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Current medical and mechanical engineering student at American Military university.
Current medical and mechanical engineering student at American Military university.
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|#21 - No one's an atheist in a foxhole either. [+] (18 new replies)||03/07/2014 on Banana||0|
#23 - GEARBOY (03/07/2014) [-]
Funnily enough - your statement is what really clarifies what how fragile the human psyche is. By downvoting dovahben's comment and then throwing in a biological theory. You gave the illusion that his comment is in fact 'false'. So some people joined in and thumped him down too.
#37 - barkingspiders (03/07/2014) [-]
You thumbed him up and you gave the illusion that his comment was in fact "true". So some people joined in and thumped him up too.
See how weak your argument is? Also, even if it was true, the atheist in foxholes argument. So what? That's irrelevant, it tells us nothing about whether or not God exists.
#39 - GEARBOY (03/08/2014) [-]
No that is now how it worked at the time - I thumbed him up because looked passed the illusion and saw that there was nothing wrong with the comment. Moreover, the comment was on a few negative thumbs so I was helping the guy out - even though my thumb would not have really made any difference.
There is nothing wrong with my argument - get it through your head. 'no one is an athiest in a fox hole' ofcourse doesn't prove the existence of god you imbecile. It's just there to act as a last minute hope while you have bullets flying at you. It doesn't necessarily mean the guy will walk out Christian (or <enter religion>).
#36 - takashiminamori (03/07/2014) [-]
Why does it matter whether or not that I downvoted his comment? I downvoted his comment because he is not at all true and somewhat insulting. I didn't give any so called illusion that his statement was false just because I downvoted his comment, you are way overthinking this.
A lot of people turn to some Gods in a panic when their life is in a panic, when the human psyche is intimidated into submission it doesnt always turn to a god. When a child is afraid of the dark, it can go to its teddy bear for comfort, when it comes down to it, it depends on the person.
This whole Atheist in Foxholes argument is really nothing short of disgusting. This irrtates me to no end, because it tries to make a virtue out of preying on people’s weaknesses in order to sell them a lie.
#40 - GEARBOY (03/08/2014) [-]
The individual's comment was based on the concept that there have been many written incidences/ points in life/ moments in history (which you spot alot of in films as well). So you never hear stories where someone has said "yea I was in a fox hole with all my friends getting shot down on either side- this was the perfect moment to disregard the existence of god to have by my side in my hour of need'.
I don't think this is intimidation. To have a religious belief back in the day was a social norm, and as you would except you get more athiests over the years - but seeking help from a god now doesn't necessarily mean you were intimidated in doing so - the 'build up' of praying for one has been still common through the years so in a way they have been 'blended' into our way of thinking - not forced in. I am atheist myself - but when the oppurtunity arrives - I would not mind asking.
I like your teddy bear scenario - but you are forgetting that the child has many options to explore in order to relieve his/her comfort - reach for a teddy bear/ turn on the lights/ search for caregiver etc. Like you said - it depends on the person. But a soldier getting showered on by a hailstorm of bullets and whatnot does not have as many options. Hence the famous quote "God if you're up there, I need your help".
#42 - takashiminamori (03/08/2014) [-]
What I am really saying here is that the Atheist in the foxhole argument cannot be "somewhat" true like you said in 23 because the argument says there is no atheists in fox holes, if there is some, if any atheists in the foxhole then the argument falls flat on its head.
Which is the case.
#43 - GEARBOY (03/08/2014) [-]
Okay I will be honest with you - I did not know that there even existed a written down 'No athiest in a fox hole argument'. Nonetheless - I will stand my ground to a degree.
I agree with you to an extent as to how ridiculous it sounds there literally exists no athiests in a fox hole. But you must understand that this is simply an overstatement based on how many cases you get where someone has mentioned that they had prayed for a god in that situation. If 'not praying for a god and seeking another option' was more popular - it would have been added in into the equation.
Sure you get moments where people have just given up (GG), or did something heroic or wtv - if you listed down all these possible options in order of popularity - seeking help from a god is by far the most preferred.
In regards to the individuals comment - he is basing his statement on a popular "belief" - so he is doing nothing more than merely trying to 'fit in' by sharing a common thought. Had he been not ignorant of the fact that there has been so many critics on the subject matter - he would not have posted it. However, I do not blame him - because people come here to share ideas/ post funny pictures and laugh. Not necessarily spark a debate by posting a picture that would not have been controversial on the face of it - if it had not been pointed out and ridiculed.
Moreover, the poor bastard is also too afraid to stand his ground on the comment he has just made - which goes to show that he does not know what he has done wrong. Because his comment is not subject to mass popular debate.
So you cannot blame him - any more than completely disregarding the foxhole argument. Undeniably though I respect your opinion on the matter - but there is no right or wrong answer or side to the argument.
#44 - takashiminamori (23 hours ago) [-]
There's nothing wrong with a healthy debate now and again and you seem very knowledgeable and at least you are screaming profanities at me or in this case using the awesome might of caps lock.
I do also apologize if I might of seemed a bit rash at the beginning because that whole thing irritates me and that is an actual argument used to prove Gods existance. Irrelvant? Not really because thats one of the whole points of the argument, its what some apologists use, despite how overused it is, to prove their God in a debate, or argument, or bitchfest whatever. Its a really slimey tactic.
I really got nothing else to say on the subject really probably because I cant think correctly because I have a 103.6 fever and maybe I shouldnt be debating 11:30 est at night so goodbyeiloveu
#45 - GEARBOY (23 hours ago) [-]
But I too find it ridiculous as to how it proves the existence of god. A person walking out a foxhole would not automatically walk out a Christian (or <enter religion>). It just acts as 'something' you can rely on to relieve some stress and whatnot.
Anyway, I'm ill too believe or not and browsing the internet at 4:33 am is probably not a good idea Good night.
Gif is irrelevant.
#41 - takashiminamori (03/08/2014) [-]
Whether or not if it had an effect, it's irrelvant to the argument and you can say that with just about any argument, so lets not really dwell on this point.
Let me try to be a bit more clear, I am fully aware that these kinds of things happen and I do not doubt it happens to a lot of people. Hell, I can't even say that it wouldn't happen to me although I've been put in a situation close to that, nothing to do with war, but a life threatening sitation that really shook me up and I can say that God was not even on my mind, but again it depends on the person like you agreed.
The No Atheist in a Fox hole argument argues that in extreme times of stress, fear or intimidation, all people will hope for a higher power. It doesnt argue that some atheists will do this, it argues that all of them will, it argues that it is impossible to be an atheist and be in a foxhole. The entire argument is not only abusurdly false but its also kind of insulting.
Again, I am not saying that no one will do this, like I said before nobody always turn to a God, even in time of war like your Soldier getting showered by bullets and maybe hes pinned down with not too many options. He might say "Welp, GG" Or maybe he might get desperate and try to shoot back just to be riddled with bullets, it doesnt matter how little options you have, not everyone is gonna say the same thing and there are stories like this if you look.
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