i dont think this really happens to anyone outside of the sake of a punchline, and Dw I wish I could

Yup, here ya go.

Kinda agree that new players should have some mods for vehicles. But on the other hand it's highly recommended to start as infantry, preferably as engineer or medic to boost cert gain, learn the game and after that invest into vehicles. + in outfits people are often kind enough to lend their fully upgraded vehicles for you.

In the end you can't gain any real edge over others by buying stuff with money. But guess in this case it depends on if you want to jump into vehicles right away.

p2w would mean that the player would never unlock a certain weapon/gear tier with noticeably better stats, unless spending a certain amount of real life currency on the game. from what i've seen ps2 only offers the ability to unlock every equipment with real money, instead of grinding for it for a long time, aside from the cosmetics - such as outfits and skins - which are to no benefit of the gameplay. so i guess, as you said, it is not p2w, but pay to not grind, or pay to look good..

Care to explain why you think PlanetSide 2 is "pay to win"?

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**captaingrif rolled image**All Weapons, modifications and vehicle modification can be bought with real money, granted you can get them without real money but it takes a lot of time and the advantage of someone who has bought items compared to someone who hasn't bought them is pretty damn clear. I'm not saying its a bad game I use love, I even played the beta, but it is drastically unfair to new players.

Kinda agree that new players should have some mods for vehicles. But on the other hand it's highly recommended to start as infantry, preferably as engineer or medic to boost cert gain, learn the game and after that invest into vehicles. + in outfits people are often kind enough to lend their fully upgraded vehicles for you.

In the end you can't gain any real edge over others by buying stuff with money. But guess in this case it depends on if you want to jump into vehicles right away.