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#28 - Greevon (12/20/2014) [-]
Yeah, that's actually how it works. Reckless endangerment.
You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. Freedom of speech is not a defense when you present a clear and present danger.
I'd say ignoring threats from a nation with a crazy dictator would fall into that category, but it's open for interpretation what "clear and present" means.
#29 - durkadurka (12/20/2014) [-]
Yelling fire in a theater is not expression covered under the first amendment. A movie, especially one that makes direct commentary in regards to real world issues, is. This is because it is political speech/expression. Other types of speech are NOT guaranteed by the first amendment.
Sony is not responsible if a third party takes violent actions at theaters which they neither own nor control because of content they've created. The theaters themselves are only responsible if they threats are specific and credible (ie "we're going to bomb some theaters" is not gonna cut it).
Otherwise it'd be like holding car manufacturers responsible for car crashes because they make the vehicles which people drive.
We haven't had to deal with the fact that freedom is costly and often dangerous in a long time. At some point we'll have to re-learn just exactly what securing freedom entails.
#31 - Greevon (12/20/2014) [-]
I'm not saying they'd be at fault if something bad happened.
But I am saying that it probably wouldn't have been a good idea. And I'm also saying that your sarcastic statement was correct in certain situations.
Now, this new point about learning the cost of freedom... Let's just say I don't subscribe to the whole "blood of patriots" thing. Everything's all fine and well until you're finally the one doing the bleeding.
Back to the movie, I just don't think a comedy is worth risking foreign aggression. Should we let the little fuck bully us? No, but pick your battles well with a batshit opponent.
#33 - durkadurka (12/20/2014) [-]
I can see the sense in which you say my sarcastic comment can hold true, however I think my intent behind the use of the phrase "freedom of speech" is clear enough.
I get the concern for people's safety but I don't think your core values are something you ever should compromise on. Even with the small stuff. Making these concessions is essentially saying that we or at least Sony stand for nothing, at least in my mind. Making these little slips gets you things like the Patriot Act. Though I will say that I don't expect people to get things right all of the time, because we are imperfect and will make mistakes.
Sticking to your core values is going to suck at times. There's going to be hard decisions to make, decisions that may even have tough consequences.
It doesn't necessarily have to be the "blood of patriots" notion; A cost of freedom could be simply that a choice you make ends up negatively impacting yourself or those around you. Note that this is assuming actions within the scope of the law In a similar sense a cost of freedom is that it forces you to be more responsible with your own life.
Doing the hard thing shows that we're willing to back up what we believe in to the point of risking our safety.
It really just would have been nice for Sony to say that they're going to stand for something and not give in to fear. They've just given fear more power over people
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