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#135 - Called it. You don't even have an argument, do you? I…  [+] (13 new replies) 05/12/2014 on Disney princesses race switch 0
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#16 - You and I know different people. That's based more on culture … 05/12/2014 on No need to steal food 0
#131 - Fuck off back to Tumblr. If you yell at white people enough, p… 05/12/2014 on Disney princesses race switch +4
#130 - So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korea…  [+] (15 new replies) 05/12/2014 on Disney princesses race switch 0
User avatar #132 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Here we have a whiny ass white bitch

Keep crying nigger
User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Called it.

You don't even have an argument, do you? It's just constantly doing mental backflips over your own logic, because it would never apply if the situations were reversed.
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#128 - Yes they are, but if I took a bunch of black stars of characte…  [+] (4 new replies) 05/12/2014 on Disney princesses race switch -1
User avatar #133 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are just so ridiculously butthurt about there not being white people. As if there isn't enough white people.

Keep crying maybe you'll find some nazis who will take you seriously.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not butthurt, but you're right, there's isn't enough white people.
User avatar #137 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are so fucking butthurt. It's hilarious.
User avatar #138 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Says the guy who has no argument, so resorts to mud slinging.
#126 - The 47 independent countries of Europe would like to have a wo…  [+] (18 new replies) 05/12/2014 on Disney princesses race switch 0
User avatar #127 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Mm hmm. They all look the same.

They're distinct cultures with different histories. But don't get all bitchy because there's nothing to draw. Motherfucker face it.

Indians, Native Americans, Middle Easters, Africans, Asians, Latin Americans, Mesoamericans, pretty much everything and everyone but the white people wiill ALWAYS, be more aesthetically pleasing to look at, and speaking as an artist, they are MUCH more fun to draw.

Oh look. A white character. Now I can add....
I can add....
Oh blue eyes....
and....
a dress!

I can add a headress, a piercing, some makeup, braids, flayed clothes, etc, etc.

As an ARTIST, there's no reason to draw them white. This is saying nothing about "white people." I don't hate white people. They just aren't interesting in the slightest.
User avatar #130 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post.

Ha. No thank you, I find white people the most attractive myself. You can hate your own skin all you want, but don't call other people immature when they don't follow your example.

As an artist, there's no reason to draw three separate characters as the same shade of black. Fuck off with your arbitrary logic and self-hating ideology (that is, if you're actually white. If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier, probably because you actually think you're better than me and being a minority would only make the situations reversed)

User avatar #132 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Here we have a whiny ass white bitch

Keep crying nigger
User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Called it.

You don't even have an argument, do you? It's just constantly doing mental backflips over your own logic, because it would never apply if the situations were reversed.
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#129 - slightest (05/12/2014) [-]
I don't usually keep white people in me for this reason.
#14 - That's not too optimistic at all, but the problem is that it s…  [+] (4 new replies) 05/12/2014 on No need to steal food 0
User avatar #28 - icameheretotroll (05/12/2014) [-]
nobody wants people to Do anything
you're implying that we NEED peasants to do low tier jobs
but why? we can have robots and machines doing the job
if we can move forward, we have to
no matter the consequences
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Do you want to build a rocketship?

I mean really, you want to build one right in your workshop? "Well, robots will build it" and give it to you for free? Do you OWN those robots? What happens when other people want to ride your rocketship? Will you even pilot it?

People work because the reward based system is best. They work because they want to afford necessities and luxuries. If they already have needs taken care of, they don't suddenly become artists, engineers, and geniuses, they just have an easier time reaching their luxuries.

This problem is a cultural thing, not a financial thing, and until you realize that you will continue to have flawed arguments that you will never see.
#15 - anonymous (05/12/2014) [-]
People always have an innate need to feel wanted, if they feel wanted for doing a simple job, they'll do it.

Also when/if we reach Post-Scarcity Civilization Status, we'll be able to travel among the stars, people will be jumping on the nearest ship and going lets go exploran

humans in nature have always been travelling and curious by nature, given the chance to do that again, a lot of them would do it
User avatar #16 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
You and I know different people. That's based more on culture than anything anyways; humans are pack animals, but that doesn't mean we naturally involve ourselves.

Okay.

Well yes, that's good for them. But who would want to build the ship if they didn't have to? And when someone does build one, what happens when other people demand to be let aboard despite not doing a thing to help?
#123 - Do you honestly think they DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid…  [+] (26 new replies) 05/12/2014 on Disney princesses race switch -1
User avatar #125 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
They're redrawing them how they WANT to draw them. And if they don't want to draw any of them white who gives a shit.

Jasmine is also from an entirely different culture. Are you honestly saying that middle easterns and africans are the same? Good god man.

They DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid drawing white characters. There was nothing to draw, no reason to draw a white character.

What would it accomplish other than appease a bunch of fedora tippers on some arbitrary site that's going to be down in a month?
User avatar #128 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Yes they are, but if I took a bunch of black stars of characters and made them white while saying "They look better this way", you'd probably say that was racism despite the fact it would just be fan-art.

No I'm not, but aside from the jewelry, they honestly don't look THAT much different. Good gods, man.

Sure there was. Every country in Europe has their own look and culture, and I for one would be very interested to see how Mulan would look in Viking attire.

What would it accomplish making Pocahontas Hispanic?

Your argument is flawed and hypocritical, and would not stand if it were reversed. Never join a debate club.
User avatar #133 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are just so ridiculously butthurt about there not being white people. As if there isn't enough white people.

Keep crying maybe you'll find some nazis who will take you seriously.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not butthurt, but you're right, there's isn't enough white people.
User avatar #137 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are so fucking butthurt. It's hilarious.
User avatar #138 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Says the guy who has no argument, so resorts to mud slinging.
User avatar #124 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
>Culture
>White

Pick one
User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
The 47 independent countries of Europe would like to have a word with you about their cultures.
User avatar #127 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Mm hmm. They all look the same.

They're distinct cultures with different histories. But don't get all bitchy because there's nothing to draw. Motherfucker face it.

Indians, Native Americans, Middle Easters, Africans, Asians, Latin Americans, Mesoamericans, pretty much everything and everyone but the white people wiill ALWAYS, be more aesthetically pleasing to look at, and speaking as an artist, they are MUCH more fun to draw.

Oh look. A white character. Now I can add....
I can add....
Oh blue eyes....
and....
a dress!

I can add a headress, a piercing, some makeup, braids, flayed clothes, etc, etc.

As an ARTIST, there's no reason to draw them white. This is saying nothing about "white people." I don't hate white people. They just aren't interesting in the slightest.
User avatar #130 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post.

Ha. No thank you, I find white people the most attractive myself. You can hate your own skin all you want, but don't call other people immature when they don't follow your example.

As an artist, there's no reason to draw three separate characters as the same shade of black. Fuck off with your arbitrary logic and self-hating ideology (that is, if you're actually white. If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier, probably because you actually think you're better than me and being a minority would only make the situations reversed)

User avatar #132 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Here we have a whiny ass white bitch

Keep crying nigger
User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Called it.

You don't even have an argument, do you? It's just constantly doing mental backflips over your own logic, because it would never apply if the situations were reversed.
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#129 - slightest (05/12/2014) [-]
I don't usually keep white people in me for this reason.
#11 - And why should food be given to everyone, exactly? How will fa…  [+] (11 new replies) 05/12/2014 on No need to steal food 0
User avatar #22 - mrtwilightsparkle (05/12/2014) [-]
Here's a mindblowing fact for you; some farmers are paid not to farm, because we have too much food in circulation.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Got any source for that?
User avatar #25 - mrtwilightsparkle (05/12/2014) [-]
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/01/AR2006070100962.html

Granted, it is done so that food doesn't become too cheap, but in my opinion, I think it makes more sense for our taxes to just pay farmers for free/cheap food, as opposed to paying our taxes to make sure our food stays expensive.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
To be honest, I simply don't know enough about the economy to make an informed judgement of it.

I'm sure there are reasons for it, anyways; the government isn't so stupid as many people believe. Still, it is a bit disheartening to see that, and I hope there's a good explanation behind it.
User avatar #27 - mrtwilightsparkle (05/12/2014) [-]
That's true for just about all of us. I'm probably not well-informed enough either, but seeing as 1/3 of my paycheck goes to Social Security I'm never seeing, I'm not giving the benefit of the doubt.
#13 - icameheretotroll (05/12/2014) [-]
We're slowly evolving as a species and moving towards a better future, anyone can realize that. just because there are stepbacks to good innovations it doesn't mean we have to stop doing it

for example "HOW WILL MAILMEN GET PAID IF WE ALL USE EMAILS??"
as we evolve the job requirements change and shift into a modern one.

hell there might not even be farmers in the future cause there will be a corporation that farms food via machines. all the wealthy citizens will just pay a miniscule amount of tax to pay for the food corporation that is almost cheap like dirt because it takes absolutely no effort to make anymore.

I know I'm too optimistic but it's still possible to make a better future as long as we don't get too greedy
User avatar #14 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
That's not too optimistic at all, but the problem is that it still puts millions out of work. And nearly free food doesn't exactly justify that.

Besides, if everyone had their needs taken care of and focused only on luxuries, what reason would they have to, well, DO anything? You would only do exactly what you need to with the least amount of work to have your hobbies fulfilled, after-all.
User avatar #28 - icameheretotroll (05/12/2014) [-]
nobody wants people to Do anything
you're implying that we NEED peasants to do low tier jobs
but why? we can have robots and machines doing the job
if we can move forward, we have to
no matter the consequences
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Do you want to build a rocketship?

I mean really, you want to build one right in your workshop? "Well, robots will build it" and give it to you for free? Do you OWN those robots? What happens when other people want to ride your rocketship? Will you even pilot it?

People work because the reward based system is best. They work because they want to afford necessities and luxuries. If they already have needs taken care of, they don't suddenly become artists, engineers, and geniuses, they just have an easier time reaching their luxuries.

This problem is a cultural thing, not a financial thing, and until you realize that you will continue to have flawed arguments that you will never see.
#15 - anonymous (05/12/2014) [-]
People always have an innate need to feel wanted, if they feel wanted for doing a simple job, they'll do it.

Also when/if we reach Post-Scarcity Civilization Status, we'll be able to travel among the stars, people will be jumping on the nearest ship and going lets go exploran

humans in nature have always been travelling and curious by nature, given the chance to do that again, a lot of them would do it
User avatar #16 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
You and I know different people. That's based more on culture than anything anyways; humans are pack animals, but that doesn't mean we naturally involve ourselves.

Okay.

Well yes, that's good for them. But who would want to build the ship if they didn't have to? And when someone does build one, what happens when other people demand to be let aboard despite not doing a thing to help?
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#10 - icameheretotroll (05/12/2014) [-]
My opinion is that food should be available to anyone, even if you have money to buy it. we actually have enough food to feed every single human on earth its just not distributed correctly(sourcewww.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm )

if you are considering to get the free food it probably means you are on a low budget which means the food should be available to you as well.
User avatar #11 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
And why should food be given to everyone, exactly? How will farmers get paid?

I have a hard time believing that, simply because I've dealt with these people before. Going to the food bank and getting welfare or something should only be considered a last resort. You know, after you've sold your Ipod and all your jewelry
User avatar #22 - mrtwilightsparkle (05/12/2014) [-]
Here's a mindblowing fact for you; some farmers are paid not to farm, because we have too much food in circulation.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Got any source for that?
User avatar #25 - mrtwilightsparkle (05/12/2014) [-]
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/01/AR2006070100962.html

Granted, it is done so that food doesn't become too cheap, but in my opinion, I think it makes more sense for our taxes to just pay farmers for free/cheap food, as opposed to paying our taxes to make sure our food stays expensive.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
To be honest, I simply don't know enough about the economy to make an informed judgement of it.

I'm sure there are reasons for it, anyways; the government isn't so stupid as many people believe. Still, it is a bit disheartening to see that, and I hope there's a good explanation behind it.
User avatar #27 - mrtwilightsparkle (05/12/2014) [-]
That's true for just about all of us. I'm probably not well-informed enough either, but seeing as 1/3 of my paycheck goes to Social Security I'm never seeing, I'm not giving the benefit of the doubt.
#13 - icameheretotroll (05/12/2014) [-]
We're slowly evolving as a species and moving towards a better future, anyone can realize that. just because there are stepbacks to good innovations it doesn't mean we have to stop doing it

for example "HOW WILL MAILMEN GET PAID IF WE ALL USE EMAILS??"
as we evolve the job requirements change and shift into a modern one.

hell there might not even be farmers in the future cause there will be a corporation that farms food via machines. all the wealthy citizens will just pay a miniscule amount of tax to pay for the food corporation that is almost cheap like dirt because it takes absolutely no effort to make anymore.

I know I'm too optimistic but it's still possible to make a better future as long as we don't get too greedy
User avatar #14 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
That's not too optimistic at all, but the problem is that it still puts millions out of work. And nearly free food doesn't exactly justify that.

Besides, if everyone had their needs taken care of and focused only on luxuries, what reason would they have to, well, DO anything? You would only do exactly what you need to with the least amount of work to have your hobbies fulfilled, after-all.
User avatar #28 - icameheretotroll (05/12/2014) [-]
nobody wants people to Do anything
you're implying that we NEED peasants to do low tier jobs
but why? we can have robots and machines doing the job
if we can move forward, we have to
no matter the consequences
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Do you want to build a rocketship?

I mean really, you want to build one right in your workshop? "Well, robots will build it" and give it to you for free? Do you OWN those robots? What happens when other people want to ride your rocketship? Will you even pilot it?

People work because the reward based system is best. They work because they want to afford necessities and luxuries. If they already have needs taken care of, they don't suddenly become artists, engineers, and geniuses, they just have an easier time reaching their luxuries.

This problem is a cultural thing, not a financial thing, and until you realize that you will continue to have flawed arguments that you will never see.
#15 - anonymous (05/12/2014) [-]
People always have an innate need to feel wanted, if they feel wanted for doing a simple job, they'll do it.

Also when/if we reach Post-Scarcity Civilization Status, we'll be able to travel among the stars, people will be jumping on the nearest ship and going lets go exploran

humans in nature have always been travelling and curious by nature, given the chance to do that again, a lot of them would do it
User avatar #16 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
You and I know different people. That's based more on culture than anything anyways; humans are pack animals, but that doesn't mean we naturally involve ourselves.

Okay.

Well yes, that's good for them. But who would want to build the ship if they didn't have to? And when someone does build one, what happens when other people demand to be let aboard despite not doing a thing to help?
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User avatar #120 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
"The implied racism."
You're reading so much farther into this than Tumblr does into the Pixar theory.
User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Do you honestly think they DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid making white Disney princesses?

I mean good lords, man. It's supposed to show how they would look from a different culture or race and Jasmine is only a single shade darker.
User avatar #125 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
They're redrawing them how they WANT to draw them. And if they don't want to draw any of them white who gives a shit.

Jasmine is also from an entirely different culture. Are you honestly saying that middle easterns and africans are the same? Good god man.

They DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid drawing white characters. There was nothing to draw, no reason to draw a white character.

What would it accomplish other than appease a bunch of fedora tippers on some arbitrary site that's going to be down in a month?
User avatar #128 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Yes they are, but if I took a bunch of black stars of characters and made them white while saying "They look better this way", you'd probably say that was racism despite the fact it would just be fan-art.

No I'm not, but aside from the jewelry, they honestly don't look THAT much different. Good gods, man.

Sure there was. Every country in Europe has their own look and culture, and I for one would be very interested to see how Mulan would look in Viking attire.

What would it accomplish making Pocahontas Hispanic?

Your argument is flawed and hypocritical, and would not stand if it were reversed. Never join a debate club.
User avatar #133 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are just so ridiculously butthurt about there not being white people. As if there isn't enough white people.

Keep crying maybe you'll find some nazis who will take you seriously.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not butthurt, but you're right, there's isn't enough white people.
User avatar #137 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are so fucking butthurt. It's hilarious.
User avatar #138 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Says the guy who has no argument, so resorts to mud slinging.
User avatar #124 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
>Culture
>White

Pick one
User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
The 47 independent countries of Europe would like to have a word with you about their cultures.
User avatar #127 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Mm hmm. They all look the same.

They're distinct cultures with different histories. But don't get all bitchy because there's nothing to draw. Motherfucker face it.

Indians, Native Americans, Middle Easters, Africans, Asians, Latin Americans, Mesoamericans, pretty much everything and everyone but the white people wiill ALWAYS, be more aesthetically pleasing to look at, and speaking as an artist, they are MUCH more fun to draw.

Oh look. A white character. Now I can add....
I can add....
Oh blue eyes....
and....
a dress!

I can add a headress, a piercing, some makeup, braids, flayed clothes, etc, etc.

As an ARTIST, there's no reason to draw them white. This is saying nothing about "white people." I don't hate white people. They just aren't interesting in the slightest.
User avatar #130 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post.

Ha. No thank you, I find white people the most attractive myself. You can hate your own skin all you want, but don't call other people immature when they don't follow your example.

As an artist, there's no reason to draw three separate characters as the same shade of black. Fuck off with your arbitrary logic and self-hating ideology (that is, if you're actually white. If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier, probably because you actually think you're better than me and being a minority would only make the situations reversed)

User avatar #132 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Here we have a whiny ass white bitch

Keep crying nigger
User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Called it.

You don't even have an argument, do you? It's just constantly doing mental backflips over your own logic, because it would never apply if the situations were reversed.
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#129 - slightest (05/12/2014) [-]
I don't usually keep white people in me for this reason.
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User avatar #89 - monsieurhonkhonk (05/12/2014) [-]
Yes, actually. Once again, you're getting pissy about fanart, not anything official, so there's that. Making 5 of the 10+ white Disney princesses wouldn't be doing anything new, so you might as well represent cultures that haven't been represented yet. You said it yourself, that most of them were European tales, so they had a reason to be white.
Honestly? You're just being petty because your race wasn't represented for once. Get over yourself, it's happened to everyone else multiple times over.
User avatar #92 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not getting pissy about anything. I'm explaining to you WHY people are getting pissy.

I'm sorry, I was completely unaware that I can only get upset over official things. You should remember that too, the next time something frustrates you just ask "Is this what they officially wanted?" and if not, you're not allowed to be upset. Man, I am glad we solved that one.

Yes...yes they did...okay? We're not arguing about that. The problem isn't that a single one of them isn't white, it's WHY they aren't white. You know the reputation Tumblr has, and I would not be surprised in the least if we found this girls blog and she was strictly anti-white. The reason why people get upset, if even that, is because of the implied racism and political motives attached to it.

Actually, I don't even think I said once, in ANY of my comments "Man, more of them should be white!". My dissatisfaction stems from the same place where it stems from everyone else, the implied racism behind it. Why don't you get over yourself there buckaroo? You're not any bit more morally righteous than I am seeing as how you are so desperately grasping at straws as to why people shouldn't be upset.
User avatar #120 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
"The implied racism."
You're reading so much farther into this than Tumblr does into the Pixar theory.
User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Do you honestly think they DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid making white Disney princesses?

I mean good lords, man. It's supposed to show how they would look from a different culture or race and Jasmine is only a single shade darker.
User avatar #125 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
They're redrawing them how they WANT to draw them. And if they don't want to draw any of them white who gives a shit.

Jasmine is also from an entirely different culture. Are you honestly saying that middle easterns and africans are the same? Good god man.

They DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid drawing white characters. There was nothing to draw, no reason to draw a white character.

What would it accomplish other than appease a bunch of fedora tippers on some arbitrary site that's going to be down in a month?
User avatar #128 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Yes they are, but if I took a bunch of black stars of characters and made them white while saying "They look better this way", you'd probably say that was racism despite the fact it would just be fan-art.

No I'm not, but aside from the jewelry, they honestly don't look THAT much different. Good gods, man.

Sure there was. Every country in Europe has their own look and culture, and I for one would be very interested to see how Mulan would look in Viking attire.

What would it accomplish making Pocahontas Hispanic?

Your argument is flawed and hypocritical, and would not stand if it were reversed. Never join a debate club.
User avatar #133 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are just so ridiculously butthurt about there not being white people. As if there isn't enough white people.

Keep crying maybe you'll find some nazis who will take you seriously.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not butthurt, but you're right, there's isn't enough white people.
User avatar #137 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are so fucking butthurt. It's hilarious.
User avatar #138 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Says the guy who has no argument, so resorts to mud slinging.
User avatar #124 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
>Culture
>White

Pick one
User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
The 47 independent countries of Europe would like to have a word with you about their cultures.
User avatar #127 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Mm hmm. They all look the same.

They're distinct cultures with different histories. But don't get all bitchy because there's nothing to draw. Motherfucker face it.

Indians, Native Americans, Middle Easters, Africans, Asians, Latin Americans, Mesoamericans, pretty much everything and everyone but the white people wiill ALWAYS, be more aesthetically pleasing to look at, and speaking as an artist, they are MUCH more fun to draw.

Oh look. A white character. Now I can add....
I can add....
Oh blue eyes....
and....
a dress!

I can add a headress, a piercing, some makeup, braids, flayed clothes, etc, etc.

As an ARTIST, there's no reason to draw them white. This is saying nothing about "white people." I don't hate white people. They just aren't interesting in the slightest.
User avatar #130 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post.

Ha. No thank you, I find white people the most attractive myself. You can hate your own skin all you want, but don't call other people immature when they don't follow your example.

As an artist, there's no reason to draw three separate characters as the same shade of black. Fuck off with your arbitrary logic and self-hating ideology (that is, if you're actually white. If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier, probably because you actually think you're better than me and being a minority would only make the situations reversed)

User avatar #132 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Here we have a whiny ass white bitch

Keep crying nigger
User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Called it.

You don't even have an argument, do you? It's just constantly doing mental backflips over your own logic, because it would never apply if the situations were reversed.
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#129 - slightest (05/12/2014) [-]
I don't usually keep white people in me for this reason.
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User avatar #86 - monsieurhonkhonk (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not debating the reason why they're white. I'm saying that people shouldn't get so pissy over the fact that someone made fanart of certain characters as a different race. Making Tiana or someone else white wouldn't bring anything new to the table, since there's plenty of it already. Everyone who's complaining is just being pissy and unreasonable.
User avatar #87 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Ah, I see. So making someone white wouldn't do anything knew, but making them three different types of black totally would. I getcha, I can totally see the completely sound logic behind that... If you were really serious behind that argument, you'd be screaming about how not enough of them were Egyptian because there HASN'T been a Egyptian Princess.

In any case, you ARE debating why they're not white, actually. In your first comment you even asked why people were bitching about them not being white.
User avatar #89 - monsieurhonkhonk (05/12/2014) [-]
Yes, actually. Once again, you're getting pissy about fanart, not anything official, so there's that. Making 5 of the 10+ white Disney princesses wouldn't be doing anything new, so you might as well represent cultures that haven't been represented yet. You said it yourself, that most of them were European tales, so they had a reason to be white.
Honestly? You're just being petty because your race wasn't represented for once. Get over yourself, it's happened to everyone else multiple times over.
User avatar #92 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not getting pissy about anything. I'm explaining to you WHY people are getting pissy.

I'm sorry, I was completely unaware that I can only get upset over official things. You should remember that too, the next time something frustrates you just ask "Is this what they officially wanted?" and if not, you're not allowed to be upset. Man, I am glad we solved that one.

Yes...yes they did...okay? We're not arguing about that. The problem isn't that a single one of them isn't white, it's WHY they aren't white. You know the reputation Tumblr has, and I would not be surprised in the least if we found this girls blog and she was strictly anti-white. The reason why people get upset, if even that, is because of the implied racism and political motives attached to it.

Actually, I don't even think I said once, in ANY of my comments "Man, more of them should be white!". My dissatisfaction stems from the same place where it stems from everyone else, the implied racism behind it. Why don't you get over yourself there buckaroo? You're not any bit more morally righteous than I am seeing as how you are so desperately grasping at straws as to why people shouldn't be upset.
User avatar #120 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
"The implied racism."
You're reading so much farther into this than Tumblr does into the Pixar theory.
User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Do you honestly think they DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid making white Disney princesses?

I mean good lords, man. It's supposed to show how they would look from a different culture or race and Jasmine is only a single shade darker.
User avatar #125 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
They're redrawing them how they WANT to draw them. And if they don't want to draw any of them white who gives a shit.

Jasmine is also from an entirely different culture. Are you honestly saying that middle easterns and africans are the same? Good god man.

They DIDN'T go out of their way to avoid drawing white characters. There was nothing to draw, no reason to draw a white character.

What would it accomplish other than appease a bunch of fedora tippers on some arbitrary site that's going to be down in a month?
User avatar #128 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Yes they are, but if I took a bunch of black stars of characters and made them white while saying "They look better this way", you'd probably say that was racism despite the fact it would just be fan-art.

No I'm not, but aside from the jewelry, they honestly don't look THAT much different. Good gods, man.

Sure there was. Every country in Europe has their own look and culture, and I for one would be very interested to see how Mulan would look in Viking attire.

What would it accomplish making Pocahontas Hispanic?

Your argument is flawed and hypocritical, and would not stand if it were reversed. Never join a debate club.
User avatar #133 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are just so ridiculously butthurt about there not being white people. As if there isn't enough white people.

Keep crying maybe you'll find some nazis who will take you seriously.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
I'm not butthurt, but you're right, there's isn't enough white people.
User avatar #137 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
You are so fucking butthurt. It's hilarious.
User avatar #138 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Says the guy who has no argument, so resorts to mud slinging.
User avatar #124 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
>Culture
>White

Pick one
User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
The 47 independent countries of Europe would like to have a word with you about their cultures.
User avatar #127 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Mm hmm. They all look the same.

They're distinct cultures with different histories. But don't get all bitchy because there's nothing to draw. Motherfucker face it.

Indians, Native Americans, Middle Easters, Africans, Asians, Latin Americans, Mesoamericans, pretty much everything and everyone but the white people wiill ALWAYS, be more aesthetically pleasing to look at, and speaking as an artist, they are MUCH more fun to draw.

Oh look. A white character. Now I can add....
I can add....
Oh blue eyes....
and....
a dress!

I can add a headress, a piercing, some makeup, braids, flayed clothes, etc, etc.

As an ARTIST, there's no reason to draw them white. This is saying nothing about "white people." I don't hate white people. They just aren't interesting in the slightest.
User avatar #130 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post.

Ha. No thank you, I find white people the most attractive myself. You can hate your own skin all you want, but don't call other people immature when they don't follow your example.

As an artist, there's no reason to draw three separate characters as the same shade of black. Fuck off with your arbitrary logic and self-hating ideology (that is, if you're actually white. If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier, probably because you actually think you're better than me and being a minority would only make the situations reversed)

User avatar #132 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Here we have a whiny ass white bitch

Keep crying nigger
User avatar #135 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Called it.

You don't even have an argument, do you? It's just constantly doing mental backflips over your own logic, because it would never apply if the situations were reversed.
User avatar #141 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now I am going to back up why I believe you are a racist.

"So do all black people. And all Indians. And all Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese. And all Natives. And all Hispanics. And yet you'll bitch that I didn't make a distinction between white people. And say right here, that all minorities look that same Oh wait, there are multiple ones of those in this post. "

"If you're not, it just makes the argument funnier So my argument would be even less if I was a minority? Is this perhaps because as a minority my word would be worth less than a white person? , probably because you actually think you're better than me So IF I'm a minority, I must automatically have a superiority complex. and being a minority would only make the situations reversed So If I am a minority you would be automatically better than me. Because I'm a minority. "

I personally do believe that all cultures and people who have white skin are in fact distinct cultures that unfortunately get grouped under the banner of "white people." But I do not believe there is anything aesthetically pleasing about any of them. Especially given their predominance both in the source material and in our world. The artist clearly feels the same.
User avatar #144 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
What, they do, and so do all white people.

No, if you were a minority it would make it funnier, because if the situation was reversed and it was predominantly white people made out of minorities, you'd bitch.

Not automatically, but you've stated multiple times that you think other races look better and have better cultures. Do you even remember your arguments?

Actually, "White" is just an easier way of saying "Caucasian", which is just term for people from certain parts of the world, similar to "Eurasian", or "Negroid". So just because they are common, they are ugly? If that's the case it seems your tastes are based more off of rareness and distinct features than actual likeness, and if you moved to a place with a predominant majority of just that, it would lose its flavour to you.
#150 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
Now take this mildly funny gif asshole
User avatar #149 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
And just to add one more thing.

Even if I DID think it was racist reversed, then you would still have no argument because that is a strawman.

If those are my preferences then it is still exactly that. An opinion and not racist. You still have no argument and there is still no reason to be bitching and whining about the lack of white people. Because it is easily established that it's not a way of saying "I hate white people."
Instead a way of saying
"I prefer non white people."

Whether or not the reverse would be considered racist. (It wouldn't.) Is irrelevant because it isn't a statement against white people. Which was the primary and only argument you presented.
User avatar #146 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
No they don't.

No I wouldn't.

I think other races are more visually appealing. Doesn't mean that I don't like white people you stupid fuck. A hot spanish girl will look better to me than a hot white girl.

But I've still had white girlfriends and have even considered adopting a white child. I've got nothing against white people, being white. I just think you're a fucking retard for thinking that white people are so disparaged.

WOW. Actual progress to understanding. Obviously it will be soiled almost immediately by another retarded comment but I can enjoy the moment.

Yes I do not believe there is anything visually appealing about white people being white. A hot white girl is still hot.
But a hot middle eastern girl is fuckin fine as hell. (shame they're usually religious.)

Which is to say if I had free reign over the races of others like the artist does, you can bet your ass none would be white.

It's not because I hate white people. But there's nothing interesting about them
By contrast there's several things interesting about almost every other culture.
This is MY opinion and clearly the ARTISTS opinion.

captainfuckitall: But if the situations were reversed you would be calling me racist.

No I wouldn't. Stop flattering yourself nigger.
User avatar #153 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Eh, I'm too tired for this shit right now. Mind if I get back to you tomorrow?
User avatar #140 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
What fucking situations. You are over complicating things to a completely unnecessary degree.

The primary thing you're missing here is that the lack of white people is a result of a few things.

1. The predominance of white people in the source material.
2. The preference of other cultures by the artist.
3. The predominance of white people in our actual world.
4. The visual appeal of literally every other culture.

When you think of switching race, you will almost NEVER think to switch TO white. Even when the character is not white. Because this is the predominant race. By contrast it would be deliberate to make a character white. It's amazing how butthurt you get just because there wasn't a white character. Well get off your ass and draw it yourself. Oh wait. You can't draw. So you'll just bitch that your political views aren't represented in the fanart of another persons art. Which was never meant to be political, or a representation of their views. Just what they find cool.
User avatar #180 - predominance (05/17/2014) [-]
I only get mentioned in the most serious of conversations.
User avatar #181 - rhetoricalfunny (05/18/2014) [-]
That's gotta suck
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Due to the stories the films are made from
2. Which you would call racist if they preferred European culture and made other races so
3. You're actually wrong there. There's more Asians than anything.
4. Your personal opinion, which many would disagree with.

Sure I do. When you speak of switching races of a white person, I imagine them as black. When you speak of switching races of a black person, I imagine them as white.

Your logic is flawed because your sources are flawed.

You keep mentioning butthurt as if it's supposed to mean something, but I think it only reflects your attitude now. Out of the two fo us, I am the only one speaking calmly.

Well you're right, I can't actually draw, but if I did you'd bitch about me being racist anyways, so it doesn't matter.
User avatar #143 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. Irrelevant point
2. No I wouldn't
3. Predominant culture. I'm sure as hell not reading chinese here But you can bet your ass there's broken english in japan.
4. Obviously not the artist.

IF they were black. Which is to imply that the only two races are black and white.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that the artist is relying on sterotypes and soft shades to convey the change in race. Which there is nothing wrong with, BUT, there is next to nothing to draw from with "white people." No widely accepted stereotypes, or defining features. I'm not saying that it'd be a challenge for the artist, but it's not worth it when you can have white princesses by looking at the source material. Plus in between our white media, and the white source material (which there is nothing wrong with.) We have enough white people.

You are butthurt. You want to convince me you aren't, but you are absolutely frothing at the mouth. It's ridiculous.

"You have no arguments."
*Valid reasoned and logical argument
"Your arguments stoopid, not enough white people hurr durr!"
User avatar #152 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Umm...no it's not. Black people aren't going to appear in medieval France. Suck it up.

You've literally called me a racist for putting your own points back at you ("All whites look the same" "Well so do all blacks"). I think you're lying.

That's because most scientists are native English speakers. If you go to other parts of the world, English is commonly referred to as "The Language of Science" for that reason. It has nothing to do with how common Caucasians are.

Indeed the artist would agree with you. But the artist is probably also a racist.

You can't be fucking serious right now. Are you seriously grasping at straws that badly? I'm not going to name every single race and give the exact opposite race according to their skin colour.

It's interesting I was "conveniently leaving it out" seeing as how it was not mentioned a single time in this conversation or any other, for that matter. YOU on the other hand are "conveniently" forgetting the fact that every culture in Europe is very distinct from others, even their neighbours. Look throughout history if you don't believe me. And while it may be in YOUR opinion that they all look the same, YOUR opinion is objectively wrong based upon historical standards.

And anime has enough Japanese people. Let me turn your argument back at you; remember when you said if I could draw, I could make them all white if I wanted? Well, when Africa gets their shit together, they can make their own studios and make all of their characters black.

You know all those pictures where it depicts people typing "Lol" and the person who typed it is just sitting there with this disinterested look on their face? Ya.

But they're not valid and logical. If the situation was reversed and you were talking about how there weren't enough black people in the content, and I used your arguments, you would be having none of it.
User avatar #155 - rhetoricalfunny (05/12/2014) [-]
1. It's an irrelevant point because the original reason STILL serves as a VALID reason WHY the artist would choose not to include white people.
2. Your preferences are different from saying "All minorities look the same." I may've said white people look the same but I don't actually believe that. The point was actually more along the lines of there are no blatant visual cues to say that this person is white other than their skin is white.
3. You're blissfully ignorant to the FACT that mainstream western culture is arguably THE dominant culture in the world.
4. Why because they prefer hot dark skinned women over hot white skinned women?
So someone is racist for preferring dark skin over light or vice versa?

Simply put white skinned individuals are not interesting to the artist. Changing Jasmine from Middle Eastern to African was more fun than making her white. Furthermore it's easy to think white. Why not think outside the box. There's already like 20 white people in the source material. Even having 5 of the same redesigned culture doesn't come close to that. So why not?

Again conveniently using only what's beneficial to your argument. The artist is relying on stereotypes. What stereotypes are there of "white people?" Point some out to me. "WHITE PEOPLE." Not Irish, or Russian, or Swiss, or German. Just WHITE PEOPLE. Because that's what people are whining about. I can definitely point out some stereotypes about Native people, and Latin People, Aztec and Egyptian, African, and Middle Eastern, and Asians.


Okay, but for now we have artists with interests in other cultures who are making differently cultured characters without any white people bitching.
Oh wait. Now we've got some prick who thinks that because we live in a place with a lot of white people we are obligated to draw white people. You get this pissed that white people are represented. That's how ALL minorities feel, all the time.

*He says while glaring at the monitor.

Nope.
#129 - slightest (05/12/2014) [-]
I don't usually keep white people in me for this reason.
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User avatar #36 - tenfinnvo (05/11/2014) [-]
Yeah, one of the first comments was about this being subtly racist. That's tumblr for ya.
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#65 - anonymous (05/12/2014) [-]
why would you get upset at all?
User avatar #82 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
Why wouldn't you?
User avatar #50 - Shramin (05/12/2014) [-]
It's not hatred for white skin, its knowledge that making anyone focused as a white person will be mentioned as racists by someone somewhere and it easier to deal with people going "Why is nobody white" than "THIS WHOLE THING IS RACIST BECAUSE ONE CHARACTER IS WHITE INSTEAD OF 'Colour' !"
User avatar #66 - dancingdoggy (05/12/2014) [-]
I hate how people say "white isn't a color!"
Fine. Then I'm pale peachy tan. Deal with it Tumblr. I have color too.
User avatar #70 - Shramin (05/12/2014) [-]
While I get where you are coming from, its an idea that has manifested over a long period of time. White is normal in the eyes of the Media world and the others must be specified.

In direct contrast, all emergency units (Police, Ambulance, Firefighters) have a need to specify with all colours including white, all though whites are often called Caucasian.
User avatar #72 - dancingdoggy (05/12/2014) [-]
I get all that. I just don't like that group of people who are suddenly so angry with how white people are overrepresented that they now act as if being white is horrible and must be repented for.
No one should have to apologize for their colors.
User avatar #77 - Shramin (05/12/2014) [-]
its not a resent phenomena, this has been going on for years, but you are right it is a shame, and it will take a while yet before we can be equal.

People like to think that the world works like it always did, just moving towards better pastures, Yet in South Africa the government in charge is using Mandela's name as a way to empower the black and make it profitable to fire whites in favour of blacks or coloured.
Its like a never ending roller-coaster and at some point that will hit North America as well, though I doubt it will be in the same way since there are far more different ethnic groups in the US than there is in South Africa.
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User avatar #33 - tenfinnvo (05/11/2014) [-]
Did you even read what i had written? "..if the disney princesses were based on OTHER regions of our planet". This is RACE SWITCH, not a MODERN REDRAW.
User avatar #35 - captainfuckitall (05/11/2014) [-]
Ah, I misread, sorry about that.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's subtle racism. Even before scrolling down I knew that not a single one of them would be white, not even the ones who actually WERE black, hispanic, or indian.
User avatar #36 - tenfinnvo (05/11/2014) [-]
Yeah, one of the first comments was about this being subtly racist. That's tumblr for ya.
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#33 - anonymous (05/12/2014) [-]
...Are you serious? Or just profoundly retarded?
User avatar #35 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
He posted a picture saying "Without the beard". I made the logical conclusion that he was trying to show what he looked like without the beard.

If you didn't understand that I'd be more concerned for YOU, young chap.
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(me being tired of writing seriously)
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User avatar #186 - daentraya (05/11/2014) [-]
erry1 wan brownie points its not rly news by now. if ppl got sumfin 2 use they'll use it n mabbeh he just wanna sing n stuff like a human being bcuz singing is liek emotional n means stuff to ppl
User avatar #187 - captainfuckitall (05/11/2014) [-]
Okay.
User avatar #188 - daentraya (05/11/2014) [-]
(me being tired of writing seriously)
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User avatar #189 - totalynotxewi (05/12/2014) [-]
But he isn't transexual. He's a drag queen I think thats the word for it He's a guy but when he's on stage he is a woman. Thats his thing, drags are part of the HBTQ society. He was just doing his thing.

"fitting image" "fitting message"
User avatar #190 - captainfuckitall (05/12/2014) [-]
That's not what the media is saying.

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User avatar #489 - myfourthaccount (07/18/2014) [-]
dude, you're like my most favorite person on earth right now haha
User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no fucking mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
User avatar #474 - aherorising (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
User avatar #469 to #468 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (09/22/2013) [-]
For?
#466 - anonymous (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for shit",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, immature, and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
User avatar #461 - potgardener (06/01/2013) [-]
youre pretty fucked in the head if beating a kid is a good idea, parents would need to hit their kids if they taught them what was right and wrong from the beginning
User avatar #462 to #461 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/01/2013) [-]
It's ironic how you talk about avoiding situations, when your very comment isn't needed considering I already explained, about five times now, that I do not mean you must 'abuse' your children in order to get good results. My comment, and all the comments afterwards, were about how when compassion and support fails you must turn to punishment and discipline, including simply smacking your kid upside the head

Perhaps you should read more and get better informed before jumping to opinions, yes?
#459 - bossdelainternet (05/11/2013) [-]
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest  threads i've seen this year.   
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...   
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest threads i've seen this year.
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
User avatar #460 to #459 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (05/11/2013) [-]
I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult

I choose the former

Thank you, good sir
#453 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
I just thought I'd let you know that I just did an awful thing and quoted your majestic deep words of death wisdom onto my facebook. I gave you credit, but as part of my shame for stealing I thought I'd tell you. That was honestly one of the best things I've ever read.

Which is also why I screencapped it. Don't worry I swear I'm not going to try to get to frontpage with it I just wanted to save it.
User avatar #454 to #453 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all, I am not concerned with thumbs in the least. If you would like to post it, by all means do so, if you'd like to take credit, do so as well; I care not for material value or fame, as long as comprehend and understand the message
#455 to #454 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
Oh man you just keep getting better:)    
   
But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
Oh man you just keep getting better:)

But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
#449 - captainspankmonkey (02/27/2012) [-]
Internet problems
That is why :P
User avatar #450 to #460 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (02/27/2012) [-]
ahhh, haha, sorry then :P
#447 - anonymous (09/26/2011) [-]
you're a lovely person
User avatar #448 to #458 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (09/26/2011) [-]
awe, thank you, kind stranger :3

that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D
#444 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
Im becoming level 28 soon
User avatar #445 to #454 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/22/2011) [-]
sooooooooooooooooon............
User avatar #446 to #455 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
very soooooooooooooooooooooon......
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