I honestly don't know the difference, but I think it has something to do with Nationalism. Why we're all racist and brutal people? I have no idea.

Weird when you step back and look at it....

is it a community college or trade school?

Its a community College, and I am on the Arts and Sciences campus. There are full level math courses above it that most majors require, but if you are only going for a general degree you only need 5 credits in math. all of the lower level courses earn you 3.

Riddle me this, It's not a mac.

It is a Mac, It is an iMac G5 Tower.

Really? I thought it was just some non-specific TV brand. Still, chuck is awesome, adn if he uses a mac, so be it.

www.tomshw.it/guides/hardware/guide/20070906/images/apple_desktops_07.jpg
It looks like this iMac, I think they just covered the Apple Logo.

its the mac pro. pretty much used for intensive video editing and graphics. thats the computer they use when they work on hollywood movies

It's not THE computer they use, they also use PC's. PC's can do just as much as a Mac can.

um yes it is THE computer.

Not really, you could easily use a windows system instead of that Mac. The Mac is ONE of the computers they could use.

yea but the OS on a mac is MADE to run the software used for video editing and graphics. the software was MADE for mac and windows second.

And? That's the same as saying LA Noire is better on the PS3 than it is on PC because they made the PC version second, It just isn't better, ports of software can be better than the original.

the fact that the way the OS on a mac works better with certain programs. thats why certain computers are industry standard.

Yes I know, but the performance difference isn't worth the £1000 difference in price, Photoshop may take 2 seconds slower to launch on a PC than on a Mac but those 2 seconds are definitely not worth £1000.

like i said more to it than performance. theres also layout and organization.
put same programs side by side and one will out do the other is not hard to comprehend. a pc could easily beat a mac if there playing the same games or other programs that were made for windows.

I cannot stand the layout of OSX, Everything is hidden away, I like being in control of my computers, I like customizing my computers, you cannot customize a mac too easily.

ok thats a matter of opinion and as for the last part i completely agree. the newer models are a fucking nightmare. im training to be an apple tech everything is saudered in besides the hard drive and a few other components and i hate it. i can barely open these things and when i do there shit to put back together. i have a 17" MacBook Pro. one of the last models to be almost completely customizable. is has 16gigs of ram, a turbo 3.6ghz i7 processor and a 756gb SSD. the things a beast. however the retail would be about 3700 the price of my car. i think its rediculous but hey i didnt have to pay for it.

I don't mind some macs, the older Mac Minis (the ones with the disk drive) were pretty neat, they weren't that quick but the design was pretty cool, I also like the iMac G3, the huge all in one that looked like a CRT TV, They were awesome. I don't mind Apple products, I just hate the huge price tag.

dude everyone hates the price tag. no ones disputing that

there not shit, there just over priced

no, there over priced shit

how r they shit. please tell me why there shit.

hey, you want to play some games? Oh, you have a mac? Ok then

and the components they use are bad

ok ill play along. in case you didnt know apple designes all of there parts to work specifically with their computer to give it a flawless flow. which is why they hardly get viruses and almost never crash or fail. the parts are commissioned by other companied but they are designed by Apple. so there not shit just because u cant gt the exacty same parts anywhere else. thirdly if you actualy try to build another computer and try to get it as close as you can to an apple the prices will be similar AND your forgetting about the hundreds of dollars of free software thats allready installed on the mac. where as a PC all you get is the trial version. its true that its hard to customize a mac after you buy it because once again you risk altering the integrity on the computer. the mac is the industry standard for graphics for a reason. u dont think an entire industry would spend that kind of money because they wanted too. they are the best at what they do and closed minded assholes like yourself just rip on then just because you prefer something different. im a Graphic designer. i also happen to work for Apple as a creative. so fuck you

Oh so I cannot go out and buy the i3 processor they use? I think I can. Recent Apple Macs use parts from companies like intel and Nvidia which is why you can run Mac OSX on a windows based PC and why you can run Windows on a Mac.

they use i5 and i7 and Xenon

Well either way, I will still be able to buy the same Processor in a store.

yea but those processors arent cheep.

i5 £142 www.maplin.co.uk/intel-core-i5-3350p-retail-boxed--687156

i7 £240 www.maplin.co.uk/intel-core-i7-3820-retail-boxed--687159
Much cheaper than Apple price them.

thats like $70 thats about right. i dont understand why ur fighting on this so hard. ur ripping on a computer that you dont even use all im doing is defending it. ur the negative im the positive.

I do use Macs, I have to do music exams using garageband, I'm just disproving your statements, the parts apple use, are alot cheaper than they make them up to be. I could build a hackintosh with the same specs as a brand new iMac for half the price. I don't mind Macs, I hate their fanbase however, you won't stop making up shit, everything you have said so far, has been proven false.

no it hasn't ive never once said that macs are worth dollar per dollar the parts that are put into them. i know for a fact that you could build a similar computer with the same specs cheaper. what i HAVE said, that uve completely ignored, is the fact that they can be worth the money when you put into account the entire computer instead of just the technical specs of the machine.

Explain how they are worth it then?

theres people who want to know why there PC is acting up for seemingly no reason. the reason is usually something simple like a virus or a hard drive failure or some other component is dying because who knows why. and money will have to be spent to replace the part yada yada... im not saying its a bad thing. if taken care of you can always slap some more miles into a PC which is a good thing. but when it comes to a Mac it just doesnt happen. people ask why and the answer is simple than people realize. the intergration between hardware and software is flawless. Apple has spent years perfecting it. thats why they dont like people getting into there computers cause you risk damaging the integrity of the machine. the worst a Mac can get virus wise is Malware which can easily be wiped out by a forced re-update. the unibody and other hardware limit the failure rate if its components. and the fact that the OS is runs on and that all the components were designed by apple. granted they were made by other companies but they were made by Apple. means that the computer runs on code that were MADE for these components and theses components only. so its like the hardware "understand" each other. like there family. i know thats a little weird but its a easy way to describe it. now with a PC you have multiple companies coming together smashing in there parts to create a computer. and they all run on code that looser and is much more spectacle to viruses and failure. these components are forced to work with each other. thats a different between the computers that no one seems to get. we have macs that are from Apples first line of computers that still work. they just dont break or fail. and when they do its either the owners fault or its covered under warranty.

True, but most PC companies have programs that let you know when a piece of hardware is going to fail. Like I'm typing this on a 4 year old Toshiba laptop, It has quite a few programs on it that limit wear on components, like Toshiba HDD protection, whenever the computer senses movement, it moves the HDD head away from the HDD so it doesn't break the hard disk or cause any data loss. I agree that Macs are more reliable than a PC, the amount of old iMac G3s still working is quite amazing actually, they are like 15 years old and they are still going strong.

that is correct. but someone who just doesnt want to deal with all that technical bullshit. just need a computer and never really worry about it doing something weird on then nd not knowing what to do might see the price as worth it.

True, some used Macs are pretty damn cheap, a mac mini can be found for about £150 on eBay. I'm just one of those people who like new things, only reason really why I do not own a mac.

inb4 tl;dr

apple is shit they steall money, you say pure shit. they overpriced their product only because they put an apple on them.
Each of them product are over priced you can have a better computer for the same prise.
They are the best at stealling money yes, they close their system and if you have a problem the best way to solve it is to buy another one. Please don't talk shit about program when you can have all for free on the internet.

And when you talk about PC, you mean Windows ? Because iOS and Windows are the only OS.

tl;dr if you want to waste your money buy a mac. But if your Qi is a bit supperior and you know that maybe you can use your head for building your own computer (that's really easy to do) do it. (The only apple good product is the ipad)

ur just being closed minded. never once had i said anything bad about any PC. the fact is that Apple make the highest quality computer. sure you could build a computer with better specs. but that doesnt make it a better computer. the OS and hardware are build to a specific standard that you just dont get with any other computer. thats why macs are used for more creative purposes. Im getting my Masters in Creative Media. thats why i have a mac. i also know that people who switch from a PC to a Mac are generally happy with the decision. i dont have people coming in my store every saying this mac is a piece of shit i want to go back to my old PC. instead i help them with there current problem and 9 times out of ten i can fix it. one the off chance that i cant then its either there own fault or i hope they got apple care or within the one year warranty. people spend they money for a mac because they like the fact that they will never have to worry about expensive software, getting a virus, crashing, or just messing up for no reason because macs just dont do that. some would say thats worth the price alone.

"highest quality computer" you're wrong on so many point, you are close minded because you think mac is the best and only. Do you understand how work each part of your computer do you know their specifications, if you understand this you will know why and how each part of an iMac is overpriced and are bad quality.

apparently you dont.

You clearly don't understand how overpriced their shit is. Sure you can get iMacs that run like a fucking beast. You can now get Steam on an iMac so you can do abit of gaming, but in order to get decent performance, you need to spend £1500+ whereas to get a decent performing PC, you will need to spend about £500 for an of the shelf PC or £300 if you build it yourself. The only reason Apple is still around is because senseless morons like you will go out and spend fuck knows how much on an iMac for the stupidest reasons.

theres more to computers than performance. theres quality and theres software and security nd integrity. macs excel in every field. and plus i didnt spend that amount of money just because its a mac. its required for my line of work. im a graphic designer. do you think i would be able do do my work on a PC? probably.. but would i be able to get a job as a graphic designer if i used a PC? no absolutely not.

u're a tard, the iOS is not the best os, and all and macs don't excel in evert field. You're so close minded because you think that mac are the best and nothing can reach them.
All the software you have except the crapy apple software can be on any computer

u know what im not going to argue with some fucking shit brain. u obviously dont know what your talking about. fuck off

ok waste your money fucktard and suck apple cock, you only think that because you spend a lot of money on apple product but you don't even know which component are in your computer.

wow my god, im an apple specialist, i know practically everything there is to know about these computers and i know perfectly well what is my computer. why are you so angry at the fact that i have a different computer tan you? my god

well we leave our name tags at the store but heres my APP pin if that helps.

They over price each parts of the system.

components with the same specs. but not the same components. plus you wouldnt be getting as quality as computer

lol i didn't know ,but i think if you ask for a graphic card like a gtx 670 1 or 2go they choose the brand themselves ?

By your logic I would be able to sell shit flavored ice cream for £30 a cone "It isn't bad, just overpriced". Mac's are bad for most things.

Outdated graphic.