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#224 - Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the t… 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -1
#221 - "Currently researchers have returned to using the term … 07/07/2014 on Good Call. +2
#193 - If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not. …  [+] (2 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -1
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#165 - Be that as it may, the comments section is here to have a disc… 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -1
#163 - I'm fairly sure you've got those mixed up, friend. Unless the …  [+] (2 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Good Call. +2
#197 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
User avatar #221 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
"Currently researchers have returned to using the term “psychopath.”

"doctors who worked with mental patients began to notice that some of their patients who appeared outwardly normal had what they termed a “moral depravity” or “moral insanity,” in that they seemed to possess no sense of ethics or of the rights of other people"

No it hasn't. Did you even read your own link?
#159 - It's not as if it takes much: (Can't have t…  [+] (10 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -4
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
#142 - How? Where am I wrong?  [+] (16 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -5
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
#134 - You hit the nail on the head, good man! That's what I've been … 07/07/2014 on Good Call. +11
#117 - He doesn't. Sorry about the typo, I wasn't aware that made my … 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -5
#116 - I'm sorry I ruined your little fantasy, buddy. Perhaps you sho…  [+] (18 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -8
#138 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
and here we are a typical case of a thinks he know it all.

you are retarded
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
How? Where am I wrong?
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
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User avatar #415 - sspacecore (07/08/2014) [-]
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
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User avatar #111 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
Why don't you develop the quality of not being a fucking jackass all the time?
User avatar #116 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I ruined your little fantasy, buddy. Perhaps you should jog on off to Tumblr where they cater to special snowflake statuses like that.
#138 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
and here we are a typical case of a thinks he know it all.

you are retarded
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
How? Where am I wrong?
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
User avatar #93 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I've never tried to be 'cool' or 'edgy' so, there's that. that cornerstone of your argument kind of falls flat.
atop of that, I've got people who have made it their life to handle other peoples mental inconsistencies who have told me what I am, explained why, et cetera.
I don't need an asshole on the internet to tell me I'm not a sociopath when I've got legal, law binding papers proclaiming it. It's not something I'm proud of, but it's not something I'm ashamed of. you say I'm not a sociopath simply because I said I was, when - in the context I did: to a stranger online, in order to give a bit of an explanation to what I was saying.

In short, good job man. have fun.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sure many 'cool' and 'edgy' people say that. Hell, I know I did what I was going through that phase.

Wanna know why they do that? Because maybe they have better judgment than you, like many people have, I'm sure. If you don't like it, don't act like such a ponce and telling people that you're a Sociopath at every slightest provocation. You have nobody to blame but yourself for the fact that people think you're an idiot.

'Course you do. And I got legal, binding papers telling me I can judge people from just reading their comments on a forum. See? Now we're both in the same boat, aren't we.

Ah, now you're taking the 'humble edge-master' route, how quaint.

I know why you told me you were a Sociopath, as I already told YOU, it was in order to give more weight to your words; however, you have a daft understanding of how Sociopathy works, and so you ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the get-go. Educate yourself next time and you won't be made a fool of again, simple.

I will, thank you. You too.
User avatar #415 - sspacecore (07/08/2014) [-]
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
#78 - Not just Wikipedia, many places, as I've encountered many peop…  [+] (27 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Good Call. -15
User avatar #155 - matrixone (07/07/2014) [-]
Why do you bother discussing things like this on Funnyjunk? You can't reverse stupidity.
User avatar #165 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Be that as it may, the comments section is here to have a discussion and that is exactly what I intend to do.
#79 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
Self diagnosed morons are one of the reasons I have been thinking about making a site dedicated to providing people with actual, psychologically certified information, because the assholes make myself and people like myself have harder times.

so, have fun I guess. no one's sociopathic. even the ones who are.
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, SOME people are, YOU aren't. Deal with it. You're not special, you're not edgy, you're not cool; tough titties.

Instead of being a jackass and telling people you're something you're not, why not just develop qualities that you can show off and be proud of?
User avatar #111 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
Why don't you develop the quality of not being a fucking jackass all the time?
User avatar #116 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I ruined your little fantasy, buddy. Perhaps you should jog on off to Tumblr where they cater to special snowflake statuses like that.
#138 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
and here we are a typical case of a thinks he know it all.

you are retarded
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
How? Where am I wrong?
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
User avatar #93 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I've never tried to be 'cool' or 'edgy' so, there's that. that cornerstone of your argument kind of falls flat.
atop of that, I've got people who have made it their life to handle other peoples mental inconsistencies who have told me what I am, explained why, et cetera.
I don't need an asshole on the internet to tell me I'm not a sociopath when I've got legal, law binding papers proclaiming it. It's not something I'm proud of, but it's not something I'm ashamed of. you say I'm not a sociopath simply because I said I was, when - in the context I did: to a stranger online, in order to give a bit of an explanation to what I was saying.

In short, good job man. have fun.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sure many 'cool' and 'edgy' people say that. Hell, I know I did what I was going through that phase.

Wanna know why they do that? Because maybe they have better judgment than you, like many people have, I'm sure. If you don't like it, don't act like such a ponce and telling people that you're a Sociopath at every slightest provocation. You have nobody to blame but yourself for the fact that people think you're an idiot.

'Course you do. And I got legal, binding papers telling me I can judge people from just reading their comments on a forum. See? Now we're both in the same boat, aren't we.

Ah, now you're taking the 'humble edge-master' route, how quaint.

I know why you told me you were a Sociopath, as I already told YOU, it was in order to give more weight to your words; however, you have a daft understanding of how Sociopathy works, and so you ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the get-go. Educate yourself next time and you won't be made a fool of again, simple.

I will, thank you. You too.
User avatar #415 - sspacecore (07/08/2014) [-]
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
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#114 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
"You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works"

And neither do you. I stopped reading half way through your argument, around the point where I realized you're both retarded, but lordgeneral gets points because you're literally on his level, but you think you're somehow better than him.

He wasn't claiming to be a sociopath to seem "cool" or "edgy" - you just decided it for yourself because you refuse to see anything else.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and get a life. Retard.
User avatar #117 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
He doesn't. Sorry about the typo, I wasn't aware that made my point any less valid.

Please, explain to me exactly how we're retarded

Then what other reason did he claim it for? He obviously doesn't need much to break out and tell people, and he obviously doesn't know what a Sociopath is, ergo, he's not one; so he tells people because it makes him seem cool

If you wanted me to shut up, you shouldn't have replied. Retard.
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User avatar #324 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
"I know more about psychopathy then certified professional psychologists because I browse the internet"
- Captianfuckitall
User avatar #325 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
#115
User avatar #327 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
You're still saying that you know how to classify a medical condition better than trained psychologists.
And that the mere fact someone states they're a sociopath means they're faking it for attention.
User avatar #329 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
1. He never proved he was actually diagnosed while I have given multiple links to support what I've been talking about

2. Indeed that is true, as it goes against the very nature of a Psycho/Sociopathic person to do something when it has no benefit for them, or when it risks doing more harm than good. When making a choice, they nearly always judge it in Risk/Reward rather than Right/Wrong, if something yields a higher reward than risk, they go for it, if not, they don't; it's not hard to understand. Seeing the conversation, the guy had nothing to gain besides attention, and had a lot to lose if any person he was trying to gain something from looked back and saw him admit he was a Sociopath (as they are generally disliked people). You might say that the risk is so small it doesn't matter, but it DOES matter to them, and that's exactly why he's not one.

Simple.
User avatar #337 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
You have some idea of what your talking about, I'l give you that much.
Yet sociopaths usually fear face-to-face confessions on their condition. The "reward" of admitting hes a sociopath in this instance would be:
1: Hes anonymous over the internet, no threat of people seeing through his guise in real life.
2: Its gaining him thumbs and hes winning the argument with you, giving him a sense of superiority.
So the "risk" is actually really small, and the "reward" would be reaffirming his sense of superiority.
User avatar #366 - lordgeneral (07/08/2014) [-]
just have to interject here that I am superior.

just saying.
User avatar #340 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Being anonymous over the internet isn't much of a reward, and as it has been proved many times, isn't much protection when dealing with real life consequences.

You know what? You just might be right. I'm not sure what a Sociopath would prioritize as 'victory', but it may very well be feeling superior to others. Who knows. Even so that's fairly far fetched, and I'm pretty sure we can both agree that, while possible, the chances of him just lying are higher.
User avatar #345 - burdensomebucket (07/08/2014) [-]
Sorry, I mean't being anonymous over the internet minimises risk, rather than being a reward. I didn't word myself right.
And its commonly known sociopaths see themselves as superior to everyone else, and the internet taking your side in an argument could affirm that. The low risk of people knowing your a sociopath is balanced by the fact your anonymous over this site.
And yeah, its far more likely hes full of shit. I just joined the argument cause it seemed like you were one of those internet know-it-alls who needed to be taken down a peg. You know your shit, but you gotta keep in mind that sociopathy isn't a closed-ended system like paralysis. Just like every person's personality is different, every sociopath views risk/reward in different ways, and therefore exhibits different symptoms.
User avatar #76 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
have fun reading through wikipedia, I guess?
User avatar #78 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Not just Wikipedia, many places, as I've encountered many people exactly like you who want to define themselves by the edgy "I don't care" status. I've been through highschool, man.
User avatar #155 - matrixone (07/07/2014) [-]
Why do you bother discussing things like this on Funnyjunk? You can't reverse stupidity.
User avatar #165 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Be that as it may, the comments section is here to have a discussion and that is exactly what I intend to do.
#79 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
Self diagnosed morons are one of the reasons I have been thinking about making a site dedicated to providing people with actual, psychologically certified information, because the assholes make myself and people like myself have harder times.

so, have fun I guess. no one's sociopathic. even the ones who are.
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, SOME people are, YOU aren't. Deal with it. You're not special, you're not edgy, you're not cool; tough titties.

Instead of being a jackass and telling people you're something you're not, why not just develop qualities that you can show off and be proud of?
User avatar #111 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
Why don't you develop the quality of not being a fucking jackass all the time?
User avatar #116 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I ruined your little fantasy, buddy. Perhaps you should jog on off to Tumblr where they cater to special snowflake statuses like that.
#138 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
and here we are a typical case of a thinks he know it all.

you are retarded
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
How? Where am I wrong?
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
User avatar #93 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I've never tried to be 'cool' or 'edgy' so, there's that. that cornerstone of your argument kind of falls flat.
atop of that, I've got people who have made it their life to handle other peoples mental inconsistencies who have told me what I am, explained why, et cetera.
I don't need an asshole on the internet to tell me I'm not a sociopath when I've got legal, law binding papers proclaiming it. It's not something I'm proud of, but it's not something I'm ashamed of. you say I'm not a sociopath simply because I said I was, when - in the context I did: to a stranger online, in order to give a bit of an explanation to what I was saying.

In short, good job man. have fun.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sure many 'cool' and 'edgy' people say that. Hell, I know I did what I was going through that phase.

Wanna know why they do that? Because maybe they have better judgment than you, like many people have, I'm sure. If you don't like it, don't act like such a ponce and telling people that you're a Sociopath at every slightest provocation. You have nobody to blame but yourself for the fact that people think you're an idiot.

'Course you do. And I got legal, binding papers telling me I can judge people from just reading their comments on a forum. See? Now we're both in the same boat, aren't we.

Ah, now you're taking the 'humble edge-master' route, how quaint.

I know why you told me you were a Sociopath, as I already told YOU, it was in order to give more weight to your words; however, you have a daft understanding of how Sociopathy works, and so you ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the get-go. Educate yourself next time and you won't be made a fool of again, simple.

I will, thank you. You too.
User avatar #415 - sspacecore (07/08/2014) [-]
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
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User avatar #35 - the fuzzball (07/07/2014) [-]
use that site for any movie ever
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User avatar #71 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
as an aside, I agree that this moron in OP's post was a self-diagnosed crackpot, I didn't say it to 'give you teh spooks'.
I don't have any reason to lie when I say I'm a sociopath. I don't use it as a crutch, nor should anyone use anything not normal with them as a crutch.
User avatar #77 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Exactly, you didn't say it for any reason, you just wanted to give your words more merit and ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the start.

You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works, which is fine considering you're not one, but when you go around telling people you are you should REALLY understand how it works. It's not something you CAN use as a crutch or leverage, nobody on Earth says "oh sorry about that, I'm a sociopath, I just couldn't tell", because part of the defining traits of Sociopathy is a complete disregard for others. If you have no reason to do something that fits your needs, you don't do it, simple; it's not as if you do anything "because there's no reason not to" because that's just retarded, and any ACTUAL Sociopath would agree.
#114 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
"You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works"

And neither do you. I stopped reading half way through your argument, around the point where I realized you're both retarded, but lordgeneral gets points because you're literally on his level, but you think you're somehow better than him.

He wasn't claiming to be a sociopath to seem "cool" or "edgy" - you just decided it for yourself because you refuse to see anything else.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and get a life. Retard.
User avatar #117 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
He doesn't. Sorry about the typo, I wasn't aware that made my point any less valid.

Please, explain to me exactly how we're retarded

Then what other reason did he claim it for? He obviously doesn't need much to break out and tell people, and he obviously doesn't know what a Sociopath is, ergo, he's not one; so he tells people because it makes him seem cool

If you wanted me to shut up, you shouldn't have replied. Retard.
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User avatar #70 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I was also diagnosed by three different psychologists. Certified doctors who were not rookies in their field.

Sociopathy, while loosely defined as an 'anti-social disorder' is not considered a mental disorder, as it defines the shape of your entire thought process. It means that you are dishinged from your emotions. Where you can think, for a moment "if I say this, they will be upset" I don't. I am a very blunt person who does enjoy the company of others.
there are many diseases that are more prevalent in sociopaths that would not surface unless the patient interacts with others, such as Narcicism; the "god complex"
User avatar #74 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Good for you. Being diagnosed by all the doctors in the world would not change the fact that you WOULDN'T tell people about it if it was within your power that they didn't figure it out. Seriously, why are you trying to defend being a Sociopath so hard? Do you think it makes you cool? Gives you some type of wisdom over others?

It is not 'loosely' defined as Anti-Social behaviour, it IS Anti-Social behaviour. Specifically, it is extreme Anti-Social behaviour combined with a lack of conscience. Anything that goes wrong or anyone that gets hurt is not their fault, and they pass the blame off onto others. Similar to a Psycopath, who cannot feel empathy and do not feel any type of fear or concern.

No it doesn't. Sociopaths/Psychopaths feel emotions just like anyone else, nor do they have 'deeper' thoughts or more willpower than others, both just share the common trait of not caring about others. Being blunt doesn't make you a Sociopath, it just makes you blunt

It's funny how you say sociopathy is not a mental disorder as it defines the way you think, but Narcissism is a disease...even though it just defines the way you think.
User avatar #324 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
"I know more about psychopathy then certified professional psychologists because I browse the internet"
- Captianfuckitall
User avatar #325 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
#115
User avatar #327 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
You're still saying that you know how to classify a medical condition better than trained psychologists.
And that the mere fact someone states they're a sociopath means they're faking it for attention.
User avatar #329 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
1. He never proved he was actually diagnosed while I have given multiple links to support what I've been talking about

2. Indeed that is true, as it goes against the very nature of a Psycho/Sociopathic person to do something when it has no benefit for them, or when it risks doing more harm than good. When making a choice, they nearly always judge it in Risk/Reward rather than Right/Wrong, if something yields a higher reward than risk, they go for it, if not, they don't; it's not hard to understand. Seeing the conversation, the guy had nothing to gain besides attention, and had a lot to lose if any person he was trying to gain something from looked back and saw him admit he was a Sociopath (as they are generally disliked people). You might say that the risk is so small it doesn't matter, but it DOES matter to them, and that's exactly why he's not one.

Simple.
User avatar #337 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
You have some idea of what your talking about, I'l give you that much.
Yet sociopaths usually fear face-to-face confessions on their condition. The "reward" of admitting hes a sociopath in this instance would be:
1: Hes anonymous over the internet, no threat of people seeing through his guise in real life.
2: Its gaining him thumbs and hes winning the argument with you, giving him a sense of superiority.
So the "risk" is actually really small, and the "reward" would be reaffirming his sense of superiority.
User avatar #366 - lordgeneral (07/08/2014) [-]
just have to interject here that I am superior.

just saying.
User avatar #340 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Being anonymous over the internet isn't much of a reward, and as it has been proved many times, isn't much protection when dealing with real life consequences.

You know what? You just might be right. I'm not sure what a Sociopath would prioritize as 'victory', but it may very well be feeling superior to others. Who knows. Even so that's fairly far fetched, and I'm pretty sure we can both agree that, while possible, the chances of him just lying are higher.
User avatar #345 - burdensomebucket (07/08/2014) [-]
Sorry, I mean't being anonymous over the internet minimises risk, rather than being a reward. I didn't word myself right.
And its commonly known sociopaths see themselves as superior to everyone else, and the internet taking your side in an argument could affirm that. The low risk of people knowing your a sociopath is balanced by the fact your anonymous over this site.
And yeah, its far more likely hes full of shit. I just joined the argument cause it seemed like you were one of those internet know-it-alls who needed to be taken down a peg. You know your shit, but you gotta keep in mind that sociopathy isn't a closed-ended system like paralysis. Just like every person's personality is different, every sociopath views risk/reward in different ways, and therefore exhibits different symptoms.
User avatar #76 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
have fun reading through wikipedia, I guess?
User avatar #78 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Not just Wikipedia, many places, as I've encountered many people exactly like you who want to define themselves by the edgy "I don't care" status. I've been through highschool, man.
User avatar #155 - matrixone (07/07/2014) [-]
Why do you bother discussing things like this on Funnyjunk? You can't reverse stupidity.
User avatar #165 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Be that as it may, the comments section is here to have a discussion and that is exactly what I intend to do.
#79 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
Self diagnosed morons are one of the reasons I have been thinking about making a site dedicated to providing people with actual, psychologically certified information, because the assholes make myself and people like myself have harder times.

so, have fun I guess. no one's sociopathic. even the ones who are.
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, SOME people are, YOU aren't. Deal with it. You're not special, you're not edgy, you're not cool; tough titties.

Instead of being a jackass and telling people you're something you're not, why not just develop qualities that you can show off and be proud of?
User avatar #111 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
Why don't you develop the quality of not being a fucking jackass all the time?
User avatar #116 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I ruined your little fantasy, buddy. Perhaps you should jog on off to Tumblr where they cater to special snowflake statuses like that.
#138 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
and here we are a typical case of a thinks he know it all.

you are retarded
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
How? Where am I wrong?
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
User avatar #93 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I've never tried to be 'cool' or 'edgy' so, there's that. that cornerstone of your argument kind of falls flat.
atop of that, I've got people who have made it their life to handle other peoples mental inconsistencies who have told me what I am, explained why, et cetera.
I don't need an asshole on the internet to tell me I'm not a sociopath when I've got legal, law binding papers proclaiming it. It's not something I'm proud of, but it's not something I'm ashamed of. you say I'm not a sociopath simply because I said I was, when - in the context I did: to a stranger online, in order to give a bit of an explanation to what I was saying.

In short, good job man. have fun.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sure many 'cool' and 'edgy' people say that. Hell, I know I did what I was going through that phase.

Wanna know why they do that? Because maybe they have better judgment than you, like many people have, I'm sure. If you don't like it, don't act like such a ponce and telling people that you're a Sociopath at every slightest provocation. You have nobody to blame but yourself for the fact that people think you're an idiot.

'Course you do. And I got legal, binding papers telling me I can judge people from just reading their comments on a forum. See? Now we're both in the same boat, aren't we.

Ah, now you're taking the 'humble edge-master' route, how quaint.

I know why you told me you were a Sociopath, as I already told YOU, it was in order to give more weight to your words; however, you have a daft understanding of how Sociopathy works, and so you ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the get-go. Educate yourself next time and you won't be made a fool of again, simple.

I will, thank you. You too.
User avatar #415 - sspacecore (07/08/2014) [-]
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
User avatar #68 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
are you sincerely trying to use sociopath and psychopath as if they're interchangeable?
User avatar #69 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, but both of them have common denominators, one of which being that neither care about their condition or the harm it does, nor do they go around telling people about it just to give them 'teh spooks'
User avatar #71 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
as an aside, I agree that this moron in OP's post was a self-diagnosed crackpot, I didn't say it to 'give you teh spooks'.
I don't have any reason to lie when I say I'm a sociopath. I don't use it as a crutch, nor should anyone use anything not normal with them as a crutch.
User avatar #77 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Exactly, you didn't say it for any reason, you just wanted to give your words more merit and ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the start.

You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works, which is fine considering you're not one, but when you go around telling people you are you should REALLY understand how it works. It's not something you CAN use as a crutch or leverage, nobody on Earth says "oh sorry about that, I'm a sociopath, I just couldn't tell", because part of the defining traits of Sociopathy is a complete disregard for others. If you have no reason to do something that fits your needs, you don't do it, simple; it's not as if you do anything "because there's no reason not to" because that's just retarded, and any ACTUAL Sociopath would agree.
#114 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
"You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works"

And neither do you. I stopped reading half way through your argument, around the point where I realized you're both retarded, but lordgeneral gets points because you're literally on his level, but you think you're somehow better than him.

He wasn't claiming to be a sociopath to seem "cool" or "edgy" - you just decided it for yourself because you refuse to see anything else.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and get a life. Retard.
User avatar #117 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
He doesn't. Sorry about the typo, I wasn't aware that made my point any less valid.

Please, explain to me exactly how we're retarded

Then what other reason did he claim it for? He obviously doesn't need much to break out and tell people, and he obviously doesn't know what a Sociopath is, ergo, he's not one; so he tells people because it makes him seem cool

If you wanted me to shut up, you shouldn't have replied. Retard.
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User avatar #203 - wishingwell (07/07/2014) [-]
If i remember my fathers old 80's(or 90's) psycologybook correctly, they had 5 or so different versions of the sociopath - the only one i remember was the emotional sociopath feeling guilty/in denial: who often completely convinced them selves to believing their own lies/'feelings' and acting accordingly (crying, frustration, happiness)... which would make them seem more emotional and therefore 'normal', dispite still being sociopaths (this was the group of sociopaths who was least likely to commit violent acts towards others and who most often did violence towards their posessions/themselves - all in all, more a danger to themselves than others.)
User avatar #227 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I believe that might have been the case, but it's simply not so now. We have many different terms for feelings and mental disorders that we don't need to classify things as "Type 1/2/3 Depression". Otherwise, there would be no need to even have the Psycho/Socio distinction in the first place, considering how similar they are.

As far as I know, a Sociopath is someone who is largely anti-social (not in the teenage way either) and without any type of remorse of compassion, often caused by certain environmental or personal convictions rather than a genetic disorder. While a Psychopath is someone who cannot feel empathy, thus cannot connect with others in a sentimental or emotional way, and also show a disregard for any type of fear or concern over their actions.
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User avatar #95 - gigamuffin (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm insane though. But the voices disagree.
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User avatar #226 - meganinja (07/07/2014) [-]
I put fish in Bleach, and watch them seize as their entire body dissolves.

I broke my 4 year old autistic brother's leg when I was 12 and blamed it on my other brother for pissing me off.

I've caused 2 people to attempt suicide by egging them on when they came to me for help because they were assholes in the first place and I didn't want to put up with their shit anymore.

I've had one of them expelled from school by planting a knife on them when their attempted suicide didn't work, and told the Principal that he was planning on killing some people before killing himself (it hadn't been released publicly that he had attempted suicide, so they believed me)

I was more or less abusive of my girlfriend because she had a host of psychological problems and needed me because I was the most supportive person she had and she had become dependent on me.


But can I not call myself a sociopath? Okay.
User avatar #268 - fuckyouthatswhy (07/07/2014) [-]
how's 8th grade going?
User avatar #231 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not, you're probably just lying in order to make a point.

I stand by my statement, if you were a Psychopath/Sociopath, you would not tell me a single piece of a list of your crimes simply because it holds no merit to you and you wager more to lose than you have to gain by doing it.

Right now, you're just an attention seeking edge-master. Good luck with that, though; I'm sure it makes the other 13 year old girls very wet in their panties.
#266 - zebanktoon (07/07/2014) [-]
I see where you are coming from, but ya know, you could try not to be such a cunt about it. Theres no need.
User avatar #301 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
There is certainly a need. I don't like it when people are stupid any more than you do; it's as simple as that.

Just as well, looking over my comments you could easily see I started out very civil and polite, and only escalated into anger when he insisted "No, no, just because I'm a Sociopath doesn't mean I have to meet the criteria to BE a Sociopath".
#303 - zebanktoon (07/07/2014) [-]
You were very demeaning. You basically just said "lel you're wrong, stop being edgy." I can't take anyone seriously when they do that.
User avatar #320 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Bah. The problem is I know you're right yet I'm too proud to rectify it. In any case I understand I lost my temper and I shouldn't have; I'll maintain my composure next time.
#321 - zebanktoon (07/07/2014) [-]
I respect that my man.
User avatar #234 - meganinja (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm an anonomous person on the internet. I don't have anything to gain or lose. You think I care about what people on the internet that I'll never see again think? I'm just proving a point. That, and I'm bored
User avatar #237 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Sure. Anyways...

Regardless, there is always a way to track someone down on the internet; and once something is out there it is there forever. Even at a completely neutral point, you STILL have more to lose than you have to gain, and a real Psycho/Socio path simply wouldn't take the risk

No point proven.
User avatar #239 - meganinja (07/07/2014) [-]
Not like I've commited a crime.
User avatar #249 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
There are two options here

1. You've committed these crimes and seek validation for it, which is why you're talking about them
2. You haven't committed any crimes (far more likely) and still seek validation for the falsehoods

Either way, you're only proving why my argument remains valid while you're only making a fool out of yourself. Ta~ta~
User avatar #258 - zomitlu (07/07/2014) [-]
Oh god do you stop talking
User avatar #261 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Yes, but only when the conversation is done. If you want me to stop talking, you shouldn't reply; or better yet, take yourself out of the conversation completely. It's not an algebra equation, it's not as if it takes a great deal of mental aptitude in order to make these great leaps of judgment toward "Maybe I should leave if I dislike it".
User avatar #264 - zomitlu (07/07/2014) [-]
Can I ask you something

Are you a professional psychologist?

Do you have the qualifications to tell people whether they are or are not a socio/psychopath? Looking up answers on Google does not count.

Because you're looking like a huge tit right now
User avatar #299 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No I am not, but than again, you're probably not a doctor either, but you can still clearly see when a woman is disabled, can't you?

Saying "Oh, you haven't devoted your life and career to this, thus you have no say" is such a cop-out answer that it alone makes my blood boil. Are you trying to tell me you have a professional career made out of EVERYTHING you have an opinion in? Out of EVERYTHING you know for a fact? Are you telling me that you cannot KNOW the universe is expanding without being a scientist? Give me a break.

Just as well, you can't just say "Do you have the answers? No, you can't go LOOK for them". Looking it up on google is no different than reading a book, which is exactly what you WOULD be doing in a regular psychology class. Again, give me a break.
User avatar #304 - zomitlu (07/07/2014) [-]
What I'm saying is that you don't know jack shit about the people in this thread who say they're socio/psychopaths so how could you possibly tell them they aren't one?

Your original comment is also bullshit

"Fun tip, folks!

If someone claims to be a Psycho/Sociopath...

They're not a Psycho/Sociopath"

This only applies to those edgy tumblr faggots like the one in the first comment when they use the term psychopath in an attempt to scare people or sound cool and unique

The people in this thread use it strictly because they were diagnosed by doctors but you still seem to think they're just as edgy as the tumblr tards

why
User avatar #322 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I know what you were trying to say, but the point remains that you're wrong. If there was someone in this thread that said "Ya I'm paralyzed from the waist down, but I can still walk" you wouldn't stand for it, and you especially wouldn't stand for it if someone said "Whatever dude, you don't know them, so how can you tell they aren't disabled?" And the answer is: Because I know what their CONDITION means, cause I've read about it, looked it up, this isn't the first debate I've had about it and I'm sure it won't be the last, see? And every single time the argument ended with them saying "Whatever dude, you may be right but you're just an asshole so whatever" (paraphrasing, of course).

It's not bullshit. A Psychopath/Sociopath WOULDN'T do that, there's no merit to it, it gets them nothing, risk outweights the reward, and if you knew a single thing about the condition you would know that they...simply...don't...do that. It's that easy. That's all there is to it. Just as well he provided no proof that he was diagnosed by a doctor, while I provided four separate links to support what I say

Why? Because he's wrong and he's lying, so I'm calling him out on it. That's why.
User avatar #456 - zomitlu (07/08/2014) [-]
No fucking shit I wouldn't stand for it, that's completely stupid and not related to the matter at hand at all.

And what makes you say they wouldn't? Sociopaths are fully aware of what they are, some accept it and try to live their lives, and others not so much. And what risk is there to tell someone online that they're a sociopath? They haven't done anything wrong, its not illegal to be a sociopath

How do you know he's wrong? You seem very sure about your statement.
User avatar #458 - captainfuckitall (07/08/2014) [-]
Oh, I wasn't aware you were not relate to the conversation or any examples I could muster; my mistake.

You also, much like nearly everyone else in this thread, have a SEVERE lack of understanding as to exactly WHAT a Sociopath is. That's alright though, if you did any research in the first place we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Because I highly doubt you WILL do any research or better yourself, I direct you to comment #159 where I point out multiple sources as to what these people are, as well as explaining how they work and why this guy is not them.

I know he's wrong because I explained it already in the comment below.

Also: Yes I mad. I've been talking to shitheads and justifying myself all day who have absolutely zero understanding of what they talk about. Only one single person in this thread has even come CLOSE to convincing me the guy COULD be a Sociopath, and that's only after I explained to him exactly how it worked, because he didn't know, nobody knows, they just think I'm a dick and so assume I'm wrong. So do whatever you like, go do research, sit there with a smug look on your face, or shove your thumb up your ass while being zombified by your favourite show, but do not reply to me; I will not read it, I will not send anything back, and will just assume it's an entire paragraph of you repeating how retarded you are.

Anyways, good day.
#472 - zomitlu (07/08/2014) [-]
If you don't reply to this you're gay

#REKT
User avatar #253 - meganinja (07/07/2014) [-]
I don't care about the validation first of all, I posted what I've done as support instead of just saying "hurr I'm a sociopath, ya gotta believe me." If you don't believe me, than that's your prerogative.

Second of all what I've said isn't illegal. Being an asshole, yeah, sure. But not a crime, unless perhaps my brother were to press charges on me for assault, but it would be past the Statute of Limitations to press charges on me anyways.
User avatar #259 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
*problem
Or if you were trying to be more positive about it
*right
Seriously, trying to sound smart only makes you seem more stupid.

You weren't being an asshole, you were just being pathetic; this is the type of thing I'd nominate to go into a cringe compilation. Nobody is scared of you and nobody takes you seriously, and for good reason, because there's nothing about you TO take seriously. You also have a very poor grasp of the law, as well as what you put on that list of actions; further supporting the fact that none of it is real.
User avatar #381 - meganinja (07/08/2014) [-]
First of all, what are you saying in your first paragraph?

Secondly, I'm not trying to sound scary. I was just pointing out that saying you're a sociopath doesn't magically make you not one. I just said I was, and it didn't magically change my personality. Also please tell me how my grasp of the law is incorrect. All of the things I've told you have happened so long enough that I would not be able to be charged with anything even if all the evidence were given and I did not attempt to defend myself due to the Statute of Limitations. You acting like you know what you're talking about is funny in itself, because your ignorance is palpable. Since you lack the ability to grasp basic concepts, I'll make it easy for you. In my state,

" 'Statutes of limitations' are laws that set time limits on how long you have to file a "civil" lawsuit, like a personal injury lawsuit, or how long the state has to prosecute someone for committing a crime."

For my state, the Statute of Limitations for Assault and Battery is 2 years, and Fraud is also 2 years. As I did everything I posted over two years ago, nobody would be able to do anything. There is nothing for me to lose by posting on this website, not that anybody cares in the first place. In fact, I've lost more by having to explain this concept to you that I could have even possibly lost any other way.
User avatar #151 - zombifier (07/07/2014) [-]
a Sociopath will know they are one, the just lack the ability to feel empanthy/sympathy

Psychopaths won't know they are one, they're bat shit insane
User avatar #163 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm fairly sure you've got those mixed up, friend. Unless the definition has changed; Psychopath is only related to 'batshit crazy' because it has so many synonyms relating to mad-men. In realty, they are indeed two different disorders; specifically, Psychopaths feel no empathy and cannot develop connections to people as well as feeling no type of fear or concern, while Sociopaths are completely anti-social and without conscience for their misdeeds.
#197 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
User avatar #221 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
"Currently researchers have returned to using the term “psychopath.”

"doctors who worked with mental patients began to notice that some of their patients who appeared outwardly normal had what they termed a “moral depravity” or “moral insanity,” in that they seemed to possess no sense of ethics or of the rights of other people"

No it hasn't. Did you even read your own link?
User avatar #126 - zombiesnipertwo (07/07/2014) [-]
as a general rule anyone that is truly crazy realize they are

differences:
"OMG I am so bipolar", "be careful I am a sociopath, I killed everyone in Skyrim" or "hurr durr I am so sad I have so much depression I only took 1 selfie"
to someone who truly sees imaginary people and creatures, someone who kill his mascot for pass time or someone who is truly depressed to the point he/she doesn't eat or move from bed for days
#248 - Eox (07/07/2014) [-]
I've always hated when people claim to be depressed because they're not happy all the time. Or psychotic because you're like watching compilations of people falling on youtube.


This kind of behaviour is so fucking disrespectful to people who actually suffer from depression, OCD, schizofrenia (can't be bothered to do a spell-check right now) or another mental illness.

My mother-in-law has severe depression and it destroyed her relationship to her children. She didn't bother getting out of bed making her lose her job, rendering her unable to give her children any food in their stomachs. She did not even care very much when her oldest daughter (my girlfriend) moved out and took her siblings with her.

She still fucks things up on a regular basis but she's getting help.

Fuck those people who claim to have mental illnesses because they want to feel special. FUCK 'EM!
pic kinda related
User avatar #482 - dndxplain (07/09/2014) [-]
You're my hero.
I am lordgeneral, by the way.understand that I agree with you ten thousand percent, and that it wasn't my goal to come off as some special snowflake.
User avatar #480 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
I absolutely love you
User avatar #302 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Hear hear, this guy knows what he's talking about.
User avatar #134 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
You hit the nail on the head, good man! That's what I've been trying to say. One of the defining features of both Psychopaths/Sociopaths is that they don't connect well (if not at all) to others. Nearly everything they do is focused only around the principle of what it can do for them and nothing else; as a result, it's easy to see that a true Psycho/Sociopath would never TELL anyone they are one, even anonymously, as it simply serves absolutely no merit to them

It would be no different than you saying "Well I don't like these types of games, but I'm gonna play it anyways" or "I don't like doing this action, and am also morally and ethically against it, but I'm gonna do it anyways". It simply goes against who they are at the most basic level.
#106 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
"I know psychology better than people who have practiced it for years because I met a couple guys and read stuff on the internet"
-captainfuckitall 2014
User avatar #115 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It doesn't take a genius to know what makes or doesn't make a condition. "Oh ya, I'm paralyzed from the waist down, but I can walk sometimes", no, it doesn't work like that, either it is or it isn't; any diviation would simply mean you DON'T fall in that category. If you can walk, you're not paralyzed, if you can see, you're not blind, if you knew what a Psycho/Sociopath was, you'd know damn well they wouldn't go around talking about it.

-captainfuckitall 2014
User avatar #59 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I was diagnosed as a sociopath. most sociopaths know and accept what they are.
there's nothing wrong with it though.
User avatar #67 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
1. You're not. I can assure you. If you were, you probably wouldn't even be here because Sociopathy is categorized by extremely anti-social attitudes (no, not Asocial, where you just don't care to be a part of society, I mean Anti-social, where you go out of your way to trouble it because you hate dealing with people and would never voluntarily do it unless it held some type of merit). Just as well, of course Sociopaths/Psychopaths accept what they are, because they do not care; both of them have an extreme lack of empathy and conscience for their negative actions.

2. Even given all this, there is absolutely no reason why either of them would ever tell people about their condition, as it holds no merit to them to do so. I literally cannot think of a single situation (beyond the most convoluted) where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you

Whether there's anything 'wrong' with it or not is completely irrelevant for the subject of the conversation.
User avatar #70 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I was also diagnosed by three different psychologists. Certified doctors who were not rookies in their field.

Sociopathy, while loosely defined as an 'anti-social disorder' is not considered a mental disorder, as it defines the shape of your entire thought process. It means that you are dishinged from your emotions. Where you can think, for a moment "if I say this, they will be upset" I don't. I am a very blunt person who does enjoy the company of others.
there are many diseases that are more prevalent in sociopaths that would not surface unless the patient interacts with others, such as Narcicism; the "god complex"
User avatar #74 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Good for you. Being diagnosed by all the doctors in the world would not change the fact that you WOULDN'T tell people about it if it was within your power that they didn't figure it out. Seriously, why are you trying to defend being a Sociopath so hard? Do you think it makes you cool? Gives you some type of wisdom over others?

It is not 'loosely' defined as Anti-Social behaviour, it IS Anti-Social behaviour. Specifically, it is extreme Anti-Social behaviour combined with a lack of conscience. Anything that goes wrong or anyone that gets hurt is not their fault, and they pass the blame off onto others. Similar to a Psycopath, who cannot feel empathy and do not feel any type of fear or concern.

No it doesn't. Sociopaths/Psychopaths feel emotions just like anyone else, nor do they have 'deeper' thoughts or more willpower than others, both just share the common trait of not caring about others. Being blunt doesn't make you a Sociopath, it just makes you blunt

It's funny how you say sociopathy is not a mental disorder as it defines the way you think, but Narcissism is a disease...even though it just defines the way you think.
User avatar #324 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
"I know more about psychopathy then certified professional psychologists because I browse the internet"
- Captianfuckitall
User avatar #325 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
#115
User avatar #327 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
You're still saying that you know how to classify a medical condition better than trained psychologists.
And that the mere fact someone states they're a sociopath means they're faking it for attention.
User avatar #329 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
1. He never proved he was actually diagnosed while I have given multiple links to support what I've been talking about

2. Indeed that is true, as it goes against the very nature of a Psycho/Sociopathic person to do something when it has no benefit for them, or when it risks doing more harm than good. When making a choice, they nearly always judge it in Risk/Reward rather than Right/Wrong, if something yields a higher reward than risk, they go for it, if not, they don't; it's not hard to understand. Seeing the conversation, the guy had nothing to gain besides attention, and had a lot to lose if any person he was trying to gain something from looked back and saw him admit he was a Sociopath (as they are generally disliked people). You might say that the risk is so small it doesn't matter, but it DOES matter to them, and that's exactly why he's not one.

Simple.
User avatar #337 - burdensomebucket (07/07/2014) [-]
You have some idea of what your talking about, I'l give you that much.
Yet sociopaths usually fear face-to-face confessions on their condition. The "reward" of admitting hes a sociopath in this instance would be:
1: Hes anonymous over the internet, no threat of people seeing through his guise in real life.
2: Its gaining him thumbs and hes winning the argument with you, giving him a sense of superiority.
So the "risk" is actually really small, and the "reward" would be reaffirming his sense of superiority.
User avatar #366 - lordgeneral (07/08/2014) [-]
just have to interject here that I am superior.

just saying.
User avatar #340 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Being anonymous over the internet isn't much of a reward, and as it has been proved many times, isn't much protection when dealing with real life consequences.

You know what? You just might be right. I'm not sure what a Sociopath would prioritize as 'victory', but it may very well be feeling superior to others. Who knows. Even so that's fairly far fetched, and I'm pretty sure we can both agree that, while possible, the chances of him just lying are higher.
User avatar #345 - burdensomebucket (07/08/2014) [-]
Sorry, I mean't being anonymous over the internet minimises risk, rather than being a reward. I didn't word myself right.
And its commonly known sociopaths see themselves as superior to everyone else, and the internet taking your side in an argument could affirm that. The low risk of people knowing your a sociopath is balanced by the fact your anonymous over this site.
And yeah, its far more likely hes full of shit. I just joined the argument cause it seemed like you were one of those internet know-it-alls who needed to be taken down a peg. You know your shit, but you gotta keep in mind that sociopathy isn't a closed-ended system like paralysis. Just like every person's personality is different, every sociopath views risk/reward in different ways, and therefore exhibits different symptoms.
User avatar #76 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
have fun reading through wikipedia, I guess?
User avatar #78 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Not just Wikipedia, many places, as I've encountered many people exactly like you who want to define themselves by the edgy "I don't care" status. I've been through highschool, man.
User avatar #155 - matrixone (07/07/2014) [-]
Why do you bother discussing things like this on Funnyjunk? You can't reverse stupidity.
User avatar #165 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Be that as it may, the comments section is here to have a discussion and that is exactly what I intend to do.
#79 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
Self diagnosed morons are one of the reasons I have been thinking about making a site dedicated to providing people with actual, psychologically certified information, because the assholes make myself and people like myself have harder times.

so, have fun I guess. no one's sociopathic. even the ones who are.
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, SOME people are, YOU aren't. Deal with it. You're not special, you're not edgy, you're not cool; tough titties.

Instead of being a jackass and telling people you're something you're not, why not just develop qualities that you can show off and be proud of?
User avatar #111 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
Why don't you develop the quality of not being a fucking jackass all the time?
User avatar #116 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I ruined your little fantasy, buddy. Perhaps you should jog on off to Tumblr where they cater to special snowflake statuses like that.
#138 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
and here we are a typical case of a thinks he know it all.

you are retarded
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
How? Where am I wrong?
User avatar #190 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
How about where all of your insults are based on baseless conjecture. All I did was call you a jackass and you assume that I have a fantasy that everyone is special and that I like to use Tumblr?

No, actually I just think you're a jackass.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
If you look down to comment #159 you can easily see it's not.

No, you just seemed really upset that I disagreed with him on what he thought a Sociopath was. Seeing as how many people really like to hold onto their fantasies and labels I figured you were one of those people who associated yourself under the Psycho/Socio terminology, seeing that, I told you to go use Tumblr as they would supply every last one of your needs for attention regarding your special status.

You can think I'm a jackass all you want, but that doesn't make me wrong.
User avatar #200 - indecisivejew (07/07/2014) [-]
You're not wrong. You're just being an asshole about it. The idea that no one is special is overly negative, but grounded in reality, so I could let that pass. But thinking that no one is even allowed to mention a condition they have without being labeled as an attention whore is ridiculous. People are allowed to talk about themselves if its relevant.

Sure you can think that no one is fantastically special, but that doesn't mean you have to crucify someone who talks about something that makes them a little bit different, especially if its in a fairly innocuous and non-offensive way like the guy who talked about his diagnosis that started this whole shitstorm.
User avatar #224 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Odd, considering I'm only being 'blunt' which is exactly the trait he described when referring to himself as a Sociopath. In any case, I'm not saying he's not special, I'm just saying that him attempting to BE special by telling people he's a Sociopath is not the way to go about it.

I don't label everyone an attentionwhore. Do you know how Sociopathy/Psychopathy works? Again, look to comment #159, I explain it all very well as to exactly why he would have never mentioned it if he was a real Sociopath, THAT'S why I'm giving him such a hard time.

He's not different, though; that's just it, at least not in the way he wants to be, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie. If you'll care to notice I actually started out very politely, even passing off his statement as a genuine concern, not his fault, perhaps someone else told him and he just went with it; it was only when he continued to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about (despite the multiple links I posted below agreeing with me) that I become rude.
#149 - jamiemsm (07/07/2014) [-]
well for one you are not giving any source on what you say you are just calling them facts because you think they are facts.

second one of your arguements were " where telling people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath would benefit you"
if i tell you i am a male and im 23 years old. i have a beard and long hair would that benefit me in anyway? no so by your logic im now not a male im not 23 years old, i dont have a beard and i dont have long hair?...
User avatar #159 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It's not as if it takes much:
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=NAS7U6jKGaaV8QezpYCgDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=sociopath+definition

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0
(Can't have the definition for Psychopath up because it has too many synonyms relating to 'mad-man')

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sociopath.htm

There, I can find more if you like. But as we can clearly see, it does not match lordgeneral's description of Sociopathy.

You don't seem to understand. Sociopathy/Psychopathy is not just a 'different personality'. It is a disorder categorized by very certain things, one of these things that both disorders share is sheer callousness and an uncaring attitude toward anything that does not directly benefit them. As Sociopaths are Anti-Social (literally going out of their way to hurt others or society, or avoid it) and Psychopaths cannot feel empathy (sharing sentimental bonds), they would literally have zero reason to either associate with the people on this board or even associate with ANYONE unless it either A. Directly benefited them or B. They had no choice in the matter. And frankly, TELLING people you are a Psychopath/Sociopath tends to make you off-putting to many people, and thus is not something they would like to do, because it goes against the whole 'self-serving' thing. If he WAS a Sociopath, the thought to even tell me or anyone would never have even crossed his mind, because even if it not doing any good is not enough to convince you, it would have probably done HARM to any objective he focused toward. Not only that, but look at how staunchly he defended his title of 'Sociopath'. Really, what type of ANY disorderly person, regardless of their problems, WANT to be seen as crazy? As unorthodox? As dangerous? Unless they were trying to get attention?
User avatar #236 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
You seem to think of the idea of having a mental illness or mental deviation as being an absolute. If you think it's as clear cut as being paralysed or not then you really know nothing about Psychology, Psychopathology or the diagnosis of it. The human brain has plasticity and can produce many, many behaviours. The way that mental illnesses work is that they can branch off into any number of comorbid conditions that produce varying outcomes in behaviour. Just because its observed that psychopaths and sociopaths tend not to bring up the fact they are ones does not mean 100% of them won't, sometimes psycho/sociopathy can occur from early child abuse, causing blunted emotions and other times it can be from genetic predisposition or a mixture of the two.

TL;DR Mental issues are not the same as physical, its like a welder trying to dictate how a CPU works, there are less absolutes on this level. (Source: My Masters in Psychology)
User avatar #245 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
It is; that's why we have so many different terms to cover such broad spectrums. You can mix and match all you want, but at the end of the day the fact remains there's a term because it deviates ever so slightly.

I admit I haven't taken a course, granted, I doubt many people in this thread have either; so on a realistic level their claims are just as valid as mine.

Indeed that's true, but if they somehow over-came their past lifestyle and principle of selfishness, they would no longer be a Socio/Psychopath at all, so the point becomes moot anyways. You say that just because it is shown in most doesn't mean 100% of them do it as well, but would you really argue "Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time"? Of course not, you would call that something completely different because it IS completely different. Can Depression manifest in different ways? Absolutely, which is why Psychopaths/Sociopaths have different behaviours to begin with, but the fact remains, at the end of the day, they are self-serving individuals who would not do something if the Risk/Reward factor did not come out in their favour.
User avatar #265 - doctorpibber (07/07/2014) [-]
There are different levels of functioning for sociopaths and psychopaths though. There are criteria for Psychopathy and people don't have to meet them all. A person admitting they are one could someone who does not have the strong delusional characteristics, but still may retain their blunted or shallow emotions towards others to still be considered a psychopath/sociopath.
User avatar #300 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, I don't mean him just admitting it proves he's not, it's the risk/reward factor.

We can agree on certain things about this, one of them is that both Socio/Psychopaths are generally selfish individuals who only do things for their own gain, and only take risks of they really benefit from it. By admitting something like that, even online, he has far more to lose than he does to gain, as anyone he associates with could look back, see it, and say "Hey, I don't wanna work with him anymore" and suddenly his objective (whatever that might be) would face a fall back

This is something a true Psycho/Sociopath simply would not do, ESPECIALLY when the only thing he has to gain for it is "Hey, look at me!"
User avatar #481 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
And Sociopaths tend to hold the diagnosis as a badge of honor, as they hold narcissistic tendencies and the diagnosis (By many a sociopath) is seen as an elevated existence. Sociopaths are emotionally devoid, but not necessarily stupid. Human natures stands as it is regardless of a diagnosis. People can show things off purely for the notion of showing things off. Plus, Lordgeneral wasn't even gloating, he was stating side effects and symptoms associated with the disorder that he faces. You have no idea what you're talking about, and linking psychology articles aren't going to show you're right.
User avatar #479 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
"but would you really argue 'Sometimes Depressed people are really happy all the time'?"

Yes, since that's Bipolar Disorder
User avatar #478 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
(cont.) Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Sociopaths and Psychopaths can know that they're what they're diagnosed as, as opposed to Narcissists who typically don't until alerted (And even then, they have a tendency to ignore it).

(Source: The three years I've been pursuing my degree in Psychology)

User avatar #477 - Ombra (07/09/2014) [-]
Hi there. My name is Ombra, from Psychexplain and I'm here to educate you a little

There are certain criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. Say there are seven criteria in a disorder. You don't have to meet all 7, but must meet at least, lets say for arguments sake, four. First off, Sociopathy and Psychopathy fall under the umbrella category of an Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which falls under Axis II (Cluster B) in the DSM. Sociopaths and Psychopaths do NOT suffer from the same disorder, so stop using them interchangeably. It's like saying that because somebody has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder, an umbrella category containing Chronic Bronchitis, Emphysema and Black Lung) You can say they have Chronic Bronchitis/Emphysema because, you know, they're the same. In your defense, people with Psychopathy and Sociopathy share similar symptoms, like a disregard for laws and social morals, a disregard for the rights of others, a failure to feel remorse or guilt and a tendency to display violent behavior, to list a few. Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard and spontaneous rather than planned.
User avatar #328 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I can't reply to the Anon, so I will reply to myself and hope they see it.

I haven't lost, as a matter of fact I am right, and have been right all the way through; the only 'winning' debate nearly everyone has against me is "You're an asshole!", but even so, that doesn't make me any less right.
#326 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
I was on your side all the way through the debate betwen you and lordgeneral, but I must say this, learn to give it up, and accept it when you are wrong, don't fight a lost battle, admit your defeat and keep some dignity, because you just gor psychologied by doctorpibber... Or some shit like that.
User avatar #93 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
I've never tried to be 'cool' or 'edgy' so, there's that. that cornerstone of your argument kind of falls flat.
atop of that, I've got people who have made it their life to handle other peoples mental inconsistencies who have told me what I am, explained why, et cetera.
I don't need an asshole on the internet to tell me I'm not a sociopath when I've got legal, law binding papers proclaiming it. It's not something I'm proud of, but it's not something I'm ashamed of. you say I'm not a sociopath simply because I said I was, when - in the context I did: to a stranger online, in order to give a bit of an explanation to what I was saying.

In short, good job man. have fun.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm sure many 'cool' and 'edgy' people say that. Hell, I know I did what I was going through that phase.

Wanna know why they do that? Because maybe they have better judgment than you, like many people have, I'm sure. If you don't like it, don't act like such a ponce and telling people that you're a Sociopath at every slightest provocation. You have nobody to blame but yourself for the fact that people think you're an idiot.

'Course you do. And I got legal, binding papers telling me I can judge people from just reading their comments on a forum. See? Now we're both in the same boat, aren't we.

Ah, now you're taking the 'humble edge-master' route, how quaint.

I know why you told me you were a Sociopath, as I already told YOU, it was in order to give more weight to your words; however, you have a daft understanding of how Sociopathy works, and so you ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the get-go. Educate yourself next time and you won't be made a fool of again, simple.

I will, thank you. You too.
User avatar #415 - sspacecore (07/08/2014) [-]
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
User avatar #68 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
are you sincerely trying to use sociopath and psychopath as if they're interchangeable?
User avatar #69 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
No, but both of them have common denominators, one of which being that neither care about their condition or the harm it does, nor do they go around telling people about it just to give them 'teh spooks'
User avatar #71 - lordgeneral (07/07/2014) [-]
as an aside, I agree that this moron in OP's post was a self-diagnosed crackpot, I didn't say it to 'give you teh spooks'.
I don't have any reason to lie when I say I'm a sociopath. I don't use it as a crutch, nor should anyone use anything not normal with them as a crutch.
User avatar #77 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
Exactly, you didn't say it for any reason, you just wanted to give your words more merit and ended up shooting yourself in the foot from the start.

You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works, which is fine considering you're not one, but when you go around telling people you are you should REALLY understand how it works. It's not something you CAN use as a crutch or leverage, nobody on Earth says "oh sorry about that, I'm a sociopath, I just couldn't tell", because part of the defining traits of Sociopathy is a complete disregard for others. If you have no reason to do something that fits your needs, you don't do it, simple; it's not as if you do anything "because there's no reason not to" because that's just retarded, and any ACTUAL Sociopath would agree.
#114 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
"You don't seem to understand was Sociopathy is or how it works"

And neither do you. I stopped reading half way through your argument, around the point where I realized you're both retarded, but lordgeneral gets points because you're literally on his level, but you think you're somehow better than him.

He wasn't claiming to be a sociopath to seem "cool" or "edgy" - you just decided it for yourself because you refuse to see anything else.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and get a life. Retard.
User avatar #117 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
He doesn't. Sorry about the typo, I wasn't aware that made my point any less valid.

Please, explain to me exactly how we're retarded

Then what other reason did he claim it for? He obviously doesn't need much to break out and tell people, and he obviously doesn't know what a Sociopath is, ergo, he's not one; so he tells people because it makes him seem cool

If you wanted me to shut up, you shouldn't have replied. Retard.
#56 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
Sociopaths realize what they are. Psychos don't.
User avatar #57 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
That's not the definition of the respective disorders, nor am I sure where you heard that, but I doubt it's true.

In either case, neither actually CARES if they are a Psycho/Sociopath, so it would make sense why they would never know or question it; still doesn't mean they would go around telling people.
User avatar #203 - wishingwell (07/07/2014) [-]
If i remember my fathers old 80's(or 90's) psycologybook correctly, they had 5 or so different versions of the sociopath - the only one i remember was the emotional sociopath feeling guilty/in denial: who often completely convinced them selves to believing their own lies/'feelings' and acting accordingly (crying, frustration, happiness)... which would make them seem more emotional and therefore 'normal', dispite still being sociopaths (this was the group of sociopaths who was least likely to commit violent acts towards others and who most often did violence towards their posessions/themselves - all in all, more a danger to themselves than others.)
User avatar #227 - captainfuckitall (07/07/2014) [-]
I believe that might have been the case, but it's simply not so now. We have many different terms for feelings and mental disorders that we don't need to classify things as "Type 1/2/3 Depression". Otherwise, there would be no need to even have the Psycho/Socio distinction in the first place, considering how similar they are.

As far as I know, a Sociopath is someone who is largely anti-social (not in the teenage way either) and without any type of remorse of compassion, often caused by certain environmental or personal convictions rather than a genetic disorder. While a Psychopath is someone who cannot feel empathy, thus cannot connect with others in a sentimental or emotional way, and also show a disregard for any type of fear or concern over their actions.
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I would ask you to bear my children, but I don't think I'd be worth of such an honour.
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It is there, that is how I watched the movie
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I don't
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I would ask you to bear my children, but I don't think I'd be worth of such an honour.
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User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no ******* mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
User avatar #474 - aherorising (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone ONLINE (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
User avatar #469 to #468 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (09/22/2013) [-]
For?
#466 - anonymous (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for **** ",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, ******** , and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
User avatar #461 - potgardener (06/01/2013) [-]
youre pretty ****** in the head if beating a kid is a good idea, parents would need to hit their kids if they taught them what was right and wrong from the beginning
User avatar #462 to #461 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/01/2013) [-]
It's ironic how you talk about avoiding situations, when your very comment isn't needed considering I already explained, about five times now, that I do not mean you must 'abuse' your children in order to get good results. My comment, and all the comments afterwards, were about how when compassion and support fails you must turn to punishment and discipline, including simply smacking your kid upside the head

Perhaps you should read more and get better informed before jumping to opinions, yes?
#459 - bossdelainternet (05/11/2013) [-]
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest  threads i've seen this year.   
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...   
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest threads i've seen this year.
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
User avatar #460 to #459 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (05/11/2013) [-]
I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult

I choose the former

Thank you, good sir
#453 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
I just thought I'd let you know that I just did an awful thing and quoted your majestic deep words of death wisdom onto my facebook. I gave you credit, but as part of my shame for stealing I thought I'd tell you. That was honestly one of the best things I've ever read.

Which is also why I screencapped it. Don't worry I swear I'm not going to try to get to frontpage with it I just wanted to save it.
User avatar #454 to #453 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all, I am not concerned with thumbs in the least. If you would like to post it, by all means do so, if you'd like to take credit, do so as well; I care not for material value or fame, as long as comprehend and understand the message
#455 to #454 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
Oh man you just keep getting better:)    
   
But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
Oh man you just keep getting better:)

But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
#449 - captainspankmonkey (02/27/2012) [-]
Internet problems
That is why :P
User avatar #450 to #460 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (02/27/2012) [-]
ahhh, haha, sorry then :P
#447 - anonymous (09/26/2011) [-]
you're a lovely person
User avatar #448 to #458 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (09/26/2011) [-]
awe, thank you, kind stranger :3

that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D
#444 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
Im becoming level 28 soon
User avatar #445 to #454 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/22/2011) [-]
sooooooooooooooooon............
User avatar #446 to #455 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
very soooooooooooooooooooooon......
#437 - anonymous (07/31/2011) [-]
Lololololol mfw you block me and delete my comment because I expose that you're an ignorant dumbass
User avatar #438 to #447 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (07/31/2011) [-]
no, i didn't block you because you "exposed that i am an ignorant dumbass". i blocked you because i know who you are, and remembered who you are. you are thebiggestmaggot. you have a (last time i checked) profile picture of an old lady with bouncing tits in a swimsuit. and you are also a nihilist that annoyed the hell out of me last time i talked because you were ignorant, arrogant, and rude, and drove me to a place i don't like going to simply because i do not like people like you. the reason i removed the comment is because 1. it was wrong. 2. you wouldn't have listened if i told you otherwise. and 3. it was Wikipedia, and unreliable source. and, since you are against what i believe, you will logically look for a source that undermines it. and i simply don't have the patience to deal with you

that's why
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