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#126 - I never played Multiplayer  [+] (1 new reply) 07/10/2013 on Dark Souls 0
User avatar #127 - contradiction (07/10/2013) [-]
well you should
but the lag is sooooo bad. i have never seen such bad lag ( but its so fucking fun)
#109 - I actually love Dark Souls and Demon's Souls, and have never o…  [+] (3 new replies) 07/10/2013 on Dark Souls -1
User avatar #115 - contradiction (07/10/2013) [-]
lag in multiplayer
nuff' said
i did rage, but i have never broken my controller because why would i do that?
User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (07/10/2013) [-]
I never played Multiplayer
User avatar #127 - contradiction (07/10/2013) [-]
well you should
but the lag is sooooo bad. i have never seen such bad lag ( but its so fucking fun)
#293 - Since over half of all marriages end in divorce, and well over… 07/08/2013 on Well put 0
#173 - Most people's parents are divorced Why the hell would you …  [+] (2 new replies) 07/07/2013 on Well put -8
#269 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
"Most people's parents are divorced"
What? Since when?
User avatar #293 - captainfuckitall (07/08/2013) [-]
Since over half of all marriages end in divorce, and well over half the people I've met's parents have split up, including my own
#172 - That's not the problem. The problem is that all these people w… 07/07/2013 on Well put 0
#2 - In the words of a very smart user (who I forget) on a previous…  [+] (6 new replies) 07/07/2013 on Mistakes +8
#3 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
Good luck justifying the deaths of every person who dies because of this "awareness."
#4 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
>make something to cut speeding and accidents
>"people will DIE because of this!"

i'm pretty sure you're in the same group of people who think allowing gay marriage will ruin regular marriage
#6 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
Also it's a 2 lane road, you either end up off the road or in a head-on collision when it comes to accidents. Do either of those sound safe to you?
#5 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
The bridge is going through a body of water and that is probably right in the middle of it. If you're going so fast that you get in an accident you'd probably end up no longer on the bridge.

I'm pro gay marriage, faggot.
User avatar #9 - xgeneration (07/07/2013) [-]
Why don't they just put up signs that say slow down, "something" up ahead?
A lot of signs.
#10 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
Because that would negate the purpose of having a surprise dangerous turn.
#22 - Eh, if I was a character in a book, I would want to die violen…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/07/2013 on LotR Facts Part 2 0
#55 - awec (07/07/2013) [-]
Having read Game of Thrones I'm going to have to disagree with you. I think dying peacefully of old age is rather sweet. "Welcoming Death as an old friend" as it was worded in Harry Potter.
#118 - anonymous (07/07/2013) [-]
Which is actually why I have started appreciating violent deaths. So many beloved main characters have perished in ASOIAF, which makes me....crave for more. In video games, I actually like my character to get outmatched by huge enemies. I like to see my Skyrim character get stabbed through the chest by a vampire or get riposted by a tough ass enemy in Dark Souls. I only think about Robb Stark whenever something like that happens, which saddens me, but also intrigues me because of great storytelling.

TLR, I appreciate violent deaths of main characters.
#36 - But that also means any non-bender who becomes exceptionally s… 06/28/2013 on Hes right, you know 0
#155 - So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is bett… 06/23/2013 on Kim 0
#153 - So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal wo… 06/23/2013 on Kim 0
#152 - The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very … 06/23/2013 on Kim 0
#150 - I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did u…  [+] (6 new replies) 06/23/2013 on Kim 0
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
#148 - I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the horrible th…  [+] (8 new replies) 06/22/2013 on Kim 0
User avatar #149 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
the good things they did are no reason to brush the horrible things they did under the rug. i can't believe im trying to show someone why you shouldn't defend nazis.

i was just going off of your example, quit harping on the lamp, even if it's not real it doesn't really matter because i consider the calculated killing of millions of people much more heinous anyway. there were also lots of worse things that the nazis did condone. ever hear of this guy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
"In another "experiment", he connected a 7-year-old girl's urinary tract to her colon"
User avatar #150 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did under the rug. I'm simply saying you need to be mindful of propaganda and lies told about them; is it really much of a stretch to believe people would lie about conduct coming from Nazi's?

I'm not defending them either (although one could say that everyone deserves a fair defence, no matter what their crimes are. Don't worry, I don't actually believe that). What I'm defending is truth, and the truth of the matter is morals are subjective.

I wasn't 'harping' on the lamp. You mentioned it, I refuted it, simple. If it doesn't matter, why bring it up at all? You were using it as an example of the atrocities they committed, and I simply informed you that your example was mistaken; I'm sure you can find another.

Yes I did hear of him, and after reading all that it's safe to say that he was completely off his rocker. However it also seems much of his work was 'hush-hush'. I'm not saying he snuck in what he's done, but I do get the impression many officials turned a blind eye to his conduct as it wasn't exactly what he was supposed to be doing. Still, as a doctor he should have been more interested in research and development than sheer power and cruelty, and to this end I believe he should have been tried to the fullest extent of the law. What do you think?
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
#146 - Ideology is what makes morals effective, one way or another. A…  [+] (10 new replies) 06/21/2013 on Kim 0
User avatar #147 - cleverguy (06/22/2013) [-]
the point you're missing is that the Nazis committed atrocities and viewed groups of people as subhuman.

oh and as for the lampshade thing:
www.historynet.com/a-human-skin-lampshade-sparks-a-journey-into-the-heart-of-the-holocaust.htm
User avatar #148 - captainfuckitall (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the horrible things they did, but that doesn't give anyone a right to brush the good they did under the rug

Okay, so...there were videos, pictures, documentations, and testimonies that that was, in fact, a lamp made from human skin....yet none of that is provided? I know there is a picture at the bottom, but there is zero documentation or testing by doctors (pictured) that proves it is, in fact, a human lamp. If you're talking about Buchenwald (a Nazi camp for jewish prisoners), which was run by a supremely cruel and corrupt Karl Koch and his wife, then it's more believable (as these two DID make 'souvenirs' out of the dead such as shrunken heads), however, that doesn't mean the Nazis condoned it. As a matter of fact, Koch was investigated by S.S. troops and was arrested and tried tor cruelty and crimes against man-kind (yes, he was given this sentence BY S.S. and other Nazis, because they found his actions and treatment of people abhorrent)

Even the "Nazi's making human soap" is most likely a myth and propaganda unto itself, as human soap was and has never been produced in vast quantities and was proved to be quite ineffective (which explains why). I understand the Nazi's may have been cruel, but they would have never done something horrible 'for the fuck of it'. The very REASON the Nazi's were so feared was because they were so practical and brutally efficient, so such a thing wouldn't match their style or tactics at all
User avatar #149 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
the good things they did are no reason to brush the horrible things they did under the rug. i can't believe im trying to show someone why you shouldn't defend nazis.

i was just going off of your example, quit harping on the lamp, even if it's not real it doesn't really matter because i consider the calculated killing of millions of people much more heinous anyway. there were also lots of worse things that the nazis did condone. ever hear of this guy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
"In another "experiment", he connected a 7-year-old girl's urinary tract to her colon"
User avatar #150 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did under the rug. I'm simply saying you need to be mindful of propaganda and lies told about them; is it really much of a stretch to believe people would lie about conduct coming from Nazi's?

I'm not defending them either (although one could say that everyone deserves a fair defence, no matter what their crimes are. Don't worry, I don't actually believe that). What I'm defending is truth, and the truth of the matter is morals are subjective.

I wasn't 'harping' on the lamp. You mentioned it, I refuted it, simple. If it doesn't matter, why bring it up at all? You were using it as an example of the atrocities they committed, and I simply informed you that your example was mistaken; I'm sure you can find another.

Yes I did hear of him, and after reading all that it's safe to say that he was completely off his rocker. However it also seems much of his work was 'hush-hush'. I'm not saying he snuck in what he's done, but I do get the impression many officials turned a blind eye to his conduct as it wasn't exactly what he was supposed to be doing. Still, as a doctor he should have been more interested in research and development than sheer power and cruelty, and to this end I believe he should have been tried to the fullest extent of the law. What do you think?
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
#144 - And who are you to define what it is to be 'moral'? You are ju…  [+] (12 new replies) 06/21/2013 on Kim +1
User avatar #145 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
i agree that morality is subjective, but what is considered moral overall isn't a person-to-person thing, it is determined by mass opinion and mass opinion has never approved genocide. one ideology at a time may have, but that doesn't make it moral overall.

also calm down.... jeez.

the point of the death penalty is to take someone out of the picture completely. thats the reason. the debate is whether or not the law has the authority to decide if someone is fit to live in society, not whether or not the death penalty has a point.

thats not what im saying, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find that im not trying to say that i have the authority to decide what is moral, but that mass opinion does. also the thing that you wrote that pissed me off the most was this: "he did no different throwing a certain group of people under the bus than we do every day"
reducing his heinous acts to a euphemism and then saying we do that every day is fallacious and despicable.
User avatar #146 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
Ideology is what makes morals effective, one way or another. And I cannot and will not calm down, as I've been explaining this to many people over the course of the day

In your country perhaps, but not in others

I was referring to how the allies threw the Nazis under the bus, despite the fact they were so willing to use Nazi research, technology, man-power, and weapons to their advantage (whilst still calling themselves the heroes and spreading obvious untrue propoganda to make many Nazis seem worse than they were. I.E. Making lamps out of human skin and what-not...); similar to how the Nazis threw the jews under the bus as the main cause for crime and depravity
User avatar #147 - cleverguy (06/22/2013) [-]
the point you're missing is that the Nazis committed atrocities and viewed groups of people as subhuman.

oh and as for the lampshade thing:
www.historynet.com/a-human-skin-lampshade-sparks-a-journey-into-the-heart-of-the-holocaust.htm
User avatar #148 - captainfuckitall (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the horrible things they did, but that doesn't give anyone a right to brush the good they did under the rug

Okay, so...there were videos, pictures, documentations, and testimonies that that was, in fact, a lamp made from human skin....yet none of that is provided? I know there is a picture at the bottom, but there is zero documentation or testing by doctors (pictured) that proves it is, in fact, a human lamp. If you're talking about Buchenwald (a Nazi camp for jewish prisoners), which was run by a supremely cruel and corrupt Karl Koch and his wife, then it's more believable (as these two DID make 'souvenirs' out of the dead such as shrunken heads), however, that doesn't mean the Nazis condoned it. As a matter of fact, Koch was investigated by S.S. troops and was arrested and tried tor cruelty and crimes against man-kind (yes, he was given this sentence BY S.S. and other Nazis, because they found his actions and treatment of people abhorrent)

Even the "Nazi's making human soap" is most likely a myth and propaganda unto itself, as human soap was and has never been produced in vast quantities and was proved to be quite ineffective (which explains why). I understand the Nazi's may have been cruel, but they would have never done something horrible 'for the fuck of it'. The very REASON the Nazi's were so feared was because they were so practical and brutally efficient, so such a thing wouldn't match their style or tactics at all
User avatar #149 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
the good things they did are no reason to brush the horrible things they did under the rug. i can't believe im trying to show someone why you shouldn't defend nazis.

i was just going off of your example, quit harping on the lamp, even if it's not real it doesn't really matter because i consider the calculated killing of millions of people much more heinous anyway. there were also lots of worse things that the nazis did condone. ever hear of this guy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
"In another "experiment", he connected a 7-year-old girl's urinary tract to her colon"
User avatar #150 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did under the rug. I'm simply saying you need to be mindful of propaganda and lies told about them; is it really much of a stretch to believe people would lie about conduct coming from Nazi's?

I'm not defending them either (although one could say that everyone deserves a fair defence, no matter what their crimes are. Don't worry, I don't actually believe that). What I'm defending is truth, and the truth of the matter is morals are subjective.

I wasn't 'harping' on the lamp. You mentioned it, I refuted it, simple. If it doesn't matter, why bring it up at all? You were using it as an example of the atrocities they committed, and I simply informed you that your example was mistaken; I'm sure you can find another.

Yes I did hear of him, and after reading all that it's safe to say that he was completely off his rocker. However it also seems much of his work was 'hush-hush'. I'm not saying he snuck in what he's done, but I do get the impression many officials turned a blind eye to his conduct as it wasn't exactly what he was supposed to be doing. Still, as a doctor he should have been more interested in research and development than sheer power and cruelty, and to this end I believe he should have been tried to the fullest extent of the law. What do you think?
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
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User avatar #143 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
again, considering your own cause to be moral is inevitable, but that doesn't make it moral.

and i thought you'd bring up the death penalty, but there's a reason that the ethics of that have been debated since it's been invented, and it's also why i added the "for no reason" part.

just to let you know, it makes me sick to read you defending the Nazis' position
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
And who are you to define what it is to be 'moral'? You are just one person, after-all. Does your opinion truly trump over the hundreds of thousands of millions that have been through-out history? You really don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. Morals, the very THING you are talking about, the very BASIC principle of 'morality' is SUBJECTIVE. It CHANGES, it has NO absolute or base line. If you consider your cause to be 'good', then your cause IS good to YOU. If others consider your cause to be 'evil', it is evil to THEM, do you understand now?

Indeed they have been debated, but that doesn't mean 'people are coming to terms with the fact it isn't moral'. They're simply changing what they believe the fate of prisoners should be. It is 'for no reason', after-all, killing someone changes nothing, it doesn't teach them anything, it only takes them out of the picture entirely.

And just to let you know, it frustrates me that you don't understand that just because you see something a certain way, doesn't make it concrete. Besides, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find I'm not defending their position at all, I'm simply saying that Hitler didn't consider himself an evil person, and effectively considered himself a 'good' person. Considering my view of morals, he is a 'good person' as he considered himself to be, just like he is an 'evil person' by how others consider him to be. You see?
User avatar #145 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
i agree that morality is subjective, but what is considered moral overall isn't a person-to-person thing, it is determined by mass opinion and mass opinion has never approved genocide. one ideology at a time may have, but that doesn't make it moral overall.

also calm down.... jeez.

the point of the death penalty is to take someone out of the picture completely. thats the reason. the debate is whether or not the law has the authority to decide if someone is fit to live in society, not whether or not the death penalty has a point.

thats not what im saying, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find that im not trying to say that i have the authority to decide what is moral, but that mass opinion does. also the thing that you wrote that pissed me off the most was this: "he did no different throwing a certain group of people under the bus than we do every day"
reducing his heinous acts to a euphemism and then saying we do that every day is fallacious and despicable.
User avatar #146 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
Ideology is what makes morals effective, one way or another. And I cannot and will not calm down, as I've been explaining this to many people over the course of the day

In your country perhaps, but not in others

I was referring to how the allies threw the Nazis under the bus, despite the fact they were so willing to use Nazi research, technology, man-power, and weapons to their advantage (whilst still calling themselves the heroes and spreading obvious untrue propoganda to make many Nazis seem worse than they were. I.E. Making lamps out of human skin and what-not...); similar to how the Nazis threw the jews under the bus as the main cause for crime and depravity
User avatar #147 - cleverguy (06/22/2013) [-]
the point you're missing is that the Nazis committed atrocities and viewed groups of people as subhuman.

oh and as for the lampshade thing:
www.historynet.com/a-human-skin-lampshade-sparks-a-journey-into-the-heart-of-the-holocaust.htm
User avatar #148 - captainfuckitall (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the horrible things they did, but that doesn't give anyone a right to brush the good they did under the rug

Okay, so...there were videos, pictures, documentations, and testimonies that that was, in fact, a lamp made from human skin....yet none of that is provided? I know there is a picture at the bottom, but there is zero documentation or testing by doctors (pictured) that proves it is, in fact, a human lamp. If you're talking about Buchenwald (a Nazi camp for jewish prisoners), which was run by a supremely cruel and corrupt Karl Koch and his wife, then it's more believable (as these two DID make 'souvenirs' out of the dead such as shrunken heads), however, that doesn't mean the Nazis condoned it. As a matter of fact, Koch was investigated by S.S. troops and was arrested and tried tor cruelty and crimes against man-kind (yes, he was given this sentence BY S.S. and other Nazis, because they found his actions and treatment of people abhorrent)

Even the "Nazi's making human soap" is most likely a myth and propaganda unto itself, as human soap was and has never been produced in vast quantities and was proved to be quite ineffective (which explains why). I understand the Nazi's may have been cruel, but they would have never done something horrible 'for the fuck of it'. The very REASON the Nazi's were so feared was because they were so practical and brutally efficient, so such a thing wouldn't match their style or tactics at all
User avatar #149 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
the good things they did are no reason to brush the horrible things they did under the rug. i can't believe im trying to show someone why you shouldn't defend nazis.

i was just going off of your example, quit harping on the lamp, even if it's not real it doesn't really matter because i consider the calculated killing of millions of people much more heinous anyway. there were also lots of worse things that the nazis did condone. ever hear of this guy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
"In another "experiment", he connected a 7-year-old girl's urinary tract to her colon"
User avatar #150 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did under the rug. I'm simply saying you need to be mindful of propaganda and lies told about them; is it really much of a stretch to believe people would lie about conduct coming from Nazi's?

I'm not defending them either (although one could say that everyone deserves a fair defence, no matter what their crimes are. Don't worry, I don't actually believe that). What I'm defending is truth, and the truth of the matter is morals are subjective.

I wasn't 'harping' on the lamp. You mentioned it, I refuted it, simple. If it doesn't matter, why bring it up at all? You were using it as an example of the atrocities they committed, and I simply informed you that your example was mistaken; I'm sure you can find another.

Yes I did hear of him, and after reading all that it's safe to say that he was completely off his rocker. However it also seems much of his work was 'hush-hush'. I'm not saying he snuck in what he's done, but I do get the impression many officials turned a blind eye to his conduct as it wasn't exactly what he was supposed to be doing. Still, as a doctor he should have been more interested in research and development than sheer power and cruelty, and to this end I believe he should have been tried to the fullest extent of the law. What do you think?
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
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User avatar #141 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
depends on what you mean by majority, because im pretty sure only the specific religious group saw it as moral and not even the entire group.

i know ethics change over time and morals are subjective, but there are some things that are pretty standard, such as killing for no reason is wrong. when you let hatred and bigotry guide your actions, you've already become immoral.
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
We already covered that morals change from person to person and culture to culture. Nearly every person in the crusades, whether christian or muslim, considered their cause to be holy and just despite how much innocent blood was shed

Eh, one could say you've perfectly described the death penalty, which has been in effect for thousands of years
User avatar #143 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
again, considering your own cause to be moral is inevitable, but that doesn't make it moral.

and i thought you'd bring up the death penalty, but there's a reason that the ethics of that have been debated since it's been invented, and it's also why i added the "for no reason" part.

just to let you know, it makes me sick to read you defending the Nazis' position
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
And who are you to define what it is to be 'moral'? You are just one person, after-all. Does your opinion truly trump over the hundreds of thousands of millions that have been through-out history? You really don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. Morals, the very THING you are talking about, the very BASIC principle of 'morality' is SUBJECTIVE. It CHANGES, it has NO absolute or base line. If you consider your cause to be 'good', then your cause IS good to YOU. If others consider your cause to be 'evil', it is evil to THEM, do you understand now?

Indeed they have been debated, but that doesn't mean 'people are coming to terms with the fact it isn't moral'. They're simply changing what they believe the fate of prisoners should be. It is 'for no reason', after-all, killing someone changes nothing, it doesn't teach them anything, it only takes them out of the picture entirely.

And just to let you know, it frustrates me that you don't understand that just because you see something a certain way, doesn't make it concrete. Besides, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find I'm not defending their position at all, I'm simply saying that Hitler didn't consider himself an evil person, and effectively considered himself a 'good' person. Considering my view of morals, he is a 'good person' as he considered himself to be, just like he is an 'evil person' by how others consider him to be. You see?
User avatar #145 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
i agree that morality is subjective, but what is considered moral overall isn't a person-to-person thing, it is determined by mass opinion and mass opinion has never approved genocide. one ideology at a time may have, but that doesn't make it moral overall.

also calm down.... jeez.

the point of the death penalty is to take someone out of the picture completely. thats the reason. the debate is whether or not the law has the authority to decide if someone is fit to live in society, not whether or not the death penalty has a point.

thats not what im saying, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find that im not trying to say that i have the authority to decide what is moral, but that mass opinion does. also the thing that you wrote that pissed me off the most was this: "he did no different throwing a certain group of people under the bus than we do every day"
reducing his heinous acts to a euphemism and then saying we do that every day is fallacious and despicable.
User avatar #146 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
Ideology is what makes morals effective, one way or another. And I cannot and will not calm down, as I've been explaining this to many people over the course of the day

In your country perhaps, but not in others

I was referring to how the allies threw the Nazis under the bus, despite the fact they were so willing to use Nazi research, technology, man-power, and weapons to their advantage (whilst still calling themselves the heroes and spreading obvious untrue propoganda to make many Nazis seem worse than they were. I.E. Making lamps out of human skin and what-not...); similar to how the Nazis threw the jews under the bus as the main cause for crime and depravity
User avatar #147 - cleverguy (06/22/2013) [-]
the point you're missing is that the Nazis committed atrocities and viewed groups of people as subhuman.

oh and as for the lampshade thing:
www.historynet.com/a-human-skin-lampshade-sparks-a-journey-into-the-heart-of-the-holocaust.htm
User avatar #148 - captainfuckitall (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the horrible things they did, but that doesn't give anyone a right to brush the good they did under the rug

Okay, so...there were videos, pictures, documentations, and testimonies that that was, in fact, a lamp made from human skin....yet none of that is provided? I know there is a picture at the bottom, but there is zero documentation or testing by doctors (pictured) that proves it is, in fact, a human lamp. If you're talking about Buchenwald (a Nazi camp for jewish prisoners), which was run by a supremely cruel and corrupt Karl Koch and his wife, then it's more believable (as these two DID make 'souvenirs' out of the dead such as shrunken heads), however, that doesn't mean the Nazis condoned it. As a matter of fact, Koch was investigated by S.S. troops and was arrested and tried tor cruelty and crimes against man-kind (yes, he was given this sentence BY S.S. and other Nazis, because they found his actions and treatment of people abhorrent)

Even the "Nazi's making human soap" is most likely a myth and propaganda unto itself, as human soap was and has never been produced in vast quantities and was proved to be quite ineffective (which explains why). I understand the Nazi's may have been cruel, but they would have never done something horrible 'for the fuck of it'. The very REASON the Nazi's were so feared was because they were so practical and brutally efficient, so such a thing wouldn't match their style or tactics at all
User avatar #149 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
the good things they did are no reason to brush the horrible things they did under the rug. i can't believe im trying to show someone why you shouldn't defend nazis.

i was just going off of your example, quit harping on the lamp, even if it's not real it doesn't really matter because i consider the calculated killing of millions of people much more heinous anyway. there were also lots of worse things that the nazis did condone. ever hear of this guy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
"In another "experiment", he connected a 7-year-old girl's urinary tract to her colon"
User avatar #150 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did under the rug. I'm simply saying you need to be mindful of propaganda and lies told about them; is it really much of a stretch to believe people would lie about conduct coming from Nazi's?

I'm not defending them either (although one could say that everyone deserves a fair defence, no matter what their crimes are. Don't worry, I don't actually believe that). What I'm defending is truth, and the truth of the matter is morals are subjective.

I wasn't 'harping' on the lamp. You mentioned it, I refuted it, simple. If it doesn't matter, why bring it up at all? You were using it as an example of the atrocities they committed, and I simply informed you that your example was mistaken; I'm sure you can find another.

Yes I did hear of him, and after reading all that it's safe to say that he was completely off his rocker. However it also seems much of his work was 'hush-hush'. I'm not saying he snuck in what he's done, but I do get the impression many officials turned a blind eye to his conduct as it wasn't exactly what he was supposed to be doing. Still, as a doctor he should have been more interested in research and development than sheer power and cruelty, and to this end I believe he should have been tried to the fullest extent of the law. What do you think?
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
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User avatar #139 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
just because it was in the name of religion didn't make it moral
User avatar #140 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying

Morals and Ethics change over time, they are subjective, changing upon the whims of an individual. They change extremely with every person, every culture, and every 50 or so years. Because committing genocide in the name of your god was considered holy and moral by the majority, it WAS \holy and moral'. Your opinions of right and wrong do not change history
User avatar #141 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
depends on what you mean by majority, because im pretty sure only the specific religious group saw it as moral and not even the entire group.

i know ethics change over time and morals are subjective, but there are some things that are pretty standard, such as killing for no reason is wrong. when you let hatred and bigotry guide your actions, you've already become immoral.
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
We already covered that morals change from person to person and culture to culture. Nearly every person in the crusades, whether christian or muslim, considered their cause to be holy and just despite how much innocent blood was shed

Eh, one could say you've perfectly described the death penalty, which has been in effect for thousands of years
User avatar #143 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
again, considering your own cause to be moral is inevitable, but that doesn't make it moral.

and i thought you'd bring up the death penalty, but there's a reason that the ethics of that have been debated since it's been invented, and it's also why i added the "for no reason" part.

just to let you know, it makes me sick to read you defending the Nazis' position
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
And who are you to define what it is to be 'moral'? You are just one person, after-all. Does your opinion truly trump over the hundreds of thousands of millions that have been through-out history? You really don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. Morals, the very THING you are talking about, the very BASIC principle of 'morality' is SUBJECTIVE. It CHANGES, it has NO absolute or base line. If you consider your cause to be 'good', then your cause IS good to YOU. If others consider your cause to be 'evil', it is evil to THEM, do you understand now?

Indeed they have been debated, but that doesn't mean 'people are coming to terms with the fact it isn't moral'. They're simply changing what they believe the fate of prisoners should be. It is 'for no reason', after-all, killing someone changes nothing, it doesn't teach them anything, it only takes them out of the picture entirely.

And just to let you know, it frustrates me that you don't understand that just because you see something a certain way, doesn't make it concrete. Besides, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find I'm not defending their position at all, I'm simply saying that Hitler didn't consider himself an evil person, and effectively considered himself a 'good' person. Considering my view of morals, he is a 'good person' as he considered himself to be, just like he is an 'evil person' by how others consider him to be. You see?
User avatar #145 - cleverguy (06/21/2013) [-]
i agree that morality is subjective, but what is considered moral overall isn't a person-to-person thing, it is determined by mass opinion and mass opinion has never approved genocide. one ideology at a time may have, but that doesn't make it moral overall.

also calm down.... jeez.

the point of the death penalty is to take someone out of the picture completely. thats the reason. the debate is whether or not the law has the authority to decide if someone is fit to live in society, not whether or not the death penalty has a point.

thats not what im saying, if you actually read without bias or predetermined anger, you would find that im not trying to say that i have the authority to decide what is moral, but that mass opinion does. also the thing that you wrote that pissed me off the most was this: "he did no different throwing a certain group of people under the bus than we do every day"
reducing his heinous acts to a euphemism and then saying we do that every day is fallacious and despicable.
User avatar #146 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
Ideology is what makes morals effective, one way or another. And I cannot and will not calm down, as I've been explaining this to many people over the course of the day

In your country perhaps, but not in others

I was referring to how the allies threw the Nazis under the bus, despite the fact they were so willing to use Nazi research, technology, man-power, and weapons to their advantage (whilst still calling themselves the heroes and spreading obvious untrue propoganda to make many Nazis seem worse than they were. I.E. Making lamps out of human skin and what-not...); similar to how the Nazis threw the jews under the bus as the main cause for crime and depravity
User avatar #147 - cleverguy (06/22/2013) [-]
the point you're missing is that the Nazis committed atrocities and viewed groups of people as subhuman.

oh and as for the lampshade thing:
www.historynet.com/a-human-skin-lampshade-sparks-a-journey-into-the-heart-of-the-holocaust.htm
User avatar #148 - captainfuckitall (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the horrible things they did, but that doesn't give anyone a right to brush the good they did under the rug

Okay, so...there were videos, pictures, documentations, and testimonies that that was, in fact, a lamp made from human skin....yet none of that is provided? I know there is a picture at the bottom, but there is zero documentation or testing by doctors (pictured) that proves it is, in fact, a human lamp. If you're talking about Buchenwald (a Nazi camp for jewish prisoners), which was run by a supremely cruel and corrupt Karl Koch and his wife, then it's more believable (as these two DID make 'souvenirs' out of the dead such as shrunken heads), however, that doesn't mean the Nazis condoned it. As a matter of fact, Koch was investigated by S.S. troops and was arrested and tried tor cruelty and crimes against man-kind (yes, he was given this sentence BY S.S. and other Nazis, because they found his actions and treatment of people abhorrent)

Even the "Nazi's making human soap" is most likely a myth and propaganda unto itself, as human soap was and has never been produced in vast quantities and was proved to be quite ineffective (which explains why). I understand the Nazi's may have been cruel, but they would have never done something horrible 'for the fuck of it'. The very REASON the Nazi's were so feared was because they were so practical and brutally efficient, so such a thing wouldn't match their style or tactics at all
User avatar #149 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
the good things they did are no reason to brush the horrible things they did under the rug. i can't believe im trying to show someone why you shouldn't defend nazis.

i was just going off of your example, quit harping on the lamp, even if it's not real it doesn't really matter because i consider the calculated killing of millions of people much more heinous anyway. there were also lots of worse things that the nazis did condone. ever hear of this guy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
"In another "experiment", he connected a 7-year-old girl's urinary tract to her colon"
User avatar #150 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
I never said they were, nor AM I brushing the wrong they did under the rug. I'm simply saying you need to be mindful of propaganda and lies told about them; is it really much of a stretch to believe people would lie about conduct coming from Nazi's?

I'm not defending them either (although one could say that everyone deserves a fair defence, no matter what their crimes are. Don't worry, I don't actually believe that). What I'm defending is truth, and the truth of the matter is morals are subjective.

I wasn't 'harping' on the lamp. You mentioned it, I refuted it, simple. If it doesn't matter, why bring it up at all? You were using it as an example of the atrocities they committed, and I simply informed you that your example was mistaken; I'm sure you can find another.

Yes I did hear of him, and after reading all that it's safe to say that he was completely off his rocker. However it also seems much of his work was 'hush-hush'. I'm not saying he snuck in what he's done, but I do get the impression many officials turned a blind eye to his conduct as it wasn't exactly what he was supposed to be doing. Still, as a doctor he should have been more interested in research and development than sheer power and cruelty, and to this end I believe he should have been tried to the fullest extent of the law. What do you think?
User avatar #156 - cleverguy (06/24/2013) [-]
how about nothing evil happens in the first place? how about we dont brainwash people for causes based on hate? is that completely lost on you? i know people have done wrong, i know other genocides have happened, why defend any of their moral motives? its ridiculous. they're all horrible and none should be defended.

the only thing i've learned is that you're an arrogant nazi or something
User avatar #154 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
i understand the rationale behind Germany's actions, but while the people believed that jews really were the problem, hitler made them think that (brainwashed) because he was an insane racist.
yes, other countries didn't really care at first because they were antisemitic too, but you have to remember, the nazis were the ones that were actually doing the killing.

there's always corrupt people on government, i know that, but there's one big difference between the countries you mentioned and nazi germany: NAZI GERMANY EXECUTED THE SYSTEMATIC EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC GROUPS OUT OF RACISM AND IRRATIONAL HATRED. NAZISM IS BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL IDEOLOGIES OF ALL TIME
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So I suppose it comes down to a single question, which is better: To do an evil action while believing it is good? Or to let evil happen while knowing it is wrong?

Russia did that too, during WW2. As a matter of fact, more innocent people died under Stalin's hand than died under Hitler's. The difference being that Hitler truly and firmly believed it was best for his country, while Stalin only wanted more power (he also killed jews as well, not just his own people). Many religions have also killed more through-out history

And so here I suppose we've come full circle. Thank you for debating with me on this subject, although I do not believe it can go any further than this. I certainly hope you've learned a thing or two, as I have from you; would you like to leave me with any parting words? I probably won't be replying, but know I will read them
User avatar #151 - cleverguy (06/23/2013) [-]
why would there be a need for propaganda when their real actions are already so heinous?

im not denying that morals are subjective, but those who believe in the extermination of races are either brainwashed or insane.

you mentioned it first and you didn't refute anything. you were using it as an example of false propaganda and i tried to show you that it wasn't false. and of course i can find others, i just linked the lamp story because, again, YOU mentioned it.

yes he was batshit insane and everyone was well aware of what he was doing
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
So? The Italian government pays off the Mafia to do illegal work they cannot do themselves. The American government breaks its own laws every day and violates rights to privacy and human decency. The Eastern European governments gauge civilians, steal from them, arrest them unlawfully, and give themselves tax breaks. I'm not even going to MENTION the crimes of the Russian, Chinese, or Israeli governments

EVERY power turns a blind eye to misconduct when it supports them. The Nazis were no different, and you cannot hate them anymore than you must hate other governments (and if you say that what Joseph did was worse than what our governments do, I don't feel I should remind you that North American police are accused of more rapes, beatings, murders, unlawful arrest, and corruption than nearly every other government. America alone allows its soldiers to rape and torture even innocent civilians in times of war and in their internment camps they deny nearly every basic human right and take great pleasure in doing so. England turns a blind eye to religious killings and mutilation rituals of innocent civilians because they do not want to get involved. Russia has rigged elections all the time and if anyone tries to be lawful or fair about it, they 'disappear', never to be seen again). Every country in the WORLD has done horrible crimes against humanity, beyond forgiveness and retribution, but even you and I turn a blind eye to it right now because it's in our favour and usual best interest. So don't tell me that if you were in a position of assistant to Joseph, you would have stopped him. It's easy to be lawful, just, and righteous when you're not directly involved
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that you must ask that question proves you have very little understanding of the art behind warfare, more-so it means you've done very little research on your own time. Understandable, of course; nobody could hold that against you, nor do I.

Very true, but you're forgetting that The Treaty of Versailles put the Germans in a VERY hard position, so much so that their depression was even worse than Americas. When Hitler rose to power, he brought them out of it and made them a super-power, AND he blamed the depression on the jews. By very virtue of him being able to bring them out of such a down-point, they figured he must have known what he was talking about. People to go insane lengths to preserve their family, life, and heritage when it all seems like it's about to be snatched away from them. Of course this is no excuse, but it's part of the rationale. Just as well, the 'Final Solution' was called so for a reason. Originally Hitler simply wanted to ship the jews off or move them to other countries, just get them out of Germany; but because of the Treaty, they lacked the proper funds to do so and the cheapest, most efficient way of getting them out was killing them. England, Canada, France, America, Russia, and most countries also turned a blind eye to their conduct and didn't care for the fate of the jews. It wasn't JUST a 'Nazi problem', it was a WORLD problem that nobody wanted to take responsibility for. It is EVERYONE'S fault that it happened, not JUST Hitlers or the Nazis, and what makes ME sick is that despite the fact it's everyone's fault, all these Allied countries make themselves out to be the hero of the tale and brag about how humanitarian they are, all while CONTINUING to turn a blind-eye to war criminals provided they work for the government.

That's true, I did mention it first. But I already said (and have proof that) chances are it was just a myth and rumour. And while it COULD have been true, it certainly wasn't a 'Nazi' thing, it was Koch
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#195 - originalanonymous (06/20/2013) [-]
No it's a bible sermon from my church it was about how Satan was jealous of humans when he was a angle and he was banished for interfering with god's creation.
User avatar #196 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
And you'd trust your Church to speak for Satan? Honestly, the LAST person I would trust to ask about the character of a specific person would be their enemy. If you want to know what Satan is actually like, why not look up a source that is neither bias toward or against him? Or better yet, talk to him yourself
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#185 - originalanonymous (06/20/2013) [-]
But the reason why Satan gave eve the fruit in the first place was to piss off god for banishing him to hell
User avatar #192 - captainfuckitall (06/20/2013) [-]
And you can speak for Satan?
#195 - originalanonymous (06/20/2013) [-]
No it's a bible sermon from my church it was about how Satan was jealous of humans when he was a angle and he was banished for interfering with god's creation.
User avatar #196 - captainfuckitall (06/21/2013) [-]
And you'd trust your Church to speak for Satan? Honestly, the LAST person I would trust to ask about the character of a specific person would be their enemy. If you want to know what Satan is actually like, why not look up a source that is neither bias toward or against him? Or better yet, talk to him yourself
User avatar #52 - abachonk (06/20/2013) [-]
In fact, I believe that god is constantly bulding himself by letting the universe just be.

Going from nothing to all.

He's everything after all, so while we live, he completes himself.

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User avatar #489 - myfourthaccount (07/18/2014) [-]
dude, you're like my most favorite person on earth right now haha
User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no ******* mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
User avatar #474 - aherorising ONLINE (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
#466 - anonymous (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for **** ",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, immature, and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
User avatar #461 - potgardener (06/01/2013) [-]
youre pretty ****** in the head if beating a kid is a good idea, parents would need to hit their kids if they taught them what was right and wrong from the beginning
User avatar #462 to #461 - captainfuckitall (06/01/2013) [-]
It's ironic how you talk about avoiding situations, when your very comment isn't needed considering I already explained, about five times now, that I do not mean you must 'abuse' your children in order to get good results. My comment, and all the comments afterwards, were about how when compassion and support fails you must turn to punishment and discipline, including simply smacking your kid upside the head

Perhaps you should read more and get better informed before jumping to opinions, yes?
#459 - bossdelainternet (05/11/2013) [-]
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest  threads i've seen this year.   
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...   
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest threads i've seen this year.
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
User avatar #460 to #459 - captainfuckitall (05/11/2013) [-]
I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult

I choose the former

Thank you, good sir
#453 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
I just thought I'd let you know that I just did an awful thing and quoted your majestic deep words of death wisdom onto my facebook. I gave you credit, but as part of my shame for stealing I thought I'd tell you. That was honestly one of the best things I've ever read.

Which is also why I screencapped it. Don't worry I swear I'm not going to try to get to frontpage with it I just wanted to save it.
User avatar #454 to #453 - captainfuckitall (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all, I am not concerned with thumbs in the least. If you would like to post it, by all means do so, if you'd like to take credit, do so as well; I care not for material value or fame, as long as comprehend and understand the message
#455 to #454 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
Oh man you just keep getting better:)    
   
But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
Oh man you just keep getting better:)

But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
#449 - captainspankmonkey (02/27/2012) [-]
Internet problems
That is why :P
User avatar #450 to #460 - captainfuckitall (02/27/2012) [-]
ahhh, haha, sorry then :P
#447 - anonymous (09/26/2011) [-]
you're a lovely person
User avatar #448 to #458 - captainfuckitall (09/26/2011) [-]
awe, thank you, kind stranger :3

that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D
#444 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
Im becoming level 28 soon
User avatar #445 to #454 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2011) [-]
sooooooooooooooooon............
User avatar #446 to #455 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
very soooooooooooooooooooooon......
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