I fear they have already spilled over to Europe as well. God knows when we will see the first of them here in Germany.

That sounds horrible, I wouldn't know what I'd have done in your situation but If I were you I'd not forgive my father.

Oh, don't you worry, I haven't. And hopefully you don't ever get them in Germany. Some of my best friends come from Germany.

Hoorah for a peaceful resolution! I thought for sure you two would be at eachothers throats for a while.

Nah, unless they're dicks, people don't stay fighting with me for long generally. I'm a pretty nice guy. I just get a bit over defensive over my ideals.

No, the original KH Sephiroth. KH2 Sephiroth is a pussy.

Ice field....

I may be getting them mixed.

In KH2 it was after the battle of a thousand heartless up on the cliff. KH1 it was in Olympia.

Somehow I had more problem with 2.... 1 was easy, he had a pattern for one....

Forced by whom, if I may ask?

>The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Only in America, my friend.

I've seen english femnazi bitches argue that point too. Forced by my dad, actually. I was 17 and my dad found out I was having sex, so since he still had the legal ability to make medical decisions for me, he decided to make sure I couldn't for a while.

I fear they have already spilled over to Europe as well. God knows when we will see the first of them here in Germany.

That sounds horrible, I wouldn't know what I'd have done in your situation but If I were you I'd not forgive my father.

Oh, don't you worry, I haven't. And hopefully you don't ever get them in Germany. Some of my best friends come from Germany.

Hoorah for a peaceful resolution! I thought for sure you two would be at eachothers throats for a while.

Nah, unless they're dicks, people don't stay fighting with me for long generally. I'm a pretty nice guy. I just get a bit over defensive over my ideals.

One thing is done to protect the kid from disease.
One is done for mostly personal reasons like "it looks better"

Wat.
So wait, lemme get this straight.
Because I want boys to be able to decide for themselves what is done to their dick, I am a Feminist?

No one ever forced you to go through this, so you at least could make the decision for yourself and have noone else to blame after it's done.
I won't even adress the vaccination point, that one's beyond stupid, even for a ponyfag.

Wow...
1, not a ponyfag. I think it's a good show, I like the music. Do I fuck pony dolls or draw pony porn? No. NOT a ponyfag. If liking the show makes me a brony, then fine. I'll suffer being a brony to be a good dad.
2, There are male feminist out there and that was a reasonable assumption, but it was mostly a joke.
3, Actually, I was forced to go through it, so I don't want to hear that bullshit.
4, The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Forced by whom, if I may ask?

>The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Only in America, my friend.

I've seen english femnazi bitches argue that point too. Forced by my dad, actually. I was 17 and my dad found out I was having sex, so since he still had the legal ability to make medical decisions for me, he decided to make sure I couldn't for a while.

I fear they have already spilled over to Europe as well. God knows when we will see the first of them here in Germany.

That sounds horrible, I wouldn't know what I'd have done in your situation but If I were you I'd not forgive my father.

Oh, don't you worry, I haven't. And hopefully you don't ever get them in Germany. Some of my best friends come from Germany.

Hoorah for a peaceful resolution! I thought for sure you two would be at eachothers throats for a while.

Nah, unless they're dicks, people don't stay fighting with me for long generally. I'm a pretty nice guy. I just get a bit over defensive over my ideals.

Ah, right. Should have figured but you threw me off there with the second message, thought I had the wrong guess. But ha! I guess if you've gotta go, might as well go out with an epic funeral, funded by the asshats who caused it, yeah? Poetic justice!

Exactly.

You ever get sandblasted in the dick? The foreskin is there for a natural reason; protection. It's designed to offer at least SOME protection between 4000 nerve endings and whatever fucking hates you at the moment. The sanitation issue doesn't make sense to me. Pull the foreskin back and it is just as easy to clean as if it wasn't there, so someone snipping it for the reason of hygiene is either a vindictive liar or complete idiot. What's so great about having a foreskin? I have a natural protection for the most sensitive part of my body as well as the freedom of whether or not to cut it.

If only us humans evolved far enough to invent some sort of wrap for your legs to shield the blasting of the sand.
Oh wait, they call those pants.
Seriously, we all have the natural gene that creates cancer cells but I really don't think that's for they greater good.

Difference, of course, being that cancer is harmful, yet a foreskin isn't. I think cut guys who see uncut as "beneath them" are just pissed that they didn't have the choice or something. It's advantage may be completely negligible in our current age of pants, but it's "drawbacks" are even more so.

Unless it was at risk at developing into paraphimosis... you couldve kept it....

Yeah, I don't get that argument. I've never heard of a circumcised man complaining about it not feeling good or anything. The only way I can imagine that is if they somehow botch the job up and do severe nerve damage. And yeah, I've heard the same thing from women, that they prefer circumcised. I mean, most will say they don't care, but I've yet to see any of them say they prefer the foreskin.

As a reply to our above topic, that sucks. The infection down there got him? That's pretty brutal. And honestly I don't have any idea where it would have come from. I can only guess an STD? Honestly that's the only kinda genital infections I can think of, but it's not really the first thing I'd assume from an elderly man.

No... because it wasn't cleaned properly, it got infected. Luckily for him, he had a half million dollar funeral thanks to the oh-so-generous nursing home.

Ah, right. Should have figured but you threw me off there with the second message, thought I had the wrong guess. But ha! I guess if you've gotta go, might as well go out with an epic funeral, funded by the asshats who caused it, yeah? Poetic justice!

Exactly.

Wel lhey, if Im senile, I won't remember, let alone give a damn. IF I go senile. Who knows if I'll die before my mind deteriorates to that degree.

Well, I hope you don't get senile as well, nomatter the age Honestly, what's so great about being uncut though?

You ever get sandblasted in the dick? The foreskin is there for a natural reason; protection. It's designed to offer at least SOME protection between 4000 nerve endings and whatever fucking hates you at the moment. The sanitation issue doesn't make sense to me. Pull the foreskin back and it is just as easy to clean as if it wasn't there, so someone snipping it for the reason of hygiene is either a vindictive liar or complete idiot. What's so great about having a foreskin? I have a natural protection for the most sensitive part of my body as well as the freedom of whether or not to cut it.

If only us humans evolved far enough to invent some sort of wrap for your legs to shield the blasting of the sand.
Oh wait, they call those pants.
Seriously, we all have the natural gene that creates cancer cells but I really don't think that's for they greater good.

Difference, of course, being that cancer is harmful, yet a foreskin isn't. I think cut guys who see uncut as "beneath them" are just pissed that they didn't have the choice or something. It's advantage may be completely negligible in our current age of pants, but it's "drawbacks" are even more so.

Unless it was at risk at developing into paraphimosis... you couldve kept it....

I would bcuz i dont live in a third world shithole

or
or
or you wait until they are old enough to make such a personal decision for themselves, like a reasonable human being.

FOUND THE FEMINIST!

As someone who had to go through that... FUCK THAT! It's more of a painful and traumatic experience going through that as an adult. Next you're going to be arguing that you should wait for a child to grow up and decide if they want the pain of their immunizations or tetanus shot. Fuck you and your liberalist agenda.

One thing is done to protect the kid from disease.
One is done for mostly personal reasons like "it looks better"

Wat.
So wait, lemme get this straight.
Because I want boys to be able to decide for themselves what is done to their dick, I am a Feminist?

No one ever forced you to go through this, so you at least could make the decision for yourself and have noone else to blame after it's done.
I won't even adress the vaccination point, that one's beyond stupid, even for a ponyfag.

Wow...
1, not a ponyfag. I think it's a good show, I like the music. Do I fuck pony dolls or draw pony porn? No. NOT a ponyfag. If liking the show makes me a brony, then fine. I'll suffer being a brony to be a good dad.
2, There are male feminist out there and that was a reasonable assumption, but it was mostly a joke.
3, Actually, I was forced to go through it, so I don't want to hear that bullshit.
4, The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Forced by whom, if I may ask?

>The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Only in America, my friend.

I've seen english femnazi bitches argue that point too. Forced by my dad, actually. I was 17 and my dad found out I was having sex, so since he still had the legal ability to make medical decisions for me, he decided to make sure I couldn't for a while.

I fear they have already spilled over to Europe as well. God knows when we will see the first of them here in Germany.

That sounds horrible, I wouldn't know what I'd have done in your situation but If I were you I'd not forgive my father.

Oh, don't you worry, I haven't. And hopefully you don't ever get them in Germany. Some of my best friends come from Germany.

Hoorah for a peaceful resolution! I thought for sure you two would be at eachothers throats for a while.

Nah, unless they're dicks, people don't stay fighting with me for long generally. I'm a pretty nice guy. I just get a bit over defensive over my ideals.

No one would ever choose it on their own. I'm circumcised, I like it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to do it myself. I'd surely regret it later, however. So I'm thankful my parents chose for me.

Go check the internet, there are actually many people who decide to do it later in their lifes, for whatever reason.

The thing is, you can't really expect your children to accept that you choose for them. It's something they gotta live with forever, so I think they at least deserve a say in this.

The only reason I can think of to do it around my age is if a love partner convinces you to [not saying it's a bad thing, sacrifices are made in the name of love], or if it becomes a health issue early on.

I'm not against giving them the choice, as I said above. Either way, if you keep it clean, it's cool. But sometimes shit happens, y'know? So cut it, don't cut it, I'm just happy mine was snipped up. Because I sure as shit do not want to ever utter the words, "Doctor, I think we're gonna have to cut my dick." That lives with you just as long. Lmao. Plus, as a baby, you don't remember it. You're too busy puking on things.

SO, pro choice, preferred snip, and I accept our differences in the opinion. May your possible future children enjoy their foreskin and the choice to cut it off.

What kind of 'shit that could happen' are you talking about? You don't see men just going "damn, washing my dick sure takes 2 minutes every day, I can't afford to waste that time and will just stop."

I don't really get the logic behind your statement, you are effectively saying that because you could theoretically one day stop washing yourself properly, you better cut it away in advance, because pulling back skin sure is such a hard task to perform?

And it's cool that you like being cut and all, just remember, there are people, like me, that don't like it that much, but were never asked to begin with.

No, no! It's not about hygiene, that's not my argument. Dhark brought up a good example, about how their grandfather was in the nursing home and the nurses didn't wash under the foreskin for him, and he got a bad infection. That's the sort of shit that I mean.

Ah, okay.
Yeah, I am aware that there are advantages to it, of course, though imo in that case it's more the fault of the nurses not doing their work properly.

Whole reason I'm kinda against parents deciding for their children is because of cases such as comment #187, or myself. When you later ask your parents why they did get you circumcised and you hear excuses like "da gurls prefer it lel" you can get a bit pissed off. You feel me?

Oh absolutely. I can understand where you're coming from. If you're going to modify your body for the sake of someone elses preference, it's better for it to be your call and not your parents. I obviously can't relate as well as you can, since I enjoy it, but I can still see your point.

I'm just happy I don't have to make that call myself, kids aren't my thing.

Also, I hope your grandfather is doing better now. Getting old is hard enough without being neglected and getting infections in sensitive places like that.

And yes the infection was where you think it came from.

He got a bad infection that he couldn't beat. This whole thing was just over 10 years ago though, so I'm fine now.

-hugs- Yeah, that is certainly a good idea. Sure, at a young age we don't seem to care either way. You think whatever you grow up with is normal, as the people here on FJ are showing with their bickering, but when you get old and can't take care of yourself anymore it seems to be a good idea to have it circumcised. If you do have kids, go for it. They're not gonna be upset when they grow up, so I don't see a downside.

I've heard the whole "it takes pleasure from the guy during sex!" argument but in all seriousness.... It's felt good my whole life and I didn't notice that much of a change, so wtf are people bitching about? It's easier to keep clean, sex is still fucking great, and I've noticed more girls seem to prefer the appearance of a cut man than uncut.

Yeah, I don't get that argument. I've never heard of a circumcised man complaining about it not feeling good or anything. The only way I can imagine that is if they somehow botch the job up and do severe nerve damage. And yeah, I've heard the same thing from women, that they prefer circumcised. I mean, most will say they don't care, but I've yet to see any of them say they prefer the foreskin.

As a reply to our above topic, that sucks. The infection down there got him? That's pretty brutal. And honestly I don't have any idea where it would have come from. I can only guess an STD? Honestly that's the only kinda genital infections I can think of, but it's not really the first thing I'd assume from an elderly man.

No... because it wasn't cleaned properly, it got infected. Luckily for him, he had a half million dollar funeral thanks to the oh-so-generous nursing home.

Ah, right. Should have figured but you threw me off there with the second message, thought I had the wrong guess. But ha! I guess if you've gotta go, might as well go out with an epic funeral, funded by the asshats who caused it, yeah? Poetic justice!

Exactly.

>Implying a sheath of skin determines one's mental fortitude.

Next thing we know, you'll be saying one's average fingernail length is a direct determining factor of autism.

Where did I imply that?! People get senile when they get old, it's common. I'm not saying your foreskin's going to cause that. What I'm saying is, when yuo're old and senile and can't care for yourself and that dick nurse at the nursing home you live in decides it's too nasty cleaning under your foreskin so they just won't deal with it... will you think being uncut is so great?

Wel lhey, if Im senile, I won't remember, let alone give a damn. IF I go senile. Who knows if I'll die before my mind deteriorates to that degree.

Well, I hope you don't get senile as well, nomatter the age Honestly, what's so great about being uncut though?

You ever get sandblasted in the dick? The foreskin is there for a natural reason; protection. It's designed to offer at least SOME protection between 4000 nerve endings and whatever fucking hates you at the moment. The sanitation issue doesn't make sense to me. Pull the foreskin back and it is just as easy to clean as if it wasn't there, so someone snipping it for the reason of hygiene is either a vindictive liar or complete idiot. What's so great about having a foreskin? I have a natural protection for the most sensitive part of my body as well as the freedom of whether or not to cut it.

If only us humans evolved far enough to invent some sort of wrap for your legs to shield the blasting of the sand.
Oh wait, they call those pants.
Seriously, we all have the natural gene that creates cancer cells but I really don't think that's for they greater good.

Difference, of course, being that cancer is harmful, yet a foreskin isn't. I think cut guys who see uncut as "beneath them" are just pissed that they didn't have the choice or something. It's advantage may be completely negligible in our current age of pants, but it's "drawbacks" are even more so.

Unless it was at risk at developing into paraphimosis... you couldve kept it....

I would bcuz i dont live in a third world shithole

Ah, sorry, I wasn't even considering the elderly. That's horrible though. When they took that job they knew they'd have to be cleaning in personal places like that, there's no excuse not to. I used to work in an ecumenical home, but not as a nurse, though I knew from watching them in the dining room that they didn't much care. One resident choked because the nurse was too busy texting to feed them properly. Yeah, she didn't stay long after that.

*offers a hug* Nursing homes need more people like you who will actually do their job. Honestly, That's the only reason I would have my kids circumsized if I had had any boys.

or
or
or you wait until they are old enough to make such a personal decision for themselves, like a reasonable human being.

FOUND THE FEMINIST!

As someone who had to go through that... FUCK THAT! It's more of a painful and traumatic experience going through that as an adult. Next you're going to be arguing that you should wait for a child to grow up and decide if they want the pain of their immunizations or tetanus shot. Fuck you and your liberalist agenda.

One thing is done to protect the kid from disease.
One is done for mostly personal reasons like "it looks better"

Wat.
So wait, lemme get this straight.
Because I want boys to be able to decide for themselves what is done to their dick, I am a Feminist?

No one ever forced you to go through this, so you at least could make the decision for yourself and have noone else to blame after it's done.
I won't even adress the vaccination point, that one's beyond stupid, even for a ponyfag.

Wow...
1, not a ponyfag. I think it's a good show, I like the music. Do I fuck pony dolls or draw pony porn? No. NOT a ponyfag. If liking the show makes me a brony, then fine. I'll suffer being a brony to be a good dad.
2, There are male feminist out there and that was a reasonable assumption, but it was mostly a joke.
3, Actually, I was forced to go through it, so I don't want to hear that bullshit.
4, The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Forced by whom, if I may ask?

>The vaccination point is actually one that comes up more than you would think but I was being sarcastic and annoyed.

Only in America, my friend.

I've seen english femnazi bitches argue that point too. Forced by my dad, actually. I was 17 and my dad found out I was having sex, so since he still had the legal ability to make medical decisions for me, he decided to make sure I couldn't for a while.

I fear they have already spilled over to Europe as well. God knows when we will see the first of them here in Germany.

That sounds horrible, I wouldn't know what I'd have done in your situation but If I were you I'd not forgive my father.

Oh, don't you worry, I haven't. And hopefully you don't ever get them in Germany. Some of my best friends come from Germany.

Hoorah for a peaceful resolution! I thought for sure you two would be at eachothers throats for a while.

Nah, unless they're dicks, people don't stay fighting with me for long generally. I'm a pretty nice guy. I just get a bit over defensive over my ideals.

No one would ever choose it on their own. I'm circumcised, I like it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to do it myself. I'd surely regret it later, however. So I'm thankful my parents chose for me.

Go check the internet, there are actually many people who decide to do it later in their lifes, for whatever reason.

The thing is, you can't really expect your children to accept that you choose for them. It's something they gotta live with forever, so I think they at least deserve a say in this.

The only reason I can think of to do it around my age is if a love partner convinces you to [not saying it's a bad thing, sacrifices are made in the name of love], or if it becomes a health issue early on.

I'm not against giving them the choice, as I said above. Either way, if you keep it clean, it's cool. But sometimes shit happens, y'know? So cut it, don't cut it, I'm just happy mine was snipped up. Because I sure as shit do not want to ever utter the words, "Doctor, I think we're gonna have to cut my dick." That lives with you just as long. Lmao. Plus, as a baby, you don't remember it. You're too busy puking on things.

SO, pro choice, preferred snip, and I accept our differences in the opinion. May your possible future children enjoy their foreskin and the choice to cut it off.

What kind of 'shit that could happen' are you talking about? You don't see men just going "damn, washing my dick sure takes 2 minutes every day, I can't afford to waste that time and will just stop."

I don't really get the logic behind your statement, you are effectively saying that because you could theoretically one day stop washing yourself properly, you better cut it away in advance, because pulling back skin sure is such a hard task to perform?

And it's cool that you like being cut and all, just remember, there are people, like me, that don't like it that much, but were never asked to begin with.

No, no! It's not about hygiene, that's not my argument. Dhark brought up a good example, about how their grandfather was in the nursing home and the nurses didn't wash under the foreskin for him, and he got a bad infection. That's the sort of shit that I mean.

Ah, okay.
Yeah, I am aware that there are advantages to it, of course, though imo in that case it's more the fault of the nurses not doing their work properly.

Whole reason I'm kinda against parents deciding for their children is because of cases such as comment #187, or myself. When you later ask your parents why they did get you circumcised and you hear excuses like "da gurls prefer it lel" you can get a bit pissed off. You feel me?

Oh absolutely. I can understand where you're coming from. If you're going to modify your body for the sake of someone elses preference, it's better for it to be your call and not your parents. I obviously can't relate as well as you can, since I enjoy it, but I can still see your point.

I'm just happy I don't have to make that call myself, kids aren't my thing.

Also, I hope your grandfather is doing better now. Getting old is hard enough without being neglected and getting infections in sensitive places like that.

And yes the infection was where you think it came from.

He got a bad infection that he couldn't beat. This whole thing was just over 10 years ago though, so I'm fine now.

-hugs- Yeah, that is certainly a good idea. Sure, at a young age we don't seem to care either way. You think whatever you grow up with is normal, as the people here on FJ are showing with their bickering, but when you get old and can't take care of yourself anymore it seems to be a good idea to have it circumcised. If you do have kids, go for it. They're not gonna be upset when they grow up, so I don't see a downside.

I've heard the whole "it takes pleasure from the guy during sex!" argument but in all seriousness.... It's felt good my whole life and I didn't notice that much of a change, so wtf are people bitching about? It's easier to keep clean, sex is still fucking great, and I've noticed more girls seem to prefer the appearance of a cut man than uncut.

Yeah, I don't get that argument. I've never heard of a circumcised man complaining about it not feeling good or anything. The only way I can imagine that is if they somehow botch the job up and do severe nerve damage. And yeah, I've heard the same thing from women, that they prefer circumcised. I mean, most will say they don't care, but I've yet to see any of them say they prefer the foreskin.

As a reply to our above topic, that sucks. The infection down there got him? That's pretty brutal. And honestly I don't have any idea where it would have come from. I can only guess an STD? Honestly that's the only kinda genital infections I can think of, but it's not really the first thing I'd assume from an elderly man.

No... because it wasn't cleaned properly, it got infected. Luckily for him, he had a half million dollar funeral thanks to the oh-so-generous nursing home.

Ah, right. Should have figured but you threw me off there with the second message, thought I had the wrong guess. But ha! I guess if you've gotta go, might as well go out with an epic funeral, funded by the asshats who caused it, yeah? Poetic justice!

Exactly.

why is that so common?

Jokexplain has no power here, you fool

I think someone just challenged jokexplain!

why is that so common?