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#25 - cupcake in Australia.  [+] (1 new reply) 04/15/2015 on that time PSY poo fingered... 0
User avatar #30 - theugandanhero (04/15/2015) [-]
wow for some reason I really hate cupcakes now
#26 - if you want a serious debate, then start. what is your topic a…  [+] (12 new replies) 04/15/2015 on More great... +2
#28 - kanedam (04/15/2015) [-]
Not going to sell anything. My point was that its annoying that so many people argue on both sides without really stating the slightest facts or knowledge. both are just repeating theyr dogma and opinion without scientific backup.

Just interested in that topic (which would of course be vaccines pro/con with the context) generally to find my own opinion on that question.
User avatar #131 - mistercookie (04/15/2015) [-]
Two objective sources on vaccines and the antivaxxer thing:



Here is one side for vaccinations, notice the use of scientific evidence, research and medical knowledge:

This side is against, notice the anecdotal evidence

If you don't know both sides' arguments by now and don't know the facts and knowledge being used then you really need to read up.
#132 - kanedam (04/15/2015) [-]
look at my comment #123
the only thing used as anti-vax is that autism bullshit while there are enough scientific works about it.
User avatar #133 - mistercookie (04/15/2015) [-]
Yeah, but I replied to the comment that you don't know what facts and arguments both sides present (Vaxxers vs. anti-vaxxers, not inside the medical community). The links I provided do that, although to get a better overview you should look for more than just those 4 links.
#137 - kanedam (04/15/2015) [-]
ah sorry, it seems i was misunderstood.

as someone who tries to inform himself about that topic (and where else should one do it than in the medical field?) i think BOTH sides (you call them "vaxxers/anti-vaxxers") dont hold up to the standards of a serious discussion.
its an important topic and i think it should be spoken of properly, with the pros and cons getting stated. almost no anti-vaxxer knows anything about vaccinations and spouts that autism bullshit (at least it seems to me on the internet like that) and all the pro-vaccination people just state "its scientific consens thats its great and healthy!" while that isnt 100% true either.

thank you for the effort! i know the arguments of both sides stated like that, i just was annoyed at it again and wanted to point it out. i have that small hope that at least one or two people will be motivated to research that topic seriously when i point out how wrong the arguments of both sides are... but i'm used to getting showered in red thumbs for it or comments like "you are wrongs, we are right. its that easy!" while i havent stated if i'm pro or anti in any of my comments so far...
User avatar #142 - mistercookie (04/15/2015) [-]
Don't worry about it.

Im a first year medical student and this topic comes up... alot... We get to talk to GPs, hospital workers, nurses etc. The arguments the medical community uses for vaccines is the same as the anti-vaxxers and that argument is basically "Vaccines are so much better than the alternative", not that it doesn't come with risks and complications, but 1/1000 having problems from a vaccine is still preferable to 10/1000 dying from a preventable disease. I pulled the numbers pulled out of my ass but you get the point. Apart from that its more about research to prove this or that isnt caused by vaccines.

You do know the term herd immunity i presume.
User avatar #148 - mistercookie (04/15/2015) [-]
Same as the vaxxers, not anti-vaccers
#147 - kanedam (04/15/2015) [-]
now thats what i like to hear... thats some serious talking. no bullshiting or spouting.
you sir earned my respect.

and yeah, of course i know the term. its also one of the arguments for vaccination of course.
i just rmember the case in germany. there were 11.400cases of polio before coutry-wide vaccination was law, after the law came into action 150.000 cases happened.

i would love to have more of the statistics of how many children with vaccines got diseases or negative sideffects and how many kids without the vaccination got serious issues. those are things i think are important too... but tis damn hard to find such informations.
User avatar #152 - mistercookie (04/15/2015) [-]
The only thing I could find on what you are talking about was that the cases of polio in germany jumped from 2275 to ~10000 in 1952 (When the vaccine was first created, not publicly used yet). In 1953 the cases dropped down to around 5000.


If you really want to go to the source and actually look through relevant studies yourself the following website is where I get most of my sources that I use in med-school:


They have a giant database over all medical research, so its a good site to educate yourself on the newest and latest in medicine and health.
#218 - kanedam (04/25/2015) [-]
researched a bit about that topic now.

there seem to be quite a lot of thoughts about the pro/contra vaccine that dont have anything to do with that autism argument. thanks for the source to research it better!
#154 - kanedam (04/15/2015) [-]
you are a good man.

now... why cant more people communicate on such a level? just read through the responses i got... not a single one was a serious proper argumentation. you got my hopes up again. thanks for that.
#35 - drewjitsu (04/15/2015) [-]
If you're interested, google it. The science is overwhelmingly pro-vaccine. Info is abundant.
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User avatar #77 - skulldan (02/12/2015) [-]
hahha, sounds like the stories my grandpa tells me about oldschool Australia

But shit, apprentice making 2 grand a week. Thats pretty sweet
#78 - dawsyy (02/12/2015) [-]
i think it owuld of been more, he was gone for 10 weeks, so it would be just more then 2 grand a week. but yer, it sounds horrible up there.
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