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#26 - I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main…  [+] (1 reply) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#22 - Sorry but a quality MMORPG which is a lot of fun gives …  [+] (3 replies) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#23 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
and thats what gw does. the reason you arent feeling powerful in gw pvp, is because you think the way to win the game is to use all of your skills as quick as possible. as i said: thats just a quick ticket to your grave.

Guild Wars 2  Thief WvW PvP  Zerg Slaying 5 v 15-20 things that makes this possible is proper party balance (thief goes after med to light armored, or upscaleds, the elem is mostly tanking and kiting the zerg) notice also his skill usage. and how he indeed; does not spamm his skills
. yishis is considered one of the best thief players in the game. i suggest watching more of his videos if you want to learn how to do proper pvp

as for your vids: that just normal low level pve farming. it doesnt take skills to abuse bad ai.
#26 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main game is boring as shit with a boring ass magic system. Also because I play to kill large amount of monsters not to kill players.

The video just shows the guy using one skill which does 7k+ damage which is nice but that's about it, guess he just relies on the strongest hitting skill. He dies quickly and likes to run away a lot.
Not really seeing anything fun and it looks like most other 3D MMORPG that have the exact same combat system.

All the fights I saw he took basically pot shots at players and then ran away.


As for Ragnarok Online. Those ain't low level AI. Most of them are high level. Well for Normal level 99 players, if you're a rebirth level 150 class they are not much of a threat. But Guild Wars 2 AI does the same thing except they stop following you after a certain distance. Ragnarok Online just lets people do whatever with enemies.
But that type of Mobbing is a high risk high reward. Which is something you'll never find in GW2.

This can be done on some of the highest leveled enemies in the game. You just need high stats and good carded gears to pull it off effectively. But mainly the Claymore.

But Ragnarok online offers far more dynamic gameplay than what GuildWars 2 could ever hope to do. Not to mention you have to deal with Elemental system as well that could easily give you 200% more damage to various enemies. Or you get almost immune to certain elemental powers. But that also means the strong point vs to that elemental will deal far more damage on you.
Or you could slot your weapons with damage cards that give a 20% bonus damage to a certain type of monster. Then add 2-3 more of those cards for even more damage.

Before the massive nerf on stat system these cards buffed the entire damage output rather than just the attack stat.

In GW2 I saw none of that. I don't remember if I got to put out stat points. Guess they are too afraid of people messing up a character. Skills just cost money so if you have that you can get all the skills. RO you actually had to chose. Stat points mattered quite a bit too. You could change your build depending on stat points. Some classes had less options like Mages and Alchemist but most other classes could have like 2-3 different types of play style.

One of the reason I kept going back to it for about 5-6 years. GW2 lasted about 2 weeks for me and then I uninstalled it and never looked back.
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#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#20 - If it's not about DPS in a 1v1 it's about stunning or disablin…  [+] (5 replies) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#21 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
aaand thats why you will never feel godlike or powerful enough to take on groups of high level enemies without a porblem even if you are properly geared in any mmo you will ever play :I AAAND YOU FAIL


#22 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
How to use Claymore Traps  Ragnarok Online Sorry but a quality MMORPG which is a lot of fun gives power to people. That video is short and they might have nerfed the Claymore trap. But the way it worked was that it detonated every time an enemy stepped on it. Gathering up 30+ enemies means 30 detonations and very few enemies can take 30 explosions in a row from that trap.

There are other ways to level as well.
Juperos Mobbing with a Grimtooth Assassin Assassins got access to Grimtooth ability that lets them attack while hiding. This isn't all that useful vs single enemies but when you gather up groups of them you can start to deal damage to everyone. None of that silly 1v1 scenario here.

Do note that if these two people are hit by just one of those enemies there is a high chance that they will die because then everyone else gets in a hit unless the players are able to use a "Fly wing" which is a random teleport item to get away from the mob.
Losing all the time they spent gathering them up.

Those two are also Solo Mob training. When you're in a party you can become quite effective at killing stuff.

Sadly they don't make MMORPGs like they used to so now it's all about silly 1v1 matches for pussies who can't handle more.
User avatar
#23 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
and thats what gw does. the reason you arent feeling powerful in gw pvp, is because you think the way to win the game is to use all of your skills as quick as possible. as i said: thats just a quick ticket to your grave.

Guild Wars 2  Thief WvW PvP  Zerg Slaying 5 v 15-20 things that makes this possible is proper party balance (thief goes after med to light armored, or upscaleds, the elem is mostly tanking and kiting the zerg) notice also his skill usage. and how he indeed; does not spamm his skills
. yishis is considered one of the best thief players in the game. i suggest watching more of his videos if you want to learn how to do proper pvp

as for your vids: that just normal low level pve farming. it doesnt take skills to abuse bad ai.
#26 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main game is boring as shit with a boring ass magic system. Also because I play to kill large amount of monsters not to kill players.

The video just shows the guy using one skill which does 7k+ damage which is nice but that's about it, guess he just relies on the strongest hitting skill. He dies quickly and likes to run away a lot.
Not really seeing anything fun and it looks like most other 3D MMORPG that have the exact same combat system.

All the fights I saw he took basically pot shots at players and then ran away.


As for Ragnarok Online. Those ain't low level AI. Most of them are high level. Well for Normal level 99 players, if you're a rebirth level 150 class they are not much of a threat. But Guild Wars 2 AI does the same thing except they stop following you after a certain distance. Ragnarok Online just lets people do whatever with enemies.
But that type of Mobbing is a high risk high reward. Which is something you'll never find in GW2.

This can be done on some of the highest leveled enemies in the game. You just need high stats and good carded gears to pull it off effectively. But mainly the Claymore.

But Ragnarok online offers far more dynamic gameplay than what GuildWars 2 could ever hope to do. Not to mention you have to deal with Elemental system as well that could easily give you 200% more damage to various enemies. Or you get almost immune to certain elemental powers. But that also means the strong point vs to that elemental will deal far more damage on you.
Or you could slot your weapons with damage cards that give a 20% bonus damage to a certain type of monster. Then add 2-3 more of those cards for even more damage.

Before the massive nerf on stat system these cards buffed the entire damage output rather than just the attack stat.

In GW2 I saw none of that. I don't remember if I got to put out stat points. Guess they are too afraid of people messing up a character. Skills just cost money so if you have that you can get all the skills. RO you actually had to chose. Stat points mattered quite a bit too. You could change your build depending on stat points. Some classes had less options like Mages and Alchemist but most other classes could have like 2-3 different types of play style.

One of the reason I kept going back to it for about 5-6 years. GW2 lasted about 2 weeks for me and then I uninstalled it and never looked back.
User avatar
#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#18 - So all PvP is about is being able to stun the enemy and THEN s…  [+] (7 replies) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#19 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
...how the heck did you manage to strawman that out of what i said?
#20 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
If it's not about DPS in a 1v1 it's about stunning or disabling your enemy.
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#21 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
aaand thats why you will never feel godlike or powerful enough to take on groups of high level enemies without a porblem even if you are properly geared in any mmo you will ever play :I AAAND YOU FAIL


#22 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
How to use Claymore Traps  Ragnarok Online Sorry but a quality MMORPG which is a lot of fun gives power to people. That video is short and they might have nerfed the Claymore trap. But the way it worked was that it detonated every time an enemy stepped on it. Gathering up 30+ enemies means 30 detonations and very few enemies can take 30 explosions in a row from that trap.

There are other ways to level as well.
Juperos Mobbing with a Grimtooth Assassin Assassins got access to Grimtooth ability that lets them attack while hiding. This isn't all that useful vs single enemies but when you gather up groups of them you can start to deal damage to everyone. None of that silly 1v1 scenario here.

Do note that if these two people are hit by just one of those enemies there is a high chance that they will die because then everyone else gets in a hit unless the players are able to use a "Fly wing" which is a random teleport item to get away from the mob.
Losing all the time they spent gathering them up.

Those two are also Solo Mob training. When you're in a party you can become quite effective at killing stuff.

Sadly they don't make MMORPGs like they used to so now it's all about silly 1v1 matches for pussies who can't handle more.
User avatar
#23 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
and thats what gw does. the reason you arent feeling powerful in gw pvp, is because you think the way to win the game is to use all of your skills as quick as possible. as i said: thats just a quick ticket to your grave.

Guild Wars 2  Thief WvW PvP  Zerg Slaying 5 v 15-20 things that makes this possible is proper party balance (thief goes after med to light armored, or upscaleds, the elem is mostly tanking and kiting the zerg) notice also his skill usage. and how he indeed; does not spamm his skills
. yishis is considered one of the best thief players in the game. i suggest watching more of his videos if you want to learn how to do proper pvp

as for your vids: that just normal low level pve farming. it doesnt take skills to abuse bad ai.
#26 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main game is boring as shit with a boring ass magic system. Also because I play to kill large amount of monsters not to kill players.

The video just shows the guy using one skill which does 7k+ damage which is nice but that's about it, guess he just relies on the strongest hitting skill. He dies quickly and likes to run away a lot.
Not really seeing anything fun and it looks like most other 3D MMORPG that have the exact same combat system.

All the fights I saw he took basically pot shots at players and then ran away.


As for Ragnarok Online. Those ain't low level AI. Most of them are high level. Well for Normal level 99 players, if you're a rebirth level 150 class they are not much of a threat. But Guild Wars 2 AI does the same thing except they stop following you after a certain distance. Ragnarok Online just lets people do whatever with enemies.
But that type of Mobbing is a high risk high reward. Which is something you'll never find in GW2.

This can be done on some of the highest leveled enemies in the game. You just need high stats and good carded gears to pull it off effectively. But mainly the Claymore.

But Ragnarok online offers far more dynamic gameplay than what GuildWars 2 could ever hope to do. Not to mention you have to deal with Elemental system as well that could easily give you 200% more damage to various enemies. Or you get almost immune to certain elemental powers. But that also means the strong point vs to that elemental will deal far more damage on you.
Or you could slot your weapons with damage cards that give a 20% bonus damage to a certain type of monster. Then add 2-3 more of those cards for even more damage.

Before the massive nerf on stat system these cards buffed the entire damage output rather than just the attack stat.

In GW2 I saw none of that. I don't remember if I got to put out stat points. Guess they are too afraid of people messing up a character. Skills just cost money so if you have that you can get all the skills. RO you actually had to chose. Stat points mattered quite a bit too. You could change your build depending on stat points. Some classes had less options like Mages and Alchemist but most other classes could have like 2-3 different types of play style.

One of the reason I kept going back to it for about 5-6 years. GW2 lasted about 2 weeks for me and then I uninstalled it and never looked back.
User avatar
#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#16 - I don't see how it would be any different in PvP with spamming…  [+] (9 replies) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#17 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
because humans actually understand how to play the game, rather than the ai that doesnt know how to play the game.

if you spamm your abilities you will just be one step above your average pug (and in some cases, one step below in usefullness) which are pretty much walking lootbags for people who actually know how to play.

in pvp running away or around combat doesnt work since most people have enough mobility and mobility impairing skills to stop it, or they have a secondary weapon to shoot down low healths that are trying to leg it.
#18 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
So all PvP is about is being able to stun the enemy and THEN spam the skills? Sounds boring.
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#19 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
...how the heck did you manage to strawman that out of what i said?
#20 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
If it's not about DPS in a 1v1 it's about stunning or disabling your enemy.
User avatar
#21 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
aaand thats why you will never feel godlike or powerful enough to take on groups of high level enemies without a porblem even if you are properly geared in any mmo you will ever play :I AAAND YOU FAIL


#22 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
How to use Claymore Traps  Ragnarok Online Sorry but a quality MMORPG which is a lot of fun gives power to people. That video is short and they might have nerfed the Claymore trap. But the way it worked was that it detonated every time an enemy stepped on it. Gathering up 30+ enemies means 30 detonations and very few enemies can take 30 explosions in a row from that trap.

There are other ways to level as well.
Juperos Mobbing with a Grimtooth Assassin Assassins got access to Grimtooth ability that lets them attack while hiding. This isn't all that useful vs single enemies but when you gather up groups of them you can start to deal damage to everyone. None of that silly 1v1 scenario here.

Do note that if these two people are hit by just one of those enemies there is a high chance that they will die because then everyone else gets in a hit unless the players are able to use a "Fly wing" which is a random teleport item to get away from the mob.
Losing all the time they spent gathering them up.

Those two are also Solo Mob training. When you're in a party you can become quite effective at killing stuff.

Sadly they don't make MMORPGs like they used to so now it's all about silly 1v1 matches for pussies who can't handle more.
User avatar
#23 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
and thats what gw does. the reason you arent feeling powerful in gw pvp, is because you think the way to win the game is to use all of your skills as quick as possible. as i said: thats just a quick ticket to your grave.

Guild Wars 2  Thief WvW PvP  Zerg Slaying 5 v 15-20 things that makes this possible is proper party balance (thief goes after med to light armored, or upscaleds, the elem is mostly tanking and kiting the zerg) notice also his skill usage. and how he indeed; does not spamm his skills
. yishis is considered one of the best thief players in the game. i suggest watching more of his videos if you want to learn how to do proper pvp

as for your vids: that just normal low level pve farming. it doesnt take skills to abuse bad ai.
#26 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main game is boring as shit with a boring ass magic system. Also because I play to kill large amount of monsters not to kill players.

The video just shows the guy using one skill which does 7k+ damage which is nice but that's about it, guess he just relies on the strongest hitting skill. He dies quickly and likes to run away a lot.
Not really seeing anything fun and it looks like most other 3D MMORPG that have the exact same combat system.

All the fights I saw he took basically pot shots at players and then ran away.


As for Ragnarok Online. Those ain't low level AI. Most of them are high level. Well for Normal level 99 players, if you're a rebirth level 150 class they are not much of a threat. But Guild Wars 2 AI does the same thing except they stop following you after a certain distance. Ragnarok Online just lets people do whatever with enemies.
But that type of Mobbing is a high risk high reward. Which is something you'll never find in GW2.

This can be done on some of the highest leveled enemies in the game. You just need high stats and good carded gears to pull it off effectively. But mainly the Claymore.

But Ragnarok online offers far more dynamic gameplay than what GuildWars 2 could ever hope to do. Not to mention you have to deal with Elemental system as well that could easily give you 200% more damage to various enemies. Or you get almost immune to certain elemental powers. But that also means the strong point vs to that elemental will deal far more damage on you.
Or you could slot your weapons with damage cards that give a 20% bonus damage to a certain type of monster. Then add 2-3 more of those cards for even more damage.

Before the massive nerf on stat system these cards buffed the entire damage output rather than just the attack stat.

In GW2 I saw none of that. I don't remember if I got to put out stat points. Guess they are too afraid of people messing up a character. Skills just cost money so if you have that you can get all the skills. RO you actually had to chose. Stat points mattered quite a bit too. You could change your build depending on stat points. Some classes had less options like Mages and Alchemist but most other classes could have like 2-3 different types of play style.

One of the reason I kept going back to it for about 5-6 years. GW2 lasted about 2 weeks for me and then I uninstalled it and never looked back.
User avatar
#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#14 - But then it's 1v1 versus a person. Like that'll spice things u…  [+] (11 replies) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#15 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
yes it does. just spamming your abilities in pvp makes you a free lootbag.

guild wars wvwvw is exactly like that. once you get skilled enough you can easily kite and kill zergs alone. the problem here lies is that as you said: you just spam your abilities. you aint going to kill anybody worth their salt in pvp with that.
#16 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I don't see how it would be any different in PvP with spamming skills.

Unless all it means is that you pick a stun skill and then spam abilities it's hardly any better.

But the reason I spammed abilities in GW2 was because they have a timer, I have enough mana to spam them so once I've used most abilities and the timers haven't refreshed I just need to run around until they do allow me to use them.
But it made no difference, I just had to spam all my damage spells to kill enemies.
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#17 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
because humans actually understand how to play the game, rather than the ai that doesnt know how to play the game.

if you spamm your abilities you will just be one step above your average pug (and in some cases, one step below in usefullness) which are pretty much walking lootbags for people who actually know how to play.

in pvp running away or around combat doesnt work since most people have enough mobility and mobility impairing skills to stop it, or they have a secondary weapon to shoot down low healths that are trying to leg it.
#18 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
So all PvP is about is being able to stun the enemy and THEN spam the skills? Sounds boring.
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#19 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
...how the heck did you manage to strawman that out of what i said?
#20 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
If it's not about DPS in a 1v1 it's about stunning or disabling your enemy.
User avatar
#21 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
aaand thats why you will never feel godlike or powerful enough to take on groups of high level enemies without a porblem even if you are properly geared in any mmo you will ever play :I AAAND YOU FAIL


#22 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
How to use Claymore Traps  Ragnarok Online Sorry but a quality MMORPG which is a lot of fun gives power to people. That video is short and they might have nerfed the Claymore trap. But the way it worked was that it detonated every time an enemy stepped on it. Gathering up 30+ enemies means 30 detonations and very few enemies can take 30 explosions in a row from that trap.

There are other ways to level as well.
Juperos Mobbing with a Grimtooth Assassin Assassins got access to Grimtooth ability that lets them attack while hiding. This isn't all that useful vs single enemies but when you gather up groups of them you can start to deal damage to everyone. None of that silly 1v1 scenario here.

Do note that if these two people are hit by just one of those enemies there is a high chance that they will die because then everyone else gets in a hit unless the players are able to use a "Fly wing" which is a random teleport item to get away from the mob.
Losing all the time they spent gathering them up.

Those two are also Solo Mob training. When you're in a party you can become quite effective at killing stuff.

Sadly they don't make MMORPGs like they used to so now it's all about silly 1v1 matches for pussies who can't handle more.
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#23 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
and thats what gw does. the reason you arent feeling powerful in gw pvp, is because you think the way to win the game is to use all of your skills as quick as possible. as i said: thats just a quick ticket to your grave.

Guild Wars 2  Thief WvW PvP  Zerg Slaying 5 v 15-20 things that makes this possible is proper party balance (thief goes after med to light armored, or upscaleds, the elem is mostly tanking and kiting the zerg) notice also his skill usage. and how he indeed; does not spamm his skills
. yishis is considered one of the best thief players in the game. i suggest watching more of his videos if you want to learn how to do proper pvp

as for your vids: that just normal low level pve farming. it doesnt take skills to abuse bad ai.
#26 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main game is boring as shit with a boring ass magic system. Also because I play to kill large amount of monsters not to kill players.

The video just shows the guy using one skill which does 7k+ damage which is nice but that's about it, guess he just relies on the strongest hitting skill. He dies quickly and likes to run away a lot.
Not really seeing anything fun and it looks like most other 3D MMORPG that have the exact same combat system.

All the fights I saw he took basically pot shots at players and then ran away.


As for Ragnarok Online. Those ain't low level AI. Most of them are high level. Well for Normal level 99 players, if you're a rebirth level 150 class they are not much of a threat. But Guild Wars 2 AI does the same thing except they stop following you after a certain distance. Ragnarok Online just lets people do whatever with enemies.
But that type of Mobbing is a high risk high reward. Which is something you'll never find in GW2.

This can be done on some of the highest leveled enemies in the game. You just need high stats and good carded gears to pull it off effectively. But mainly the Claymore.

But Ragnarok online offers far more dynamic gameplay than what GuildWars 2 could ever hope to do. Not to mention you have to deal with Elemental system as well that could easily give you 200% more damage to various enemies. Or you get almost immune to certain elemental powers. But that also means the strong point vs to that elemental will deal far more damage on you.
Or you could slot your weapons with damage cards that give a 20% bonus damage to a certain type of monster. Then add 2-3 more of those cards for even more damage.

Before the massive nerf on stat system these cards buffed the entire damage output rather than just the attack stat.

In GW2 I saw none of that. I don't remember if I got to put out stat points. Guess they are too afraid of people messing up a character. Skills just cost money so if you have that you can get all the skills. RO you actually had to chose. Stat points mattered quite a bit too. You could change your build depending on stat points. Some classes had less options like Mages and Alchemist but most other classes could have like 2-3 different types of play style.

One of the reason I kept going back to it for about 5-6 years. GW2 lasted about 2 weeks for me and then I uninstalled it and never looked back.
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#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#12 - Guild Wars 2 is EXACTLY like the comic describes MMORPG. …  [+] (13 replies) 12/06/2016 on BDO for me. 0
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#13 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
then stop playing pve.

pve is shite for every mmo.
#14 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
But then it's 1v1 versus a person. Like that'll spice things up.

When I play a MMORPG I want to feel powerful, enough that I can take on groups of high level enemies without a problem if I'm properly geared or skilled.

Guild Wars 2 will never let me feel like that. Neither will vast majority of the MMORPG do it.
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#15 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
yes it does. just spamming your abilities in pvp makes you a free lootbag.

guild wars wvwvw is exactly like that. once you get skilled enough you can easily kite and kill zergs alone. the problem here lies is that as you said: you just spam your abilities. you aint going to kill anybody worth their salt in pvp with that.
#16 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I don't see how it would be any different in PvP with spamming skills.

Unless all it means is that you pick a stun skill and then spam abilities it's hardly any better.

But the reason I spammed abilities in GW2 was because they have a timer, I have enough mana to spam them so once I've used most abilities and the timers haven't refreshed I just need to run around until they do allow me to use them.
But it made no difference, I just had to spam all my damage spells to kill enemies.
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#17 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
because humans actually understand how to play the game, rather than the ai that doesnt know how to play the game.

if you spamm your abilities you will just be one step above your average pug (and in some cases, one step below in usefullness) which are pretty much walking lootbags for people who actually know how to play.

in pvp running away or around combat doesnt work since most people have enough mobility and mobility impairing skills to stop it, or they have a secondary weapon to shoot down low healths that are trying to leg it.
#18 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
So all PvP is about is being able to stun the enemy and THEN spam the skills? Sounds boring.
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#19 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
...how the heck did you manage to strawman that out of what i said?
#20 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
If it's not about DPS in a 1v1 it's about stunning or disabling your enemy.
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#21 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
aaand thats why you will never feel godlike or powerful enough to take on groups of high level enemies without a porblem even if you are properly geared in any mmo you will ever play :I AAAND YOU FAIL


#22 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
How to use Claymore Traps  Ragnarok Online Sorry but a quality MMORPG which is a lot of fun gives power to people. That video is short and they might have nerfed the Claymore trap. But the way it worked was that it detonated every time an enemy stepped on it. Gathering up 30+ enemies means 30 detonations and very few enemies can take 30 explosions in a row from that trap.

There are other ways to level as well.
Juperos Mobbing with a Grimtooth Assassin Assassins got access to Grimtooth ability that lets them attack while hiding. This isn't all that useful vs single enemies but when you gather up groups of them you can start to deal damage to everyone. None of that silly 1v1 scenario here.

Do note that if these two people are hit by just one of those enemies there is a high chance that they will die because then everyone else gets in a hit unless the players are able to use a "Fly wing" which is a random teleport item to get away from the mob.
Losing all the time they spent gathering them up.

Those two are also Solo Mob training. When you're in a party you can become quite effective at killing stuff.

Sadly they don't make MMORPGs like they used to so now it's all about silly 1v1 matches for pussies who can't handle more.
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#23 - angelious (12/06/2016) [-]
and thats what gw does. the reason you arent feeling powerful in gw pvp, is because you think the way to win the game is to use all of your skills as quick as possible. as i said: thats just a quick ticket to your grave.

Guild Wars 2  Thief WvW PvP  Zerg Slaying 5 v 15-20 things that makes this possible is proper party balance (thief goes after med to light armored, or upscaleds, the elem is mostly tanking and kiting the zerg) notice also his skill usage. and how he indeed; does not spamm his skills
. yishis is considered one of the best thief players in the game. i suggest watching more of his videos if you want to learn how to do proper pvp

as for your vids: that just normal low level pve farming. it doesnt take skills to abuse bad ai.
#26 - cursesnew (12/06/2016) [-]
I didn't and won't PvP in GuildWars 2. Mainly because the main game is boring as shit with a boring ass magic system. Also because I play to kill large amount of monsters not to kill players.

The video just shows the guy using one skill which does 7k+ damage which is nice but that's about it, guess he just relies on the strongest hitting skill. He dies quickly and likes to run away a lot.
Not really seeing anything fun and it looks like most other 3D MMORPG that have the exact same combat system.

All the fights I saw he took basically pot shots at players and then ran away.


As for Ragnarok Online. Those ain't low level AI. Most of them are high level. Well for Normal level 99 players, if you're a rebirth level 150 class they are not much of a threat. But Guild Wars 2 AI does the same thing except they stop following you after a certain distance. Ragnarok Online just lets people do whatever with enemies.
But that type of Mobbing is a high risk high reward. Which is something you'll never find in GW2.

This can be done on some of the highest leveled enemies in the game. You just need high stats and good carded gears to pull it off effectively. But mainly the Claymore.

But Ragnarok online offers far more dynamic gameplay than what GuildWars 2 could ever hope to do. Not to mention you have to deal with Elemental system as well that could easily give you 200% more damage to various enemies. Or you get almost immune to certain elemental powers. But that also means the strong point vs to that elemental will deal far more damage on you.
Or you could slot your weapons with damage cards that give a 20% bonus damage to a certain type of monster. Then add 2-3 more of those cards for even more damage.

Before the massive nerf on stat system these cards buffed the entire damage output rather than just the attack stat.

In GW2 I saw none of that. I don't remember if I got to put out stat points. Guess they are too afraid of people messing up a character. Skills just cost money so if you have that you can get all the skills. RO you actually had to chose. Stat points mattered quite a bit too. You could change your build depending on stat points. Some classes had less options like Mages and Alchemist but most other classes could have like 2-3 different types of play style.

One of the reason I kept going back to it for about 5-6 years. GW2 lasted about 2 weeks for me and then I uninstalled it and never looked back.
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#30 - angelious (12/07/2016) [-]
except he doesnt die. he uses his abilities in good succession (specially look at his usage of steal) and he keeps his iniative in check.

the difference between the video that you sent, and the video i sent is that: if you give me the game,the same equipment and stats that the guy in the video had. i will be able to repeat his action. it doesnt take any skills at all. meanwhile even i, who has more than 200 hours of game time on thief, would not be capable of repeating yishish feats.


and finally a conclusion to this: you cant handle low level mobs without either abusing the ai system or kiting them to one on ones, you think the epitome of skill in mmo games is farming ai (even thou farming is pretty much a synonym to casual in gaming lingo) you think that pvp in mmo gaming is just using all your skills as quick as possible, you cant see the difference between an ai (set patterns,cant adapt) and a human being (unpredictable, can adapt) you think that just because the ai you fight is higher leveled it requires skills to beat (even tho the ai in that game of yours is pathetically easy to abuse)


all things considered: the reason you dont enjoy mmo genre is because you are a casual. im saying it with no ill intention but its just true.


you want the game itself to make you feel like something you are not, but multiplayer games of any kind will only make you feel as good as you are.

now you can put up your own reply here. ill read it. ill propably shake my head at it. but i wont reply anymore. you have shown that you are blind to your own situation to a point its more sad than cringy.

good day
#5 - Nah man, all the Killcam will do is point your camera in the d…  [+] (3 replies) 12/03/2016 on The risk was calculated +12
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#8 - freshestprince (12/03/2016) [-]
Not in bf3. In bf3 the killcam is a third person view of the killer. In bf4 it's a zoom in to orange.
#39 - anon (12/04/2016) [-]
actually neither are you right, what you used to do is fall on the ground and then raise your arm.
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#40 - freshestprince (12/04/2016) [-]
That's not the killcam, and that happens in hardcore