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#131 - Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous… 08/23/2013 on Good Husbands 0
#47 - As much as I'm sure SOME people here are actually introverts, … 08/22/2013 on Introvert +7
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#126 - Do you do drugs as a hobby? If so, I got some bad news for you…  [+] (4 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
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User avatar #132 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Because it doesn't actually make you happy, it gives you false happiness. Would you use the same defense for a heroin user? Or a meth-addict? Or a smoker, or a drinker? Believe it or not, I actually have a motto "Either it's all okay or none of it is, any form of compromise is hypocritical" that I use in my day to day life, I deal with everything in absolutes one way or another.

But you're making it seem like it's this grand time where fun is had and relationships are developed, when, in fact, it's just a bunch of people getting stupid in a basement and just sitting there.

BECAUSE YOU`RE JUSTIFYING USING DRUGS IS A HOBBY! Holy shit, how do you not understand how pathetic that is? Seriously? Bowling is a hobby, gaming is a hobby, reading is a hobby; doing drugs as a 'hobby' is just an excuse so you can avoid facing how much of a failure you are that something like that is what you look forward to on a day to day basis. Doing drugs is no more of a hobby than eating is. And no, it`s not immature to outlaw drugs (and you may be surprised that I actually favour decriminalization of marijuana), because drugs are outlawed for a reason (and it certainly isn`t to `keep you down`, my brutha). Besides, you`re only looking at it from one angle, that ``Well, it makes people happy, so there`s nothing wrong with it``, but a lot of addictions make people happy, that`s WHY it`s so easy to get addicted to them, yet it`s just as easy to see how harmful they are

Okay, you`re not a habitual pot user, you still justify drugs as a habit and `get together` activity. You may not be a habitual user, but good gods if I have not met a more stupid sober person. I wasn`t bothering you, was I? As a matter of fact, YOU were the one who came in and told me I sound like a horrible person to be around. So not only did you invite yourself into this debate, but you insulted me first. Why don't you take your 'woe is me' druggie bullshit and go do something productive with your life
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User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Says the guy defending drug abuse as a past-time and 'get together' activity
#123 - That makes it even more pathetic, doing drugs as a hobby. …  [+] (7 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
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User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you do drugs as a hobby? If so, I got some bad news for you...

Say that to second hand smoke (besides, in my experience, stoners blow more pot-smoke in your face than any other narcotic smoker. I've never had a cigarette smoker go out of his way to blow it in my direction, yet I just cannot say that for marijuana smokers). Yes, I get that things aren't bad and only turn bad when bad people use them irresponsibly. As a matter of fact, I understand that to such a degree, I posted it in my very first comment. Fancy that.

No, no it doesn't have an unfair stigma to it, because it's pathetic 'looking forward' to getting high, just like it's pathetic looking forward to getting drunk. Besides, they don't get together to hang out with eachother, they get together to get high, or are you actually trying to tell me they have meaningful conversations and grow positive connections while high on a drug that makes you inherently lazy and slow?

Oh fuck off, no druggie is a victim. If you do it to yourself, you're not a victim, you're just an idiot. Oh great, I'm talking to one of 'those' stoners, the ones who constantly bitch about being kept down by "the man". Look here, I'm in Canada, British Columbia, I don't know where you are, but here half of my highschool was always populated with stoners (most of which were near constantly high. No, I'm not even kidding. We had more drop-outs than straight A students, and that was in one of the generally considered 'good' schools). Nobody here cares if you smoke weed, cops don't even arrest people anymore, nor do they get kicked out of shops or restaurants, they're just told to contain themselves. Most people just don't want you smoking it around them; which is similar to how I feel about it. I don't give a damn what you do with your time as long as you're not being a piece of shit next to me, see?
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User avatar #132 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Because it doesn't actually make you happy, it gives you false happiness. Would you use the same defense for a heroin user? Or a meth-addict? Or a smoker, or a drinker? Believe it or not, I actually have a motto "Either it's all okay or none of it is, any form of compromise is hypocritical" that I use in my day to day life, I deal with everything in absolutes one way or another.

But you're making it seem like it's this grand time where fun is had and relationships are developed, when, in fact, it's just a bunch of people getting stupid in a basement and just sitting there.

BECAUSE YOU`RE JUSTIFYING USING DRUGS IS A HOBBY! Holy shit, how do you not understand how pathetic that is? Seriously? Bowling is a hobby, gaming is a hobby, reading is a hobby; doing drugs as a 'hobby' is just an excuse so you can avoid facing how much of a failure you are that something like that is what you look forward to on a day to day basis. Doing drugs is no more of a hobby than eating is. And no, it`s not immature to outlaw drugs (and you may be surprised that I actually favour decriminalization of marijuana), because drugs are outlawed for a reason (and it certainly isn`t to `keep you down`, my brutha). Besides, you`re only looking at it from one angle, that ``Well, it makes people happy, so there`s nothing wrong with it``, but a lot of addictions make people happy, that`s WHY it`s so easy to get addicted to them, yet it`s just as easy to see how harmful they are

Okay, you`re not a habitual pot user, you still justify drugs as a habit and `get together` activity. You may not be a habitual user, but good gods if I have not met a more stupid sober person. I wasn`t bothering you, was I? As a matter of fact, YOU were the one who came in and told me I sound like a horrible person to be around. So not only did you invite yourself into this debate, but you insulted me first. Why don't you take your 'woe is me' druggie bullshit and go do something productive with your life
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User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Says the guy defending drug abuse as a past-time and 'get together' activity
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#121 - Yes, actually; they are both narcotics. Here, I even have the … 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
#119 - Alcohol counts as narcotics, doesn't it? You can drink and smo…  [+] (2 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
#120 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
I just caught the narcotic thing, neither are narcotics. Alcohol is a depressant and Cannabis can be either a depressant or a stimulant depending on the species. This content wasn't shoved in your face, you could of easily clicked an arrow key, the arrows beside the content, anything. You chose to make a comment in which you chose a side, inviting debate.

I had to take the bait, you were being unfair. You call stoners disgusting, but I have seen drunks break up and propose marriage in the same fucking hour. I never see anyone high on Marijuana do that, never. I am 21 and don't drink now even though I enjoy a good amber lager, building my own beautiful home on 7 acres with my girlfriend and our dog. I do not fit the label of "disgusting stoner" that you like to cast with such generalization and prejudice, and I don't appreciate it.
User avatar #121 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Yes, actually; they are both narcotics. Here, I even have the definition: A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, esp. an illegal one.

Nor was my comment shoved in yours and you could have passed on, but you didn't; so you chose a side and are inviting me into it as well. (Besides, I didn't actually choose a side. The content showed alcohol being bad and marijuana being good, I simply posted a comment showing marijuana being bad and alcohol being good, then explained it was the person, not the drug, that abused it and thus did harm).

How was I being unfair by thinking druggies are disgusting? Who DOESN'T (besides druggies)? I've also seen someone high on marijuana never do anything, ever, they just sit and do nothing. Alcohol makes you daring and dumb, that's why people say you see how someone really is when drunk; marijuana makes you lazy and dumb. Oh, look at that, someone who DOESN'T fit a stereotype, I've never heard of that happening before (besides the fact that stereotype means 'majority', implying not everyone falls within it).

Alright, if you really didn't care you would have moved on. You know you don't fit the stereotype, and if you read my comments more thoroughly you would have realized I was only referring to people who abuse the drug (hence: Pot-head, or Stoner, rather than: Anyone who uses it ever). But you obviously care, which means it bothers you, and if it bothers you it means you feel like you have something to prove. Are YOU sure you don't fall into the stereotype? I know I have something to prove, and that's all those who abuse narcotics are pieces of shit, what do you feel the urge to prove to me?
#115 - Nor do you know anything about me, so we're in the same boat, …  [+] (9 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
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User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
That makes it even more pathetic, doing drugs as a hobby.

Using that same logic, you have no right to judge Hitler because you never committed genocide. Fuck off with your victimization (and for the record, you can always tell who the bigger asshole is when they say "You can't judge me till you've been there")
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User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you do drugs as a hobby? If so, I got some bad news for you...

Say that to second hand smoke (besides, in my experience, stoners blow more pot-smoke in your face than any other narcotic smoker. I've never had a cigarette smoker go out of his way to blow it in my direction, yet I just cannot say that for marijuana smokers). Yes, I get that things aren't bad and only turn bad when bad people use them irresponsibly. As a matter of fact, I understand that to such a degree, I posted it in my very first comment. Fancy that.

No, no it doesn't have an unfair stigma to it, because it's pathetic 'looking forward' to getting high, just like it's pathetic looking forward to getting drunk. Besides, they don't get together to hang out with eachother, they get together to get high, or are you actually trying to tell me they have meaningful conversations and grow positive connections while high on a drug that makes you inherently lazy and slow?

Oh fuck off, no druggie is a victim. If you do it to yourself, you're not a victim, you're just an idiot. Oh great, I'm talking to one of 'those' stoners, the ones who constantly bitch about being kept down by "the man". Look here, I'm in Canada, British Columbia, I don't know where you are, but here half of my highschool was always populated with stoners (most of which were near constantly high. No, I'm not even kidding. We had more drop-outs than straight A students, and that was in one of the generally considered 'good' schools). Nobody here cares if you smoke weed, cops don't even arrest people anymore, nor do they get kicked out of shops or restaurants, they're just told to contain themselves. Most people just don't want you smoking it around them; which is similar to how I feel about it. I don't give a damn what you do with your time as long as you're not being a piece of shit next to me, see?
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User avatar #132 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Because it doesn't actually make you happy, it gives you false happiness. Would you use the same defense for a heroin user? Or a meth-addict? Or a smoker, or a drinker? Believe it or not, I actually have a motto "Either it's all okay or none of it is, any form of compromise is hypocritical" that I use in my day to day life, I deal with everything in absolutes one way or another.

But you're making it seem like it's this grand time where fun is had and relationships are developed, when, in fact, it's just a bunch of people getting stupid in a basement and just sitting there.

BECAUSE YOU`RE JUSTIFYING USING DRUGS IS A HOBBY! Holy shit, how do you not understand how pathetic that is? Seriously? Bowling is a hobby, gaming is a hobby, reading is a hobby; doing drugs as a 'hobby' is just an excuse so you can avoid facing how much of a failure you are that something like that is what you look forward to on a day to day basis. Doing drugs is no more of a hobby than eating is. And no, it`s not immature to outlaw drugs (and you may be surprised that I actually favour decriminalization of marijuana), because drugs are outlawed for a reason (and it certainly isn`t to `keep you down`, my brutha). Besides, you`re only looking at it from one angle, that ``Well, it makes people happy, so there`s nothing wrong with it``, but a lot of addictions make people happy, that`s WHY it`s so easy to get addicted to them, yet it`s just as easy to see how harmful they are

Okay, you`re not a habitual pot user, you still justify drugs as a habit and `get together` activity. You may not be a habitual user, but good gods if I have not met a more stupid sober person. I wasn`t bothering you, was I? As a matter of fact, YOU were the one who came in and told me I sound like a horrible person to be around. So not only did you invite yourself into this debate, but you insulted me first. Why don't you take your 'woe is me' druggie bullshit and go do something productive with your life
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User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Says the guy defending drug abuse as a past-time and 'get together' activity
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#113 - You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I ref…  [+] (2 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -3
User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
#112 - What do you mean what do I mean? The statement is pretty obvio…  [+] (4 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -2
#118 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you consider those who consume alcohol to be disgusting as well?
User avatar #119 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Alcohol counts as narcotics, doesn't it? You can drink and smoke all you want, that's fine with me; as long as you don't abuse the substance and don't have a dependency on it. It's not my business what people like to do in their free time, but it becomes my business when stoners or drunks try desperately to shove it in my face about how positive their substance is
#120 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
I just caught the narcotic thing, neither are narcotics. Alcohol is a depressant and Cannabis can be either a depressant or a stimulant depending on the species. This content wasn't shoved in your face, you could of easily clicked an arrow key, the arrows beside the content, anything. You chose to make a comment in which you chose a side, inviting debate.

I had to take the bait, you were being unfair. You call stoners disgusting, but I have seen drunks break up and propose marriage in the same fucking hour. I never see anyone high on Marijuana do that, never. I am 21 and don't drink now even though I enjoy a good amber lager, building my own beautiful home on 7 acres with my girlfriend and our dog. I do not fit the label of "disgusting stoner" that you like to cast with such generalization and prejudice, and I don't appreciate it.
User avatar #121 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Yes, actually; they are both narcotics. Here, I even have the definition: A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, esp. an illegal one.

Nor was my comment shoved in yours and you could have passed on, but you didn't; so you chose a side and are inviting me into it as well. (Besides, I didn't actually choose a side. The content showed alcohol being bad and marijuana being good, I simply posted a comment showing marijuana being bad and alcohol being good, then explained it was the person, not the drug, that abused it and thus did harm).

How was I being unfair by thinking druggies are disgusting? Who DOESN'T (besides druggies)? I've also seen someone high on marijuana never do anything, ever, they just sit and do nothing. Alcohol makes you daring and dumb, that's why people say you see how someone really is when drunk; marijuana makes you lazy and dumb. Oh, look at that, someone who DOESN'T fit a stereotype, I've never heard of that happening before (besides the fact that stereotype means 'majority', implying not everyone falls within it).

Alright, if you really didn't care you would have moved on. You know you don't fit the stereotype, and if you read my comments more thoroughly you would have realized I was only referring to people who abuse the drug (hence: Pot-head, or Stoner, rather than: Anyone who uses it ever). But you obviously care, which means it bothers you, and if it bothers you it means you feel like you have something to prove. Are YOU sure you don't fall into the stereotype? I know I have something to prove, and that's all those who abuse narcotics are pieces of shit, what do you feel the urge to prove to me?
#111 - Yet the majority of the population continues to smoke it. Besi… 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
#110 - You don't seem to understand, but that's okay, I'll repeat it … 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
#109 - Why, cause I choose not to do drugs? I could say the same for …  [+] (11 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
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User avatar #115 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Nor do you know anything about me, so we're in the same boat, aren't we?

I actually have never done any narcotics in my life, I've only ever gotten drunk once and I hated it (although it only ever made me affectionate). I can act on my high horse because unlike many of said stoners or drunks, I an survive without it and do it happily as well. If you NEED a narcotic substance to survive, you're just an idiot

I'm not your guy, dude
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User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
That makes it even more pathetic, doing drugs as a hobby.

Using that same logic, you have no right to judge Hitler because you never committed genocide. Fuck off with your victimization (and for the record, you can always tell who the bigger asshole is when they say "You can't judge me till you've been there")
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User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you do drugs as a hobby? If so, I got some bad news for you...

Say that to second hand smoke (besides, in my experience, stoners blow more pot-smoke in your face than any other narcotic smoker. I've never had a cigarette smoker go out of his way to blow it in my direction, yet I just cannot say that for marijuana smokers). Yes, I get that things aren't bad and only turn bad when bad people use them irresponsibly. As a matter of fact, I understand that to such a degree, I posted it in my very first comment. Fancy that.

No, no it doesn't have an unfair stigma to it, because it's pathetic 'looking forward' to getting high, just like it's pathetic looking forward to getting drunk. Besides, they don't get together to hang out with eachother, they get together to get high, or are you actually trying to tell me they have meaningful conversations and grow positive connections while high on a drug that makes you inherently lazy and slow?

Oh fuck off, no druggie is a victim. If you do it to yourself, you're not a victim, you're just an idiot. Oh great, I'm talking to one of 'those' stoners, the ones who constantly bitch about being kept down by "the man". Look here, I'm in Canada, British Columbia, I don't know where you are, but here half of my highschool was always populated with stoners (most of which were near constantly high. No, I'm not even kidding. We had more drop-outs than straight A students, and that was in one of the generally considered 'good' schools). Nobody here cares if you smoke weed, cops don't even arrest people anymore, nor do they get kicked out of shops or restaurants, they're just told to contain themselves. Most people just don't want you smoking it around them; which is similar to how I feel about it. I don't give a damn what you do with your time as long as you're not being a piece of shit next to me, see?
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User avatar #132 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Because it doesn't actually make you happy, it gives you false happiness. Would you use the same defense for a heroin user? Or a meth-addict? Or a smoker, or a drinker? Believe it or not, I actually have a motto "Either it's all okay or none of it is, any form of compromise is hypocritical" that I use in my day to day life, I deal with everything in absolutes one way or another.

But you're making it seem like it's this grand time where fun is had and relationships are developed, when, in fact, it's just a bunch of people getting stupid in a basement and just sitting there.

BECAUSE YOU`RE JUSTIFYING USING DRUGS IS A HOBBY! Holy shit, how do you not understand how pathetic that is? Seriously? Bowling is a hobby, gaming is a hobby, reading is a hobby; doing drugs as a 'hobby' is just an excuse so you can avoid facing how much of a failure you are that something like that is what you look forward to on a day to day basis. Doing drugs is no more of a hobby than eating is. And no, it`s not immature to outlaw drugs (and you may be surprised that I actually favour decriminalization of marijuana), because drugs are outlawed for a reason (and it certainly isn`t to `keep you down`, my brutha). Besides, you`re only looking at it from one angle, that ``Well, it makes people happy, so there`s nothing wrong with it``, but a lot of addictions make people happy, that`s WHY it`s so easy to get addicted to them, yet it`s just as easy to see how harmful they are

Okay, you`re not a habitual pot user, you still justify drugs as a habit and `get together` activity. You may not be a habitual user, but good gods if I have not met a more stupid sober person. I wasn`t bothering you, was I? As a matter of fact, YOU were the one who came in and told me I sound like a horrible person to be around. So not only did you invite yourself into this debate, but you insulted me first. Why don't you take your 'woe is me' druggie bullshit and go do something productive with your life
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User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Says the guy defending drug abuse as a past-time and 'get together' activity
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#108 - Wanna tell that to the people I've seen tweaking out like you … 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -1
#228 - That's because Wicca is the most common form of Paganism found…  [+] (2 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Eat it God 0
User avatar #229 - arrisarrad (08/23/2013) [-]
Yeah, but I thought the terminology had to do with the veneration of nature spirits, and just came to include war gods and stuff over time as pantheons became more diverse?
User avatar #230 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
To be completely honest, I haven't practiced Wicca in years and don't know much about the mind-set, however, you are correct that it had to do with veneration and worship of Nature spirits (specifically the Earth herself), however, many Wiccans also consider gods of war/conflict/magic and what-not ALSO to be spirits of 'nature', as those same actions are forces of nature if not anything else
#65 - Ironic, isn't it? When I post a yahoo answers, it's all false …  [+] (4 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -3
User avatar #106 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes in various cultures for close to 3000 years. There has never been any proven link between marijuana and an increased rsik in mental disorders, this is most likely because it is often times grouped with hallucinogens such as LSD and psilocybin that do have a proven correlation with mental disorders. There is clearly lung damage from smoke inhalation, but there haven't been any documented negative effects of taking it orally, besides the intended effects, which aren't too dissimilar to alcohol.
Now, concerning the pothead stereotype. I have any interesting theory concerning this. Perhaps, its not the drug, its the person. There are incredibly intelligent and successful people that use all sorts of drugs frequently. But there are also lots of unsuccessful people that already lack ambition and all of those characteristics you listed, they are the ones who turn to drug use for escapism. What I'm trying to get across is that smoking marijuana doesn't magically turn you into an unsuccessful shitty person, you were most likely already going to become one, and marijuana is an easy way to escape from the reality of this.
Fuck, I don't remember where I was going with this. Stereotypes exist because it makes it easier for you to not have to feel bad about humanity and actually help anyone, its easier to blame drugs then actually try to help people out of the depression that drove them to it in the first place.

User avatar #113 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I refuting its medicinal qualities, I'm just saying that, like any substance, it's bad in abusive doses and you'd have to be an idiot to say it's safer than any other average narcotic (for the record: a lot of things have been used as medicine, from chocolate to liquor. Believe it or not, liquor actually has positive effects on the body as well in small doses; red wine for example makes your veins more elastic and allows blood to run easier).

Nor has there been a proven link between alcohol and abuse, all it does is make you bold and more daring. Yet we can both say that some of the worst abusers are at their worst when drunk

Indeed, but smoking it is the most common form, and again, I'm near positive it's not too healthy to be eating it flat out either (considering what anybody could be mixing into it, as you yourself stated).

I myself wouldn't actually consider it much of a theory considering the majority of pot-heads are not successful and exactly as the stereotype describes them, but hey I'll give it a shot with an open mind. Indeed you're right, it can be the person and, in fact, it is; that's what I said from the start, that it's not the substance that's bad, it's the person who cannot handle it; however, you'd be an idiot to try and tell me that having long term exposure to marijuana DOESN'T have some serious negative mental effects such as a lack of cognitive ability and mental processes. Actually no, stereotypes exist for a reason and often do because of the majority.

Besides, why should I help them? What obligation do I have to a man who let himself dive down that deep on his own accord and turned to drugs instead of helping himself out of it? Let them rot if they feel that bad about themselves, I wouldn't want to live like that either

User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
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User avatar #54 - respirator (08/22/2013) [-]
Ah yes the infinite wisdom of yahoo answers, you are such a scholar. You want to call me disgusting you sickeningly ignorant individual? How about you stop arguing against something that helps millions of people lead healthier happier lives you degenerate fuck.
User avatar #65 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ironic, isn't it? When I post a yahoo answers, it's all false and slander; yet if YOU did it to support your argument, it would be totally legitimate, right?

"Healthier happier lives", healthy as in getting lung cancer and having an increased risk of dementia and other mental disorders? Happier as in having very little energy or ambition and seeing nothing past your next bowl (heh) of cheerioes? Go fuck yourself you piece of shit stoner
User avatar #106 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes in various cultures for close to 3000 years. There has never been any proven link between marijuana and an increased rsik in mental disorders, this is most likely because it is often times grouped with hallucinogens such as LSD and psilocybin that do have a proven correlation with mental disorders. There is clearly lung damage from smoke inhalation, but there haven't been any documented negative effects of taking it orally, besides the intended effects, which aren't too dissimilar to alcohol.
Now, concerning the pothead stereotype. I have any interesting theory concerning this. Perhaps, its not the drug, its the person. There are incredibly intelligent and successful people that use all sorts of drugs frequently. But there are also lots of unsuccessful people that already lack ambition and all of those characteristics you listed, they are the ones who turn to drug use for escapism. What I'm trying to get across is that smoking marijuana doesn't magically turn you into an unsuccessful shitty person, you were most likely already going to become one, and marijuana is an easy way to escape from the reality of this.
Fuck, I don't remember where I was going with this. Stereotypes exist because it makes it easier for you to not have to feel bad about humanity and actually help anyone, its easier to blame drugs then actually try to help people out of the depression that drove them to it in the first place.

User avatar #113 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I refuting its medicinal qualities, I'm just saying that, like any substance, it's bad in abusive doses and you'd have to be an idiot to say it's safer than any other average narcotic (for the record: a lot of things have been used as medicine, from chocolate to liquor. Believe it or not, liquor actually has positive effects on the body as well in small doses; red wine for example makes your veins more elastic and allows blood to run easier).

Nor has there been a proven link between alcohol and abuse, all it does is make you bold and more daring. Yet we can both say that some of the worst abusers are at their worst when drunk

Indeed, but smoking it is the most common form, and again, I'm near positive it's not too healthy to be eating it flat out either (considering what anybody could be mixing into it, as you yourself stated).

I myself wouldn't actually consider it much of a theory considering the majority of pot-heads are not successful and exactly as the stereotype describes them, but hey I'll give it a shot with an open mind. Indeed you're right, it can be the person and, in fact, it is; that's what I said from the start, that it's not the substance that's bad, it's the person who cannot handle it; however, you'd be an idiot to try and tell me that having long term exposure to marijuana DOESN'T have some serious negative mental effects such as a lack of cognitive ability and mental processes. Actually no, stereotypes exist for a reason and often do because of the majority.

Besides, why should I help them? What obligation do I have to a man who let himself dive down that deep on his own accord and turned to drugs instead of helping himself out of it? Let them rot if they feel that bad about themselves, I wouldn't want to live like that either

User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
#35 - Ya, I'm gonna need citation for that I've heard of ed…  [+] (8 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -2
#36 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
www.alternet.org/drugs/5-biggest-lies-anti-pot-propagandist-kevin-sabet?paging=off

its not the source on albuterol, but it'll have to due as far as overall sources go because I'm going to bed. Got school then work early tomorrow.
User avatar #54 - respirator (08/22/2013) [-]
Ah yes the infinite wisdom of yahoo answers, you are such a scholar. You want to call me disgusting you sickeningly ignorant individual? How about you stop arguing against something that helps millions of people lead healthier happier lives you degenerate fuck.
User avatar #65 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ironic, isn't it? When I post a yahoo answers, it's all false and slander; yet if YOU did it to support your argument, it would be totally legitimate, right?

"Healthier happier lives", healthy as in getting lung cancer and having an increased risk of dementia and other mental disorders? Happier as in having very little energy or ambition and seeing nothing past your next bowl (heh) of cheerioes? Go fuck yourself you piece of shit stoner
User avatar #106 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes in various cultures for close to 3000 years. There has never been any proven link between marijuana and an increased rsik in mental disorders, this is most likely because it is often times grouped with hallucinogens such as LSD and psilocybin that do have a proven correlation with mental disorders. There is clearly lung damage from smoke inhalation, but there haven't been any documented negative effects of taking it orally, besides the intended effects, which aren't too dissimilar to alcohol.
Now, concerning the pothead stereotype. I have any interesting theory concerning this. Perhaps, its not the drug, its the person. There are incredibly intelligent and successful people that use all sorts of drugs frequently. But there are also lots of unsuccessful people that already lack ambition and all of those characteristics you listed, they are the ones who turn to drug use for escapism. What I'm trying to get across is that smoking marijuana doesn't magically turn you into an unsuccessful shitty person, you were most likely already going to become one, and marijuana is an easy way to escape from the reality of this.
Fuck, I don't remember where I was going with this. Stereotypes exist because it makes it easier for you to not have to feel bad about humanity and actually help anyone, its easier to blame drugs then actually try to help people out of the depression that drove them to it in the first place.

User avatar #113 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I refuting its medicinal qualities, I'm just saying that, like any substance, it's bad in abusive doses and you'd have to be an idiot to say it's safer than any other average narcotic (for the record: a lot of things have been used as medicine, from chocolate to liquor. Believe it or not, liquor actually has positive effects on the body as well in small doses; red wine for example makes your veins more elastic and allows blood to run easier).

Nor has there been a proven link between alcohol and abuse, all it does is make you bold and more daring. Yet we can both say that some of the worst abusers are at their worst when drunk

Indeed, but smoking it is the most common form, and again, I'm near positive it's not too healthy to be eating it flat out either (considering what anybody could be mixing into it, as you yourself stated).

I myself wouldn't actually consider it much of a theory considering the majority of pot-heads are not successful and exactly as the stereotype describes them, but hey I'll give it a shot with an open mind. Indeed you're right, it can be the person and, in fact, it is; that's what I said from the start, that it's not the substance that's bad, it's the person who cannot handle it; however, you'd be an idiot to try and tell me that having long term exposure to marijuana DOESN'T have some serious negative mental effects such as a lack of cognitive ability and mental processes. Actually no, stereotypes exist for a reason and often do because of the majority.

Besides, why should I help them? What obligation do I have to a man who let himself dive down that deep on his own accord and turned to drugs instead of helping himself out of it? Let them rot if they feel that bad about themselves, I wouldn't want to live like that either

User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
#223 - Technically, Satanism is Paganism. Paganism is just the worshi…  [+] (4 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Eat it God 0
User avatar #226 - arrisarrad (08/22/2013) [-]
I thought paganism was the worship of nature spirits, like Baal, the Vanir, or the old Celtic gods?
User avatar #228 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
That's because Wicca is the most common form of Paganism found, and that's usually what they go for; but it also counts for South American, Eastern, Middle Eastern, African, and even Egyptian gods
User avatar #229 - arrisarrad (08/23/2013) [-]
Yeah, but I thought the terminology had to do with the veneration of nature spirits, and just came to include war gods and stuff over time as pantheons became more diverse?
User avatar #230 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
To be completely honest, I haven't practiced Wicca in years and don't know much about the mind-set, however, you are correct that it had to do with veneration and worship of Nature spirits (specifically the Earth herself), however, many Wiccans also consider gods of war/conflict/magic and what-not ALSO to be spirits of 'nature', as those same actions are forces of nature if not anything else
#32 - What are you gonna do, parachute it? Inject it? There are othe…  [+] (10 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -2
#34 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
the fume causes absolutely no lung damages, according to several studies taken. It is actually better for your lungs than an albuterol inhaler, which can cause long term damage despite being considered a medicine. Furthermore, vaping does not involve smoke. thus, scientists don't have to give a fuck what smoke does to the lungs. Have you never heard of edibles? and not once did I say it has no negative side effects. However, so does overconsumption of meat, soy, dairy, etc. Nearly everything can be linked to at least one negative side effect after long term exposure and/or excessive amounts.
User avatar #35 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ya, I'm gonna need citation for that

I've heard of edibles, but you can't exactly do much with them except bake them into things, and I'm near positive that that cannot be too healthy for you either

Indeed, and that's what I said in my first comment too, that abusing any substance has harmful side effects. Just as well, I live in British Columbia, one of the most 'pot-head' filled provinces in all of Canada. It is very easy to see the negative effect it has on people, as I have yet to meet a single person who does it excessively that does not have a slurred speech, slow speech, low cognitive ability, and a lack of ambition. The only reason extensive studies have not been done is simply because it hasn't been used (or, rather, legally used) enough to MAKE an extensive study out of it
#36 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
www.alternet.org/drugs/5-biggest-lies-anti-pot-propagandist-kevin-sabet?paging=off

its not the source on albuterol, but it'll have to due as far as overall sources go because I'm going to bed. Got school then work early tomorrow.
User avatar #54 - respirator (08/22/2013) [-]
Ah yes the infinite wisdom of yahoo answers, you are such a scholar. You want to call me disgusting you sickeningly ignorant individual? How about you stop arguing against something that helps millions of people lead healthier happier lives you degenerate fuck.
User avatar #65 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ironic, isn't it? When I post a yahoo answers, it's all false and slander; yet if YOU did it to support your argument, it would be totally legitimate, right?

"Healthier happier lives", healthy as in getting lung cancer and having an increased risk of dementia and other mental disorders? Happier as in having very little energy or ambition and seeing nothing past your next bowl (heh) of cheerioes? Go fuck yourself you piece of shit stoner
User avatar #106 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes in various cultures for close to 3000 years. There has never been any proven link between marijuana and an increased rsik in mental disorders, this is most likely because it is often times grouped with hallucinogens such as LSD and psilocybin that do have a proven correlation with mental disorders. There is clearly lung damage from smoke inhalation, but there haven't been any documented negative effects of taking it orally, besides the intended effects, which aren't too dissimilar to alcohol.
Now, concerning the pothead stereotype. I have any interesting theory concerning this. Perhaps, its not the drug, its the person. There are incredibly intelligent and successful people that use all sorts of drugs frequently. But there are also lots of unsuccessful people that already lack ambition and all of those characteristics you listed, they are the ones who turn to drug use for escapism. What I'm trying to get across is that smoking marijuana doesn't magically turn you into an unsuccessful shitty person, you were most likely already going to become one, and marijuana is an easy way to escape from the reality of this.
Fuck, I don't remember where I was going with this. Stereotypes exist because it makes it easier for you to not have to feel bad about humanity and actually help anyone, its easier to blame drugs then actually try to help people out of the depression that drove them to it in the first place.

User avatar #113 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I refuting its medicinal qualities, I'm just saying that, like any substance, it's bad in abusive doses and you'd have to be an idiot to say it's safer than any other average narcotic (for the record: a lot of things have been used as medicine, from chocolate to liquor. Believe it or not, liquor actually has positive effects on the body as well in small doses; red wine for example makes your veins more elastic and allows blood to run easier).

Nor has there been a proven link between alcohol and abuse, all it does is make you bold and more daring. Yet we can both say that some of the worst abusers are at their worst when drunk

Indeed, but smoking it is the most common form, and again, I'm near positive it's not too healthy to be eating it flat out either (considering what anybody could be mixing into it, as you yourself stated).

I myself wouldn't actually consider it much of a theory considering the majority of pot-heads are not successful and exactly as the stereotype describes them, but hey I'll give it a shot with an open mind. Indeed you're right, it can be the person and, in fact, it is; that's what I said from the start, that it's not the substance that's bad, it's the person who cannot handle it; however, you'd be an idiot to try and tell me that having long term exposure to marijuana DOESN'T have some serious negative mental effects such as a lack of cognitive ability and mental processes. Actually no, stereotypes exist for a reason and often do because of the majority.

Besides, why should I help them? What obligation do I have to a man who let himself dive down that deep on his own accord and turned to drugs instead of helping himself out of it? Let them rot if they feel that bad about themselves, I wouldn't want to live like that either

User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
#221 - Oh absolutely, in Theistic Satanism they do hail Satan, as wel…  [+] (6 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Eat it God 0
User avatar #222 - arrisarrad (08/22/2013) [-]
What you're describing sounds more like paganism that Satanism.
User avatar #223 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Technically, Satanism is Paganism. Paganism is just the worship of any gods prior to judaic religion, usually associated with spirits, nature, and Occultism
User avatar #226 - arrisarrad (08/22/2013) [-]
I thought paganism was the worship of nature spirits, like Baal, the Vanir, or the old Celtic gods?
User avatar #228 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
That's because Wicca is the most common form of Paganism found, and that's usually what they go for; but it also counts for South American, Eastern, Middle Eastern, African, and even Egyptian gods
User avatar #229 - arrisarrad (08/23/2013) [-]
Yeah, but I thought the terminology had to do with the veneration of nature spirits, and just came to include war gods and stuff over time as pantheons became more diverse?
User avatar #230 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
To be completely honest, I haven't practiced Wicca in years and don't know much about the mind-set, however, you are correct that it had to do with veneration and worship of Nature spirits (specifically the Earth herself), however, many Wiccans also consider gods of war/conflict/magic and what-not ALSO to be spirits of 'nature', as those same actions are forces of nature if not anything else
#12 - Hey, you'd actually have a point too, if marijuana didn't caus…  [+] (20 new replies) 08/22/2013 on Good Husbands -2
User avatar #107 - demonican (08/22/2013) [-]
You know you can cook food with cannabis and eat it instead of smoke?
User avatar #111 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Yet the majority of the population continues to smoke it. Besides, even if eating it doesn't effect your lungs, I'm not positive it's not exactly the healthiest way to go either
#69 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
I read this comment, I moved on down the content line, and I can't help myself.

What the fuck do you mean disgusting stoner? How do you make statement?
User avatar #112 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
What do you mean what do I mean? The statement is pretty obvious if you just look. I called him a disgusting stoner because I think people who use narcotics are disgusting, and if he's defending them so fervently with such poor arguments he's obviously on the side I'm insulting

What do you mean how do I make that statement? I make it through judgement and critical thinking over the many intoxicated and high people I've seen in my life
#118 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you consider those who consume alcohol to be disgusting as well?
User avatar #119 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Alcohol counts as narcotics, doesn't it? You can drink and smoke all you want, that's fine with me; as long as you don't abuse the substance and don't have a dependency on it. It's not my business what people like to do in their free time, but it becomes my business when stoners or drunks try desperately to shove it in my face about how positive their substance is
#120 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
I just caught the narcotic thing, neither are narcotics. Alcohol is a depressant and Cannabis can be either a depressant or a stimulant depending on the species. This content wasn't shoved in your face, you could of easily clicked an arrow key, the arrows beside the content, anything. You chose to make a comment in which you chose a side, inviting debate.

I had to take the bait, you were being unfair. You call stoners disgusting, but I have seen drunks break up and propose marriage in the same fucking hour. I never see anyone high on Marijuana do that, never. I am 21 and don't drink now even though I enjoy a good amber lager, building my own beautiful home on 7 acres with my girlfriend and our dog. I do not fit the label of "disgusting stoner" that you like to cast with such generalization and prejudice, and I don't appreciate it.
User avatar #121 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Yes, actually; they are both narcotics. Here, I even have the definition: A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, esp. an illegal one.

Nor was my comment shoved in yours and you could have passed on, but you didn't; so you chose a side and are inviting me into it as well. (Besides, I didn't actually choose a side. The content showed alcohol being bad and marijuana being good, I simply posted a comment showing marijuana being bad and alcohol being good, then explained it was the person, not the drug, that abused it and thus did harm).

How was I being unfair by thinking druggies are disgusting? Who DOESN'T (besides druggies)? I've also seen someone high on marijuana never do anything, ever, they just sit and do nothing. Alcohol makes you daring and dumb, that's why people say you see how someone really is when drunk; marijuana makes you lazy and dumb. Oh, look at that, someone who DOESN'T fit a stereotype, I've never heard of that happening before (besides the fact that stereotype means 'majority', implying not everyone falls within it).

Alright, if you really didn't care you would have moved on. You know you don't fit the stereotype, and if you read my comments more thoroughly you would have realized I was only referring to people who abuse the drug (hence: Pot-head, or Stoner, rather than: Anyone who uses it ever). But you obviously care, which means it bothers you, and if it bothers you it means you feel like you have something to prove. Are YOU sure you don't fall into the stereotype? I know I have something to prove, and that's all those who abuse narcotics are pieces of shit, what do you feel the urge to prove to me?
#31 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
Hey, you'd actually have a point too, if smoking were the only way to partake of weed. That, and referencing studies that are greatly disputed by many scientists world-wide. As a matter of fact, the main study that supports this belief had a counter-study done that actually proved the opposite. fact of the matter is, as long as it is seen as a negative thing, studies can say whatever those who oppose the drug want them to say.
User avatar #32 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
What are you gonna do, parachute it? Inject it? There are other ways to partake in it but all of them (that I've heard of, anyways) involve smoke or fume inhalation. No Scientist disputes that smoke is bad for your lungs, and saying they do is just idiotic.

Very well then, find me studies that say, through years of research, marijuana has no harmful side-effects. (For the record: Upon asking a former pot-head, she agreed that it was very physiologically addictive as well)
#34 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
the fume causes absolutely no lung damages, according to several studies taken. It is actually better for your lungs than an albuterol inhaler, which can cause long term damage despite being considered a medicine. Furthermore, vaping does not involve smoke. thus, scientists don't have to give a fuck what smoke does to the lungs. Have you never heard of edibles? and not once did I say it has no negative side effects. However, so does overconsumption of meat, soy, dairy, etc. Nearly everything can be linked to at least one negative side effect after long term exposure and/or excessive amounts.
User avatar #35 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ya, I'm gonna need citation for that

I've heard of edibles, but you can't exactly do much with them except bake them into things, and I'm near positive that that cannot be too healthy for you either

Indeed, and that's what I said in my first comment too, that abusing any substance has harmful side effects. Just as well, I live in British Columbia, one of the most 'pot-head' filled provinces in all of Canada. It is very easy to see the negative effect it has on people, as I have yet to meet a single person who does it excessively that does not have a slurred speech, slow speech, low cognitive ability, and a lack of ambition. The only reason extensive studies have not been done is simply because it hasn't been used (or, rather, legally used) enough to MAKE an extensive study out of it
#36 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
www.alternet.org/drugs/5-biggest-lies-anti-pot-propagandist-kevin-sabet?paging=off

its not the source on albuterol, but it'll have to due as far as overall sources go because I'm going to bed. Got school then work early tomorrow.
User avatar #54 - respirator (08/22/2013) [-]
Ah yes the infinite wisdom of yahoo answers, you are such a scholar. You want to call me disgusting you sickeningly ignorant individual? How about you stop arguing against something that helps millions of people lead healthier happier lives you degenerate fuck.
User avatar #65 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ironic, isn't it? When I post a yahoo answers, it's all false and slander; yet if YOU did it to support your argument, it would be totally legitimate, right?

"Healthier happier lives", healthy as in getting lung cancer and having an increased risk of dementia and other mental disorders? Happier as in having very little energy or ambition and seeing nothing past your next bowl (heh) of cheerioes? Go fuck yourself you piece of shit stoner
User avatar #106 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes in various cultures for close to 3000 years. There has never been any proven link between marijuana and an increased rsik in mental disorders, this is most likely because it is often times grouped with hallucinogens such as LSD and psilocybin that do have a proven correlation with mental disorders. There is clearly lung damage from smoke inhalation, but there haven't been any documented negative effects of taking it orally, besides the intended effects, which aren't too dissimilar to alcohol.
Now, concerning the pothead stereotype. I have any interesting theory concerning this. Perhaps, its not the drug, its the person. There are incredibly intelligent and successful people that use all sorts of drugs frequently. But there are also lots of unsuccessful people that already lack ambition and all of those characteristics you listed, they are the ones who turn to drug use for escapism. What I'm trying to get across is that smoking marijuana doesn't magically turn you into an unsuccessful shitty person, you were most likely already going to become one, and marijuana is an easy way to escape from the reality of this.
Fuck, I don't remember where I was going with this. Stereotypes exist because it makes it easier for you to not have to feel bad about humanity and actually help anyone, its easier to blame drugs then actually try to help people out of the depression that drove them to it in the first place.

User avatar #113 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I refuting its medicinal qualities, I'm just saying that, like any substance, it's bad in abusive doses and you'd have to be an idiot to say it's safer than any other average narcotic (for the record: a lot of things have been used as medicine, from chocolate to liquor. Believe it or not, liquor actually has positive effects on the body as well in small doses; red wine for example makes your veins more elastic and allows blood to run easier).

Nor has there been a proven link between alcohol and abuse, all it does is make you bold and more daring. Yet we can both say that some of the worst abusers are at their worst when drunk

Indeed, but smoking it is the most common form, and again, I'm near positive it's not too healthy to be eating it flat out either (considering what anybody could be mixing into it, as you yourself stated).

I myself wouldn't actually consider it much of a theory considering the majority of pot-heads are not successful and exactly as the stereotype describes them, but hey I'll give it a shot with an open mind. Indeed you're right, it can be the person and, in fact, it is; that's what I said from the start, that it's not the substance that's bad, it's the person who cannot handle it; however, you'd be an idiot to try and tell me that having long term exposure to marijuana DOESN'T have some serious negative mental effects such as a lack of cognitive ability and mental processes. Actually no, stereotypes exist for a reason and often do because of the majority.

Besides, why should I help them? What obligation do I have to a man who let himself dive down that deep on his own accord and turned to drugs instead of helping himself out of it? Let them rot if they feel that bad about themselves, I wouldn't want to live like that either

User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
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#100 - anonymous (08/22/2013) [-]
AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You have got to be fucking kidding me, right? My father drinks alcohol constantly and he is an asshole all the time he drinks it. He makes a fool out of himself and has done things hes not proud of while intoxicated on alcohol. I have used alcohol and I personally dislike it. I have also smoked marijuana. With that being said, I have used both and I prefer to smoke marijuana. I personally would rather have my kids smoke than drink because I know the effects of both things. I dont have the urge to go over the speed limit while high, I dont have the urge to beat my wife while high. I believe you havent tried marijuana, but I dont care its your decision and I respect it. I didnt try marijuana till I graduated high school, but i did try alcohol and got drunk at 15.
tl;dr If you havent tried both then shut your fucking mouth! I have and know the effects of both.
and no im not a pot head, I smoke maybe once or twice a week.
User avatar #110 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You don't seem to understand, but that's okay, I'll repeat it for you: All substances are bad when you abuse them, because it's not the substance that's bad, but the person who cannot handle it. Your father may be an idiot with liquor, but I've seen far more people act stupid with marijuana than I have with alcohol, I've also been exposed to it far more.

You like one narcotic substance over another, good for you, so do many people. That's like saying "Just because you haven't tried murder, doesn't mean you can't say it isn't awesome". Why don't you stop trying to be so hard core and actually think with your brain rather than your feelings for a second. Would you consider someone an alcoholic if they got drunk once or twice a week? If so, you are to be considered a pot-head.
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User avatar #109 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Why, cause I choose not to do drugs? I could say the same for you, buddy boy
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User avatar #115 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Nor do you know anything about me, so we're in the same boat, aren't we?

I actually have never done any narcotics in my life, I've only ever gotten drunk once and I hated it (although it only ever made me affectionate). I can act on my high horse because unlike many of said stoners or drunks, I an survive without it and do it happily as well. If you NEED a narcotic substance to survive, you're just an idiot

I'm not your guy, dude
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User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
That makes it even more pathetic, doing drugs as a hobby.

Using that same logic, you have no right to judge Hitler because you never committed genocide. Fuck off with your victimization (and for the record, you can always tell who the bigger asshole is when they say "You can't judge me till you've been there")
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User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you do drugs as a hobby? If so, I got some bad news for you...

Say that to second hand smoke (besides, in my experience, stoners blow more pot-smoke in your face than any other narcotic smoker. I've never had a cigarette smoker go out of his way to blow it in my direction, yet I just cannot say that for marijuana smokers). Yes, I get that things aren't bad and only turn bad when bad people use them irresponsibly. As a matter of fact, I understand that to such a degree, I posted it in my very first comment. Fancy that.

No, no it doesn't have an unfair stigma to it, because it's pathetic 'looking forward' to getting high, just like it's pathetic looking forward to getting drunk. Besides, they don't get together to hang out with eachother, they get together to get high, or are you actually trying to tell me they have meaningful conversations and grow positive connections while high on a drug that makes you inherently lazy and slow?

Oh fuck off, no druggie is a victim. If you do it to yourself, you're not a victim, you're just an idiot. Oh great, I'm talking to one of 'those' stoners, the ones who constantly bitch about being kept down by "the man". Look here, I'm in Canada, British Columbia, I don't know where you are, but here half of my highschool was always populated with stoners (most of which were near constantly high. No, I'm not even kidding. We had more drop-outs than straight A students, and that was in one of the generally considered 'good' schools). Nobody here cares if you smoke weed, cops don't even arrest people anymore, nor do they get kicked out of shops or restaurants, they're just told to contain themselves. Most people just don't want you smoking it around them; which is similar to how I feel about it. I don't give a damn what you do with your time as long as you're not being a piece of shit next to me, see?
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User avatar #132 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Because it doesn't actually make you happy, it gives you false happiness. Would you use the same defense for a heroin user? Or a meth-addict? Or a smoker, or a drinker? Believe it or not, I actually have a motto "Either it's all okay or none of it is, any form of compromise is hypocritical" that I use in my day to day life, I deal with everything in absolutes one way or another.

But you're making it seem like it's this grand time where fun is had and relationships are developed, when, in fact, it's just a bunch of people getting stupid in a basement and just sitting there.

BECAUSE YOU`RE JUSTIFYING USING DRUGS IS A HOBBY! Holy shit, how do you not understand how pathetic that is? Seriously? Bowling is a hobby, gaming is a hobby, reading is a hobby; doing drugs as a 'hobby' is just an excuse so you can avoid facing how much of a failure you are that something like that is what you look forward to on a day to day basis. Doing drugs is no more of a hobby than eating is. And no, it`s not immature to outlaw drugs (and you may be surprised that I actually favour decriminalization of marijuana), because drugs are outlawed for a reason (and it certainly isn`t to `keep you down`, my brutha). Besides, you`re only looking at it from one angle, that ``Well, it makes people happy, so there`s nothing wrong with it``, but a lot of addictions make people happy, that`s WHY it`s so easy to get addicted to them, yet it`s just as easy to see how harmful they are

Okay, you`re not a habitual pot user, you still justify drugs as a habit and `get together` activity. You may not be a habitual user, but good gods if I have not met a more stupid sober person. I wasn`t bothering you, was I? As a matter of fact, YOU were the one who came in and told me I sound like a horrible person to be around. So not only did you invite yourself into this debate, but you insulted me first. Why don't you take your 'woe is me' druggie bullshit and go do something productive with your life
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User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Says the guy defending drug abuse as a past-time and 'get together' activity
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#73 - junahi (08/22/2013) [-]
If you get nervous of getting erection you clearly have not been high. You simply don't think about it, unlike if you are drunk and you are thinking it all the time in your head.
User avatar #108 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Wanna tell that to the people I've seen tweaking out like you wouldn't believe when they think people can smell it on them?

You also need to have blood flowing pretty fast to get an erection, if you're in a constant numb or relaxed state, it's not gonna happen easily
User avatar #8 - respirator (08/22/2013) [-]
Hey you'd actually have a point too, If alcohol didn't cause cirrhosis of the liver and cancer, where marijuana is proven to inhibit cancerous cell growth. Where alcohol is poison marijuana is medicine. As much a drug as caffeine is, and just like caffeine it is not advisable for children or even younger people to partake in large amounts.
User avatar #12 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Hey, you'd actually have a point too, if marijuana didn't cause excessive lung damage (as ALL smoke inhalation does), marijuana has also been proving in increasing your chances of dementia and other mental disorders for those that already have a predisposition to it (and even in some cases: those who don't).

As much as I'm sure you rant and rave about how positive marijuana is and how it should be legalized, it doesn't make you any less of a disgusting stoner (and for the record, it's not healthy for children to smoke marijuana either. As a matter of fact, children shouldn't partake in any mind altering or physical inhibiting drugs)
User avatar #107 - demonican (08/22/2013) [-]
You know you can cook food with cannabis and eat it instead of smoke?
User avatar #111 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Yet the majority of the population continues to smoke it. Besides, even if eating it doesn't effect your lungs, I'm not positive it's not exactly the healthiest way to go either
#69 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
I read this comment, I moved on down the content line, and I can't help myself.

What the fuck do you mean disgusting stoner? How do you make statement?
User avatar #112 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
What do you mean what do I mean? The statement is pretty obvious if you just look. I called him a disgusting stoner because I think people who use narcotics are disgusting, and if he's defending them so fervently with such poor arguments he's obviously on the side I'm insulting

What do you mean how do I make that statement? I make it through judgement and critical thinking over the many intoxicated and high people I've seen in my life
#118 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
Do you consider those who consume alcohol to be disgusting as well?
User avatar #119 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Alcohol counts as narcotics, doesn't it? You can drink and smoke all you want, that's fine with me; as long as you don't abuse the substance and don't have a dependency on it. It's not my business what people like to do in their free time, but it becomes my business when stoners or drunks try desperately to shove it in my face about how positive their substance is
#120 - coryxyzagain (08/22/2013) [-]
I just caught the narcotic thing, neither are narcotics. Alcohol is a depressant and Cannabis can be either a depressant or a stimulant depending on the species. This content wasn't shoved in your face, you could of easily clicked an arrow key, the arrows beside the content, anything. You chose to make a comment in which you chose a side, inviting debate.

I had to take the bait, you were being unfair. You call stoners disgusting, but I have seen drunks break up and propose marriage in the same fucking hour. I never see anyone high on Marijuana do that, never. I am 21 and don't drink now even though I enjoy a good amber lager, building my own beautiful home on 7 acres with my girlfriend and our dog. I do not fit the label of "disgusting stoner" that you like to cast with such generalization and prejudice, and I don't appreciate it.
User avatar #121 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Yes, actually; they are both narcotics. Here, I even have the definition: A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, esp. an illegal one.

Nor was my comment shoved in yours and you could have passed on, but you didn't; so you chose a side and are inviting me into it as well. (Besides, I didn't actually choose a side. The content showed alcohol being bad and marijuana being good, I simply posted a comment showing marijuana being bad and alcohol being good, then explained it was the person, not the drug, that abused it and thus did harm).

How was I being unfair by thinking druggies are disgusting? Who DOESN'T (besides druggies)? I've also seen someone high on marijuana never do anything, ever, they just sit and do nothing. Alcohol makes you daring and dumb, that's why people say you see how someone really is when drunk; marijuana makes you lazy and dumb. Oh, look at that, someone who DOESN'T fit a stereotype, I've never heard of that happening before (besides the fact that stereotype means 'majority', implying not everyone falls within it).

Alright, if you really didn't care you would have moved on. You know you don't fit the stereotype, and if you read my comments more thoroughly you would have realized I was only referring to people who abuse the drug (hence: Pot-head, or Stoner, rather than: Anyone who uses it ever). But you obviously care, which means it bothers you, and if it bothers you it means you feel like you have something to prove. Are YOU sure you don't fall into the stereotype? I know I have something to prove, and that's all those who abuse narcotics are pieces of shit, what do you feel the urge to prove to me?
#31 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
Hey, you'd actually have a point too, if smoking were the only way to partake of weed. That, and referencing studies that are greatly disputed by many scientists world-wide. As a matter of fact, the main study that supports this belief had a counter-study done that actually proved the opposite. fact of the matter is, as long as it is seen as a negative thing, studies can say whatever those who oppose the drug want them to say.
User avatar #32 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
What are you gonna do, parachute it? Inject it? There are other ways to partake in it but all of them (that I've heard of, anyways) involve smoke or fume inhalation. No Scientist disputes that smoke is bad for your lungs, and saying they do is just idiotic.

Very well then, find me studies that say, through years of research, marijuana has no harmful side-effects. (For the record: Upon asking a former pot-head, she agreed that it was very physiologically addictive as well)
#34 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
the fume causes absolutely no lung damages, according to several studies taken. It is actually better for your lungs than an albuterol inhaler, which can cause long term damage despite being considered a medicine. Furthermore, vaping does not involve smoke. thus, scientists don't have to give a fuck what smoke does to the lungs. Have you never heard of edibles? and not once did I say it has no negative side effects. However, so does overconsumption of meat, soy, dairy, etc. Nearly everything can be linked to at least one negative side effect after long term exposure and/or excessive amounts.
User avatar #35 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ya, I'm gonna need citation for that

I've heard of edibles, but you can't exactly do much with them except bake them into things, and I'm near positive that that cannot be too healthy for you either

Indeed, and that's what I said in my first comment too, that abusing any substance has harmful side effects. Just as well, I live in British Columbia, one of the most 'pot-head' filled provinces in all of Canada. It is very easy to see the negative effect it has on people, as I have yet to meet a single person who does it excessively that does not have a slurred speech, slow speech, low cognitive ability, and a lack of ambition. The only reason extensive studies have not been done is simply because it hasn't been used (or, rather, legally used) enough to MAKE an extensive study out of it
#36 - aceonfire (08/22/2013) [-]
www.alternet.org/drugs/5-biggest-lies-anti-pot-propagandist-kevin-sabet?paging=off

its not the source on albuterol, but it'll have to due as far as overall sources go because I'm going to bed. Got school then work early tomorrow.
User avatar #54 - respirator (08/22/2013) [-]
Ah yes the infinite wisdom of yahoo answers, you are such a scholar. You want to call me disgusting you sickeningly ignorant individual? How about you stop arguing against something that helps millions of people lead healthier happier lives you degenerate fuck.
User avatar #65 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
Ironic, isn't it? When I post a yahoo answers, it's all false and slander; yet if YOU did it to support your argument, it would be totally legitimate, right?

"Healthier happier lives", healthy as in getting lung cancer and having an increased risk of dementia and other mental disorders? Happier as in having very little energy or ambition and seeing nothing past your next bowl (heh) of cheerioes? Go fuck yourself you piece of shit stoner
User avatar #106 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes in various cultures for close to 3000 years. There has never been any proven link between marijuana and an increased rsik in mental disorders, this is most likely because it is often times grouped with hallucinogens such as LSD and psilocybin that do have a proven correlation with mental disorders. There is clearly lung damage from smoke inhalation, but there haven't been any documented negative effects of taking it orally, besides the intended effects, which aren't too dissimilar to alcohol.
Now, concerning the pothead stereotype. I have any interesting theory concerning this. Perhaps, its not the drug, its the person. There are incredibly intelligent and successful people that use all sorts of drugs frequently. But there are also lots of unsuccessful people that already lack ambition and all of those characteristics you listed, they are the ones who turn to drug use for escapism. What I'm trying to get across is that smoking marijuana doesn't magically turn you into an unsuccessful shitty person, you were most likely already going to become one, and marijuana is an easy way to escape from the reality of this.
Fuck, I don't remember where I was going with this. Stereotypes exist because it makes it easier for you to not have to feel bad about humanity and actually help anyone, its easier to blame drugs then actually try to help people out of the depression that drove them to it in the first place.

User avatar #113 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2013) [-]
You're right, cannabis has been used as medicine, nor am I refuting its medicinal qualities, I'm just saying that, like any substance, it's bad in abusive doses and you'd have to be an idiot to say it's safer than any other average narcotic (for the record: a lot of things have been used as medicine, from chocolate to liquor. Believe it or not, liquor actually has positive effects on the body as well in small doses; red wine for example makes your veins more elastic and allows blood to run easier).

Nor has there been a proven link between alcohol and abuse, all it does is make you bold and more daring. Yet we can both say that some of the worst abusers are at their worst when drunk

Indeed, but smoking it is the most common form, and again, I'm near positive it's not too healthy to be eating it flat out either (considering what anybody could be mixing into it, as you yourself stated).

I myself wouldn't actually consider it much of a theory considering the majority of pot-heads are not successful and exactly as the stereotype describes them, but hey I'll give it a shot with an open mind. Indeed you're right, it can be the person and, in fact, it is; that's what I said from the start, that it's not the substance that's bad, it's the person who cannot handle it; however, you'd be an idiot to try and tell me that having long term exposure to marijuana DOESN'T have some serious negative mental effects such as a lack of cognitive ability and mental processes. Actually no, stereotypes exist for a reason and often do because of the majority.

Besides, why should I help them? What obligation do I have to a man who let himself dive down that deep on his own accord and turned to drugs instead of helping himself out of it? Let them rot if they feel that bad about themselves, I wouldn't want to live like that either

User avatar #129 - festiveorc (08/22/2013) [-]
I agree with you, indulging too much in anything can do damage to your body. I have seen the long term effects of marijuana first hand, and not including lung damage, the short term memory loss and effect on general cognitive abilities seems to have a pretty short recovery time. I'm not saying it's safer than all other drugs but, its certainly not one of the most dangerous, as it is portrayed in legislation.

Concerning edibles, there is a lot of danger in dealing with illegal substances, and I didn't include that in my reasoning. Its not difficult to make edibles using marijuana, so its not very often sold in that form.

Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but relying on them, rather than research, can be dangerous. They exist so that we can easy fit information into hierarchical groups in our mind. We invented the idea of the stoner to encompass anyone who uses marijuana, but I have met successful college students and graduated professionals, as well as homeless people and hippy/pagans that use cannabis.

And its fine to not feel obligated into helping other people. Its just a part of our culture. I just think of drug addicts more so as sick people in need of medical attention, than as criminal undesirables that need to fill our prisons.

Thanks for replying and addressing everything I had to say.
User avatar #131 - captainfuckitall (08/23/2013) [-]
Oh no, my no, I would never say it's one of the most dangerous, I just don't like it when people try to portray it as this 'cure all' medicine.

That's true, and I suppose edibles would be the 'healthier' way of doing it, but (at least here) people add other narcotics and bad stuff and even chemicals to their marijuana all the time, surely the damage to your digestive system would be something to consider, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately for us, research has varied greatly. On one hand they say there are no negative effects, on the other they say there are plenty (as seen in the links posted between me and the other gentleman above), and while we cannot rely upon those we CAN rely upon what our eyes tell us. I don't know, maybe I just live in a particularly 'weeded' area, so I'm exposed to these types of people far more and it effects my judgement.

Ah, the fate of criminals, another fine debate for another fine day. Till then I will simply say I am willing to help those who help themselves, but no more

It was my pleasure. Thank you for a good debate
#9 - anonymous (08/22/2013) [-]
Hey, you'd actually have a point too, if both didn't have some negative side effects if used too much, he hadn't mentioned abusing them, and the part about weed being as harmless as caffeine being complete bullshit
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#513 - anonymous (02/16/2015) [-]
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Man, I think I love you
Man, I think I love you
User avatar #506 to #505 - captainfuckitall (01/26/2015) [-]
Haha, where the hell did that come from?
User avatar #507 to #506 - thediablo (01/26/2015) [-]
I saw that kind of argument that you had and I liked not only what you said but the way you said it, I think you did it pretty cool and everything

if you meant the gif it's from Soul Eater
User avatar #508 to #507 - captainfuckitall (01/26/2015) [-]
That's the first time I heard that. Generally, my abrasive and blunt speech drives most people to dislike me, not give me affection. You're a sweetheart, though.

Haha, no, I did not mean the gif.
User avatar #509 to #508 - thediablo (01/26/2015) [-]
I feel the same way about myself, I have to say that if those speeches were used against me I would feel a little bit upset, but you ask for clear answers and sources, and you try to make the other person think before they speak, I like that in general, not just mindless bashing ahaha
User avatar #510 to #509 - captainfuckitall (01/26/2015) [-]
Well I'm certainly glad you can see the good in my speaking skills. Frankly, I do it to get to the point. I hate having my time wasted for any reason, and so I extend that courtesy to others and try not to waste anyone else's time either; which leads me to being very blunt and brutal in my words so that they cannot be confused or misheard. Though I admit I was frustrated in that debate.
User avatar #511 to #510 - thediablo (01/26/2015) [-]
most of them are frustrating anyway

and yeah, it sucks when people start to get offtrack because of a single comment that you used as an example or something, it's proof that they are desperately trying to derail the conversation to their favor
User avatar #512 to #511 - captainfuckitall (01/26/2015) [-]
Oh well. When you get into a debate with someone, the point should be because you are trying to change your own views, not theirs.

If someone doesn't want to believe something, they won't. End of story. You could use all the proof you want to tell someone the colour of the sky is blue, but if they want it to be green, it will be and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

Thus, the only person you should be focused on changing in a debate is yourself, and only do so to get more perspective on the issues important to you.
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User avatar #494 to #492 - captainfuckitall (12/13/2014) [-]
Well aren't you a sweetheart for helping me get over my fear
#495 to #494 - miia ONLINE (12/13/2014) [-]
im actually about to go to bed but hi
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Who's the artist? Sauce?
User avatar #500 to #499 - miia ONLINE (01/08/2015) [-]
i dont remember and its too late for me to find out
reverse search it
#501 to #500 - aurumleo (01/08/2015) [-]
I found it! The artist's nukomasu. Thanks, Miia. If it weren't for that image, I won't find it.
User avatar #496 to #495 - captainfuckitall (12/13/2014) [-]
Well don't let me keep you. Hi back, and feel free to continue the conversation any time.
User avatar #503 to #502 - captainfuckitall (01/09/2015) [-]
Hello again.
#504 to #503 - miia ONLINE (01/09/2015) [-]
hello

i am exhausted
User avatar #490 - commencingfailure (09/30/2014) [-]
******* retard compares the IS to today's feminists. One could say ignorance is an everspreading cancer, you did your job to increase the spread.
User avatar #491 to #490 - captainfuckitall (09/30/2014) [-]
You seem REALLY mad, friend. Perhaps you should calm down and take some ass ointment before you need to see a doctor
User avatar #489 - myfourthaccount (07/18/2014) [-]
dude, you're like my most favorite person on earth right now haha
User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no ******* mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
User avatar #474 - aherorising (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
#466 - anonymous (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for **** ",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, immature, and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey ONLINE (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey ONLINE (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
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