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Men tjena. Själv pendlar man till lund var dag. Hur gammal är du ? Går du på gymnasium?
Vad är sjukhusfysik egentligen? Är det sådant där du studerar fysiken bakom apparater som används inom sjukhus?
Så du är 95a eller 94a? Jag är själv 96a.
Så du är 95a eller 94a? Jag är själv 96a.
95a.
Det är 2 år vanlig Universitetsfysik sen tre år med fysiken bakom alla typers röntgen och olika strålbehandlingar för cancer och diverse sjukdomar.
Man blir en licenserad sjukhusfysiker efter 5 års studier.
Så ja du studerar fysik (och teknik) bakom MR, CT, PET, SPECT Gamma osv.
Det är 2 år vanlig Universitetsfysik sen tre år med fysiken bakom alla typers röntgen och olika strålbehandlingar för cancer och diverse sjukdomar.
Man blir en licenserad sjukhusfysiker efter 5 års studier.
Så ja du studerar fysik (och teknik) bakom MR, CT, PET, SPECT Gamma osv.
Hur ser det ut, är själva skolan ansluten till lunds sjukhus eller hur? Då menar jag fysiskt ansluten, att den ligger precis bredvid eller inuti eller något.
Första 2 åren är vid fysicum (fysik institutet)
Sen förflyttas man till onkologhuset som ligger tvärs över gatan från sjukhuset och i nära anslutning till cancerbehandlingsbyggnaden (färglad byggnad med glasväggar)
Där man sedan spenderar de nästa tre åren mellan onkologhuset och cancer/röntgenbyggnaden som tillhör sjukhuset med antingen utbildning, laborationer med kameror och diverse radioaktiva substanser eller praktik.
Sen förflyttas man till onkologhuset som ligger tvärs över gatan från sjukhuset och i nära anslutning till cancerbehandlingsbyggnaden (färglad byggnad med glasväggar)
Där man sedan spenderar de nästa tre åren mellan onkologhuset och cancer/röntgenbyggnaden som tillhör sjukhuset med antingen utbildning, laborationer med kameror och diverse radioaktiva substanser eller praktik.
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falloutsurvivor (08/03/2015) [-]
okay i see it now.....youre a swede
you live in the my little pony land of love and tolerance, and put murderers in halfway houses to 'rehabilitate' them
you live in the my little pony land of love and tolerance, and put murderers in halfway houses to 'rehabilitate' them
I'm responding here because it's become a ***********
@50
>And that's not to say everyone will go vegan overnight. Veganism will grow slowly.
We can say it won't happen if the world goes vegan because we can already measure the resources that will go into crops. the resources that go into meat is wildly inefficient. the resources that go into crops are provably, measurably, sustainable.
what's more, the crops we grow for cows and such are already wildly overgrown. we put resources into them. We will stop putting said resources in if we stop growing them.
@51
veganbodybuilding.com/
It's also provable we don't need supplement in a vegan diet. In fact it's been shown vegans get more than adequate protein intake. you can get everything you need from a vegan diet with moderate planning, as shown by lifelong vegans, vegan atheletes, so on and so forth. it's the opinion of many professional medical outlet that vegan diets are fine for all walks of life
in fact the conservative American Dietetic Association acknowledges "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
At most, we would need b12 pills but even then we don't need that if we grow the right crops.
@50
>And that's not to say everyone will go vegan overnight. Veganism will grow slowly.
We can say it won't happen if the world goes vegan because we can already measure the resources that will go into crops. the resources that go into meat is wildly inefficient. the resources that go into crops are provably, measurably, sustainable.
what's more, the crops we grow for cows and such are already wildly overgrown. we put resources into them. We will stop putting said resources in if we stop growing them.
@51
veganbodybuilding.com/
It's also provable we don't need supplement in a vegan diet. In fact it's been shown vegans get more than adequate protein intake. you can get everything you need from a vegan diet with moderate planning, as shown by lifelong vegans, vegan atheletes, so on and so forth. it's the opinion of many professional medical outlet that vegan diets are fine for all walks of life
in fact the conservative American Dietetic Association acknowledges "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
At most, we would need b12 pills but even then we don't need that if we grow the right crops.
The highest protein source I found for non meat product was at 39% for soybeans, one of the most pesticide ridden crops in all the world, where they cut down trees in south america to grow more. And moreover infants can't live on vegan diets they need meat no matter how you put it, because they grow. Otherwise they become malnourished.
We deforest for soybean crops because we grow them to feed animals.
what's more, how much protein the crop has by itself is irrelevant. the question was can we have adequate vegan diets. and the answer is provably, yes. in fact many americans get too much protein.
what's more, what are you basing your idea that you can't feed infants vegan off of? A few articles about vegan parents that had malnourished kids? that's mere annecdote. I wouldn't say omnivorous diets malnourish infants because a few omnivore parents had malnourished kids.
There are ways to feed infants vegan. Again, with adequate planning, as you would need with an omnivore diet.
www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.php
what's more, how much protein the crop has by itself is irrelevant. the question was can we have adequate vegan diets. and the answer is provably, yes. in fact many americans get too much protein.
what's more, what are you basing your idea that you can't feed infants vegan off of? A few articles about vegan parents that had malnourished kids? that's mere annecdote. I wouldn't say omnivorous diets malnourish infants because a few omnivore parents had malnourished kids.
There are ways to feed infants vegan. Again, with adequate planning, as you would need with an omnivore diet.
www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.php
I wasn't talking about the animal crop, I was talking about the crop humans eat has 39% protein. And judging by the article, it's mentioned that they should take soy formula.
www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/why-soy-formula-even-organic-is-so-dangerous-for-babies/
They NEED protein it's non debatable, they don't need a balanced diet, they need an increasing diet to sustain their growth.
And yes a simple case does not mean the whole group is the same. And that many people get too much protein, I won't argue that because it's true, I mentioned earlier about wanting to decrease the need on meat, which we should it's both a massive waste in the industry aswell as we eat too much, but we shouldn't eliminate it from our diets. Having non meat days is fine, I see no reason as to why you can't cut down on meat that way.
www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/why-soy-formula-even-organic-is-so-dangerous-for-babies/
They NEED protein it's non debatable, they don't need a balanced diet, they need an increasing diet to sustain their growth.
And yes a simple case does not mean the whole group is the same. And that many people get too much protein, I won't argue that because it's true, I mentioned earlier about wanting to decrease the need on meat, which we should it's both a massive waste in the industry aswell as we eat too much, but we shouldn't eliminate it from our diets. Having non meat days is fine, I see no reason as to why you can't cut down on meat that way.
And the question of simply 'cutting down' on meat brings us back to the question of
1) can we justify hurting animals unnecessarily
[which many people agree and say no]
2) should we really continue to eat meat when it's currently contributing more to global warming than all forms of transportation combined?
1) can we justify hurting animals unnecessarily
[which many people agree and say no]
2) should we really continue to eat meat when it's currently contributing more to global warming than all forms of transportation combined?
1) No, we can't justify it. but we can do it so that it doesn't feel unnecessary pain.
2) www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/global.html, We can cut down by alot. But we shouldn't eliminate it.
2) www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/global.html, We can cut down by alot. But we shouldn't eliminate it.
it's impossible to kill an animal without it feeling pain. to suggest an animal doesn't value it's life is irrational. it's like suggesting an animal with eyes doesn't have an interest in seeing. Can we likewise suggest a human being with the mentality of a cow [or equivalent too] wouldn't be suffering if we killed it?
We should very much eliminate it. Switching to a vegan diet is actually more of an environmentally contribution than buying an smart car
We should very much eliminate it. Switching to a vegan diet is actually more of an environmentally contribution than buying an smart car
Animals suffer regardless if we stop eating meat or not and they will suffer a different pain if we choose to stop eating them. They will die neglected instead, does that shift the burden of responsibility to something else?, I stick with the idea we should make it more humane, but to suggest it's strictly bad to kill for meat is something many carnivores disagrees about.
Also, again thank you for actually partaking in a fruitful discussion rather than shutting your ears and screeching 'bacon'
that puts you head and shoulders above many people here.
that puts you head and shoulders above many people here.
Humans will suffer regardless of our own interference. Why shouldn't we still act to minimize human suffer?
Animals needn't suffer at our hands if we don't demand their meat, so why not seize demanding meat?
Also, again, carnivores are irrelevant. We don't refer to the lions in terms of any social or moral behavior. Humans are omnivores. Not carnivores.
Animals needn't suffer at our hands if we don't demand their meat, so why not seize demanding meat?
Also, again, carnivores are irrelevant. We don't refer to the lions in terms of any social or moral behavior. Humans are omnivores. Not carnivores.
I wasn't arguing they didn't need protein.
Again, it wasn't a question of how much protein it has, the question was can we have adequate vegan diets. and the answer is yes
I wasn't debating as to whether they needed protein. you said infants can't be vegan. i went out of my way to show otherwise.
It's not a question of the diet, it's a question of making sure the infant gets adequate nutrition, which they can with a vegan diet.
Again, it wasn't a question of how much protein it has, the question was can we have adequate vegan diets. and the answer is yes
I wasn't debating as to whether they needed protein. you said infants can't be vegan. i went out of my way to show otherwise.
It's not a question of the diet, it's a question of making sure the infant gets adequate nutrition, which they can with a vegan diet.
The thing is, you can't exchange protein with more food, just because you can find other sources doesn't mean the baby can just take a larger amount of food. Yet alone process it. I never suggested you thought they didn't need protein, but vegan food doesn't give adequate nutrition for the amount a baby usually eats to satisfy it's needs.
Also, i need to go to work. I'm happy to respond to whatever you say when I get back.
this has been a lot more fruitful of a discussion than most and you seem mostly rational about this [which isn't a shot against you. I had the same mentality. i didn't want to give up my sushi]
this has been a lot more fruitful of a discussion than most and you seem mostly rational about this [which isn't a shot against you. I had the same mentality. i didn't want to give up my sushi]
Earlier you suggested
>They need an increasing diet to sustain their growth.
Unless I'm misreading what you're saying
Also, you seem to keep pressing that you simply can't have vegan infants.
www.veganhealth.org/articles/realveganchildren
>They need an increasing diet to sustain their growth.
Unless I'm misreading what you're saying
Also, you seem to keep pressing that you simply can't have vegan infants.
www.veganhealth.org/articles/realveganchildren
