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#159 - The fact that you talk to me at all is more than many would gi… 06/19/2017 on Literal Cancer Degeneracy... 0

#156 - Are you mad? Even the founding fathers of America made the dis… [+] (10 replies) 06/19/2017 on Literal Cancer Degeneracy... -1

#158 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

Mad? Disagreement is the word youre looking for here.

'New' as in circa ~200 years old as a political doctrine. The intrinsic nature of the ideas you are talking about is nonexistent.

#162 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

Also, people here seem to be confused between genetic haplogroups, nationality, ethnicity, and 19th century pseudo-scientific attempts at discrete 'race'.

#161 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Intrinsic nature of my ideas? Non-existant? Jesus Christ, it's simple biology!!! MILLIONS of years old!

#164 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

See, that is exactly what I am getting at here. You are seeing evidence that proves one thing, and willfully making conjectures that suit your emotional convictions.

#165 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Could you speak plain English please?

#171 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

Sure, lemme break it down real quick I tried:
Haplogroups are groups of genes inherited from a single parent, and can be used to generally trace who one is descended from using 'markerks' in the genetic code.

I used it here to refer to the more concretely scientific morphological distinctions that exist between peoples, e.g. which can be used to more accurately draw what kind of genetic distinctions actually exist between who, as opposed to pseudo-scientific attempts at definine:
Races, which as discrete entities with one metaphysically superior to the other (as opposed to the strange 'foreigners'- Othello, or the Kings of the West African coast, to whom travellers arrived as to any strange foreign countr) of 'eyeballed' outside factors, and attempt at let's say assign variables for each principal feature, rather than actual genetic information: 'is this Irishman Ibero-Negroid, since they are all such idiot drunkard Catholic Scythian non-Europeans, as opposed to the glorious average, pristinely 'Caucasoid' (even the name was based on one of the huge amounts of theories people came up with to trace a clear-cut genealogy in which they could place themselves as protagonists) Englishman, whose feautures obviously reflect the Belvedere Appollo'.
Using the markers, you can come up with ways of somewhat defining/finding links between ethnicities, e.g. the designation 'Congoloid' for example, and, in a pinch, they can be useful in casual conversation, and to group together people superficially or for the cultural or other implications- as opposed to the more detailed genetic categorization; e.g. on average, black people have less enamel in their teeth, making them whiter but more vulnerable to erosion- that doesn't mean they belong to an intrinsic categorization, it is just that the casual racial classification overlaps with the genetic modifying factors which bring about the differences: i.e. race is classification after, and genetics is in terms of actual cause and difference.

Nationality: A practical, political quality, stemming from earlier forms of fief-based belonging before the emergence of the modern state.

Ethnicity: A fairly fluid concept consisting of the results of movement and settlement of people in a given area, and the cultural and linguistic implications; generally associated with certain shared dominant genetic features. Ethnicities which in a majority share certain morphological qualities can be casually and imprecisely referred to as being part of a 'race', but that is not a result of mixing of some intrinsic variables, but genetics, and definitely not some kind of virtue-based version of Lamarckian evolution. Especially during the romantic era, and among Hegelian types, there was a tendency to craft elaborate 'lineages' for nations, laying claim to the 'achievements' of one or the other- this often got ridiculous, especially like Polish nobility claiming a separate ethnicity stemming from the Sarmatian steppe nomad people, citing the non-European, abstract patterns in some of their heraldry, and their love for horses, as well as their preference for that ethos.

The main point is, however, is whatever traits can be predicted with a certain probability within a certain group based on correlation between one feature and another (and when it comes to neurology, and beyond what we know is most likely for the most part inheritable, such as IQ, it gets so fuzzy and variable that cultural factors are the only ones that really bring about conformity- as you balance out environmental factors between people, the natural genetic differences in predisposition between them , even members of the same 'race' start showing much more) it gets a lot more fuzzy, it is still pointless as a tool for judging individuals, as we act on people based on their individual merit and actions- i.e. whether or not someone is a 'hood-rat' would for example be important, rather than whether or not someone is black or white.

#179 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Nope, still seeing the way I did earlier.

#244 - themaninacan (06/20/2017) [-]

Elaborate then.

#174 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Hang on, let me re-read this ,and digest it, maybe I went through too fast.

#173 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

All I'm getting from this is that my point is 100% valid, until you get down to looking at people on an individual basis, and disregard all patterns of their group, or that they have a group at all.

#145 - Please, you can't continue like this, I can show you. I don't … 06/19/2017 on Literal Cancer Degeneracy... -2

#143 - So do you follow me around or something? 06/19/2017 on Literal Cancer Degeneracy... 0

#141 - My god you scare me. You have no idea what ******** you're ped… [+] (12 replies) 06/19/2017 on Literal Cancer Degeneracy... -3

#151 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

The definition of a German has never been that anyway, period. The whole concept is a new and fluid thing used by some out of convenience to make retrospective 'claims' in favour of their group identity.

#156 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Are you mad? Even the founding fathers of America made the distinction between races and ethnicity, it's not new at all!!!

#158 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

Mad? Disagreement is the word youre looking for here.

'New' as in circa ~200 years old as a political doctrine. The intrinsic nature of the ideas you are talking about is nonexistent.

#162 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

Also, people here seem to be confused between genetic haplogroups, nationality, ethnicity, and 19th century pseudo-scientific attempts at discrete 'race'.

#161 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Intrinsic nature of my ideas? Non-existant? Jesus Christ, it's simple biology!!! MILLIONS of years old!

#164 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

See, that is exactly what I am getting at here. You are seeing evidence that proves one thing, and willfully making conjectures that suit your emotional convictions.

#165 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Could you speak plain English please?

#171 - themaninacan (06/19/2017) [-]

#179 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Nope, still seeing the way I did earlier.

#244 - themaninacan (06/20/2017) [-]

Elaborate then.

#174 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

Hang on, let me re-read this ,and digest it, maybe I went through too fast.

#173 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

All I'm getting from this is that my point is 100% valid, until you get down to looking at people on an individual basis, and disregard all patterns of their group, or that they have a group at all.

#139 - Also, please respond to this account now, thank you. [+] (2 replies) 06/19/2017 on Literal Cancer Degeneracy... 0

#149 - kronk (06/19/2017) [-]

You raise alot of intersting points sadly my education in biology only goes to a highschool level so i don't feel confident arguing with you on these matters.

>Would you argue that the best course for humanity is to remove all diversity then? How boring a world.

Your personality makes you interesting not your race... at least that's how i see it. Of course your race may play a small part in it but it is mainly ditermind by your upbringing ie culture.

Of course i'm not accusing you of hate at least that was not my entention. Shotting down speech is the worst thing i could think of. I simply wanted to understand wether this argument went deeper than just a fear of the unknown, which you have demstrated that it does, so thank you that. I wish was better equiped to talk about this stuff with but sadly my specialties lay in computer science not biology.

Also sorry to say it's getter rather late here in denmark it is in fact 00:33 am right now so getting kinda tired.

#159 - carlonord (06/19/2017) [-]

The fact that you talk to me at all is more than many would give me. If you're interested, I have the data that can prove me right. All sourced.

Hell, if you want an anecdote, even the Co-discoverer of DNA, Mr. James Watson, said that the reason blacks perform so terribly is that all our social policies assume that we are equal to them.

But have a good night mate, and take care.

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