and the monitor looks normal. Guess that did the trick.

Although everything looks very grainy on the TV and it's strangling my framerate if I make it my primary monitor and play games on it, but my guess is that my computer just has a hard time supporting it.

Glad to learn that it worked.

I'd say the grainy effect is "normal", TVs generally have lower quality panels compared to monitors, but they're not designed for a 2-feet view distance (the average desktop pc setup).
But the performance drop is completely obscure to me the physical size of the screen does not influence the processing power needed in any way
Are you running other screens along with the TV when you're playing ?

Yeah, as mentioned, it's my second monitor. I plan on using one for games and the other for internet browsing.

Even though doing so should not impact performance drastically, try using the TV alone, see if it fixes the lag.

Turn off my other monitor or plug it off completely?

That or use Win+P to go to "PC monitor only"

It's better, but my framerate still goes down from ~60 to 30

Damn..
What's your regular monitor's resolution ?

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

change the settings for the display in display settings

Could you give me a sort of step-by-step guidance? I'm borderline retarded when it comes to setting up any kind of technology.

no problemo. just went to r/techsupport so i am really done with rude elitist fucks.
pretty sure the procedure is the same on all versions of windows, you may need to click "Advanced display settings/options" in windows 10 so if you go ahead and right click on your desktop > display settings. you should see 2 monitors attached, display 1 and display 2. click on the icon or select your tv from the drop down list. once you've selected your desired display, under resolution try setting it to your tv's native resolution.
if that doesnt work feel free to post again but good luck

Alright, seems it's the same as what I did before. It's already 1920x1080 which is the highest.

what gpu do you have? is it dedicated or integrated?

AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600

I'm pretty sure at least the AMD is dedicated. It's been a good while since I got it.

in amd settings you can underscan or overscan the size of the tv
if you have crimson, open up amd settings and go to display, then additional settings and navigate to underscan/overscan settings and play with the slider
if you dont have crimson it should be in catalyst control center
crimson is the new driver suite update fyi. in case ya feel.

>>#45146
I appreciate the effort, though.

a
np
glad u got it sorted out mate )

Also, check the display mode of your tv.
You may have a "screen" or "display" or "size" or something along those lines on your remote, cycle through the modes until you get the right one ("Full" on my TV).

Sometimes the default mode is Cinema or 16:10 or even Zoomed.

though if you have a 4k display and a gpu that doesnt have support for that you may have a problem

I believe that's something you should ask admin to hide replies of the comments of the users checked as "Hide All".

That would be a godsend.

But nobody talks about his non loli shit do they?

People like to bring up his controversial stuff for the sake of it.

Idk man. His stuff is pretty vanilla compared to a lot of other artists.

It's extremely vanilla, but the art is still great