Indeed.
But it's also not a fact that people haven't seen God.

thats a double negation.

"But there is not even one single Christian who has seen god. "
You claim to know that nobody has ever seen god (assumed you meant because he doesn't exist)
Regardless, this is still a claim of knowledge.
One you cannot prove.

"I just said, noone can proof the existence of god. And noone can proof, that people actually saw him or her or it... "
Agreed, but you also cannot prove that they didn't
That's my only point.

so till you can't prove anything as truth you have to assume, it isn't true. Thats logic. Thats sane thinking.

Assume, yes.
Claim to know, no.

I agree.
see #217

Thank you. So if you can't proof anything, you can't say it's a fact. It isn't a fact, that people seen God. Because we can't proof it's true.

Indeed.
But it's also not a fact that people haven't seen God.

thats a double negation.

"But you don't know, if anyone has seen god. You think it's true. But you can't proof peoples statement about seeing god. But you can proof the existence of vaginas. "
First off, I'm an atheist.
But secondly, you say that believing is not knowing. I agree
But you claim to know that god doesn't exist (or at least that nobody has seen him)
How do you know this?

"Do you at least agree with me, that believing is not knowing? "
Completely.

But do you agree that you don't know that there isn't a god?

Thats not true. I never said, i know there is no god. I just said, noone can proof the existence of god. And noone can proof, that people actually saw him or her or it...

"But there is not even one single Christian who has seen god. "
You claim to know that nobody has ever seen god (assumed you meant because he doesn't exist)
Regardless, this is still a claim of knowledge.
One you cannot prove.

"I just said, noone can proof the existence of god. And noone can proof, that people actually saw him or her or it... "
Agreed, but you also cannot prove that they didn't
That's my only point.

so till you can't prove anything as truth you have to assume, it isn't true. Thats logic. Thats sane thinking.

Assume, yes.
Claim to know, no.

Are you going to counter any of my points, or am I to see this random insult as you conceding?

It's just the thing that you are talking weird bullshit. I know people who claimed to see streetlights attacking them. But every sane Person knows, that streetlights just don't attack people. It's the same with people who claimed they have seen god. Nobody can proof it.

I agree.
see #217

Thank you. So if you can't proof anything, you can't say it's a fact. It isn't a fact, that people seen God. Because we can't proof it's true.

Indeed.
But it's also not a fact that people haven't seen God.

thats a double negation.

"If there is a cute kitten falling asleep, it will be seen."
"If a tree falls in a wood..."

"And you want to tell there are people, who has seen such a big thing like God?"
You're missing my point entirely
You claimed that "there is not even one single Christian who has seen god." You don't know this. So I equate it with the claim. People claim to have seen god (fact) people claim to have seen vaginas (fact) The difference between the two claims is that we have evidence that vaginas exist (internet) whereas we don't have any evidence that a god exists.

So you had your come out as a retard with this post or what?

Are you going to counter any of my points, or am I to see this random insult as you conceding?

It's just the thing that you are talking weird bullshit. I know people who claimed to see streetlights attacking them. But every sane Person knows, that streetlights just don't attack people. It's the same with people who claimed they have seen god. Nobody can proof it.

I agree.
see #217

Thank you. So if you can't proof anything, you can't say it's a fact. It isn't a fact, that people seen God. Because we can't proof it's true.

Indeed.
But it's also not a fact that people haven't seen God.

thats a double negation.

read #108

IT WAS A JOKE.

Wrong.
There are people who have claimed to see both.

Yeah, when they have been in some kind of delirium. Or they were just lying attention whores. I don't get, why christians just can't believe in what they whant to believe. And stop anoying other people.

read #108

I'm pretty sure there are people who have actually seen vaginas.

Sorry, I mistook you for chardey

No probs, I respect someone that can admit a mistake.
Also, I have to say I stand on your side in this argument.

" There are enough people who has seen them. But there is not even one single Christian who has seen god. "

You claim to know that there are people who have seen vaginas.
I could just as easily claim that I know that there are people who have seen god.

The difference is evidence.
Simply saying "people have seen X, therefore it exists" justifies belief in all mythologies and cryptozoological creatures (bigfoot)

People are hungry for sensation. If there is a cute kitten falling asleep, it will be seen. And you want to tell there are people, who has seen such a big thing like God? And not one single person took a picture or something? you just can't see god.

"If there is a cute kitten falling asleep, it will be seen."
"If a tree falls in a wood..."

"And you want to tell there are people, who has seen such a big thing like God?"
You're missing my point entirely
You claimed that "there is not even one single Christian who has seen god." You don't know this. So I equate it with the claim. People claim to have seen god (fact) people claim to have seen vaginas (fact) The difference between the two claims is that we have evidence that vaginas exist (internet) whereas we don't have any evidence that a god exists.

So you had your come out as a retard with this post or what?

Are you going to counter any of my points, or am I to see this random insult as you conceding?

It's just the thing that you are talking weird bullshit. I know people who claimed to see streetlights attacking them. But every sane Person knows, that streetlights just don't attack people. It's the same with people who claimed they have seen god. Nobody can proof it.

I agree.
see #217

Thank you. So if you can't proof anything, you can't say it's a fact. It isn't a fact, that people seen God. Because we can't proof it's true.

Indeed.
But it's also not a fact that people haven't seen God.

thats a double negation.

>Justifies belief. There's a difference between belief and an actual fact. People don't just "claim" to have seen a vagina. Surely people also have evidence of vaginas and it can simply be found by going on to google and search for vaginas.

We should just stop. The stupidity of some religious people is just as limitless as god himself...

"People don't just "claim" to have seen a vagina."
Until they prove their claim, it is just a claim.

"Surely people also have evidence of vaginas and it can simply be found by going on to google and search for vaginas. "
Agreed.

Difference is that everyone can see the vagina that the person claimed to see. Which isn't the case with those crazy people who claim to have seen god.

"But there is not even one single Christian who has seen god. "
This is the only reason I'm arguing with this person.

I completely agree with you.

And thats still the Truth. Believing is not knowing. Have you seen god? Well i know, that i have seen some vagina. And i know, that other people have.

But you don't know, if anyone has seen god. You think it's true. But you can't proof peoples statement about seeing god. But you can proof the existence of vaginas.

Thats my only Point. Do you at least agree with me, that believing is not knowing?

"But you don't know, if anyone has seen god. You think it's true. But you can't proof peoples statement about seeing god. But you can proof the existence of vaginas. "
First off, I'm an atheist.
But secondly, you say that believing is not knowing. I agree
But you claim to know that god doesn't exist (or at least that nobody has seen him)
How do you know this?

"Do you at least agree with me, that believing is not knowing? "
Completely.

But do you agree that you don't know that there isn't a god?

Thats not true. I never said, i know there is no god. I just said, noone can proof the existence of god. And noone can proof, that people actually saw him or her or it...

"But there is not even one single Christian who has seen god. "
You claim to know that nobody has ever seen god (assumed you meant because he doesn't exist)
Regardless, this is still a claim of knowledge.
One you cannot prove.

"I just said, noone can proof the existence of god. And noone can proof, that people actually saw him or her or it... "
Agreed, but you also cannot prove that they didn't
That's my only point.

so till you can't prove anything as truth you have to assume, it isn't true. Thats logic. Thats sane thinking.

Assume, yes.
Claim to know, no.

Alright then.

Yeah, Aldis is my fav store for cheap goodies :) ScottishFag here

Sainsbury's, motherfucker

Heeey, don't hate me!

No

He probably just mixed up Spain for Italy...

yeah he was italian, but the pope wouldnt fund his voyage so he went to Spain and queen isabella agreed to fund it.

Well, technically the Reign of Italy began in 1861, so Cristoforo Colombo was a Genovese... But if you say Italian you're quite right.