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#83 - Comment deleted 06/02/2014 on paradox 0
#14 - its like pokemon, 7-10 awesome and cool, 18-25 cool again! 06/02/2014 on 4chon +6
#1576 - **carneymaster rolled image ** 06/01/2014 on This is going up your butt 0
#16 - well nowadays that part is easy. wireless. 06/01/2014 on vw transformer -2
#8 - Does his dog have a masters degree in programming?  [+] (2 new replies) 05/28/2014 on The most intense gif +12
User avatar #11 - phisk (05/28/2014) [-]
No, does it need one?
User avatar #12 - notthepedobear (05/28/2014) [-]
i think a bachelors would be ok
#4 - I cant even understand how the dog fits into anything there  [+] (7 new replies) 05/27/2014 on The most intense gif +126
#56 - whywouldyoudothis (05/28/2014) [-]
Because fox news knows who the real villain is.
User avatar #38 - joaomartins (05/28/2014) [-]
It's the leader of Anonymous !
#14 - facefoot (05/28/2014) [-]
User avatar #6 - phisk (05/28/2014) [-]
In the news clip, the guy who was "threatened" on 4chan allegedly bought a dog to protect himself.
User avatar #8 - carneymaster (05/28/2014) [-]
Does his dog have a masters degree in programming?
User avatar #11 - phisk (05/28/2014) [-]
No, does it need one?
User avatar #12 - notthepedobear (05/28/2014) [-]
i think a bachelors would be ok
#8 - yeah done. 05/27/2014 on Louis CK on human nature -3
#6 - not to be to dickish, are you an Egyptologist?  [+] (3 new replies) 05/27/2014 on Louis CK on human nature -3
#22 - mr skeltal (05/28/2014) [-]
You aren't a Egyptologist either dipshit. People can know stuff without it being their full time profession.
User avatar #7 - anomorphous (05/27/2014) [-]
no, the source is like... one semi-biography and lots of browsing.
User avatar #8 - carneymaster (05/27/2014) [-]
yeah done.
#4 - um, are you sure being a slave back then was ****** …  [+] (6 new replies) 05/27/2014 on Louis CK on human nature -4
User avatar #5 - anomorphous (05/27/2014) [-]
Being anything but a priest or a noble was shitty in Egypt. Not 'oh god please kill me' shitty, just... unenjoyable. You work every day of your life or you starve kind of shitty. that's how the world was. not to mention there was no reason other than ritual to build the fucking triangles in the first place.
#21 - mr skeltal (05/28/2014) [-]
You just described majority of todays workforce. Nothing changed. If you're not working, you're free to starve and freeze somewhere and others will be glad that trash got thrown out.
User avatar #6 - carneymaster (05/27/2014) [-]
not to be to dickish, are you an Egyptologist?
#22 - mr skeltal (05/28/2014) [-]
You aren't a Egyptologist either dipshit. People can know stuff without it being their full time profession.
User avatar #7 - anomorphous (05/27/2014) [-]
no, the source is like... one semi-biography and lots of browsing.
User avatar #8 - carneymaster (05/27/2014) [-]
yeah done.
#34 - im almost 300lbs and these are hilarious and awesome. I used t…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/27/2014 on Fat Privilege Comp #1 0
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#4 - agnostics either dont care or are unsuer. 05/27/2014 on Debate - Faith Vs Logic 0
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#10 - when they wrote those laws back almost 300 years ago those guy…  [+] (12 new replies) 05/23/2014 on She has a point 0
User avatar #11 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement.
#17 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
well by that logic literally anyone should be able to get a gun, including that paranoid schizophrenic with violent tendencies. They don't have to prove they are capable to handling their rights. So I'm ok with some form of baseline that has to be meet for a person to get a gun. Guns are inherently dangerous and must be treated as such. Think of driving a car, you have to prove your responsible and trained to drive one. Its obviously not perfect but I believe some form of regulation is necessary, not having any just seems insanely irresponsible.
User avatar #19 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
driving a car is a privilege, not a right. the two are not comparable, end of discussion.

yeah, that hypothetical guy you are talking about has to pass a background check. there are some flaws in the background check. enough so to warrant a few small changes to the outlining systems that inform the NIC's checks, but not enough so that it needs to be redone or anything like that.
#22 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
It is simply and example. And why do you consider one a privilege and the other a right? Simply b/c the 2nd amendment says so?

And when you said "requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement." I took that to mean you found even background checks to be unacceptable.
User avatar #23 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No. a background check is not taking money, time from me and putting the responsibility on me, to prove I am legally able to obtain a weapon for my needs.
making people pay extra for an 8 hour or more class that is mandatory to prove I am able to handle my right, before I am legally granted my right, that is an infringement.

as for the car, yes. we have a freedom to travel unmolested. we don't have a RIGHT to drive a car. it is a privilege granted by each state to it's residence to be able to drive on public roads. If you would like to get further into it, you technically don't need to register or have a drivers license to own vehicles, either. it's private property, on private property therefor it's no one elses business what you do with them as long as it doesn't harm others. got 100 acres of farmland? buy a truck used and just throw the plates away if it's gonna stay on your property. laws!!
#24 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
Then we are in much more in agreement regarding gun control, what is this 8 hour class your talking about I've never needed to take that. But you haven't really told me WHY you think driving a car isn't a right, while having a gun is. I mean it is undeniably a more important thing for the average person to have in modern society. You can much more easily go through life without a gun than you can without a car.

And in reality I see cars and guns as interesting parallels. You can get a gun with just a background check and use in on your property no problem but you need classes and a carry permit to take it in public. Same with a car, just buy one and use in on your property no issue but you need training and a license to take in in public.
User avatar #25 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
up until the point you don't have a gun when you need it and your life ends.

I disagree with you, they are not parallels. and it isn't just a background check, as you put it, it sounds like it is almost nothing. There is a lot of information put into a background check, and the important parts ARE comparable to a car registration. the difference is that it is illegal to form a firearm registration with the information given.
I don't need classes or a permit to carry in public. i can open carry all I want.

there was a very well done video on this topic that I will continue looking for and be back.
#29 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
"up until the point you don't have a gun and you need it and your life ends" yes i will agree with you but for 99.8% of society that will never occur which is why I said "more important for the average person." Without a car I can't get to work, I can't get anywhere...literally. There is no public transit where I live so without a car I would be SOL instantly without a gun nothing really changes. I love my guns but my car is much more important to have.

And the carrying depends where you are. For me I would need a class and a permit, which in my opinion is reasonable. Its basically seeing if you have the responsibility necessary to have a firearm in public, its not preventing you from owning a gun in anyway. With completely unregulated carry I see a common bar fight that would normally end in a black eye now ends with 2 dead because everyone was just able to open carry. I think you should be able to carry in public but having some form of class/training or something seems reasonable.
User avatar #45 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
Concealed Carry: Better To Have It & Not Need It

Not what I meant, but a good related video none the less... also done by the guy I was talking about... I just can't find that fucking car compared to gun video. :/

doktorwhat, carneymaster, cavysblack
User avatar #31 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
mandating it, is not reasonable when it's a right. I am able to carry, just like all the other thousands of CPL carryiers in my state without a class, and without training and with minimal time between paying for and passing a BG check to get a license to actually having it. I have a RIGHT to bear arms for me (and my families) defense that should not be held back, or prolonged in any unreasonable way.

Most people I've talked to, well 60+% never have needed their guns yet. but I know a lot of people from a lot of walks of life who are still here cause of it. I've even had a time when I was seconds from needing to draw my gun for my safety but managed to get out of that situation. I stand by the type of system we have here in WA, cause it absolutely works.

"Driving is a priveledge, NOT a BORN RIGHT as an amercan citizen you have no legal Rigt to drive a car." - some comment I found. lol
#50 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
The government has the right to infringe on your rights so long as they go by due process or if the Supreme Court decides to rule a certain way in a case. Free Speech has been restricted, I mean if you look at Libel/Slander laws it's technically infringing my right to say whatever I want about a person but we agree it's a good thing to restrict. Also gag orders on the media is technically preventing them from free speech.

User avatar #57 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No, I don't agree it's right. fuck these infringements.
#8 - same in florida. But you require courses to conceal carry. But…  [+] (16 new replies) 05/23/2014 on She has a point 0
User avatar #9 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
18 for a long gun or shotgun, 21 for handguns. Handguns without a concealed carry license have 5 day wait period. with a CPL it is instant(no wait period).
no license needed to open carry here, and I even think as young as 14 or 16 can carry a long gun openly while just walking around and what not as long as they have parents permission. LEGALLY you could even walk around with a gun in you hand if you wanted to as long as it is in a non threatening manner, but I've never seen anyone actually do that.
conceal pistol license here is only $55 so it's not really an outrageous amount. and it's mostly for time of officers to get your background check done ($15) and your fingerprinting, and the filing.

My viewpoint on REQUIRING training to get a license is that it is an infringement to our right to bear arms, and adequately defend ourselves. OR requires it but everyone I know who has one says it's basically an 8 hour class on gun safety and then you shoot a few rounds at a stationary target. :/ not really "training" if you ask me. just an arbitrary expense and waste of time to make it a little harder for them to get there license. It'd probably be hard to find a state wide violent crime statistic that is completely based on fact to point to washington having a higher crime rate or gun accident rate then OR and we don't have ANY required training involved AND OR last I remember was a 1 in 20 (I believe, or it was 22) concealed carry rate, and they have a smaller overall gun to citizen ratio then us too.
#20 - dingywingy (05/23/2014) [-]
You can buy a pistol at the age of 18 through private purchase from another citizen..
User avatar #21 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
true
User avatar #10 - carneymaster (05/23/2014) [-]
when they wrote those laws back almost 300 years ago those guys respected guns and were taught long and hard how to use them. Now a days that isnt done. Why shouldnt we have to go through the same kind of training our forefathers did to use a gun?
User avatar #11 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement.
#17 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
well by that logic literally anyone should be able to get a gun, including that paranoid schizophrenic with violent tendencies. They don't have to prove they are capable to handling their rights. So I'm ok with some form of baseline that has to be meet for a person to get a gun. Guns are inherently dangerous and must be treated as such. Think of driving a car, you have to prove your responsible and trained to drive one. Its obviously not perfect but I believe some form of regulation is necessary, not having any just seems insanely irresponsible.
User avatar #19 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
driving a car is a privilege, not a right. the two are not comparable, end of discussion.

yeah, that hypothetical guy you are talking about has to pass a background check. there are some flaws in the background check. enough so to warrant a few small changes to the outlining systems that inform the NIC's checks, but not enough so that it needs to be redone or anything like that.
#22 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
It is simply and example. And why do you consider one a privilege and the other a right? Simply b/c the 2nd amendment says so?

And when you said "requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement." I took that to mean you found even background checks to be unacceptable.
User avatar #23 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No. a background check is not taking money, time from me and putting the responsibility on me, to prove I am legally able to obtain a weapon for my needs.
making people pay extra for an 8 hour or more class that is mandatory to prove I am able to handle my right, before I am legally granted my right, that is an infringement.

as for the car, yes. we have a freedom to travel unmolested. we don't have a RIGHT to drive a car. it is a privilege granted by each state to it's residence to be able to drive on public roads. If you would like to get further into it, you technically don't need to register or have a drivers license to own vehicles, either. it's private property, on private property therefor it's no one elses business what you do with them as long as it doesn't harm others. got 100 acres of farmland? buy a truck used and just throw the plates away if it's gonna stay on your property. laws!!
#24 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
Then we are in much more in agreement regarding gun control, what is this 8 hour class your talking about I've never needed to take that. But you haven't really told me WHY you think driving a car isn't a right, while having a gun is. I mean it is undeniably a more important thing for the average person to have in modern society. You can much more easily go through life without a gun than you can without a car.

And in reality I see cars and guns as interesting parallels. You can get a gun with just a background check and use in on your property no problem but you need classes and a carry permit to take it in public. Same with a car, just buy one and use in on your property no issue but you need training and a license to take in in public.
User avatar #25 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
up until the point you don't have a gun when you need it and your life ends.

I disagree with you, they are not parallels. and it isn't just a background check, as you put it, it sounds like it is almost nothing. There is a lot of information put into a background check, and the important parts ARE comparable to a car registration. the difference is that it is illegal to form a firearm registration with the information given.
I don't need classes or a permit to carry in public. i can open carry all I want.

there was a very well done video on this topic that I will continue looking for and be back.
#29 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
"up until the point you don't have a gun and you need it and your life ends" yes i will agree with you but for 99.8% of society that will never occur which is why I said "more important for the average person." Without a car I can't get to work, I can't get anywhere...literally. There is no public transit where I live so without a car I would be SOL instantly without a gun nothing really changes. I love my guns but my car is much more important to have.

And the carrying depends where you are. For me I would need a class and a permit, which in my opinion is reasonable. Its basically seeing if you have the responsibility necessary to have a firearm in public, its not preventing you from owning a gun in anyway. With completely unregulated carry I see a common bar fight that would normally end in a black eye now ends with 2 dead because everyone was just able to open carry. I think you should be able to carry in public but having some form of class/training or something seems reasonable.
User avatar #45 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
Concealed Carry: Better To Have It & Not Need It

Not what I meant, but a good related video none the less... also done by the guy I was talking about... I just can't find that fucking car compared to gun video. :/

doktorwhat, carneymaster, cavysblack
User avatar #31 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
mandating it, is not reasonable when it's a right. I am able to carry, just like all the other thousands of CPL carryiers in my state without a class, and without training and with minimal time between paying for and passing a BG check to get a license to actually having it. I have a RIGHT to bear arms for me (and my families) defense that should not be held back, or prolonged in any unreasonable way.

Most people I've talked to, well 60+% never have needed their guns yet. but I know a lot of people from a lot of walks of life who are still here cause of it. I've even had a time when I was seconds from needing to draw my gun for my safety but managed to get out of that situation. I stand by the type of system we have here in WA, cause it absolutely works.

"Driving is a priveledge, NOT a BORN RIGHT as an amercan citizen you have no legal Rigt to drive a car." - some comment I found. lol
#50 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
The government has the right to infringe on your rights so long as they go by due process or if the Supreme Court decides to rule a certain way in a case. Free Speech has been restricted, I mean if you look at Libel/Slander laws it's technically infringing my right to say whatever I want about a person but we agree it's a good thing to restrict. Also gag orders on the media is technically preventing them from free speech.

User avatar #57 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No, I don't agree it's right. fuck these infringements.
#12 - in the UK violent crimes arent down, just violent gun crimes. … 05/23/2014 on Adding fuel to the fire +2
#6 - im kinda torn between wanting to move to such a state and avoi…  [+] (18 new replies) 05/23/2014 on She has a point 0
User avatar #7 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
there are idiots everywhere... it's "normal" now. :/
You want laxed? lol Here you don't even train, you just pay filing fees, do the background check and fingerprint check through the pentagon (takes about 15mintues) then 2 days later I had a carry license. Adding the fact that washington is about every 1 in 10(maybe it was 12) people have a valid/current concealed carry license and you would think it's all a bunch of crime. but as long as you avoid the liberal areas, like seattle, Everett, olympia and Tacoma you are most likely living in a low violent crime town.
People are always surprised when I tell them that, but I've spent my whole 23 years of life in this state and in 4 different towns and have yet to even witness a crime larger then shoplifting.
User avatar #8 - carneymaster (05/23/2014) [-]
same in florida. But you require courses to conceal carry. But you do not need a licence to buy a gun just be 21 or older. Handguns only require a 3 day wait period. But most people in the area are to poor to stupid to get a gun.
User avatar #9 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
18 for a long gun or shotgun, 21 for handguns. Handguns without a concealed carry license have 5 day wait period. with a CPL it is instant(no wait period).
no license needed to open carry here, and I even think as young as 14 or 16 can carry a long gun openly while just walking around and what not as long as they have parents permission. LEGALLY you could even walk around with a gun in you hand if you wanted to as long as it is in a non threatening manner, but I've never seen anyone actually do that.
conceal pistol license here is only $55 so it's not really an outrageous amount. and it's mostly for time of officers to get your background check done ($15) and your fingerprinting, and the filing.

My viewpoint on REQUIRING training to get a license is that it is an infringement to our right to bear arms, and adequately defend ourselves. OR requires it but everyone I know who has one says it's basically an 8 hour class on gun safety and then you shoot a few rounds at a stationary target. :/ not really "training" if you ask me. just an arbitrary expense and waste of time to make it a little harder for them to get there license. It'd probably be hard to find a state wide violent crime statistic that is completely based on fact to point to washington having a higher crime rate or gun accident rate then OR and we don't have ANY required training involved AND OR last I remember was a 1 in 20 (I believe, or it was 22) concealed carry rate, and they have a smaller overall gun to citizen ratio then us too.
#20 - dingywingy (05/23/2014) [-]
You can buy a pistol at the age of 18 through private purchase from another citizen..
User avatar #21 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
true
User avatar #10 - carneymaster (05/23/2014) [-]
when they wrote those laws back almost 300 years ago those guys respected guns and were taught long and hard how to use them. Now a days that isnt done. Why shouldnt we have to go through the same kind of training our forefathers did to use a gun?
User avatar #11 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement.
#17 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
well by that logic literally anyone should be able to get a gun, including that paranoid schizophrenic with violent tendencies. They don't have to prove they are capable to handling their rights. So I'm ok with some form of baseline that has to be meet for a person to get a gun. Guns are inherently dangerous and must be treated as such. Think of driving a car, you have to prove your responsible and trained to drive one. Its obviously not perfect but I believe some form of regulation is necessary, not having any just seems insanely irresponsible.
User avatar #19 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
driving a car is a privilege, not a right. the two are not comparable, end of discussion.

yeah, that hypothetical guy you are talking about has to pass a background check. there are some flaws in the background check. enough so to warrant a few small changes to the outlining systems that inform the NIC's checks, but not enough so that it needs to be redone or anything like that.
#22 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
It is simply and example. And why do you consider one a privilege and the other a right? Simply b/c the 2nd amendment says so?

And when you said "requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement." I took that to mean you found even background checks to be unacceptable.
User avatar #23 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No. a background check is not taking money, time from me and putting the responsibility on me, to prove I am legally able to obtain a weapon for my needs.
making people pay extra for an 8 hour or more class that is mandatory to prove I am able to handle my right, before I am legally granted my right, that is an infringement.

as for the car, yes. we have a freedom to travel unmolested. we don't have a RIGHT to drive a car. it is a privilege granted by each state to it's residence to be able to drive on public roads. If you would like to get further into it, you technically don't need to register or have a drivers license to own vehicles, either. it's private property, on private property therefor it's no one elses business what you do with them as long as it doesn't harm others. got 100 acres of farmland? buy a truck used and just throw the plates away if it's gonna stay on your property. laws!!
#24 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
Then we are in much more in agreement regarding gun control, what is this 8 hour class your talking about I've never needed to take that. But you haven't really told me WHY you think driving a car isn't a right, while having a gun is. I mean it is undeniably a more important thing for the average person to have in modern society. You can much more easily go through life without a gun than you can without a car.

And in reality I see cars and guns as interesting parallels. You can get a gun with just a background check and use in on your property no problem but you need classes and a carry permit to take it in public. Same with a car, just buy one and use in on your property no issue but you need training and a license to take in in public.
User avatar #25 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
up until the point you don't have a gun when you need it and your life ends.

I disagree with you, they are not parallels. and it isn't just a background check, as you put it, it sounds like it is almost nothing. There is a lot of information put into a background check, and the important parts ARE comparable to a car registration. the difference is that it is illegal to form a firearm registration with the information given.
I don't need classes or a permit to carry in public. i can open carry all I want.

there was a very well done video on this topic that I will continue looking for and be back.
#29 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
"up until the point you don't have a gun and you need it and your life ends" yes i will agree with you but for 99.8% of society that will never occur which is why I said "more important for the average person." Without a car I can't get to work, I can't get anywhere...literally. There is no public transit where I live so without a car I would be SOL instantly without a gun nothing really changes. I love my guns but my car is much more important to have.

And the carrying depends where you are. For me I would need a class and a permit, which in my opinion is reasonable. Its basically seeing if you have the responsibility necessary to have a firearm in public, its not preventing you from owning a gun in anyway. With completely unregulated carry I see a common bar fight that would normally end in a black eye now ends with 2 dead because everyone was just able to open carry. I think you should be able to carry in public but having some form of class/training or something seems reasonable.
User avatar #45 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
Concealed Carry: Better To Have It & Not Need It

Not what I meant, but a good related video none the less... also done by the guy I was talking about... I just can't find that fucking car compared to gun video. :/

doktorwhat, carneymaster, cavysblack
User avatar #31 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
mandating it, is not reasonable when it's a right. I am able to carry, just like all the other thousands of CPL carryiers in my state without a class, and without training and with minimal time between paying for and passing a BG check to get a license to actually having it. I have a RIGHT to bear arms for me (and my families) defense that should not be held back, or prolonged in any unreasonable way.

Most people I've talked to, well 60+% never have needed their guns yet. but I know a lot of people from a lot of walks of life who are still here cause of it. I've even had a time when I was seconds from needing to draw my gun for my safety but managed to get out of that situation. I stand by the type of system we have here in WA, cause it absolutely works.

"Driving is a priveledge, NOT a BORN RIGHT as an amercan citizen you have no legal Rigt to drive a car." - some comment I found. lol
#50 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
The government has the right to infringe on your rights so long as they go by due process or if the Supreme Court decides to rule a certain way in a case. Free Speech has been restricted, I mean if you look at Libel/Slander laws it's technically infringing my right to say whatever I want about a person but we agree it's a good thing to restrict. Also gag orders on the media is technically preventing them from free speech.

User avatar #57 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No, I don't agree it's right. fuck these infringements.
#4 - thats in your state. In most states you have to abide by that …  [+] (23 new replies) 05/23/2014 on She has a point 0
#18 - dingywingy (05/23/2014) [-]
Putting a sign on the front of your buisness that says no guns does not make it against the law to enter that building with a gun.. that sign has absolutly no legal standing..

However if they ask you to leave and you do not you are now breaking the law..
#60 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
you come to my state and try that shit you will get yourself shot. the sign does matter your just a dumbass.
#63 - dingywingy (05/23/2014) [-]
What the fuck are you talking about?? lol you are an idiot those signs have absolutly no legal standing because I can just say i didnt see it..

If i walk into a buisness with a no gun sign I can not be prosecuted at that point but if they tell me to leave and i refuse thats a different story..

And you sound stupid as fuck saying i will be shot because i enter a building with a no firearms sign in the front which is prolly why you commented anonymous... im curious as to what state you live in where people shoot people who have guns for simply ignoring a sign... fucking 12 year olds man..
User avatar #5 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
federal buildings yes, the rest of those, no. I am allowed to carry in state and county buildings as they have to abide by state law.

also, you would be surprised how many states are the same as mine in the respect of not having to even acknowledge those signs on businesses and general buildings and areas once you have a conceal carry license.
User avatar #6 - carneymaster (05/23/2014) [-]
im kinda torn between wanting to move to such a state and avoiding them. Sounds good in theory, but i dont even trust most people to drive. If im driving i just consider everyone else as morons and that they can and will do the dumbest possible thing at the worst possible time. worked out so far, i would probably do the same to any state with lax gun laws. Just cause i dont trust people. P.S: this is from a florida view point, the state is filled with idiots.
User avatar #7 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
there are idiots everywhere... it's "normal" now. :/
You want laxed? lol Here you don't even train, you just pay filing fees, do the background check and fingerprint check through the pentagon (takes about 15mintues) then 2 days later I had a carry license. Adding the fact that washington is about every 1 in 10(maybe it was 12) people have a valid/current concealed carry license and you would think it's all a bunch of crime. but as long as you avoid the liberal areas, like seattle, Everett, olympia and Tacoma you are most likely living in a low violent crime town.
People are always surprised when I tell them that, but I've spent my whole 23 years of life in this state and in 4 different towns and have yet to even witness a crime larger then shoplifting.
User avatar #8 - carneymaster (05/23/2014) [-]
same in florida. But you require courses to conceal carry. But you do not need a licence to buy a gun just be 21 or older. Handguns only require a 3 day wait period. But most people in the area are to poor to stupid to get a gun.
User avatar #9 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
18 for a long gun or shotgun, 21 for handguns. Handguns without a concealed carry license have 5 day wait period. with a CPL it is instant(no wait period).
no license needed to open carry here, and I even think as young as 14 or 16 can carry a long gun openly while just walking around and what not as long as they have parents permission. LEGALLY you could even walk around with a gun in you hand if you wanted to as long as it is in a non threatening manner, but I've never seen anyone actually do that.
conceal pistol license here is only $55 so it's not really an outrageous amount. and it's mostly for time of officers to get your background check done ($15) and your fingerprinting, and the filing.

My viewpoint on REQUIRING training to get a license is that it is an infringement to our right to bear arms, and adequately defend ourselves. OR requires it but everyone I know who has one says it's basically an 8 hour class on gun safety and then you shoot a few rounds at a stationary target. :/ not really "training" if you ask me. just an arbitrary expense and waste of time to make it a little harder for them to get there license. It'd probably be hard to find a state wide violent crime statistic that is completely based on fact to point to washington having a higher crime rate or gun accident rate then OR and we don't have ANY required training involved AND OR last I remember was a 1 in 20 (I believe, or it was 22) concealed carry rate, and they have a smaller overall gun to citizen ratio then us too.
#20 - dingywingy (05/23/2014) [-]
You can buy a pistol at the age of 18 through private purchase from another citizen..
User avatar #21 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
true
User avatar #10 - carneymaster (05/23/2014) [-]
when they wrote those laws back almost 300 years ago those guys respected guns and were taught long and hard how to use them. Now a days that isnt done. Why shouldnt we have to go through the same kind of training our forefathers did to use a gun?
User avatar #11 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement.
#17 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
well by that logic literally anyone should be able to get a gun, including that paranoid schizophrenic with violent tendencies. They don't have to prove they are capable to handling their rights. So I'm ok with some form of baseline that has to be meet for a person to get a gun. Guns are inherently dangerous and must be treated as such. Think of driving a car, you have to prove your responsible and trained to drive one. Its obviously not perfect but I believe some form of regulation is necessary, not having any just seems insanely irresponsible.
User avatar #19 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
driving a car is a privilege, not a right. the two are not comparable, end of discussion.

yeah, that hypothetical guy you are talking about has to pass a background check. there are some flaws in the background check. enough so to warrant a few small changes to the outlining systems that inform the NIC's checks, but not enough so that it needs to be redone or anything like that.
#22 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
It is simply and example. And why do you consider one a privilege and the other a right? Simply b/c the 2nd amendment says so?

And when you said "requiring me, to prove to my government that I am capable of handling my right, that is an infringement." I took that to mean you found even background checks to be unacceptable.
User avatar #23 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No. a background check is not taking money, time from me and putting the responsibility on me, to prove I am legally able to obtain a weapon for my needs.
making people pay extra for an 8 hour or more class that is mandatory to prove I am able to handle my right, before I am legally granted my right, that is an infringement.

as for the car, yes. we have a freedom to travel unmolested. we don't have a RIGHT to drive a car. it is a privilege granted by each state to it's residence to be able to drive on public roads. If you would like to get further into it, you technically don't need to register or have a drivers license to own vehicles, either. it's private property, on private property therefor it's no one elses business what you do with them as long as it doesn't harm others. got 100 acres of farmland? buy a truck used and just throw the plates away if it's gonna stay on your property. laws!!
#24 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
Then we are in much more in agreement regarding gun control, what is this 8 hour class your talking about I've never needed to take that. But you haven't really told me WHY you think driving a car isn't a right, while having a gun is. I mean it is undeniably a more important thing for the average person to have in modern society. You can much more easily go through life without a gun than you can without a car.

And in reality I see cars and guns as interesting parallels. You can get a gun with just a background check and use in on your property no problem but you need classes and a carry permit to take it in public. Same with a car, just buy one and use in on your property no issue but you need training and a license to take in in public.
User avatar #25 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
up until the point you don't have a gun when you need it and your life ends.

I disagree with you, they are not parallels. and it isn't just a background check, as you put it, it sounds like it is almost nothing. There is a lot of information put into a background check, and the important parts ARE comparable to a car registration. the difference is that it is illegal to form a firearm registration with the information given.
I don't need classes or a permit to carry in public. i can open carry all I want.

there was a very well done video on this topic that I will continue looking for and be back.
#29 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
"up until the point you don't have a gun and you need it and your life ends" yes i will agree with you but for 99.8% of society that will never occur which is why I said "more important for the average person." Without a car I can't get to work, I can't get anywhere...literally. There is no public transit where I live so without a car I would be SOL instantly without a gun nothing really changes. I love my guns but my car is much more important to have.

And the carrying depends where you are. For me I would need a class and a permit, which in my opinion is reasonable. Its basically seeing if you have the responsibility necessary to have a firearm in public, its not preventing you from owning a gun in anyway. With completely unregulated carry I see a common bar fight that would normally end in a black eye now ends with 2 dead because everyone was just able to open carry. I think you should be able to carry in public but having some form of class/training or something seems reasonable.
User avatar #45 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
Concealed Carry: Better To Have It & Not Need It

Not what I meant, but a good related video none the less... also done by the guy I was talking about... I just can't find that fucking car compared to gun video. :/

doktorwhat, carneymaster, cavysblack
User avatar #31 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
mandating it, is not reasonable when it's a right. I am able to carry, just like all the other thousands of CPL carryiers in my state without a class, and without training and with minimal time between paying for and passing a BG check to get a license to actually having it. I have a RIGHT to bear arms for me (and my families) defense that should not be held back, or prolonged in any unreasonable way.

Most people I've talked to, well 60+% never have needed their guns yet. but I know a lot of people from a lot of walks of life who are still here cause of it. I've even had a time when I was seconds from needing to draw my gun for my safety but managed to get out of that situation. I stand by the type of system we have here in WA, cause it absolutely works.

"Driving is a priveledge, NOT a BORN RIGHT as an amercan citizen you have no legal Rigt to drive a car." - some comment I found. lol
#50 - mr skeltal (05/23/2014) [-]
The government has the right to infringe on your rights so long as they go by due process or if the Supreme Court decides to rule a certain way in a case. Free Speech has been restricted, I mean if you look at Libel/Slander laws it's technically infringing my right to say whatever I want about a person but we agree it's a good thing to restrict. Also gag orders on the media is technically preventing them from free speech.

User avatar #57 - thegamerslife (05/23/2014) [-]
No, I don't agree it's right. fuck these infringements.
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pfff mutate? what disease or virus does that these days. All the cool ones go to the U.S to get artificially altered.
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