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#204 - I know it's not necessary, but just for clarification... …  [+] (10 replies) 11/05/2016 on OCCULT BLOOD RITUALS +7
#238 - anon (11/05/2016) [-]
Luciferian here, pretty bummed about being lumped in with these sick fuckers too.
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#240 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
I know how you feel. Perhaps you can help >>#226 with his comp?
#247 - anon (11/05/2016) [-]
I'd like to, but to be honest I don't know what good it would do. I've attempted to explain before and been called everything from goat fucker to pedophile (both amusingly and sickeningly enough given the context of what we're finding out here).

I'd hate for someone else to go through that because they attempted to educate the masses as well.
#220 - anon (11/05/2016) [-]
Make a comp about it
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#222 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
I would, but I don't quite know how....
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#226 - wilfredfanforever (11/05/2016) [-]
I'll do it
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#228 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
That would be wonderful! If you'd like to consult me about anything, in that case, please feel free to do so.

Source: I'm a Satanist.
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#229 - wilfredfanforever (11/05/2016) [-]
I probably will

I am also a Satanist and all this Podesta shit makes my stomach turn
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#208 - toaofmemory (11/05/2016) [-]
Same basic ideology, though: the worship of self and hedonism.
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#221 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
Not quite. The goal isn't pleasure, but mastery. They worship the self, not out of pride, but to have a realization that they can do anything. They participate in Hedonism, not to get drunk on it, but to expand experiences and embrace human nature.

It's a much different mind-set associated with each. Comparable to drinking liquor to get shitfaced vs. drinking it to have the experience being drunk gives you, you see?
#17 - I'm glad you think so. I don't mean to muck up any of…  [+] (2 replies) 11/05/2016 on When redpanels memes... 0
#18 - chuchiereaper (11/05/2016) [-]
My ex was all into that shit, satanism, demonology, the occult and what not and to be honest, it was really interesting. They say knowledge is power I enjoyed reading about it., all the princes of hell and the 7,405,926 demons in hell. Just one other question, because I know if you ever told me irl that you were a satanist, have you ever told anyone that and they just start laughing at you? Because I'm sorry to say I would do that. My best friend told me she was dating a pagan and I started laughing, calling him a degenerate and saying let me go get my cross and fagots to burn him at the stake.
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#19 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
Haha, nay, no one has laughed at me, but they have called me ignorant and told me I didn't know what I was talking about.

The most resistance I have gotten wasn't even from Christians, but Fedora-Tier Atheists.
#44 - I know it's not necessary, but just for clarification... …  [+] (9 replies) 11/05/2016 on CBS:Can you forgive me? +3
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#58 - captainprincess (11/05/2016) [-]
if I recall laveyan satanism also has a kind of "one chance before you're fucked" policy

like there's this one ruling I recall hearing:
If someone is bothering you in your home, ask them once to leave. If they do not, destroy them"
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#74 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
Correct. This is true for nearly all sects of Satanism as well, since they see things along the line of 'turning the other cheek' as weakness and leading to doom. It would be like an immune system turning the other cheek to a potential virus.
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#75 - captainprincess (11/05/2016) [-]
And that's why I find them to be fundamentally psychopathic
turning the other cheek takes a personal strength, as does finding a reason to in the first place

just ignoring what someone did to you out of fear is not turning the other cheek
that's betraying your own self worth

to actually stop, think, and forgive someone their actions takes about as much resolve and courage as does confronting them and standing your ground, with obviously very different results

but I do find the phrasing hilarious everytime i see it. It's so politely written and calmly worded, and then "destroy him"
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#76 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
Very few people or ideas in the world are actually evil. We all want the same thing. Freedom to pursue our dreams and the happiness and joy of those we love. We just have different ideas of what it takes to get there. That's why Democracy came about in the first place, to be able to discuss the best course for everyone.

Haha, Satanists find it very funny too. That's often one of the biggest notes of why Satanism is 'edgy', the writing in the LaVeyan Bible, but really I think it's like that because it cannot be misconstrued. It's easy to manipulate "All enemies of X must be put Y", as that could mean conversion, exile, or death, and why so MANY religions have so many different interpretations of what their god meant. It's quite hard to misunderstand "Destroy him".
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#77 - captainprincess (11/05/2016) [-]
I guess but
is it really necessary to resort to such destructive commands just in order to be crystal clear?
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#80 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
I don't know, I'm not the one who wrote it. If I had to say though, I would only note that Satanism places a lot of importance on things like self defense and revenge, since it goes along with justice. Everyone deserves a chance to correct themselves, but if they refuse, why should YOU have to compromise just so they can continue on their way? What does that serve? Who does it help?

If the point of Satanism is perfection, then surely, as we both note, standing up for yourself and realizing your self worth would certainly be part of that. It's only that Christianity and Satanism have different definitions for what it means to DO that, and that's okay.
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#81 - captainprincess (11/05/2016) [-]
Well I guess that's a philosophical crossroads
I'm of the "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" mentality, in that I think revenge serves only to make things worse and deplete the chances for actual justice

I don't think justice means retribution, but instead that those who are taken from be given back to
preferrably with what is taken yes, but the emphasis being on righting what is wrong, and not using two wrongs to make a right

What I think compromise serves is to keep the extreme eventuality of all-out bloodshed at bay, because if there's anything I believe people will do it's avenge vengeance

Revenge will only beget more revenge, and it will escalate, slowly or quickly, until someone is killed. There are other ways to punish or sanction the wrong-doers, it need not be vengeful and aggressive.
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#87 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
But is it not true that force only responds to force? It's easy to dream of world peace if only everyone shared the same ideas and beliefs, but that is not so. We all differ in some way, some more staunchly than others, and yet still there are some who say there CANNOT be peace until others believe as they do, which is the failing of all 'peaceful' ideologies.

You cannot use logic to convince someone who doesn't put value on logic, just as you cannot use compassion and compromise to be peaceful with someone who does not value compassion or compromise.

It is true that force breeds force and war breeds war, but it always will, as the world itself will always change. How would you attempt to stop someone such as Kim Jong Un, for example, without violence or bloodshed? Someone who clearly has no regard for common humanity or compassion.
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#102 - captainprincess (11/05/2016) [-]
The only force that doesnt breed more force after it is absolute destruction
and I cant bring myself to support that either
#15 - I know it's not necessary, but just for clarification... …  [+] (14 replies) 11/05/2016 on When redpanels memes... +1
#21 - kaboomz (11/05/2016) [-]
there is no such thing as an atheist worshipping satan
if you believe in satan you also believe in god
these people are "religious"

>The aim of ALL Satanism, however, is the same: Perfection.

what a load of horseshit
these people ARE the most degenerate of the degenerates
perfection? they cut themselves and kill animals for fucks sake
are you posting this garbage in every content of this faggotry?
what are you? one of them?
if you are get help
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#51 - undeadwill (11/05/2016) [-]
No like really its just edgy atheism. No animal killing stuff
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#23 - paddypancake (11/05/2016) [-]
Well you don't have to cut yourself and kill animals to be a satanist. Alot of it is just either philosophy or trying to piss off your religious parents. I don't think every satanist needs mental help though some really do.
Coming from someone with a dislike for satanism himself. I didn't read too much about it (wikipedia) but all i read so far was pretty repellant. To me it sounds like the modern kind is mostly about being some edgy-ass egocentrical elitist.
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#22 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
You misunderstand. You are absolutely right, there IS no such thing as an Atheist who worships Satan, because LaVeyan Satanists DON'T worship Satan, they view him as a metaphor.

You also don't have to necessarily believe in god. God and Satan are more of ideas than actual beings at this point. It is equally plausible that 'god' in any physical way is just an embodiment of X intentions or desires made flesh or some other philosophical stuffo.

Once more, you misunderstand. Satanists don't kill animals for anything other than self defense or food, as far as I know. Nor do they harm themselves in the traditional way. It is Devil-Worshipers who do so, and they do so in order to honour an idea of Satan that regular Satanists do not share. You would not say that every Abrahamic religion has the exact same idea of god because they clearly do not, which is why their practices differ. It is the same with the difference between Satanism and Devil-Worship. The god, while the same (in form, at least) follows a different mindset, opportunity, and style of existence.

Somewhat, yes. I am posting it in every mention of Satanic Cults to try to clear up what Satanism actually is vs. ideas regarding it.

Indeed I am.

No thank you.
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#27 - paddypancake (11/05/2016) [-]
There are many types of satanism, theistic or atheistic. Sacrificing stuff and cutting yourself is part of some types of satanism and not part of others. There are satanists who actually worship the devil. You can read that text below if you want, though only the first paragraph is important. Other than that it makes another good point one paragraph or two below. Your type of satanism exists since only half a century. It would be pretty preposterous to make an absolute claim of the term after a much longer and bigger history than laveyan satanism.
Saying "Not all satanists" kill animals for rites and believe in Satan in a real way is reasonable. Saying those who do aren't satanists is absolutely ridiculous.
theisticsatanism.com/scholar/definition.html
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#85 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
You misunderstand.

You are correct in that there are many types of Satanism, but there are also many types of Abrahamic Religions. Islam is not the same as Christianity, despite both being under the umbrella of Abrahamic Religion and having the same god, just as Devil-Worship is not the same as Satanism, despite sharing the same god and terminology. Does that make more sense?

If animal sacrifice and traditional self-harm are aspects of it, then it falls under the branch of Devil-Worship, for it is they who believe that doing evil deeds leads to rewards, while Satanists are either amoral (giving no credit to concepts of good and evil, believing that 'true' forms of either are outside of comprehension) or very ethical (as ideas of self-responsibility, independence, and such things are big parts of the underlying philosophy).

It is true that Satanism in name has only existed recently, but the tenants go back much further. Even in Mesapotamian times they had religious concepts very similar to those of the current Christian ones, except with the 'Rebel' deity being the good one, for example.
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#105 - paddypancake (11/05/2016) [-]
I didn't misunderstand. I just disagree with you. We agree that LaVeyan satanists (christians in your analogy) belong to satanism (abrahamic religions). However, in your analogy, i find it ridiculous to say that followers of the abrahamic religions don't refuse to eat pork: Yes, christians don't refuse to eat pork, but muslims do. Just because your brand of satanism doesn't really believe in satan doesn't mean there aren't any others who do.
It does fall under devil worship but it also falls under satanism. Satanism is includes a group of theological and philosophical views which view Satan in a favourable light.
Devil worship is just a different kind of satanism. You act as if there are no other kinds of satanists than LaVeyans which is wrong.

An interesting comment from the Black Goat Cabals website for you:
theisticsatanism.com/bgoat/who.html

The Black Goat Cabal rejects all such dogma-based definitions of "Satanism" or "true Satanism," for two reasons:
Dogma-based definitions are a never-ending source of pointless bickering within the Satanist scene. People of all kinds who fit our definition of "Satanism" - especially those who actually worship Satan as a deity - are naturally going to think of themselves as Satanists, and thus will inevitably be in conflict with those whose definitions exclude them.
The idea that a Satanist must believe XYZ in order to be a "true Satanist" is contrary to the very things most Satanists believe that Satan stands for in the first place. The vast majority of Satanists - even many of the dogmatists themselves - believe that Satan stands for things like individuality and thinking for oneself.
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#108 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
No, you do indeed misunderstand.

Once more: I am not saying that Satanists do not actually worship Satan. Many do, only LaVeyan Satanists do not, and view him as a metaphor. What I am saying is that, while there are many that do, THEY do not view him as evil, and only as a force of good and righteous ideologies such as justice or freedom. It is the one sect, 'Devil-Worshipers', who believe in the evil Christian version of Satan and perform evil acts to gain praise and power.

I did not in the least act as if there are not other kinds of Satanists than LaVeyan, and I know that for a fact because I am not a LaVeyan Satanist, but a Spiritual one. Why would I try to erase the presence of my own sect? Isn't it more likely that you are just projecting what you think I'm saying?

The term 'Devil-Worship' can apply to people who, indeed, worship Satan in a positive light, but that's not the ACTUAL name of the group associated with such philosophy. Likewise, those who believe in the evil Satan and perform evil deeds are counted as Satanists by definition of the term, but it's not the ACTUAL name of the group associated with such a philosophy. For example, Catholics and Protestants are BOTH Christian and BOTH Abrahamic, yet they are NOT the same sect and cannot be grouped together once the tenants get more specific. Satanists and Devil-Worshipers are BOTH 'Satanists' by definition, but when you specify the tenants they SPLIT into different groups, one of them believing in a 'good' or 'amoral' Satan, the other in an evil one. You see?

Yes, I am well aware what they believe Satan stands for, but obviously definitions must play a role for no other reason than sociological issues. I say this because Satanism is very specific in what it's tenants and 'objectives' are even throughout the separating sects. There is no 'established' Satanic sect that would outright call Satan evil, for example, or thinks of him as so. Just the same, Devil-Worshipers have a different belief in that he IS, and follow DIFFERENT tenants from the other specific ones that Satanists follow.

The better way to look at it is that Satanists, regardless of their sect, tend to believe that Satan (provided he exists) is ancient and odd in ways of understanding, and base their understanding of him on more ancient religions and philosophies; while Devil-Worshipers believe in the Christian definition of Satan, and need no other basis of understanding for it.

Have I made my points more clear?
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#112 - paddypancake (11/05/2016) [-]
"Once more, you misunderstand. Satanists don't kill animals for anything other than self defense or food, as far as I know"

"Satanists and Devil-Worshipers are BOTH 'Satanists' by definition"

The second thing was pretty much the primary point i was making, at least without the '(...)'. The first one however said that those who kill animals for anything for self defense or food (as far as you know) are by default not Satanists. Even though they can clearly fit into the definition.
What i am having an issue with is your sense of classification.
There are 'Satanists' which split into Satanists and Devil-Worshippers. It is pretty confusing with the entire ' ' and it is pretty similar (though i am not accusing you of it being the same) as a no true scotsman. Meaning two different things with the same word is contraproductive.
Why not have Satanists (without the ' '), which split into theological and phylosophical Satanists and then split them into further groups like LaVeyan or even broader classifications first?
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#126 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
Okay, sure, you win.
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#16 - chuchiereaper (11/05/2016) [-]
That's... actually quite interesting.
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#17 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
I'm glad you think so.

I don't mean to muck up any of your posts with this gunk; but I only wish to give clarity as to the nature of the enemy we fight.

I'm a Satanist myself, and all Satanism has taught me in the way of morality was how to walk with a spine straightened from virtue and principle. No good fighting a foe who wants exactly the same thing you do and only has a different method of getting there. That's the reason Democracy was born in the first place.
#18 - chuchiereaper (11/05/2016) [-]
My ex was all into that shit, satanism, demonology, the occult and what not and to be honest, it was really interesting. They say knowledge is power I enjoyed reading about it., all the princes of hell and the 7,405,926 demons in hell. Just one other question, because I know if you ever told me irl that you were a satanist, have you ever told anyone that and they just start laughing at you? Because I'm sorry to say I would do that. My best friend told me she was dating a pagan and I started laughing, calling him a degenerate and saying let me go get my cross and fagots to burn him at the stake.
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#19 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
Haha, nay, no one has laughed at me, but they have called me ignorant and told me I didn't know what I was talking about.

The most resistance I have gotten wasn't even from Christians, but Fedora-Tier Atheists.
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#56 - wattlegobbler (11/05/2016) [-]
Knowing that Hillary is making a deal with them its definitely the goat-sacrificing and blood-orgy-Kind of satanists
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#26 - europe (11/05/2016) [-]
Bruh... They're drinking blood, breast milk and semen....
#61 - anon (11/05/2016) [-]
That sounds like a sex magic rite done by Aleister Crowley. He used to eat cakes with menstrual blood and semen mixed in them. And he wasn't a satanist. Funnily enough he worshiped the old egyptian gods. Google "Cake of Light"
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#62 - europe (11/05/2016) [-]
nty
All I need to know is that these people are mentally ill and need to go to jail/get executed
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#27 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
But I'm trying to explain that such thing is likely part of Devil-Worship or other cults, not necessarily Satanism, or any sects that I know of.
#24 - anon (11/05/2016) [-]
"The aim of ALL Satanism, however, is the same: To be Edgy"

FTFY
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#113 - useroftheLOLZ (11/05/2016) [-]
The bible says slavery and rape is okay.

Satan wholly condemns both acts.

And no, God did not use Slavery as some bullshit metaphor for how we all have slaves in our heart, when the next chapter over, he goes into the logistics of buying and selling slaves.
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#25 - captainfuckitall (11/05/2016) [-]
If you say so, but you would have trolled better if you mentioned that they eat children.
#57 - wattlegobbler (11/05/2016) [-]
No meat, only the blood