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#20 - snowshark (10/29/2013) [-]
I'd not say he lost all of his credablility. He was just up against a fuck-ton of really strong opponents. Let's not forget that Luffy also got curb-stomped and captured by Ceaser and only won because his fighting style allows him to stay outside of Ceaser's range.
And Law has fucked up everyone he's come across in one way or another with his amazingly broken abilities that only work because there's someone as smart as Oda writing his character.
And we've yet to see anyone actually scratch Doflamingo in the entire series so... there's that.
Smoker just got caught off guard and put into situations he didn't work well in. That said, I do think he's going to need to beef the fuck up before he can be a threat to Luffy again given how strong Luffy is now but that wasn't the fault of the Punk Hazard Arc.
#22 - snowshark (11/04/2013) [-]
Well when you think about it Luffy didn't do much stomping in Marinford. He took out the giants and a bunch of captains but he got his ass handed to him by Smoker, The Admirals and Hawkeye. If not for Boa, his emerging Haki, and Jimbe he'd have died plenty of times.
The only named person who got royally handed their ass was Koby since Garp didn't really fight back and Sengoku just got some of his attacks blocked which gave Luffy enough time. Marinford was very well written in that it had Luffy be the centre of attention without soaking up all of the praise and glory or making him brokenly powerful which is kind-of what I'm worried he has become now. I'm sure Oda knows what he's doing though.
#24 - snowshark (11/04/2013) [-]
No. If he loses he gets cut to pieces. The big problem with Doflamingo that in pretty much any other story would make him the most broken character imaginable is that he has the ability to not only cut you up with a flick of his fingers but as demonstrated recently he has a near-unlimited range and can essentially fly.
Walter C. Dornez had a similar power and the only way to fight him was to be able to regenerate the bodyparts that were cut to pieces. Luffy doesn't have that benefit. Hence the only way to beat Doflamingo so far as I see it is for Luffy is to hit him hard and fast then retreat and repeat until Doflamingo is dead. The big weakness of his power is that he's a human being, hence he only has so much in the way of reaction times.
Ideally I would like to see Luffy -AND- Law fight Doflamingo but it seems likely that's not about to happen as Law's probably going to get taken out of the arc by Doflamingo any day now. I'd say he'd die but... this is one piece. You can only die in flashbacks in One Piece (unless you're Ace or Whitebeard but they're the clear rarity here.)
#25 - asesiel (11/04/2013) [-]
What if Law uses Room and then uses Shambles so that whenever any of them got cut, they wouldn't die. They'd just need Law to put them back together...and I think a lot of characters are going to start dying. Vergo and Monet both died and it was the first arc in the new world.
#26 - snowshark (11/04/2013) [-]
1) That's actually a pretty good idea... I hadn't thought of that but yeah that seems like it could work!
2) No they didn't. I mean... it sure looks like they did but let's face it, it looked like the bird guy from Alabasta died. He was in the middle of a HUGE EXPLOSION and he was alive and kicking. The same for Bon Clay. He had SUCH a great death scene ready and waiting and nope, he's now in charge of the New Kama Kingdom on floor 5.5. So yeah I don't think for a second that either of them are dead.
(Bon Clay is dead in my eyes. He died like a badass and I feel he should be respected as such.)
#27 - asesiel (11/04/2013) [-]
Hahah! I wonder if Bon Clay will ever leave Impel Down...and think about it. Vergo was cut to bits by Law so even if he was alive, they'd need him for reassembly and Monet is definitely dead because Caeser stabbed her heart but I get why'd you feel like this. EVen Bellamy is alive! It's so weird hw the Grandline is so dangerous and we never see death.
#28 - snowshark (11/04/2013) [-]
Vergo can be re-assembled without Law, much like Kinemon Foxfire was. He just kept sticking to things until the right bits stuck together.
And I'm sure there's some explanation as to why Monet is alive. Just like how all the people caught in the poison cloud and were... coated in something or other survived. Nobody dies in One Piece.... almost nobody named at least. I imagine a lot of marines have died like in the shelling of Enis Lobby and such but Rob Lucci's not dead. Neither is Spandam and he got a broken back!
#30 - snowshark (11/04/2013) [-]
1) They're both going to die. Oda doesn't kill people willy-nilly because he doesn't need to, however with Blackbeard and Akainu they need to die because their deaths send a message the same as Ace and Whitebeard's deaths do.
2) No idea, but I'm glad she is. I kinda like her. And her name is Jewellery Bonney btw.
#31 - asesiel (11/05/2013) [-]
Oh, yeah, I forgot. I like her too. She doesn't like the Straw Hats cause Luffy attacked the noble and that made Kizaru appear but I think she's going to become an ally of the SH pirates in the future...and the pacing in Op is always slow but the climax of the arcs are always amazing and the new reveals keep it interesting.
#32 - snowshark (11/05/2013) [-]
If the character is a sympathetic character they become an ally to the Straw Hats. If the character isn't a sympathetic character then they rarely will become allies to the Straw Hats but even then, it's happened before.
One Piece isn't some masterpiece of gripping literature. It's not accurately depicting humanity or even attempting to. It's a dumb story about pirates and treasure that just so happens to be written by a visionary genius. In anyone else's hands OP would be an intolerable shit-storm with it's lack of character development, plot threads left dangling for years, and total disregard for the tension death can add to a story. In Oda's hands it is a fantastically crafted, fun, adventure manga that is meant to be read over the course of years.
But it's not slow-paced by any means. It may take a while to reach the climax but during that whole time stuff is happening, interesting stuff that either showcases the main characters, leaves interesting memories, sets up characters and events to pay-off in the future, furthering large, convoluted plots with many characters, developing those characters adequately, building the tension,... you get the idea. OP is slow, but the pacing of it is fairly quick. I can't think of a single chapter in the manga where nothing interesting happened or nothing that made the manga better for it's inclusion happened.
Like I said, Oda is a visionary genius turning a simple, flawed story into an epic journey.
Also, I'd like to say I think Rebecca might join the crew but she has yet to portray and form of comedy, whilst Bartolemeo (another SH candidate) is way too OTT in his comedy to be part of the Straw Hats and would need to calm down a little before he had a chance at joining, but he is a more probable candidate than Rebecca, as all of the Straw Hats have very loud, obvious senses of humour attributed to them.
#33 - asesiel (11/05/2013) [-]
Are you like an online reviewer? Because youkeep opening my eeys to these things. I don't know if you read Bleach, but THAT has slow placing and nothing ever happens in the chapter. A few swings of the sword here, some close up of body parts and end of chapter. At least OP sets things up for later...and Bartholomeo is hilarious but he has his own pirate crew and cut a guys tounge off. He only likes the SH because of what he's heard about them. He probably thinks Luffy is some cut throat pirate and I don't think Rebecca will join. It'll be too similar to Vivi. OR she will join and it'll be the opposite of Vivi cause she chose to stay in her kingdom.
#34 - snowshark (11/06/2013) [-]
I'm not a reviewer, I just understand the nature of critical thinking (something that should be taught in schools). And Bleach is slow paced because it isn't anywhere near as dense as One Piece. Kubo's artwork has become insanely minimal of late and any quality that Bleach may have had was thrown to the ground when Ichigo fought Kenpachi.
It set up the status-quo of how the fights would go from then on. Ichigo will be at a clear disadvantage, he will get a power up, he will win. It's how he beat Grimmerjow, It's how he beat Byakuya, it's how he beat Ulqiorra. Those power-ups pretty much meant the hollows were no longer a threat. No more fighting these interesting monsters with interesting backstories and saving dead people and all that jazz. The stories like the Parakeet and Inogue's brother spoke of a great deal of emotional heart the series could have had as well as a great deal of versatility.
However the SS comes along and now all Ichigo fights is other people with swords. Nobody in the SS besides Renji has a confrontation that is emotionally charged and even then it falls kind-of flat. The Arrancarr arc did bring interesting monsters back into the fray but rather than being mysterious and dangerous they were all defeated in pretty ridiculous manners and most of them weren't even handled by the main characters, rather by secondary characters who came in to steal the thunder.
The most emotionally charged fight of that arc and my personal high-point is the fight with Aaroniero Arruruerie, the most monstrous of the Espada both in his aesthetic and his backstory. Can you imagine what Bleach would have been like without Aizen and the Soul Society arc? The things that could have been done with the interesting designs of the different types of hollows? Maybe Chad would actually get to beat someone related to the plot rather than getting curb-stomped by any real antagonist he comes across.
And maybe Inoue wouldn't have been totally broken by screaming for help.
#35 - asesiel (11/07/2013) [-]
The stuff you write is great. It's so true though. Did you know that Urahara was originally planned ot be the mastermind behind all it but then Kubo thought it would be amazing to have Aizen be the bad guy after he killed him off. It makes no sense why Aizen would go through all that trouble when he could just manipulate all their senses and go unnoticed. Can you imagine how much better Bleach would be if he didn't just make these plot twists for the sake of shocking the reader? and every arc is always the same: Orihime does nothing, Chad beats easy people and then is curbstomped by enemy that lets him live. Uryu surives the longest but is finally beaten by someone outlcassing him, but unline Ichig, doesn't get a power up and loses there. Alos, every arc has the same character archetypes. Hotblooded antagonist: Renji, Grimjow, Bazzbee, Calm guy that has conflict with the hotblooded guy: Byakuya, Ulquiorra, Hashwaldt, Villain leader who always thinks 1000 steps ahead, slick hair and a shit eating grin Aizen, Jugo, Ywach. People only read this eries to see how it's going to end. For others, it's so bad, it's good.
#36 - snowshark (11/07/2013) [-]
Except in the Soul Society Ishida gets a power up and beats Maiyuri in what is one of the most genuine acts of good writing in the series. One of consequence and tension related to a character.
And the hotblooded antagonists I can forgive because whilst Renji is kind of boring Grimmerjow is a very strongly realised character with interesting backstory and motivations. In fact, most of the arrancarr were. Tier Harribel, Coyote Stark, Ulquiorra Schiffer, Noritora Gilger, Neriel Tu Oderschevank, Barragan Louisenbairn, and a bunch of the fraccion like Apache or Sun Sun.
Rather than the fairly mundane lives of the shinigami of the last arc the Arrancar for the most part had to struggle and claw their way from the bottom to get to where they were. There was a lot of power and history implicit in the very existence of every one of them that spoke to a harrowing social order and a world completely hostile and unlike our own. The existence of Tier Harribel's selflessness or Barragan's dominance or Grimmerjow's strong leadership skills is so interesting and unusual that it elevates them past regular bad guys.
It speaks to Kubo's strength as a writer which has always been world-building. He was able to create a very interesting world and set characters afloat in it and even the little developments like the Fullbringers or the non-canon developments in the anime fillers go out of their way to be both creative and visually striking in some regard.
Recently you can tell he has no fucks left to give but when he was on form he was rarely dull. That said... the moment you give him a narrative to work with he falls the fuck apart. Unlike One Piece's Eiichiro Oda who is a master at both world building and narrative crafting Kubo is and always has been limited. It's the same to a degree with Masashi Kishimoto (Naruto) and Hiro Mashima (Fairy Tail). It shows how important world-building is for a good manga. A strong world appears to be more beneficial than a strong narrative.
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