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|#27 - So, they are successful, but you don't like them, therefor rid…||10/27/2014 on Gang Bang Theory||-3|
|#22 - This isn't funny or original. It's plain mean. People that spe… [+] (2 new replies)||10/27/2014 on Gang Bang Theory||-5|
#24 - kaboomz (10/27/2014) [-]
its funny because the show is shit and because of this:
#27 - dantemp (10/27/2014) [-]
So, they are successful, but you don't like them, therefor ridiculing them is funny? You know, I get it. With the likes of Bieber it's easy to make fun of them, because they fuck up every step of the way. Whereas with BBT they do nothing wrong and you have to come up with bullshit excuses to make fun of them. Right, carry on with your butthurt.
|#22 - using the same argument we can start giving nuclear warheads a… [+] (39 new replies)||10/27/2014 on Lazie gun||+26|
#83 - lebarricuda (10/27/2014) [-]
The government wont get rid of nuclear warheads because a bunch of hippies think they are dangerous. They are properly taken care of by people well trained to do so. Just because a bunch of McDonald tier workers think that that is impossible doesn't mean someone is going to steal them or use our own on us.
Also the president can't just be like hurr, fire the nukes. There are more than three individuals with different backgrounds that need to agree.
I thoroughly believe that if we (the US) were to get rid of all of our nukes, we would be attacked in moments.
#54 - anonymous (10/27/2014) [-]
under certain circumstance, you'd be very wrong about that
and even if it didn't detonate, weapons-grade plutonium is still highly radioactive.
#34 - lean (10/27/2014) [-]
You think a law that says you can't have guns is going to stop someone from obtaining a gun once they have already decided to disregard the much more severe law of "don't murder people"? Gun laws do not affect lawbreakers and the mentally unstable. Guess how many suicides are prevented by making suicide illegal? None. Laws are words on paper that only the civilized members of society choose to follow, you cannot legislate away unlawful citizens.
#136 - lean (10/27/2014) [-]
How would they get arrested? door to door searches? That wouldn't fly. Besides, point out the cop who is going to go door to door to take away guns from people who have owned and used them for generations.
Here is the thing- guns used in crime are overwhelmingly illegally gotten. Straw purchasing, crooked FFLs, and robbery is how they get them. The black market for guns is estimated to be almost as large as the legal market. Our current gun laws require a background check for rifles/ shotguns and a waiting period (most states with registration of the firearm) for pistols. The only way you get a gun without it being registered in a database is through private sales. Any laws you add will only make it harder for law abiding citizens to purchase guns. They can't make it illegal to sell guns privately, because there is no way of keeping track of it. The current laws are effective (over 90% according to the ATF) because the people who obtain guns legally are typically not those who are going to commit crimes. Criminals are already breaking laws to obtain firearms. I see what you are saying though, maybe if they pass a law that says " No actually now its really REALLY REALLY illegal to buy guns illegally and use them to commit crimes" people will listen. Maybe they should write it in red too so the criminals see it better.
#162 - admiralen (10/28/2014) [-]
if they make it illegal slowly but surely it will get harder to handle guns, they will get more expensive and faggot muggers wont be able to afford them.
criminal gangs with a gun in their pants get arrested and thus its harder to carry.
im not saying its the perfect solution, im saying it will reduce the amount that can be misused and only people with lots of cash will be able to afford them
#164 - admiralen (10/28/2014) [-]
if its illegal to own without a permit when the cops razzia for drugs and such they can confiscate all the guns as well.
again all im suggesting is just having to prove youre mature enough to own a gun.
if you look at countries with a lot of gun control the gun violence is also a lot lower.
with decent gun control only rich/proffessional people can obtain guns and the muggers and streetrats wont be able too
#55 - Garblestickleshlop (10/27/2014) [-]
Meh, think what you wanna think about guns, but the "lawbreaker will break laws so why make it illegal" excuse is probably the worst pro-gun argument out there. If you go by that argument, why make anything illegal ever? Murder should be legal because killers kill? Theft should be legal because thieves steal? The fact of the matter is, mass shootings would be 99.9% out of the picture if guns were banned. Regular people having guns also only contributes to gang shootings. How many gang shootings have you stopped with your gun? Guns that are supposed to be for protection are rarely protecting. Most of the time, guns are only used for recreational or criminal purposes, or just sitting in a closet somewhere.
#146 - Garblestickleshlop (10/27/2014) [-]
An amendment is a change made to a law. We no longer have slave rights, we could no longer have gun rights. The whole point of us having the right to own guns is now obsolete. There is no way that we could use our guns to take down a bad government with drones and nukes.
#65 - lean (10/27/2014) [-]
Mass shootings are 99.9% out of the picture as it is. You know how many guns are in this country? not even .001% have been used to kill people, let alone "mass shootings".
I did not say laws are pointless, I said that a gun law is redundant and superfluous as an attempt to stop mass shootings. A deranged highschooler is not going to toe the line because guns are illegal when they are planning on killing their classmates. As for banning all guns- do you know how easy it is to get cocaine, pot, or any other illegal drugs in America? We as a country have a self proclaimed war on drugs, which we are loosing badly. Do you think another law would make drugs less available? Ban away, they are still available, and people willing to commit crimes with find and use them. Gun control laws are proven ineffective and pointless.
I may not have stopped any crimes with my guns, but I sure haven't committed any either. The point is if someone has a gun with which they could potentially harm me, I have a right to defend myself in equal measure. That isn't a government given privilege, it is an almost universally recognized right. God given right some would say.
Why does what someone uses to kill a person with need to be "more illegal" than other things? Don't drink the kool-aid, guns don't allow the average person to kill more people more quickly than other weapons. Being deadly against moving targets with guns takes practice, dedication, and discipline, all things notoriously lacking with most crazy people. You can check the range at which people are killed in these mass shootings- 90% point blank to the head/ body execution style.
Also- FBI research link concluding that when the attacker is stopped by a victim/ armed civilian, the average death toll is about 12 people less Per Incident
#148 - Garblestickleshlop (10/27/2014) [-]
Mass shootings are the main thing that a stricter gun law would prevent. Most guns do not hurt anyone, I know that. Do we really need to let so many kids die so that we can let a gun sit in the back of our closet? Or so that we can do some target practice? In a perfect world, we could all safely have our guns. How is some autistic, socially inept teenager going to get in with the black market to get a gun? They just steal them from their parents right now. Not to mention how they could afford it. Prices go way up once something is illegal. The same with drugs, the drugs made available to the common people are extremely diluted. People aren't getting pure cocaine. You can't cut a gun like you can a drug. Gun ownership is a right in an amendment, amendments are not supposed to be permanent. An amendment is literally a change. Other countries have placed stricter gun laws and it has worked well, is America just that much worse than the rest of the world? The strict gun laws that have been place in the US didn't work because they were on too small of a scale. Of course it doesn't work if the next town over doesn't have to follow it. If there is a thick crowd of people, you don't really need good aim to hit someone.
#165 - lean (10/28/2014) [-]
Mass shootings are a thing of proper defense. How do you prevent an unstable youth from obtaining a gun, or making a bomb, or going on a stabbing rampage? These kids in the overwhelming majority use legally owned weapons. It is everywhere in the news. What they don't tell you is they are not legally owned by the shooters in 9 out of 10 cases. It comes from family members or friends, and they borrow or steal the weapons.
Here are FBI "long gun statistic, including assault rifles":
During the time period between 2007 until 2011, there were 8,967 people that were murdered with knives or cutting instruments; during that same time period, there were 3,918 people that were murdered with either rifles or shotguns,”
So people get killed mostly with pistols, which are already regulated and require permits nationwide. Making more than the 230+ pages of existing federal gun laws will not change that
#167 - Garblestickleshlop (10/28/2014) [-]
I answered that, these kids are getting guns from their parents, if the parents didn't have the guns, or at least didn't keep them in their homes, the kids wouldn't have any way of getting the gun. The people doing these shootings are not mentally well and have little to no social abilities. If we had better gun laws, they would not be able to get a gun. It is much easier to hurt a lot of people quickly with a gun that with a knife. Especially if you are a small, awkward adolescent. Gun laws do not have anything to do with knives or bombs and a gun can't stop a bomb anyways. Of course more people were killed with sharp instruments, it takes no thought to kill someone out of anger with a tool right there. That is one of the reasons why it's bad for someone to carry a gun on their person all the time. They have the weapon right there and could end up lashing out in anger or fear, like people do with their fists or any weapon around them usually. I think that it is ridiculous that it is easier to own a gun than it is a car.
#168 - lean (10/28/2014) [-]
So I shouldn't have guns because some kids have shitty parents that leave their guns accessible? Why not make laws prohibiting inept people from having kids? I will not sacrifice my rights so some people feel safer.
If it is obvious to you that more people are killed with sharp instruments, why aren't there laws making them illegal as well?
#169 - Garblestickleshlop (10/29/2014) [-]
Yes, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. The reason we can't prohibit people from birthing children is because sex and procreation are actual human necessities and we are part of a government that takes human necessities into consideration.Without them, humanity would cease to exist. Your right to own a gun is only a governmental right.
It is impossible to make sharp instruments illegal. Not only do we need them to survive, but they exist in the natural world and are easy to make. (A jagged rock or stick, a broken bottle)
#170 - lean (10/29/2014) [-]
“If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel'” -Benjamin Netenyahu
Put it this way, guns are used to protect our government, our county, wealthy citizens, banks, politicians, but not schools. Schools get a sign banning guns. Gun control is the response of a government unwilling to take responsibility for the lack of safety in our public schools, which they are directly responsible for. More people die from slipping in the shower than are killed in gun crime, and people are willing to sacrifice their right to bear arms but not to regulate their bathrooms. It isn't about the actions of a few, it is about principles.
#171 - Garblestickleshlop (10/29/2014) [-]
They don't have to be taken away. They should not be kept in houses or on regular people. As someone who actually lives in a shitty area, the guns are doing nothing to protect anyone around here. You don't have the right to own a gun because, or as long as, someone else has one. You have the right so that in case of an unruly government, you could form an army and take it down. That is obviously not possible anymore. Our government has the strongest military in the world with drones and whatnot.
#174 - Garblestickleshlop (10/29/2014) [-]
Even if majority of the military would ignore their orders, it doesn't take a lot of people to push a button. Uprisings don't usually work like what you are thinking though. It's not an entire country against a force. Even the during the revolution, there was a lot of 50/50. I live in St. Louis, I don't want one, and I couldn't afford a gun if I did want one.
#69 - lean (10/27/2014) [-]
Depends on the method and where- but any involving public (specifically jumping onto subway rails, off buildings etc.) are criminal offenses. Every state also has provisions for detaining, holding, and therapy for attempted suicide or suspect they may attempt suicide. That is for their own protection, but explain the difference between being detained for your own safety and held in a cell and being detained for committing a crime. You can get out quicker as a criminal than you can after being placed on suicide watch.
#155 - dantemp (10/28/2014) [-]
Well, how is this for a difference:
If you are commiting suicide, you are doing either for attention, or more often than not, because you want to kill yourself. If you want to kill yourself, chances are you don't care of anything else.
Now, when you want to kill someone else, you again are having two cases. The first case is that the only thing you care in the world is to kill the guy. In that case it really wouldn't matter what the consequences are. But the much more prevalent case is when the people doing it believe they need to do it to survive. And if the mere possession of the tools for the act may hinder your survival (be convicted, have a stain on your resume, spend time wasting in jail etc), you should think twice.
There are two statistic you should consider, regrettably I can't provide you for source for either. The first is that victims of assault having weapons are much more likely to be hurt then those that don't. And the second is the murder rate in countries with tight weapon control (western Europe) is twice as small as the on in America.
btw the second statistic was in Wikipedia if I'm not mistaken, so if you want to know more about it, dig in. I don't have the time for that now, so sorry that I can't back my statements with citations.
#159 - lean (10/28/2014) [-]
The murder rates in cities with the strictest gun control laws (chicago, New York, etc.) are more than 10x as high as metro areas where concealed carrying is allowed. The Police chief of detriot is offering free carry training and encouraging all citizens to carry a gun, because the police can't help most of the time.
#161 - lean (10/28/2014) [-]
No, but if laws work making it illegal to carry the gun in that city, why does it still happen?
Why do school shootings happen when the sign on the front doors say "school bans weapons on this property"?
Gun laws are redundant, and a law prohibiting guns will not stop a person who has decided to commit murder. Just like with suicide- chances are you don't care about anything else. What is more important than stricter laws are stricter penalties.
The problem is not guns, but disturbed people. The rate of violence has not increased with modern weapons and availability of guns, but rather the hype and fear has increased with modern media. Violent crime in the last 10 years is 1/3 that of the 1990's.
Enacting laws based on intent vs. based on results is a faulty process, and the sad thing is too much government mismanagement is the result of good intentions and poor execution. Gun laws have been proven to be ineffective and redundant with regards to violent crime.
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#59 - anonymous (10/25/2014) [-]
if they get there way, the market for video games will become stagnant with shitty, bland, and Liberal games. Think Rockstar releasing a GTA 6 with no guns whatsoever. That's not a joke, nor is it unrealistic, it's what these landwhales want. and the reason most people are fighting that is because they don't want the bullshit they're selling.
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