Jeong Jeong was a bitch though. Pretends to be a master but doesn't manage to see both the destructive and the good side of fire. Fire is life, without fire humans would never survive. Meh, I never liked him.

I was really disappointed how roku came in like bitch im a motherfucking ghost and made the show skip some potentially good parts.

but instead you spend your time on this site of assholes loveable assholes but assholes

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Get google ultron.

Thanks.

Not saying theres anything wrong with that but some people get tired of it and get depressed
or at least i knew some people who couldnt stand that life anymore

sounds dark. elaborate?

its pretty simple, niggas feel useless because they dont have anything else
but no one i know died

No no I dont mean that, I mean maybe they want to kill thelselves because the only they they can do is eating food and play video games

but... whats wrong with that?

Not saying theres anything wrong with that but some people get tired of it and get depressed
or at least i knew some people who couldnt stand that life anymore

sounds dark. elaborate?

its pretty simple, niggas feel useless because they dont have anything else
but no one i know died

>a few cars malfunction and start fires
>whole company is shit

I guess you don't buy Toyotas now because of the acceleration pedal sticking controversy in the Prius a few years ago, right?

It is awesome, but I wouldn't call 267 the range of an average ICE vehicle. My 6.1L V8 gets 430 miles to a 19 gallon tank of gas, my grams 2.0L Elentra gets almost 500 to a 17 gallon tank, etc. Then there is the fact you can't just pull up somewhere and refill the battery in a minute like you can an ICE vehicle. Electric cars are an awesome idea, but we aren't there yet. Can't wait though.

"Volkswagen Group sells passenger cars under the Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen marques; motorcycles under the Ducati brand; and commercial vehicles under the MAN, Scania, Neoplan and Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles marques.[9] It is divided into two primary divisions, the Automotive Division and the Financial Services Division, and has approximately 340 subsidiary companies.[10] The company has operations in approximately 150 countries and operates 100 production facilities across 27 countries. It holds a 19.9% non-controlling shareholding in Suzuki and has two major joint-ventures in China (FAW-Volkswagen and Shanghai Volkswagen)."

Considering porsche makes the fastest hybrid production car on earth I'm sure they're alright.

the 918 is awesome, but in no way will it have the impact on the market that the model s will have.

oh, no. i mean, a million dollar car isn't going to sell an enormous amount of models, but it's basically Porsche's "flagship" it's a display of what they COULD do. Kinda like the Veyron was, for Bugatti, but hopefully they don't overdo it...

Tesla P85D vs Mercedes SLS AMG though?
Both electric but who is superior?

The SLS AMG is not electric

You're thinking of the Electric Drive or E-CELL SLS

The E-CELL is CONSIDERABLY faster than the Tesla, but also has a battery life, under max load, of less than 15 minutes.

is it really that much faster?
Whats the battery life on tesla
and whats this things 0-60
Is there a carExplain?

Well it was made in 2011, so it's a little older, the 0-60 is actually slightly slower (still 3.7 seconds is fast) than the Tesla's 3.2 (though both pale in comparrison to the Nismo GTR's 2.0 second 0-60)

What makes the Electric Drive model so fast is the fact that each wheel is driven by an individual electric motor, although the car weighs 4700 pounds, it can effectively turn on the spot. It'll only do 155 but you'll hit that in under 10 seconds, and you'll be going round corners faster than you thought possible. For 10 minutes until the battery dies, and you have to spend 20 hours (yes, literally 20 hours @ 240 watts) charging it.

It's a novelty supercar (toy) for the super-rich, wher as the tesla is an actual functioning sports-car, that can be used as a daily driver, and has a reasonable price-point.

The AMG was still much faster around the top gear test track.

I just wanted to let you know that no GT-R has ever gone 0-60 in 2.0 except for the AMS Performance Alpha Omega which does it in 1.53 but that doesn't count because it's a GT-R tuned by an aftermarket company with the entire engine rebuilt along with bigger turbos and intercoolers producing 2000 horsepower.

The fastest stock GT-R 0-60 time is 2.8 seconds and that was the 2013 Black Edition tested by Motortrend; the NISMO did it in 2.9, also tested by Motortrend magazine

You're right - The Nismo GTR is, according to Nismo, capable of a 2.0 second 0-60, but supposedly was tuned slower as to improve longevity of the parts.

But hey, they could be talking shit, either way, you're right in that the market Nismo does manage a mere 2.9 (although it feels strange calling that slow)

I dont think a 2 second 0-60 is possible with the amount of power the car has unless it was heavily modified.
I mean 600 horsepower is really not that much, especially considering that the car is heavy for a sports car (3800 lbs). 2 seconds is ridiculously quick. The only car that comes close is the Porsche 918 which does it in 2.2 seconds, but not only is it 100lbs lighter than the GT-R, it also has 287 more horsepower

Changing the tune could go as far as to encompass changing boost and pressure levels, this could, in theory add 50bhp/turbo (reliably) race fuel would help too.

Theoretically, bhp doesnt matter TOO much in a 0-60 time, it's about traction, and torque.

Hence the 918 having such a fast launch, those electric motors lay out an enormous amount of torque, (and pick up the slack between gears) and although there's only a small amount of power to the front wheels, it helps get all the tyres planted, faster.

I'm sceptical too, though. BUT the GTR is a very complex vehicle. I wouldn't be all too surprised if it were possible.

On racing slicks it might be possible. I'm not sure though. 2 seconds is ridiculously quick.

Good shout, or even drag radials.
It's probably possible under super specific circumstances, but I doubt it's realistically replicatable!

Probably not on something that would be able to be daily driven.
The fastest GT-R ever which does 0-60 in 1.53 seconds has a low 7 second quarter mile. So a 2.0 second 0-60 GT-R would still probably have an 8 second quarter mile, and I don't know a lot of 8 second cars that are daily driven

god damn the GTR is so fast

it can seat 5+2 people? are you saying the first 5 arent people? or that it seats 7 people? or the two people are so fat its like they seat 7 but the two take up all the space? what man what?!

5+2 means that the standard version of the car seats 5 people, but there is an option to add 2 more seats in the rear for an additional 2 people.

This is not a new idea; many sports cars from the 90s are considered 2+2's (2 standard seats but also the option to put in a rear row)

i thought thats what it probably meant but i wanted to be silly.

range? Im not quite sure what you mean by that, but if you're saying it can drive as far as an internal combustion engine you're sadly mistaken.

Or well I guess SOME internal combustion engines don't go far, but either way I wouldn't take a tesla on a long road trip.

(not hating on teslas, I think they're fuckin awesome, just they're terrible as long distance cars, only good for around town)

Man if I could afford a Tesla I'd drive nothing else for a long trip.
With a tesla quick recharger network, you can drive coast to coast, recharging takes about 20 minutes, enough time to pee, strech your legs have a cup of coffee.
And best of it, its free. You recharge for free.
How much in gas would you pay for a long trip? Or you can drive for free.

I'll admit that network is more extensive than I thought it was, but you still can't drive from vegas to reno, and that's the long distance drive I personally most often make.

Well, you could, but you'd have to go through California and take a long way around.
But you have a point.
Though its really a matter of time. There are three stations planned to be installed on that route (two on the way and one just out of Reno) in 2016.

nice. Now all we need is for them to add lanes to that road so I don't have to turn into oncoming traffic to pass three semi trucks going 15 under the speed limit.

I don't think even Elon Musk can solve that.

True. Now there's one problem left that I need them to fix: I need to get fuckin loaded so I can justify buying a tesla.

Same problem here.
I have my hopes on Model III, that should be around 35k, considering gas and some green tax credits I think I'll be able to swing that.

ohwow, i thought you were making some obscure pun about NIKOLA tesla. naw but thats pretty rad