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#155 - And do you know him personally, or his efforts, or history? He…  [+] (5 new replies) 07/22/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle -1
User avatar #159 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
No I don't know him personally, but I don't need to for me to make a comment like that.

I know why he was knighted and why people today are, but you're missing my point, NO respectable or honourable person would force others to call them by their title. So YOU shouldn't try forcing others to call him by his title, if he was a respectable or honourable person, he wouldn't want you to.
User avatar #160 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
But you still should. Kinda like if you're eating a cake in front of someone, it's common courtesy to offer them a piece even if they didn't buy it. I'm not trying to force anyone to call him by his title, nor is he (he's kinda dead), but you SHOULD include his title when addressing him for the sake of respect

How do you have such a hard time with this concept?
User avatar #161 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't like the snobbery that is involved with noble titles, that's what I have a hard time with
User avatar #162 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
Good gods man, it's not snobbery if it's earned. Relax
User avatar #163 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
It's not necessarily snobbery when you're given it, but forcing people to call you it would be snobbery, like you're encouraging people to do
#153 - Despite the fact I don't subscribe to the christian or catholi…  [+] (7 new replies) 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle +1
User avatar #154 - lordmoldywart (07/21/2013) [-]
By title you know that I meant noble titles, don't spin this off on a tangent

Sure people who work hard to deserve to be respected, but my beef with noble titles is that there are/were many normal, working-class people who work/worked a lot harder and get/got no respect or recognition whatsoever. For Doyle to be respected and recognised and for much harder-working people not to be, is ludicrous in my opinion and is why I don't think he deserves the be called sir
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
And do you know him personally, or his efforts, or history? He didn't live in royal times, he wasn't BORN a noble, he was knighted by the Queen for some great task or another (as most modern knights often are)
User avatar #159 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
No I don't know him personally, but I don't need to for me to make a comment like that.

I know why he was knighted and why people today are, but you're missing my point, NO respectable or honourable person would force others to call them by their title. So YOU shouldn't try forcing others to call him by his title, if he was a respectable or honourable person, he wouldn't want you to.
User avatar #160 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
But you still should. Kinda like if you're eating a cake in front of someone, it's common courtesy to offer them a piece even if they didn't buy it. I'm not trying to force anyone to call him by his title, nor is he (he's kinda dead), but you SHOULD include his title when addressing him for the sake of respect

How do you have such a hard time with this concept?
User avatar #161 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't like the snobbery that is involved with noble titles, that's what I have a hard time with
User avatar #162 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
Good gods man, it's not snobbery if it's earned. Relax
User avatar #163 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
It's not necessarily snobbery when you're given it, but forcing people to call you it would be snobbery, like you're encouraging people to do
#151 - He's not considered superior, but he was knighted as a sign of…  [+] (9 new replies) 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle +1
User avatar #152 - lordmoldywart (07/21/2013) [-]
Any respectable person wouldn't want others to call them by their title, it shows they don't have an ego. I sincerely hope Arthur Conan Doyle didn't require others to call him by his title, if he did he has no respect from me. If he didn't require others to call him by his title, he has my respect, and that also means you shouldn't require others to call him by his title
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
Despite the fact I don't subscribe to the christian or catholic faith, I still call priests "Father", because that's their title and they spent years working diligently to earn it and deserve the respect that comes with it

He DESERVES to have an ego, whether he has one or not. I'm sure the title wasn't given to him because it was 'Knighting Day', he probably had to do very hard and important tasks in order to get it. Whether he asks you to call him by his title or not, you SHOULD, because he worked incredibly hard to have it. You would never in a million years call a doctor or a judge "dude", because that's stupid and disrespectful. You'd call them "doctor" and "your honour", because that's their position that they worked to achieve. Paying homage to titles just means YOU respect their diligence and efforts
User avatar #154 - lordmoldywart (07/21/2013) [-]
By title you know that I meant noble titles, don't spin this off on a tangent

Sure people who work hard to deserve to be respected, but my beef with noble titles is that there are/were many normal, working-class people who work/worked a lot harder and get/got no respect or recognition whatsoever. For Doyle to be respected and recognised and for much harder-working people not to be, is ludicrous in my opinion and is why I don't think he deserves the be called sir
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
And do you know him personally, or his efforts, or history? He didn't live in royal times, he wasn't BORN a noble, he was knighted by the Queen for some great task or another (as most modern knights often are)
User avatar #159 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
No I don't know him personally, but I don't need to for me to make a comment like that.

I know why he was knighted and why people today are, but you're missing my point, NO respectable or honourable person would force others to call them by their title. So YOU shouldn't try forcing others to call him by his title, if he was a respectable or honourable person, he wouldn't want you to.
User avatar #160 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
But you still should. Kinda like if you're eating a cake in front of someone, it's common courtesy to offer them a piece even if they didn't buy it. I'm not trying to force anyone to call him by his title, nor is he (he's kinda dead), but you SHOULD include his title when addressing him for the sake of respect

How do you have such a hard time with this concept?
User avatar #161 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't like the snobbery that is involved with noble titles, that's what I have a hard time with
User avatar #162 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
Good gods man, it's not snobbery if it's earned. Relax
User avatar #163 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
It's not necessarily snobbery when you're given it, but forcing people to call you it would be snobbery, like you're encouraging people to do
#7 - I'm not even mad anymore I'm just disappointed with life  [+] (1 new reply) 07/21/2013 on (1) 0
#12 - disappointed (07/23/2013) [-]
A Lot of people on FJ are disappointed.

Trust me. I know.
#10 - So this is it, huh? This is what we're doing? … 07/21/2013 on Bread People 0
#51 - In a comment below, he has a brother in the Order of the Knigh…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle +1
User avatar #156 - JNS (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't have a brother in it, I am a brother in it.
the Knights of Columbus is technically a religious fraternity so it's members are brothers as well as knights
#50 - Good that you caught that, but the principle is still the same… 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle -7
#422 - Very well then, we shall simply agree to disagree, and know th… 07/21/2013 on Supportive Dad 0
#32 - He died LONG before this was posted, however 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle -1
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#30 - I'm sorry, I suppose I'll just ignore every homosexual super s…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/21/2013 on Gays 0
User avatar #32 - memeinmycoffee (07/21/2013) [-]
When the majority of the minority is oppressed, there will be a few who shine through.
#21 - So? Wouldn't you be upset if someone didn't honour your proper… 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle 0
#75 - I've actually known Atheists that were terribly against homose… 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy 0
#3 - *SIR Authur Conan Doyle Gods damn it, have some respect  [+] (31 new replies) 07/21/2013 on Arthur Conan Doyle +236
User avatar #82 - lordmoldywart (07/21/2013) [-]
Nobility is bullshit, nobody should be considered superior to others
User avatar #151 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
He's not considered superior, but he was knighted as a sign of grand duty and character, we should respect that
User avatar #152 - lordmoldywart (07/21/2013) [-]
Any respectable person wouldn't want others to call them by their title, it shows they don't have an ego. I sincerely hope Arthur Conan Doyle didn't require others to call him by his title, if he did he has no respect from me. If he didn't require others to call him by his title, he has my respect, and that also means you shouldn't require others to call him by his title
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
Despite the fact I don't subscribe to the christian or catholic faith, I still call priests "Father", because that's their title and they spent years working diligently to earn it and deserve the respect that comes with it

He DESERVES to have an ego, whether he has one or not. I'm sure the title wasn't given to him because it was 'Knighting Day', he probably had to do very hard and important tasks in order to get it. Whether he asks you to call him by his title or not, you SHOULD, because he worked incredibly hard to have it. You would never in a million years call a doctor or a judge "dude", because that's stupid and disrespectful. You'd call them "doctor" and "your honour", because that's their position that they worked to achieve. Paying homage to titles just means YOU respect their diligence and efforts
User avatar #154 - lordmoldywart (07/21/2013) [-]
By title you know that I meant noble titles, don't spin this off on a tangent

Sure people who work hard to deserve to be respected, but my beef with noble titles is that there are/were many normal, working-class people who work/worked a lot harder and get/got no respect or recognition whatsoever. For Doyle to be respected and recognised and for much harder-working people not to be, is ludicrous in my opinion and is why I don't think he deserves the be called sir
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
And do you know him personally, or his efforts, or history? He didn't live in royal times, he wasn't BORN a noble, he was knighted by the Queen for some great task or another (as most modern knights often are)
User avatar #159 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
No I don't know him personally, but I don't need to for me to make a comment like that.

I know why he was knighted and why people today are, but you're missing my point, NO respectable or honourable person would force others to call them by their title. So YOU shouldn't try forcing others to call him by his title, if he was a respectable or honourable person, he wouldn't want you to.
User avatar #160 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
But you still should. Kinda like if you're eating a cake in front of someone, it's common courtesy to offer them a piece even if they didn't buy it. I'm not trying to force anyone to call him by his title, nor is he (he's kinda dead), but you SHOULD include his title when addressing him for the sake of respect

How do you have such a hard time with this concept?
User avatar #161 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't like the snobbery that is involved with noble titles, that's what I have a hard time with
User avatar #162 - captainfuckitall (07/22/2013) [-]
Good gods man, it's not snobbery if it's earned. Relax
User avatar #163 - lordmoldywart (07/22/2013) [-]
It's not necessarily snobbery when you're given it, but forcing people to call you it would be snobbery, like you're encouraging people to do
#42 - devout feminist (07/21/2013) [-]
And BTW, it would only be "Sir Arthur" then. Would also be a sign of respect to actually know that.
User avatar #50 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
Good that you caught that, but the principle is still the same.

Protip: No it wouldn't. Otherwise they would only introduce him as "Sir Arthur", rather than "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle", as they do in all of his writings. Just because you caught a spelling mistake doesn't make me any less correct
#40 - devout feminist (07/21/2013) [-]
Yes, spelling his name wrong sure was a sign of respect.
#25 - devout feminist (07/21/2013) [-]
He wasn't a knight at the time.
User avatar #32 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
He died LONG before this was posted, however
#5 - johrai (07/21/2013) [-]
Here in 'MURICA we had us a fancy war to get rid of the Monarchy and all their damn classy titles. So, he's just MR. Authur Conan Doyle.
User avatar #21 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
So? Wouldn't you be upset if someone didn't honour your proper title, even if it wasn't a part of their culture (seeing as you earned it)
#6 - JNS (07/21/2013) [-]
Just because we don't have a monarchy doesn't me we cannot honor other peoples titles ... or have knights ourselves -- i'm an american too and I was knighted
#28 - BerryLicious (07/21/2013) [-]
Knighted for what? And was it by Her Majesty?
User avatar #51 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
In a comment below, he has a brother in the Order of the Knights of Columbus. I suppose that would make him an honorary member (unless he actually does do work for them. In that case, good for him)
User avatar #156 - JNS (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't have a brother in it, I am a brother in it.
the Knights of Columbus is technically a religious fraternity so it's members are brothers as well as knights
#27 - BerryLicious has deleted their comment.
#8 - johrai (07/21/2013) [-]
Sure, if you want, go ahead. My point is we fought against the Monarchy for a reason. Additionally, it is illegal in the US for any titles, such as Knight, be recognized in court or any other legal mater.

Also no, you were not Knighted, the KKK doesn't count.
#19 - devout feminist (07/21/2013) [-]
....."Mr. President.".....
User avatar #13 - imthecook (07/21/2013) [-]
so? you can still demand to be called Sir JNS by your friends.

also, im pretty sure british government would be better atm.
User avatar #9 - JNS (07/21/2013) [-]
the KKK doesn't have anything to do with knights ... I'm pretty sure their leader is the Grand Wizard.
I am a brother of the Knights of Columbus
#17 - devout feminist (07/21/2013) [-]
HAHAHAHA, congrats you were "knighted" by a pseudo-catholic cult. Also kind of funny how you deny the links between the KoC and the KKK.
User avatar #157 - JNS (07/22/2013) [-]
I've heard people call the KoC a cult before but I've never heard it compared to the KKK ... I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter
#7 - Spikeydeath (07/21/2013) [-]
by a king in a truck stop?
#10 - JNS (07/21/2013) [-]
sure
#6 - I absolutely love that logic "Cheese curds are t…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/21/2013 on Gays +65
User avatar #22 - memeinmycoffee (07/21/2013) [-]
You may be able to tell by lack of rights and whatnot, gays aren't SUPER popular overall.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I'm sorry, I suppose I'll just ignore every homosexual super star on TV who is regularly exonerated for being said sexual orientation
User avatar #32 - memeinmycoffee (07/21/2013) [-]
When the majority of the minority is oppressed, there will be a few who shine through.
User avatar #17 - skypatrol (07/21/2013) [-]
Well seeing how 'gay' usually means suckish and bad. with no reference to homosexuality.
At least,
thats how it is in my world
therefore it was a type of pun
#69 - There's no sport to it if they admit it 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy +2
#68 - Good for you, strong morals are a good thing to have (even if …  [+] (2 new replies) 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy 0
#74 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I agree with you that most of our sense of morals were born out of religion and passed on through society. But my biggest problem with religion is the idea of heaven and hell. When the bible says to be a good person, that's good. But when the bible says be a good person or burn for eternity in a lake of fire, that's bad. It doesn't teach people a sense of right and wrong or how to distinguish between the two. It's just a way of coercing people to comply with whatever's written in the bible out of fear. You will never meet an anti-gay atheist because although their sense of morality may have been born from religion, without religion they can make up their own mind about how moral/immoral homosexuality is. The bible says it's immoral but I believe it is not. I see religion as a historical stepping stone to civilized society but in this day and age It is less relevant.

Anyway, I gotta go. It was nice to debate you, even after that rough start.
User avatar #75 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I've actually known Atheists that were terribly against homosexuality because they believed it wasn't natural and that marriage should be between a man and a woman
#63 - I chose stamps because I felt it was the only one that made se… 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy 0
#62 - You didn't offend me. Yes, because as a matter of fact I found…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy 0
#65 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I am 22 but I became an atheist when I was about 15ish. As for a philosophy to live by, I find that atheists generally have very strong moral codes. Christian people tell me that atheists cannot know morality if they don't believe in the bible but the opposite is true. I do the right thing not because I think I will be eternally rewarded for it, or out of fear of hell. I do the right thing because it is the right thing, firmly believing that I will never be rewarded for it after death.
User avatar #68 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
Good for you, strong morals are a good thing to have (even if they may be detrimental at times)

Unfortunately you're incorrect. You never see a lion care if it slaughters a baby sheep, because it's an animal and doesn't care as long as it's fed. The reasons why humans have morals is not because of an innate sense of personal belief brought about by themselves, but rather, their culture and those around them (deciding what you like and dislike by bouncing it off others). For example, some people believe slavery is wrong, why? Because they believe that all people have a right to freedom. But they cannot come across this belief for themselves for the very same reason lions can't. They come across the concept of slavery whether in books, stories, philosophy, religion, culture, or even personal experience, and through that experience they decide whether they believe it is right or not (and that in itself mostly depends upon their position within it, which also ties with experience). I cannot decide whether I like a colour I've never seen because I've never seen it. Nor can we as a whole have an opinion of something we neigh have a concept of

The point I'm trying to get at is that morals and ethics were, in fact, mostly brought about by philosophy and religions/systems of beliefs at the time, which later translated into culture and society and back out into religion
#74 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I agree with you that most of our sense of morals were born out of religion and passed on through society. But my biggest problem with religion is the idea of heaven and hell. When the bible says to be a good person, that's good. But when the bible says be a good person or burn for eternity in a lake of fire, that's bad. It doesn't teach people a sense of right and wrong or how to distinguish between the two. It's just a way of coercing people to comply with whatever's written in the bible out of fear. You will never meet an anti-gay atheist because although their sense of morality may have been born from religion, without religion they can make up their own mind about how moral/immoral homosexuality is. The bible says it's immoral but I believe it is not. I see religion as a historical stepping stone to civilized society but in this day and age It is less relevant.

Anyway, I gotta go. It was nice to debate you, even after that rough start.
User avatar #75 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I've actually known Atheists that were terribly against homosexuality because they believed it wasn't natural and that marriage should be between a man and a woman
#54 - "I am a free thinker who does not believe in whichever fa…  [+] (8 new replies) 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy 0
#60 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
BTW I did use the term 'fairy tale' to be demeaning because I found your original post to be belittling. And does it really make me an asshole because I believe that my opinion is superior? I mean doesn't everybody? If you thought your opinion was inferior it wouldn't be your opinion anymore.
User avatar #63 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I chose stamps because I felt it was the only one that made sense. "Be proud that you didn't kill someone? You SHOULD be proud of that. Proud you don't support war? Some people are. Hmm, I need something that has no philosophical or emotional value tied to it, similar to a hobby that does not take up much conflict or time in one's life" and so stamps were the go-to

Yes, because opinions are subjective and can neither be right nor wrong (however, some opinions and beliefs can be inherently 'better' depending upon your values. I, for example, value productivity, so I see the process of cutting ones self out of depression as stupid, because it does nothing productive). Which is exactly why they are constantly subjected to change
#57 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I am sorry if I offended you. By 'free thinker' I mean that I have a different set of beliefs as my parents. Let me ask you this: I don't know what religion you belong to but I am going to take a guess and say you are Christian. If your parents happened to be Jewish, or Hindu, do you believe that you still would have found Jesus and discovered Christianity to be the one true religion? This is the question that haunted me before I became an atheist. I came to conclusion that having Christian parents made me biased and the only way to truly find answers was to detach myself from their belief system. Once I did that I looked around at all the religions fighting one another and realized that all religious beliefs are simply a product of different cultures growing separately. The only answer for me is that none of them could be correct
User avatar #62 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
You didn't offend me. Yes, because as a matter of fact I found my system of belief regardless of my socio or economic background.

Very good and wise thinking for someone so young (I'm going to equally assume you're fairly young, given the general populace of this website). However, just because a system is not right for you doesn't mean it's not right for another. The problem with religious people is that they tend to believe in just that, a form of 'religion' rather than philosophy that they can live by. You never hear a philosophy that tells you to kill another with a different one (although some do praise conflict and bloodshed)
#65 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I am 22 but I became an atheist when I was about 15ish. As for a philosophy to live by, I find that atheists generally have very strong moral codes. Christian people tell me that atheists cannot know morality if they don't believe in the bible but the opposite is true. I do the right thing not because I think I will be eternally rewarded for it, or out of fear of hell. I do the right thing because it is the right thing, firmly believing that I will never be rewarded for it after death.
User avatar #68 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
Good for you, strong morals are a good thing to have (even if they may be detrimental at times)

Unfortunately you're incorrect. You never see a lion care if it slaughters a baby sheep, because it's an animal and doesn't care as long as it's fed. The reasons why humans have morals is not because of an innate sense of personal belief brought about by themselves, but rather, their culture and those around them (deciding what you like and dislike by bouncing it off others). For example, some people believe slavery is wrong, why? Because they believe that all people have a right to freedom. But they cannot come across this belief for themselves for the very same reason lions can't. They come across the concept of slavery whether in books, stories, philosophy, religion, culture, or even personal experience, and through that experience they decide whether they believe it is right or not (and that in itself mostly depends upon their position within it, which also ties with experience). I cannot decide whether I like a colour I've never seen because I've never seen it. Nor can we as a whole have an opinion of something we neigh have a concept of

The point I'm trying to get at is that morals and ethics were, in fact, mostly brought about by philosophy and religions/systems of beliefs at the time, which later translated into culture and society and back out into religion
#74 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I agree with you that most of our sense of morals were born out of religion and passed on through society. But my biggest problem with religion is the idea of heaven and hell. When the bible says to be a good person, that's good. But when the bible says be a good person or burn for eternity in a lake of fire, that's bad. It doesn't teach people a sense of right and wrong or how to distinguish between the two. It's just a way of coercing people to comply with whatever's written in the bible out of fear. You will never meet an anti-gay atheist because although their sense of morality may have been born from religion, without religion they can make up their own mind about how moral/immoral homosexuality is. The bible says it's immoral but I believe it is not. I see religion as a historical stepping stone to civilized society but in this day and age It is less relevant.

Anyway, I gotta go. It was nice to debate you, even after that rough start.
User avatar #75 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I've actually known Atheists that were terribly against homosexuality because they believed it wasn't natural and that marriage should be between a man and a woman
#53 - No, you don't seem to understand. I'm not arguing what YOU bel… 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy +2
#48 - No, that's being a pretentious ass because you believe you hav…  [+] (11 new replies) 07/21/2013 on i found black daddy +1
#52 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
An atheist knows that he has very little knowledge about the universe. He chooses not to seek answers in thousands-of-years-old texts. How is that pretentious?
#80 - devout feminist (07/21/2013) [-]
That's agnostic, not atheist.
User avatar #54 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
"I am a free thinker who does not believe in whichever fairy tale happens to be more popular in the region where I grew up". That's what makes you pretentious. By saying you are a free thinker due to your lack of faith, you imply others are not free thinkers because of their faith. Furthermore, using 'whichever fairy tail' in that context is demeaning to the beliefs of those around you, implying you believe your opinion is superior

Besides, I can't disagree that it's silly to look for knowledge in thousand year old texts, but it IS good to look there for wisdom. The future holds knowledge, the past holds wisdom, the present holds insight. That's how it always is
#60 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
BTW I did use the term 'fairy tale' to be demeaning because I found your original post to be belittling. And does it really make me an asshole because I believe that my opinion is superior? I mean doesn't everybody? If you thought your opinion was inferior it wouldn't be your opinion anymore.
User avatar #63 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I chose stamps because I felt it was the only one that made sense. "Be proud that you didn't kill someone? You SHOULD be proud of that. Proud you don't support war? Some people are. Hmm, I need something that has no philosophical or emotional value tied to it, similar to a hobby that does not take up much conflict or time in one's life" and so stamps were the go-to

Yes, because opinions are subjective and can neither be right nor wrong (however, some opinions and beliefs can be inherently 'better' depending upon your values. I, for example, value productivity, so I see the process of cutting ones self out of depression as stupid, because it does nothing productive). Which is exactly why they are constantly subjected to change
#57 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I am sorry if I offended you. By 'free thinker' I mean that I have a different set of beliefs as my parents. Let me ask you this: I don't know what religion you belong to but I am going to take a guess and say you are Christian. If your parents happened to be Jewish, or Hindu, do you believe that you still would have found Jesus and discovered Christianity to be the one true religion? This is the question that haunted me before I became an atheist. I came to conclusion that having Christian parents made me biased and the only way to truly find answers was to detach myself from their belief system. Once I did that I looked around at all the religions fighting one another and realized that all religious beliefs are simply a product of different cultures growing separately. The only answer for me is that none of them could be correct
User avatar #62 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
You didn't offend me. Yes, because as a matter of fact I found my system of belief regardless of my socio or economic background.

Very good and wise thinking for someone so young (I'm going to equally assume you're fairly young, given the general populace of this website). However, just because a system is not right for you doesn't mean it's not right for another. The problem with religious people is that they tend to believe in just that, a form of 'religion' rather than philosophy that they can live by. You never hear a philosophy that tells you to kill another with a different one (although some do praise conflict and bloodshed)
#65 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I am 22 but I became an atheist when I was about 15ish. As for a philosophy to live by, I find that atheists generally have very strong moral codes. Christian people tell me that atheists cannot know morality if they don't believe in the bible but the opposite is true. I do the right thing not because I think I will be eternally rewarded for it, or out of fear of hell. I do the right thing because it is the right thing, firmly believing that I will never be rewarded for it after death.
User avatar #68 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
Good for you, strong morals are a good thing to have (even if they may be detrimental at times)

Unfortunately you're incorrect. You never see a lion care if it slaughters a baby sheep, because it's an animal and doesn't care as long as it's fed. The reasons why humans have morals is not because of an innate sense of personal belief brought about by themselves, but rather, their culture and those around them (deciding what you like and dislike by bouncing it off others). For example, some people believe slavery is wrong, why? Because they believe that all people have a right to freedom. But they cannot come across this belief for themselves for the very same reason lions can't. They come across the concept of slavery whether in books, stories, philosophy, religion, culture, or even personal experience, and through that experience they decide whether they believe it is right or not (and that in itself mostly depends upon their position within it, which also ties with experience). I cannot decide whether I like a colour I've never seen because I've never seen it. Nor can we as a whole have an opinion of something we neigh have a concept of

The point I'm trying to get at is that morals and ethics were, in fact, mostly brought about by philosophy and religions/systems of beliefs at the time, which later translated into culture and society and back out into religion
#74 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
I agree with you that most of our sense of morals were born out of religion and passed on through society. But my biggest problem with religion is the idea of heaven and hell. When the bible says to be a good person, that's good. But when the bible says be a good person or burn for eternity in a lake of fire, that's bad. It doesn't teach people a sense of right and wrong or how to distinguish between the two. It's just a way of coercing people to comply with whatever's written in the bible out of fear. You will never meet an anti-gay atheist because although their sense of morality may have been born from religion, without religion they can make up their own mind about how moral/immoral homosexuality is. The bible says it's immoral but I believe it is not. I see religion as a historical stepping stone to civilized society but in this day and age It is less relevant.

Anyway, I gotta go. It was nice to debate you, even after that rough start.
User avatar #75 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
I've actually known Atheists that were terribly against homosexuality because they believed it wasn't natural and that marriage should be between a man and a woman
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#49 - anonmynous (07/21/2013) [-]
Isn't it? You said theism is a system of belief and atheism is not. Atheism is very much a system of belief. It is the belief that the universe was not created by god and rather, by the big bang/evolution. As an atheist I find the way you continually assert that atheists have no belief system incredibly offensive and intolerant.
User avatar #53 - captainfuckitall (07/21/2013) [-]
No, you don't seem to understand. I'm not arguing what YOU believe Atheism means. I'm arguing the dictionary definition. In nearly every scientific context, putting "A" as in "Atheism" or "Asexuality" means LACK OF, the same way that "Mono" means one, and "Bi" means two.

The very definition of Atheism means you simply have no system of belief. And yes, before you say anything, there actually IS a system of faith where "There is absolutely no god and I know it" has its own term, because it's a separate system of belief

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User avatar #489 - myfourthaccount (07/18/2014) [-]
dude, you're like my most favorite person on earth right now haha
User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no fucking mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
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User avatar #474 - aherorising (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
#466 - devout feminist (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for shit",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, immature, and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
User avatar #461 - potgardener (06/01/2013) [-]
youre pretty fucked in the head if beating a kid is a good idea, parents would need to hit their kids if they taught them what was right and wrong from the beginning
User avatar #462 to #461 - captainfuckitall (06/01/2013) [-]
It's ironic how you talk about avoiding situations, when your very comment isn't needed considering I already explained, about five times now, that I do not mean you must 'abuse' your children in order to get good results. My comment, and all the comments afterwards, were about how when compassion and support fails you must turn to punishment and discipline, including simply smacking your kid upside the head

Perhaps you should read more and get better informed before jumping to opinions, yes?
#459 - bossdelainternet (05/11/2013) [-]
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest  threads i've seen this year.   
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...   
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest threads i've seen this year.
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
User avatar #460 to #459 - captainfuckitall (05/11/2013) [-]
I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult

I choose the former

Thank you, good sir
#453 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
I just thought I'd let you know that I just did an awful thing and quoted your majestic deep words of death wisdom onto my facebook. I gave you credit, but as part of my shame for stealing I thought I'd tell you. That was honestly one of the best things I've ever read.

Which is also why I screencapped it. Don't worry I swear I'm not going to try to get to frontpage with it I just wanted to save it.
User avatar #454 to #453 - captainfuckitall (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all, I am not concerned with thumbs in the least. If you would like to post it, by all means do so, if you'd like to take credit, do so as well; I care not for material value or fame, as long as comprehend and understand the message
#455 to #454 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
Oh man you just keep getting better:)    
   
But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
Oh man you just keep getting better:)

But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
#449 - captainspankmonkey (02/27/2012) [-]
Internet problems
That is why :P
User avatar #450 to #460 - captainfuckitall (02/27/2012) [-]
ahhh, haha, sorry then :P
#447 - devout feminist (09/26/2011) [-]
you're a lovely person
User avatar #448 to #458 - captainfuckitall (09/26/2011) [-]
awe, thank you, kind stranger :3

that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D
#444 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
Im becoming level 28 soon
User avatar #445 to #454 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2011) [-]
sooooooooooooooooon............
User avatar #446 to #455 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
very soooooooooooooooooooooon......
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