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#1 - The first minute of this sounds like a demonic Banjo Kazooie. 01/06/2015 on hidden gem 0
#29 - **castial used "*roll 6, pokemon*"** **castial rolls Mew** … 01/06/2015 on Pokemon team thread 0
#8 - Get back in your hole 12/16/2014 on Wake Up America +1
#24 - **castial used "*roll 2, pokemon*"** **castial rolls Cofagr… 12/16/2014 on Fusion Contest 2 0
#13 - Comment deleted 12/16/2014 on Russian Roulette 0
#5 - He's looking for the man who shot his paw 12/01/2014 on Wrong neighbourhood mada... +2
#25 - Buddy Killer Green 11/18/2014 on Big Bad Boy Washington 0
#17 - Florida didnt say no, 57% said yes but we needed 60%, majority…  [+] (17 new replies) 11/06/2014 on we did it 0
User avatar #18 - stifflimb (11/06/2014) [-]
Why?!
If majority wants it then it's what the majority wants
#54 - notrainbowdash (11/06/2014) [-]
because it would have amended their current state constitution and to do something as drastic as that, it needs an "overwhelming majority"
User avatar #57 - stifflimb (11/06/2014) [-]
Then that opens up the question why it even is a state constitution to have it illegal.
#22 - anonymous (11/06/2014) [-]
Sometimes statut quo is better than a marginal win.
User avatar #23 - stifflimb (11/06/2014) [-]
It's an election, democracy, if more than 50% wants it, it's supposed to happen, that's the whole idea behind it!
#29 - Penn (11/06/2014) [-]
Because if 51% of the population wants to kill all black people then the 49% will start a civil war. Split that close down the middle will cause everything to be destroyed. Just because it's a majority it doesn't mean that 'most' people want something. It's too close of a margin.
User avatar #50 - stifflimb (11/06/2014) [-]
Sure if it'a 2% that differers, but this was over 10% more in favor for one side.
But you'd be okey with killing all black people if 60% voted for it, good to know.
#51 - Penn (11/06/2014) [-]
It was 57% and no I was using that as an example. Even a retard could have figured that out.
User avatar #56 - stifflimb (11/06/2014) [-]
Yeah but it made a very bad example through that even if 60% voted for it it still would not happen.
Yes, 57% for, 43% against, meaning there's a difference of 14% more for voting it through.
#58 - Penn (11/06/2014) [-]
Let's put it this way:

At least 60% of the population must vote for it in order for it to pass.

Only 57% were for it.
User avatar #59 - stifflimb (11/07/2014) [-]
Yes I know cause it was a "state constitution", it still fucking stinks cause demacrocy got overturned, you can claim it wasnt but over 50% of the people voted for it and it was not accepted, it was overturned.
#61 - Penn (11/07/2014) [-]
I don't know what you think democracy is, but since the inception of this country there has never been a 51% needed to pass anything.

For a constitutional amendment to be passed both the House and the Senate need a 2/3 majority vote and the states require a 3/4 ratification.

I seriously have no idea what country you're talking about, but 51% has NEVER been enough in the states since it was first recognized as a country.

The Bill of Rights was created by following these exact rules. It wasn't 51%, it was 2/3 vote.

So, no, democracy didn't get overturned because 50% has never been an acceptable amount in this country. Ever.
User avatar #62 - stifflimb (11/07/2014) [-]
So you mean to tell me that there's never gonna be an someone getting elected US president cause he only got 55% of the votes?

In democracy majority decides, and it becomes majority as soon as it's over 50% to either side. More than half.
#64 - Penn (11/07/2014) [-]
In fact, here's some fun math for you about this country.

Since a candidate only needs 270 electoral votes to become president. This can be achieved by getting the popular vote of 11 states: CA, TX, NY, FL, PA, IL, OH, MI, GA, NC, and NJ.

If this happened (which it never will), that means that only 87,773,568 people would need to vote for a candidate in those states respectively. If that happens, then the president wins.

87,773,568 is only 27.8% of the US population.

Yes, a candidate can become president with only 27.8% of the US population for him.

I don't blame anyone for thinking that's stupid and unfair, but that's how this country was created. That is not a political party scam, that is not some loop hole for powerful politicians to take advantage of, that is literally how our founding fathers formed this country.

That is America at its core. For all of those reasons why the people wanted to create a 'just society,' this was, and still is, it.

So many people get so angry at government and think it's all bullshit when they don't even understand what our government is. We are not a democracy.

We are a democratic-republic (or a 'federal republic'). When did the American people forget this? When did we think that the government changed to a 'majority?' It is not unjust or unfair because this is exactly what we chose to have. This country has never changed in this sense. This system has always been since 1776. We are not a fucking democracy, never have been, and never will be.

The people have forgotten what kind of government they chose to have and now blame the system they created for their ignorance.

So, don't fucking say democracy has been overturned. We aren't a democracy.
User avatar #65 - stifflimb (11/07/2014) [-]
Yes where the states have a different value in voting form, I'm asking about the those valuesif he only would get 55% of those values would he not be elected?

Also yes I both believe it's a bit wrong while I at the same time sees the advantages in it.
Cause really the states of North America does at times seems just as split as the different countries in Europe.
I know it's not that bad but from what people hear it's not odd they would believe that.

And still almost weekly I hear how Americas claim they are a democracy, how democracy is the only American way, the only time we even hear about democratic-republic is in political debates, why would we start to believe you are not a democracy if 90% of your population does not seem to do so?
#63 - Penn (11/07/2014) [-]
Yes, I'm saying that if a presidential candidate receives 55% of the votes then he could still not become president. How do I know this? Because it's already happened four times.

-John Quincy Adams won over Andrew Jackson even though Jackson received 38,000 more votes than him
-Rutherford B. Hayes won even though Tilden received 250,000 more votes than him
-Benjamin Harrison won even though Cleveland received 90,000 more votes than him
-And, of course, the infamous George W. Bush election which Bush won even though Gore had 540,000 more votes than him.
#60 - Penn (11/07/2014) [-]
...because the margin is too close.
#51 - As a Florida native I can confirm this **** is cr…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/23/2014 on God is Amazing 0
User avatar #54 - fitemeirlbro (10/23/2014) [-]
if you want to see more crazy shit look at forida man and woman on twitter
#7 - Heil Hydra!! 09/24/2014 on What kind of money is this? +9
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