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#26 - Im friends with her cousin, his names Andrew.  [+] (2 replies) 10/10/2016 on A white woman playing a... 0
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#32 - largemuffins (10/10/2016) [-]
Small fucking world. I'm Andrew's brother.
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#40 - coronangel (10/10/2016) [-]
lelel my names zach , tell him we met on fj
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#135 - Tyranitar (05/18/2016) [-]
#1 - If you aren't certified for CPR, the person you gave CPR to ca…  [+] (25 replies) 02/12/2016 on CP{R +96
#72 - anon (02/13/2016) [-]
But what about the Good Samaritan Law thing?
Can't you rip into someone's chest with a chainsaw if you think it's gonna cure their heart attack?
#75 - halonachos (02/13/2016) [-]

In fact if you're drunk and give correct CPR to a person they can still sue you because you were drunk and therefor acting irresponsibly. Correct CPR usually involves a little cracking of ribs depending on age.

As a doctor if you know how to perform emergency tracheotomy and believe 100% with your medical knowledge, hell if you know 100% that they NEED, those treatments and attempt to do it in the field with equipment that paramedics have you can get sued and will most likely lose the case and potentially your job.

It doesn't help to help.
#67 - yolobrolo (02/12/2016) [-]
#65 - anon (02/12/2016) [-]
Not in the UK =)
#61 - ninefag (02/12/2016) [-]
Well, in Germany, you can't get sued for any first aid, you can only get sued when you don't provide any. But of course if you know, that you have no clue about CPR, then it's enough to call an Ambulance. But everyone with a driving license had to learn it, so chances are high that you know how to and then you have to.

Also if you see somebody getting attacked, you have to help, but you're not forced to do it physical. Chances are high you get fucked up too, so there are two people in need and nobody left to help. In that case it's also enough to call the police and "hide" until they arrive.
#71 - halonachos (02/12/2016) [-]
Germany is indeed fucking stupid.
#73 - anon (02/13/2016) [-]
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Yeah because the logical thing is being sued for trying to help. Fuck off Americunt
#74 - halonachos (02/13/2016) [-]
Being sued because you don't help, pretty fucking fascist if you ask me. Like a first-aid Nazi.
#49 - anon (02/12/2016) [-]
It used to be this way, but the good samaritan law now does not let that happen
#59 - anon (02/12/2016) [-]
that's actually not true. Good Samaritan laws say that you can't be sued, as long as you're only providing care up to the level of certification you've acquired. I'm First Aid/CPR certified, so if I give CPR, I won't be sued; there's certain stuff an EMT or paramedic can do that I can't.
#63 - sneakytree (02/12/2016) [-]
"Under the good samaritan laws which grant immunity, if the good samaritan makes an error while rendering emergency medical care, he or she cannot be held legally liable for damages in court. However, two conditions usually must be met; 1) the aid must be given at the scene of the emergency, and. 2) if the "volunteer" has other motives, such as the hope of being paid a fee or reward, then the law will not apply."


What most of their explanation says, mostly in the space just above my quote on their page, is that as long as you're not reckless with helping someone, you can't be sued. It says nothing about training or levels of training.

Attempting the Heimlich maneuver to save the life of a choking person, without training and in the absence of a trained individual, is not reckless. The alternatives were weighed and the consequences of NOT even attempting SOME aid would most likely be death. It could be argued that it IS reckless to stand by and wait on 911 help to arrive if there isn't anyone trained available.

Something like hitting somebody on the back with a sledgehammer in an attempt to dislodge an item blocking the airway of another person could be considered reckless though.

Otherwise, like others pointed out, people would just stand by and do nothing.
#62 - anon (02/12/2016) [-]
That is incorrect. As long as the assistance provided was reasonable, they are not liable.
#44 - vladi (02/12/2016) [-]
"Sure I know correct CPR, I just haven't got the paper to prove it."

"Oh well, better let him die then, he might sue me if I save his life."

The system works
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#17 - medexplain (02/12/2016) [-]
This is inaccurate. An untrained bystander would not be prosecuted for attempting to deliver CPR. However, state laws generally say that you shouldn't use an AED unless trained (depends on state). Basic CPR is fine.

The rule of thumb for good samaritan law is that you must provide the best possible care in which you are (supposed to be) trained. A doctor is held to higher standards than a random bystander.

A second issue is that you have to attempt to ask for permission. If they are unconscious (or otherwise unable to answer), permission is implied (after attempting to wake them up if you found them that way). If you ask permission and they shake you off, you can't attempt CPR until they lose consciousness, at which point permission is implied and you may begin CPR unless they expressly gave you a verbal do not resuscitate order (DNR).

The third issue is if they have a DNR and you are aware of it, then you should not perform CPR. Unless they change their mind and clearly communicate that to you. Example: They have a DNR and are having a heart attack. You ask if they want help and they say yes. You ask if they want you to attempt CPR if they pass out and they say yes. This overrides any DNR they may have had written previously.
#23 - anon (02/12/2016) [-]

Are we against like, answering questions now?

Doesn't surprise me, site is full of fucking 12 year olds.
#2 - shatstorm (02/12/2016) [-]
That is actually partially incorrect. The Good Samaritan Law, while not applicable to average joes all over America, legally protects people who give assistance to people who are injured, ill, etc.
Example: Sally is going into cardiac arrest. A nearby bystander, with no training, attempts CPR on Sally while EMS is called and en route. Sally dies because the bystander was not performing CPR completely correctly, but under the protection of the Good Samaritan Law, the bystander's attempt to give necessary assistance is protected.
#42 - anon (02/12/2016) [-]
They don't have that law in China, you help someone and you are gonna get fucked.

Btw anyone know the name of this meme?
#21 - sadian (02/12/2016) [-]
CPR is performed (in the context of the heart) on dead people, not people who are 'passed out'.
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#12 - heretofuckshitup (02/12/2016) [-]
this is also partially incorrect. firstly at least in the US you do have to be certified to give CPR and when you do you have to ask permission to give CPR if they are still conscious and the age of consent. not knowing proper procedure can actually be more harmful than good despite the intentions. you are still liable in certain situations. GSL doesn't blanket every person from providing unlicensed CPR. being licensed i'm obligated to approach the person and ask if they require assistance informing them of my CPR notification, if i don't i would technically be liable for any harm to them at that point, then depending whether they want it or not i'd perform CPR, if they say know proper procedure is to wait for them to be completely unconscious and then perform CPR as consent is assumed at that point since they are unable to answer. the goal is to perform CPR until the professionals arrive.
#70 - gramatik (02/12/2016) [-]
How can attempting CPR be harmful to someone in cardiac arrest (already clinically dead)? Standing around waiting for EMS pretty much guarantees that the patient will become brain dead and cannot be resuscitated. Even if you do somehow manage to fuck everything up the only result is that the patient is STILL dead just like they were before. Basically what I'm trying to say is you can't fuck things up much more than they already are. Trained professionals are taught a very specific way of doing CPR. Any deviation is considered wrong because millions of studies have shown us the form of CPR that leads to the highest rate of resuscitation. If a trained professional were to perform CPR incorrectly, then yes, their ignorance could prevent the patient from being saved. However, an untrained bystander is not held to the same standard and should always be convinced that doing something is better than nothing. Just ranting here hoping that if I ever go into cardiac arrest someone will try to help rather than stand around until it's too late.
#4 - thraxas (02/12/2016) [-]
but the family gets sympathy votes from the jury in the court case and now own everything nearby bystander used to own and under the same good samaritan law in some states if bystander does not help he/she can face jail time so you are fucked if ya do and fucked if ya dont
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#5 - syntheticdoll (02/12/2016) [-]
Basicaly, if you see someone who needs CPR.... Run.
But seriously people are assholes, most of them would sue you for saving their life because you don't have a piece of paper claiming you know how to do CPR, the fun part is, my father had to learn it for his driver's licence, has the paper, but forgot how to do it long ago while I don't have a paper, but I have to practice it in school every year as part of workshop protection training. But these idiots would rather have my father save their life because of a certificase.
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#41 - mrpotatofudge (02/12/2016) [-]
I remember a 4chan post where a guy basically ran when some black guy was seriously injured

the guy didnt call medics either and apparently he was sent yo coury

he was released free because anon guy told the court that he didnt consider the black person worth saving

court people basically called him a massive inhuman douche but it was still a reasonable excuse
#7 - thraxas (02/12/2016) [-]
yup pretty much so even if the fucker lives i saw nothing i heard nothing i was never here fuck off and bother somebody els *scurries away!*
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#6 - syntheticdoll (02/12/2016) [-]
*try to save their life
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