Well some of them certainly cut themselves and attempt it enough. But if course they're just doing it figuratively, right? Not to mention every other person in North America and Europe, where the standard of living is generally above par, who have killed themselves

You're right, it's in human nature to want to live and to struggle for life, however there are also many people who would prefer death than to deal with life and its consequences. I understand your moral compass guides you into making the decision that a fetus is a human, but it's not anymore than an egg IS a chicken. If you truly believed that every single thing that even has the POTENTIAL to live, should live, then you would be fighting for the rights of far more than just fetuses, and you would be doing that instead of arguing over the internet

consciousness starts after just a few weeks of impregnation, so yeah, its human you idiot

But you said it has the potential to be one, which I covered

You may be right, but it would also be born in horrible living conditions (if her parents aren't supportive) and would be treated as a curse for most of its life, not to mention the suffering it would go through if others found out about the situation. Honestly, I couldn't help but hate myself if my mother was raped and I was conceived from it, because everytime I looked in the mirror I would see HIM starring back at me

The point of the content, though, is that guys view a breakup as the two of them splitting up, whereas girls will view it as a change in partners. The guy doesn't want the girl to suffer from the split, and the girl doesn't want HERSELF to suffer from the lack of having a boyfriend.

That's a shitty attitude to have about ANYTHING.

True. But even so that is still the mind-set of the opportunist, and girls are good at that type of thing. Once you understand something, you can remove emotions from the equation

The question is should you, though? Science, which is perhaps the one field in human intelligence that uses the least amount of "emotion" even asks the question of whether or not we should eliminate emotion from the matter.

This is especially true when you realize that relationships are supposed to be based on emotion.

But how far would Science get on a day to day basis if they constantly had to consider morals and ethics? Given the fact that Scientists DO have to, and that most "mad scientists" were either jailed, killed, or had their research destroyed, humanity has been held back hundreds if not thousands of years by simply deciding "Evolution ends where my feelings begin". Besides, something so subjective as morals and feelings hold no place among facts and truth

This isn't science, though, it's a relationship. I used science as a point to say that emotions are necessary for everything, especially relationships, which are supposed to be based purely on emotion. When you remove emotion from it, then there can't even effectively be a relationship.

Eh, I couldn't care less if I never had a relationship again, although I do understand others want them and totally support affection and love between a couple, I just don't see where that would have any place in evolution and research, the same way eating and going to the washroom simply don't go together

Besides, I never actually said whether you should or should not remove them, I just said you COULD if you so choose

My question was if you should, though. As far as evolution is concerned, even you should accept that it's all about working within the system in order to achieve the goal of propogating your genetic material, which sometimes requires the use of emotion.

But even that question in itself is left up to subjectivity, as it is with any philosophical thing; so no matter what either of us put forward, neither will actually be 'right'

Hypothetical situation:

Your girlfriend breaks up with you on the basis that you never put enough emotion into the relationship. Was emotion necessarity for success in that situation, or not?

What do you mean by success? (I only ask because I'd rather be certain before I come up with an answer)

Establishing a stable relationship for the sake of leading a better life for both yourself, and any children you would have, which would fulfill the evolutionary meed to propogate your genetic material.

Then yes it was, in this specific situation (as leading a 'good' life implies you are happy with where you are)

But you don't seem to get what I'm saying. What I'm trying to claim that between the understanding of men and women, when you remove passions and emotion from the problem (above), you can see WHY they behave this way in a clearer and more stable manner, and thus you can react better against it to suit your needs. I'm not saying you need to become totally apathetic, nor am I saying you must not feel anything at all

No, yes I understand that. As animals, we have this basic motivation for pretty much everything. The difference is being able to acknowledge that, and maybe even set it aside for something a little less shallow. Are inherent motivations that shallow? Yes, but you don't have to, and probably shuldn't, bring them up.

That makes sense. No idea why you got thumbed down. Turned you back to neutral, though

Eh, some people don't like reading? Doesn't matter to me, I never found virtual currency that important (probably why I suck at monopoly)

Scandinavians.

Beleive me, we are like this, almost all of us

she's hot either way

I don't know. I think she looks pretty hot. I mean, you could never get a blowjob from her without getting your dick shredded, but as long as she isn't a biter, your probably okay! And if she is a biter, that is nothing that wearing chainmail while having sex won't fix.

It's not privilege, it's chance. And the stress of the situation is relative, however unjust that may be. I feel the same amount of pain when my parents drink too much as when someone's dinosaur parents eat the neighbor and fuck in the blood. Yes, I just so happened to be born to human parents, but I didn't choose to be born to them and other people didn't choose to be born to dinosaur parents. It just happened, out of our control.

I'm lucky enough to have supportive parents who aren't dinosaurs, but it still made me feel bad.

Are you implying all dinosaurs are non-supportive parents?

I can hear your privilege from a mile away

It's not privilege, it's chance. And the stress of the situation is relative, however unjust that may be. I feel the same amount of pain when my parents drink too much as when someone's dinosaur parents eat the neighbor and fuck in the blood. Yes, I just so happened to be born to human parents, but I didn't choose to be born to them and other people didn't choose to be born to dinosaur parents. It just happened, out of our control.

and now I hate you
have a nice day!

Your hate keeps me warm in the winter

no, I just hate that expression

Sounds like a personal problem

and now I hate you
have a nice day!

Your hate keeps me warm in the winter

7 billion people on this Earth
I'm pretty sure you're not the only one

It's just a general expression. Do you always assume everyone who says "Am I the only one..." MUST mean it literally?

no, I just hate that expression

Sounds like a personal problem

and now I hate you
have a nice day!

Your hate keeps me warm in the winter

Seen it.

My point is that just because a lot of people know it doesn't mean they have good understanding of it. I think that was his point.

And my point was that if you had a good understanding of ANY religion, it would be christianity. I once saw a pie-chart actually showing the popularity of religions, and wouldn't you know it, christianity was by far a majority (and of course, for humour reasons, someone photoshopped in "Help, we're being oppressed!!" right above it. This right here is a perfect example of that situation)

Seen it.

Long live MARDUK!!!

Marduk, or Lucifer, I know a bit more about religion than your average human.

and i know more about snowglobes than the average rooster

A long time ago, pew pew, Enki is kill!
i cri ever tim ;_;7

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