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#83 - Why should they? It was THEIR land, they have a very legitimat…  [+] (55 new replies) 08/02/2014 on Oy vey +2
#118 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
be upset with britain then, they took it from you before they gave it to the israelis.
User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm Canadian, the only thing taken from me is my maple syrup.

For the record, I AM upset with the U.N. I think they're a bunch of shitheads who only buddy up because they're all too cowardly to stand alone; this is proven by the fact that they don't do a single fucking thing unless nobody else seems to have a problem with it at the time, and then after a problem is realized they throw up their hands and say "Not our problem".
User avatar #84 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
.... you understand nothing about this conflict.
User avatar #85 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Great rebuttal, I can totally see you are much wiser, smarter, and informed about the subject than I am.

Seriously though, fuck off. I have absolutely nothing against jews (although Orthodox Judaism is like Nazism turned into a religion), but it's nearly a world-wide accepted fact that Israel attained the land that it has unlawfully, and has continued to do so over the decades. I would be pissed too if some asshole stepped into my house and said "Hey, bad things happened to my parents, so this house is mine now"
#119 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
No,it is not an accepted fact. Quite the contrary. Israel was established due to the world acknowledging a NEED for them to have a defensible country.

Now here's some history for your ass:
In the 6 day war, Israel was ruthlessly attacked from 3 areas, Gaza, Golan Heights, and the West Bank. They caught a serious asswooping, and israel took over the 3 mentioned areas.
Then, at the U.S. request, Israel GAVE it back under the promise that no more attacks would be made against them.
How'd that work out? Well, palestinians are about as good to their word today as they were back then, and they continue to keep begging for an asskicking.
#129 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it is. Palestine never agreed to the sanctions and conditions imposed upon them; they weren't even part of the U.N. Your house cannot be commandeered by the neighbourhood watch just because they feel like it would be nice for them; they have to ask your permission first, and if they don't get it, they don't come in. Simple.

Israel could be attacked a million times to one and it still wouldn't make a single difference to me. They. Are. Not. There. Legally. They do not belong there, have no right to be there, and nobody has an obligation to accept them there. Just as well, it doesn't matter what the fuck they give. If a criminal breaks into your house and says "Okay, I'll let you keep HALF of it if you don't call the cops", they aren't a GOOD person for letting you keep half because they have no RIGHT to the half in the first place. How fucking dense are you?
#133 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
What you don't seem to be grasping, is the fact that Palestine has NEVER existed. They didn't own the fucking land before it was Israel. Your argument is akin to someone bitching about Russia selling the U.S. Alaska...nobody gave a fuck to ask the Eskimo Indians.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Got any proof to that, or do you just expect me to take your word for it.
#137 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
I would suggest some light reading. Try "Any Goddamn History Book Ever" by A. Fucking Clue.
User avatar #139 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I see that you expect me to take your word for it; after-all, if it was that easy to find, you'd have no problem providing a link for it.

I stand by my statement. The land belonged to the Arabs long before it ever did to jews, and any jew there now is there illegally and should be evacuated.

Nice talking to you.
User avatar #161 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Posted early by accident:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire

Ottoman empire held that territory in 1914 at the start of WWI, they lost it to the British
User avatar #170 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Indeed! With the help of the Arabs, which is where this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence came in
User avatar #172 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Right, but a set of letters doesn't carry the same political weight as something that was actually signed into international law like the Balfour Dec was with the Ottoman Empire(which collapsed, invalidating it)

Sykes wanted to give Palestine to Belgium, not to the Arabs. I'll admit I'm not an expert on the Asia Minor Agreement though
User avatar #175 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Hmm...While you are correct, with all due respect, we are not talking about what carries more political weight, but the policies themselves. It doesn't matter if a letter from the president is written on the best paper in the world or on a piece of toilet paper, it's still a letter from the president and is just as important regardless of what it is written on, why it is written, or how it is written.

(It's okay, neither am I)

Still. You seem to have a better knowledge of this than myself. If you can prove, any way, even with Wikipedia, that the land was promised to the Israeli's FIRST, by a notable source (such as a person who is allowed to make such a call) and maintained by at least one party (that didn't dissolve it), I will believe you and acknowledge Palestine as an Israeli settlement.
User avatar #178 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Wait up, by Palestine do you mean Israel or the Gaza Strip/ the conquered areas? This is kind of key
User avatar #181 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Both, if you don't mind.
User avatar #186 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Okay, because it's important to break it down into two parts

Israel itself is, as I've been arguing, a legal state. They do own the territory under international law, although I can agree that from an ethnic historical standpoint they definitely shouldn't.

The territories they have captured in the 6 Days War and all the other conflicts are not theirs, they are occupying it against international law as it was owned by other Arab states. It should be noted that they have tried giving the territories back through treaties in the exchange for the surrounding states not invading them and that this was rejected, but they are occupying it illegally
User avatar #191 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Hmmm, very well. I trust you; Israel has a right to exist, although I maintain it might not necessarily be right where it is (from an ethnic standpoint, as you said).

If the Arabs and Israelis can come to a peaceful coexistence between mutually shared lands, that would be amazing; but frankly, Israel hasn't exactly been doing itself favours in earning trust from, well, anyone. Considering the crimes of the past, the near constant U.N. violations/territory grabs, and the guilt-tripping of many nations around the world, I can completely understand why some people stand so firmly against Israel
User avatar #196 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
It's nice to have a discussion about this without it resorting to tears, anger, and enough cursing to make a sailor feel sick. Thanks for that.

I've always been a bit iffy on the Israel topic because of the legal argument vs "who actually was living there" argument, but yeah it's important to see both sides.

As far as the Arab-Israeli coexistence goes, both sides are at fault. In recent years Israel has been more of the aggressor but it's important to remember that they've had some nasty invasions thrown upon them in their short existence as a nation-state.

Like the war on the first day of their existence as a state, when they were invaded from all sides:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

Or when the Arab States attacked Israel on their holiest day, when they were all fasting:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

Then again, Israel did initiate the Six Day War. Claims that Egypt was ready to mount an attack doesn't change who shot first.
User avatar #159 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm not 100% to either side on this conflict, but he's right in the sense that while it was ethnically Arabic, as you are arguing, Palestine has never existed as a fully autonomous, politically independent nation state.

It was the Mandate of Palestine under the British Monarchy and before that it was under the Turks. Prior, the Ottoman Empire. As an Arabic state it has never actually existed, unless you count its very brief two-three year stint as a protectorate of the United Kingdom in the late 1940s.

The British handed over what was legally British territory to the Jews. That became Israel, the Gaza strip, and the rest of the territories in the area.

Some sources:
avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp#art22

"Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of big brother administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory."

Palestine was still technically a Mandatory/protectorate when it was handed over. British territory, not Arab territory.

I hope you don't mind Wikipedia, but on a topic this disputed it tends to be a reliable source because of cross checking:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

"The Jewish Legion, a group primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine in 1917"
User avatar #169 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Unfortunately sir, you are wrong. Not about the land not being politically recognized, but about the split. Basically, to cut it all down; the land was promised to the Arabs in independence after they rebelled against the Ottomans, and then later it was promised to the Jews (although it was promised to the Arabs first). This proves nothing other than that Britain took any advantage it could and didn't know how to balance its books.

I have already posted links in other comments for you to see; although I would be happy to post them in a reply if you wanted easier access.

Wikipedia is fine, I use it myself; thank you. I'll be able to use the information in further debate.

At the end of the day, I would still say it should go to the person it was first promised to. (Thank you, though! I do appreciate the links. I'm always interested in political affairs)
User avatar #174 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm not too sure about "the first person it was promised to" idea due to the nature of international politics at the time. You have to remember this was before the UN or the LoN so int. relations were a fuckton shadier and vaguer back then. When they forked over the land to Israel in the 1940s there was already an established institute that defines and defends international law(whether its worth anything at all is an entirely different discussion), in the 1910s/20s there most certainly wasnt.
#145 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
Just on the off chance you're serious, and care to educate yourself. Here's a link to some reading material, a map of the world's territories circa 1914. Enjoy.
www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/British_Mandate_of_Palestine.html
User avatar #149 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Ah yes, perfect example of how Britain promised the land to multiple people, as we already discussed.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence
And here's the document where they promised it to the Arabs!

Oh, would you look at that, they promised it to the Arabs first. How quaint.

As said, nice talking to you. I'm glad I had the chance to educate you.
#153 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
So you're saying Hamas owns it due to the internation law of no takesies backsies? lol
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So you're saying Israel owns it due to the international law of "But mom said-"? lol

Seriously though, the Arabs did own it, were oppressed, planned a revolt, got aid, the allies took control, and then promised it to the Arabs. Many more years down the line, it was promised to Israel.

Even IF you absolutely agree that nobody but Britain owned the land at the time, it was still promised to the Arabs first. Even after all is said and done and the dust settles, any rational person on the planet, laws, rights, circumstances, "He said-She said" aside, would say that "Hey man, he had it first".

This type of mindset you got going on is the exact reason people call you a kike piece of shit.
#182 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
That's the first time I've ever been called a kike...piece of shit once or twice...but for kike its a first time.

And well it sounds like Palestine should spend some of their money suing Britain huh? Maybe not rocket their vastly superior neighbors?

User avatar #185 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Congratulations. And perhaps so.
#189 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
Just to be clear, I'm not anti Palestine. I"m anti Hamas. I like the 2 state solution, but i think Hamas is a single minded organization and until they are removed from power the Palestinian people will suffer, whether it be at the hands of hamas or hamas' enemies.
#198 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
I do agree that a peaceful coexistence would be the best solution, but I don't think it is likely to ever come about. I personally believe that is a battle that will be continually fought til there aren't any humans left to fight it.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nor am I anti-Israel, I'm anti-Zionist. I completely agree (at least now) that Israel has a right to exist, just perhaps not necessarily where it is. If a peaceful coexistence could be maintained between both countries and cultures, it would be wonderful; but to do that requires communication and the swallowing of pride, which neither side is doing.
User avatar #166 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Also, although it doesn't really do much the land was actually promised to the Jews first. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

It was invalidated, like the one to the Arabs was, but it was done first
User avatar #164 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Legally, they own it.

You can argue that from a cultural/ethnic history the Arabs deserve it and own it, but as far as political history goes it is indeed Jewish land, at least the territory they were originally given
User avatar #173 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nonsense, The Balfour Declaration couldn't have been done first; as it was finalized in 1917 while the Arab agreement was finalized in 1915-16

In any case, I really don't have any type of hatred toward jews (although I DO hate Zionists, hence my racist remark), I just honestly believe that it should, indeed, be Arab land. If other countries believe a home should be made for jews, they can make a home for them in their own countries rather than forcing them upon another who was not even IN the agreement to begin with. By Privity Law, no contract can be made regarding a first party offering a second party anything from a third without the thirds knowledge or consent.
User avatar #177 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Also, Privity Law did not, at the time, apply to international law
User avatar #176 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Aye, but a promise to have a proposed sphere of influence and the actual handover of land are two entirely different political things. One is a promise, the other is an actual handover. The promise of land does not mean you own it
User avatar #194 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I can't reply to the other comment, so I must reply to this one.

It's okay, it's a long video, I don't expect you to devote much time to this debate; as it won't solve anything. You seem like a very smart and reasonable person, which is exactly why I trust what you say. Again, if that's the case, Israel totally has a right to exist, but they are not 'right' in what they are doing, nor is Britain right in what it did on moral grounds.
User avatar #199 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
thanks for the gr8 deb8 m8, i r8 8/8, now i go masturb8.

Nice talking to you
User avatar #180 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Perhaps that is true, but you can't exactly hand over something to someone who is already using it. The 'hand-over' in question was just sporting immigration into proposed Israeli territories, which, at the time, were already occupied by Arabs.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZY8m0cm1oY (it's a very long and tedious video, but indeed, the Arabs actually had control over it first)
User avatar #190 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
I apologize for not being able to respond to the video, I'll fav your comment and PM you once I've watched it fully. Know that what I'm writing here is in ignorance of what that video contains, so please don't take me for an idiot.

As far as handing over goes; unfortunately, legally you can. I'm not saying that its right or that Israel deserves the land it has, I'm just trying to argue that as far as international law goes they do own their territory.

To put it in a more localized perspective, it was as if the an Arab was squatting in a British house. The Brit sells the land to a Jew and kicks the squatter out. It's a crude analogy, but its how it happened under int. law. Whether that law is just or right is another argument

User avatar #96 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
It obtained the land that it has through the UN. How the fuck is that unlawful... furthermore how the fuck does someone lawfully obtain an entire country? Oh that's right they go to war don't they. Much better way of obtaining land bro. Also the land was theirs to begin with ya fuck. They merely took back what was there's. Wait let me rephrase that, were given back their land.

As an american I guess it would be similar to native Americans reclaiming a section of the US as their own. However they didn't claim it the UN decided it should be given to them.

Palestine is a filth ridden country whitest Israeli has boomed into a dominating force despite it's size. If Israel owned Palestine it would be a much better country.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
A first party cannot take land from a second party and give it to a third. The Palestinians rejected all borders and divisions suggested by the UN, and the UN went through with it anyways.

Indeed, you don't unless you go to war; but my objective isn't avoiding war, it's giving credit where credit is due, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.

No it wasn't. They had a group of people there, yes; and then they left. You don't get to call something yours and then completely evacuate it, and you especially aren't obligated to have it back just because "Hey, my book says I can".

The UN doesn't get to decide if your house should go to one asshole or another. It's your house, you lived there, you built it, nobody has any right to take it from you, ESPECIALLY people who aren't even involved in the situation.

And if literally anyone else owned all of Africa, it too would be much better; but guess what, shit doesn't work like that. You don't get to call something yours just because you think you deserve it or that other people aren't using it right.
#120 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
ProTip: The U.N. did not own the land prior to WWII, Britian ruled over it as a territory, after WWII all the major nations decided keeping territories was fuck all expensive and hard to defend so they gave them away for the most part. Britain, at the U.N.'s suggestion gave Israel the land they own now.
User avatar #134 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
www.historylearningsite.co.uk/palestine_1918_to_1948.htm

Britian promised the land to multiple people because it didn't know how to balance its books; all in all, the land should go to the people who maintained it, which were the Arabs.
#113 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
check out laws in the US pertaining the "imminent domain" it allows the US to say "oh we need this land, here's some money, it's all ours now" and take it regardless of whether you want to sell it or not. if a large enough organization decides you don't get to keep something then you don't get to keep it and anyone who outright defies the UN might as well declare war on all its members.
User avatar #115 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
1. U.S. is not world authority
2. Neither is the U.N.
3. Not every country is PART of the U.N.
4. Nobody ever PAID Palestine

So, to reiterate, it would be like a bunch of guys breaking into your house and saying "Hey, King of Spain wants us to have this house, so its ours now. Get out". I don't know about you, but I would be happy to go to war with any king on the planet if they thought they could do that with MY land.
#117 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
it's what i like to call bigger gun diplomacy, if i shoot you in the leg, tell you to give me your car and point the gun at your head, are you really not gunna give the car over? you're right not every country is a member of the UN but survival in a world where all UN members refuse to deal with you at best and at worst simply invade and take over at worst, are you really gunna argue? very few countries in this world are self-sufficient enough to exist independent of most of the world.
User avatar #105 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
Who says that? I want proof. What legal instrument states that this can not be done.

No it doesn't. Also just so you know if Israel decides to go to war. It might very well be a genocide of the Palestinian people.

Yes they do, the UN is there for the sole reason of trying to keep peace. So if they decide that giving your house away will do that, then they will.

Why doesn't it? explain it to me? why waste precious resources on people who will not use it efficiently? If there is a problem why not fucking fix it? those who cannot use what is given to them should have the item reclaimed.

Lets say I agree with you , it is the Palestinians land. they owned it , and ran it into the ground. Obliterating what they were granted. A fucking wasteland is what it would be.
So why should they own any land at all? if a kid cant keep their dog alive , would you let him continue to raise more dogs?
User avatar #111 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privity_in_English_law
Certainly, there it is.

www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine
Oh, look at that, you're still wrong. And here, I even gave you the liberty of choosing the links for yourself to remove my bias. Yes it could, but saying "We could just kill you if we wanted to" and not doing it doesn't make you 'right' or 'good', it just means you have opportunity.

Newsflash, not every country is in the UN or even wants to be. A neighbourhood watch cannot come inside your house and use it as a headquarters without your consent, no matter how much they would like to.

Why? Because if it worked like that, I could take your money because I feel like you waste it. I could take your car because I feel like it chews too much gas. I could take your house because I feel like it has one too many playrooms. I could kill you because I feel like you waste the oxygen around you, THAT'S why it doesn't work like that, you fucking moron.

Maybe, maybe not, but if they obliterated it, it would still be their land. You are not obligated to something just because someone else doesn't use it the way you want them to, and it doesn't work like that because (as we already pointed out) your life would be forfeit because I said it was. If a kid can't keep their dog alive in your country, animal rights can see to it that they don't get any more; if a kid can't keep their dog alive in another country, your animal rights can't do shit.
User avatar #116 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
That's English law it has no regards in the UN.

never said it did.

I'm aware however , they should be. Why would any country not wan't to try and keep the peace?

That's not what I'm talking about you fucking idiot. Im talking about water/food/land. Resources ya fuck. why waste those things on people who will not use them efficiently? If you are going to take food spit on it throw it on the ground , and not eat it. Why should you be aloud to have food?

The kid doesn't switch countries at any point. the Kid is the country the dog is the land.

User avatar #121 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/privity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privity_of_contract
www.lawteacher.net/contract-law/essays/discuss-criticisms-of-the-doctrine-of-privity-of-contract-contract-law-essay.php

Oh look at that, privity counts in nearly every first world country and thus extends to all the countries it trades with. Fancy that.

Good, because it's your exact attitude that makes people anti-semitic.

Ooooooooh, now I see. So taking someones land, food, water, supplies, ect. is fine; but gods forbid, don't take your car. I'm really glad we edged out this line of how you prioritize yourself over others. Why? Because they're not YOUR resources, they're theirs. If someone chops down a tree, you can't take it from them because you decide you can use it better; you chop down your own tree. Because if you bought or attained the food legally, it's yours; you can do with it as you like, even waste it (and you're completely missing the point that there's no guarantee that they will. You just WANT to think they will).

Good for them, my point still stands. One country cannot steal another's resources because they think they will use it better; you get it legally, or not a tall. Palestine wasn't obtained legally, jews have NO right to be there.
#140 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
at the end of the day the only reason human rights exist is because governments find it convenient. no law in the universe can stop someone from killing you and taking what's yours, it's the foundation of imperialism, an idea that only ended because most people agreed to end it. say what you will but at the end of the day people are complete shit to each other law or no and the only thing protecting you are the people with the big guns saying "nah i don't want you doing that to people" laws are a matter of convenience to the nations that make them and at least historically enforced with the phrase "my gun is bigger than yours, wanna see?" i'm not saying that modern times might consider it illegal or not, i'm saying that if you don't play by the rules of the guys with the biggest stick then someone will get hit.
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
And all that is very true; yet I'm still absolutely sure you have a problem with how North Korea treats its citizens.

We are not the universe, we are not basic beasts, we are men, and we have gotten to this position through teamwork, trust, and cooperation beyond our basic instincts. It's BECAUSE of concepts like honour, loyalty, integrity, that we have working civilizations and classes today. It's this very reason why you don't have to walk outside afraid that you will get shot.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather give my fellow man the benefit of the doubt and say we're better than our most crude instincts.
User avatar #154 - Kanoah (08/02/2014) [-]
#152 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
many of the most defining characteristics of modern society comes from the fact that modern rules only apply when both sides are honorable enough to stick with them and often times history is biased towards the victors who focus on enemy atrocities and downplay their own, North Korea is a prime example of downplaying your own heinous acts by blowing enemy violations far out of proportion. at the end of the day you walk outside without fearing being shot because there are people with guns who say that's your right and fighting those who disagree, in addition what is considered right or lawful is usually defined by either the society it pertains to or the ruler of that area. governments are merely people who make decisions regarding the way things are run then back it up with military force if necessary.
#80 - I am defending Hamas. I don't agree with extremists, but it wa…  [+] (19 new replies) 08/02/2014 on Oy vey +1
#179 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
To be fair, it was the jews land waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was Palestine's.

Also how the fuck can you defend hamas. Thats like the most ass backwards thing Ive heard in years. They preach the utter destruction of jews and israel and are basically the reason this whole thing is going on. There are plenty of muslims who live peacefully in israel and back in the pre-israel period there were jews who lived peacefully in palestine. Its the extremists on either side that are the problem, and I assure ever member of hamas is an extremist. Backing hamas is backing the problem
User avatar #184 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
How the hell do you figure? Biblical times? Perhaps so, but then they evacuated out of the entire area. You don't own a ball at a park today just because you played with it yesterday. If you leave it, it's fair game (especially over the course of thousands of years).

Good for them, I support that decision, as Israel has no right to be there in the first place. If they can live peacefully on mutually agreed settlements, good for them. If not, Palestinians owned it first.
User avatar #87 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes the Palestinian want to be left alone, they were doing find before Hamas came and set everything on fire
User avatar #89 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Funny. If I claimed all of Israel should be damned because of the actions of a few extremists, you would be screaming about how unreasonable that would be.
User avatar #90 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
only took 19 to kill 3000 americans...
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you referring to 9/11? Ya, they did. Guess what, that's STILL the actions of a few extremists, and you're not going to be able to use that as leverage to earn my support.
User avatar #94 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Exacly, it was a few extremist.

problem is, there is not only 50 extremist in this world, i hope you know that
User avatar #98 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, both Israel and Palestine have extremists, but that doesn't make the very existence of Israel as a whole unlawful
#110 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it does. And hopefully finally jews will be thrown out from Palestine.
User avatar #114 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
We can always hope.
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User avatar #86 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, cause you think Jews stole these land? Ha

They grew their own fortune, bought land that were too dry to harvest and infected with mosquitoes who were know to bring malaria. They fucking build everything.
the Jews who stole the land of the poor Palestinian is Hamas propaganda.

Yes i defend the side i am most familiar with, just like you do. don't worry, i can make some research too.

"The people who have legitimate reason to be angry" are you serious??
User avatar #88 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, you think they didn't? Ha.
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine

And unlike you, I actually have proof.

Israel didn't buy anything. One of the links in the google states it pretty clearly: "In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine."

A first party cannot take land from a second party and legally sell it to a third. It doesn't work that way.

I don't. I'm Canadian, I am nowhere near this conflict, nor does it affect me; I study it because I want to, and I take the side I see as most just.

I am serious; you're just blinded by bias.
User avatar #92 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
" i fond i alink on google that says i'm right, haha you are blinded by bias!"

seriously man...

i am canadian from palestinian origine, why would i defend israel?
User avatar #95 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
"I only listen to evidence that tells me I'm right".

Seriously man...

I have no idea; that's completely your business.
User avatar #97 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
that's... that's exacly what you're doing you know?
User avatar #102 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
No. You have provided literally no evidence beyond your own word, while I have provided multiple pages. I even posted the entire google search so YOU could pick out the pages you wanted to read, in order to avoid any bias.
#183 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
God damn you both are fucking retarded. This is like the singular least intelligent argument on this subject I have ever read
User avatar #187 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So stop reading it.
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User avatar #77 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
you talk like you are defending Hamas. you point the fact that Jewish are assholes and stop there. Last time i checked, it wasn't the Jews who behead, excise and other barbarian shit like that. I just don't understand. I mean, i hear people complaining about Islamic radicalism, but they almost fucking support them...

What is hard is to find which source is good, and which one isn't. I know people who live there, both jewish and palestinian. don't worry they know more than we know
User avatar #80 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I am defending Hamas. I don't agree with extremists, but it was Palestinian land LONG before it was ever Israeli land; I'd rather side with the extremists who cry "These people are invading my home and I want them out" than the extremists who cry "This is my home because I say it is, I want these people out". Indeed, radical Muslims can be extremely barbaric, and so can radical jews; again, I'd rather side with the people who have a legitimate reason to be angry.

And that's why you do your own research rather than just supporting the side you are most familiar with. I have done my research, I know Muslim extremists have violated laws and treaties and done awful, horrible things; but Jew CIVILIANS have done the exact same shit and have acted just as barbaric. Israel wants Palestinian land, Palestine just wants to be left alone.
#179 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
To be fair, it was the jews land waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was Palestine's.

Also how the fuck can you defend hamas. Thats like the most ass backwards thing Ive heard in years. They preach the utter destruction of jews and israel and are basically the reason this whole thing is going on. There are plenty of muslims who live peacefully in israel and back in the pre-israel period there were jews who lived peacefully in palestine. Its the extremists on either side that are the problem, and I assure ever member of hamas is an extremist. Backing hamas is backing the problem
User avatar #184 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
How the hell do you figure? Biblical times? Perhaps so, but then they evacuated out of the entire area. You don't own a ball at a park today just because you played with it yesterday. If you leave it, it's fair game (especially over the course of thousands of years).

Good for them, I support that decision, as Israel has no right to be there in the first place. If they can live peacefully on mutually agreed settlements, good for them. If not, Palestinians owned it first.
User avatar #87 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes the Palestinian want to be left alone, they were doing find before Hamas came and set everything on fire
User avatar #89 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Funny. If I claimed all of Israel should be damned because of the actions of a few extremists, you would be screaming about how unreasonable that would be.
User avatar #90 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
only took 19 to kill 3000 americans...
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you referring to 9/11? Ya, they did. Guess what, that's STILL the actions of a few extremists, and you're not going to be able to use that as leverage to earn my support.
User avatar #94 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Exacly, it was a few extremist.

problem is, there is not only 50 extremist in this world, i hope you know that
User avatar #98 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, both Israel and Palestine have extremists, but that doesn't make the very existence of Israel as a whole unlawful
#110 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it does. And hopefully finally jews will be thrown out from Palestine.
User avatar #114 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
We can always hope.
#100 - darknak has deleted their comment.
User avatar #86 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, cause you think Jews stole these land? Ha

They grew their own fortune, bought land that were too dry to harvest and infected with mosquitoes who were know to bring malaria. They fucking build everything.
the Jews who stole the land of the poor Palestinian is Hamas propaganda.

Yes i defend the side i am most familiar with, just like you do. don't worry, i can make some research too.

"The people who have legitimate reason to be angry" are you serious??
User avatar #88 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, you think they didn't? Ha.
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine

And unlike you, I actually have proof.

Israel didn't buy anything. One of the links in the google states it pretty clearly: "In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine."

A first party cannot take land from a second party and legally sell it to a third. It doesn't work that way.

I don't. I'm Canadian, I am nowhere near this conflict, nor does it affect me; I study it because I want to, and I take the side I see as most just.

I am serious; you're just blinded by bias.
User avatar #92 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
" i fond i alink on google that says i'm right, haha you are blinded by bias!"

seriously man...

i am canadian from palestinian origine, why would i defend israel?
User avatar #95 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
"I only listen to evidence that tells me I'm right".

Seriously man...

I have no idea; that's completely your business.
User avatar #97 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
that's... that's exacly what you're doing you know?
User avatar #102 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
No. You have provided literally no evidence beyond your own word, while I have provided multiple pages. I even posted the entire google search so YOU could pick out the pages you wanted to read, in order to avoid any bias.
#183 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
God damn you both are fucking retarded. This is like the singular least intelligent argument on this subject I have ever read
User avatar #187 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So stop reading it.
#71 - Video wasn't fake; it's everywhere, and the JIDF is constantly…  [+] (23 new replies) 08/02/2014 on Oy vey +1
User avatar #73 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Because you think the "news" show everything that happens on both side? lel.

Yes indeed some jew like the ortodox can be assholes. but you are only mentioning the jews here, you forget the other side...
User avatar #76 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh fuck off. We have the internet and plenty of different sources; there is no excuse for anyone to be ignorant in this day and age.

What the hell are you talking about?
User avatar #77 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
you talk like you are defending Hamas. you point the fact that Jewish are assholes and stop there. Last time i checked, it wasn't the Jews who behead, excise and other barbarian shit like that. I just don't understand. I mean, i hear people complaining about Islamic radicalism, but they almost fucking support them...

What is hard is to find which source is good, and which one isn't. I know people who live there, both jewish and palestinian. don't worry they know more than we know
User avatar #80 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I am defending Hamas. I don't agree with extremists, but it was Palestinian land LONG before it was ever Israeli land; I'd rather side with the extremists who cry "These people are invading my home and I want them out" than the extremists who cry "This is my home because I say it is, I want these people out". Indeed, radical Muslims can be extremely barbaric, and so can radical jews; again, I'd rather side with the people who have a legitimate reason to be angry.

And that's why you do your own research rather than just supporting the side you are most familiar with. I have done my research, I know Muslim extremists have violated laws and treaties and done awful, horrible things; but Jew CIVILIANS have done the exact same shit and have acted just as barbaric. Israel wants Palestinian land, Palestine just wants to be left alone.
#179 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
To be fair, it was the jews land waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was Palestine's.

Also how the fuck can you defend hamas. Thats like the most ass backwards thing Ive heard in years. They preach the utter destruction of jews and israel and are basically the reason this whole thing is going on. There are plenty of muslims who live peacefully in israel and back in the pre-israel period there were jews who lived peacefully in palestine. Its the extremists on either side that are the problem, and I assure ever member of hamas is an extremist. Backing hamas is backing the problem
User avatar #184 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
How the hell do you figure? Biblical times? Perhaps so, but then they evacuated out of the entire area. You don't own a ball at a park today just because you played with it yesterday. If you leave it, it's fair game (especially over the course of thousands of years).

Good for them, I support that decision, as Israel has no right to be there in the first place. If they can live peacefully on mutually agreed settlements, good for them. If not, Palestinians owned it first.
User avatar #87 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes the Palestinian want to be left alone, they were doing find before Hamas came and set everything on fire
User avatar #89 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Funny. If I claimed all of Israel should be damned because of the actions of a few extremists, you would be screaming about how unreasonable that would be.
User avatar #90 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
only took 19 to kill 3000 americans...
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you referring to 9/11? Ya, they did. Guess what, that's STILL the actions of a few extremists, and you're not going to be able to use that as leverage to earn my support.
User avatar #94 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Exacly, it was a few extremist.

problem is, there is not only 50 extremist in this world, i hope you know that
User avatar #98 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, both Israel and Palestine have extremists, but that doesn't make the very existence of Israel as a whole unlawful
#110 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it does. And hopefully finally jews will be thrown out from Palestine.
User avatar #114 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
We can always hope.
#100 - darknak has deleted their comment.
User avatar #86 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, cause you think Jews stole these land? Ha

They grew their own fortune, bought land that were too dry to harvest and infected with mosquitoes who were know to bring malaria. They fucking build everything.
the Jews who stole the land of the poor Palestinian is Hamas propaganda.

Yes i defend the side i am most familiar with, just like you do. don't worry, i can make some research too.

"The people who have legitimate reason to be angry" are you serious??
User avatar #88 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, you think they didn't? Ha.
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine

And unlike you, I actually have proof.

Israel didn't buy anything. One of the links in the google states it pretty clearly: "In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine."

A first party cannot take land from a second party and legally sell it to a third. It doesn't work that way.

I don't. I'm Canadian, I am nowhere near this conflict, nor does it affect me; I study it because I want to, and I take the side I see as most just.

I am serious; you're just blinded by bias.
User avatar #92 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
" i fond i alink on google that says i'm right, haha you are blinded by bias!"

seriously man...

i am canadian from palestinian origine, why would i defend israel?
User avatar #95 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
"I only listen to evidence that tells me I'm right".

Seriously man...

I have no idea; that's completely your business.
User avatar #97 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
that's... that's exacly what you're doing you know?
User avatar #102 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
No. You have provided literally no evidence beyond your own word, while I have provided multiple pages. I even posted the entire google search so YOU could pick out the pages you wanted to read, in order to avoid any bias.
#183 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
God damn you both are fucking retarded. This is like the singular least intelligent argument on this subject I have ever read
User avatar #187 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So stop reading it.
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User avatar #254 - choclategum (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you kidding me? I haven't lost shit and I find it funny that the person I the argument determines who lost or not a day I'll show you exactly where you said that.

You're acting like it's bad to hate tumblr when it's not. you didn't say that side of tumblr or that particular part of tumblr. You just said tumblr, so what else is someone supposed to think.

Also what you have said has not discredited ANYTHING of what I said and in fact it proves it. You write your blatant racism, (That some people will take seriously) off as a joke, but if tumblr says anything racist then it's automatically worst, whether or not they're joking And you just used THE MOST RACIST GROUPS who are known for killing as an example of something good against a website of 13-30 year olds who will talk shit but NEVER commit the hate crimes these groups have done. And yet you act like tumblr is worse.
User avatar #255 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nice job not including the whole sentence. "YOU'RE acting like it's bad to hate Tumblr when it's not; they are unreasonable, they are bigoted, they are prejudiced, and if they had their way, many on that side probably would kill or harm."

It's the internet; everything is a joke until proven otherwise (as tones cannot be conveyed over text) and jokes in person can easily be differentiated from serious statements. If you are unable to take a joke, even a grim or heavy-hearted one, you probably shouldn't be in any worthwhile conversation.

It's worse because saying "of course he steals, he's black" in a lighthearted manner is far better than saying "Kill all white people. Seriously" in a serious manner. I didn't say Tumblr is worse than the Klansmen or Nazis, I said they're worse than Funnyjunk. Of course the two former groups are worse, but at least they can be reasoned with; that side of Tumblr cannot be (not in any way I've seen, anyways); in the long-term, that IS worse, because it means if they ever did get together and go through with these plans, they would never stop.
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User avatar #67 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
two (maybe morfe) possibilities

1)some jews are jerk, like in every nation

2) fake video
User avatar #71 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Video wasn't fake; it's everywhere, and the JIDF is constantly trying to get it removed at every possible section.

Seriously though, Orthodox jews are the most racist, bigoted, and prejudiced people I have ever met in my life. Their entire religion is based around how they are better than everyone else, and anyone who is not jewish is like an animal and should only exist to serve them. Nearly every single Arab living in Israel is horribly oppressed and abused daily, and I can not find a single article by ANY foreigner who actually says Israel is a good place to live even if you're not jewish.

Not only that, but nearly the entirety of Israels foreign political policy is reminding people about the Holocaust, and how that justifies every human rights violation, every treaty violation, and and every land violation they have gone through.

The ONLY people who actually support Israel in this whole mess are either jews or people who don't watch the news
User avatar #73 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Because you think the "news" show everything that happens on both side? lel.

Yes indeed some jew like the ortodox can be assholes. but you are only mentioning the jews here, you forget the other side...
User avatar #76 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh fuck off. We have the internet and plenty of different sources; there is no excuse for anyone to be ignorant in this day and age.

What the hell are you talking about?
User avatar #77 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
you talk like you are defending Hamas. you point the fact that Jewish are assholes and stop there. Last time i checked, it wasn't the Jews who behead, excise and other barbarian shit like that. I just don't understand. I mean, i hear people complaining about Islamic radicalism, but they almost fucking support them...

What is hard is to find which source is good, and which one isn't. I know people who live there, both jewish and palestinian. don't worry they know more than we know
User avatar #80 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I am defending Hamas. I don't agree with extremists, but it was Palestinian land LONG before it was ever Israeli land; I'd rather side with the extremists who cry "These people are invading my home and I want them out" than the extremists who cry "This is my home because I say it is, I want these people out". Indeed, radical Muslims can be extremely barbaric, and so can radical jews; again, I'd rather side with the people who have a legitimate reason to be angry.

And that's why you do your own research rather than just supporting the side you are most familiar with. I have done my research, I know Muslim extremists have violated laws and treaties and done awful, horrible things; but Jew CIVILIANS have done the exact same shit and have acted just as barbaric. Israel wants Palestinian land, Palestine just wants to be left alone.
#179 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
To be fair, it was the jews land waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was Palestine's.

Also how the fuck can you defend hamas. Thats like the most ass backwards thing Ive heard in years. They preach the utter destruction of jews and israel and are basically the reason this whole thing is going on. There are plenty of muslims who live peacefully in israel and back in the pre-israel period there were jews who lived peacefully in palestine. Its the extremists on either side that are the problem, and I assure ever member of hamas is an extremist. Backing hamas is backing the problem
User avatar #184 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
How the hell do you figure? Biblical times? Perhaps so, but then they evacuated out of the entire area. You don't own a ball at a park today just because you played with it yesterday. If you leave it, it's fair game (especially over the course of thousands of years).

Good for them, I support that decision, as Israel has no right to be there in the first place. If they can live peacefully on mutually agreed settlements, good for them. If not, Palestinians owned it first.
User avatar #87 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes the Palestinian want to be left alone, they were doing find before Hamas came and set everything on fire
User avatar #89 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Funny. If I claimed all of Israel should be damned because of the actions of a few extremists, you would be screaming about how unreasonable that would be.
User avatar #90 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
only took 19 to kill 3000 americans...
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you referring to 9/11? Ya, they did. Guess what, that's STILL the actions of a few extremists, and you're not going to be able to use that as leverage to earn my support.
User avatar #94 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Exacly, it was a few extremist.

problem is, there is not only 50 extremist in this world, i hope you know that
User avatar #98 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, both Israel and Palestine have extremists, but that doesn't make the very existence of Israel as a whole unlawful
#110 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it does. And hopefully finally jews will be thrown out from Palestine.
User avatar #114 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
We can always hope.
#100 - darknak has deleted their comment.
User avatar #86 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, cause you think Jews stole these land? Ha

They grew their own fortune, bought land that were too dry to harvest and infected with mosquitoes who were know to bring malaria. They fucking build everything.
the Jews who stole the land of the poor Palestinian is Hamas propaganda.

Yes i defend the side i am most familiar with, just like you do. don't worry, i can make some research too.

"The people who have legitimate reason to be angry" are you serious??
User avatar #88 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, you think they didn't? Ha.
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine

And unlike you, I actually have proof.

Israel didn't buy anything. One of the links in the google states it pretty clearly: "In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine."

A first party cannot take land from a second party and legally sell it to a third. It doesn't work that way.

I don't. I'm Canadian, I am nowhere near this conflict, nor does it affect me; I study it because I want to, and I take the side I see as most just.

I am serious; you're just blinded by bias.
User avatar #92 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
" i fond i alink on google that says i'm right, haha you are blinded by bias!"

seriously man...

i am canadian from palestinian origine, why would i defend israel?
User avatar #95 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
"I only listen to evidence that tells me I'm right".

Seriously man...

I have no idea; that's completely your business.
User avatar #97 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
that's... that's exacly what you're doing you know?
User avatar #102 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
No. You have provided literally no evidence beyond your own word, while I have provided multiple pages. I even posted the entire google search so YOU could pick out the pages you wanted to read, in order to avoid any bias.
#183 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
God damn you both are fucking retarded. This is like the singular least intelligent argument on this subject I have ever read
User avatar #187 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So stop reading it.
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User avatar #108 - kinggucciswagman (08/02/2014) [-]
But the thing is As far as I know In Palestine, you have no future. I mean.. You have to become a terrorist if you want to actually do something.
User avatar #112 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
But that's the life they choose for themselves. As much as it may suck, nobody else EVER has a right to come in and decide how you should live your life (unless of course you become a determent to society, in which case society reacts; as countries always have against terrorist attacks).

I'm sorry, sir. I know it sucks and it seems odd, but I would rather live in any squalor I wanted than live in a paradise because I was forced to.
User avatar #81 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
I see you're point, but at the same time Palestinians have never given them a reason not too.
User avatar #83 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Why should they? It was THEIR land, they have a very legitimate reason to be upset.

To put it in perspective: Israel wants more Palestinian land. Palestine just wants to be left alone.
#118 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
be upset with britain then, they took it from you before they gave it to the israelis.
User avatar #123 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm Canadian, the only thing taken from me is my maple syrup.

For the record, I AM upset with the U.N. I think they're a bunch of shitheads who only buddy up because they're all too cowardly to stand alone; this is proven by the fact that they don't do a single fucking thing unless nobody else seems to have a problem with it at the time, and then after a problem is realized they throw up their hands and say "Not our problem".
User avatar #84 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
.... you understand nothing about this conflict.
User avatar #85 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Great rebuttal, I can totally see you are much wiser, smarter, and informed about the subject than I am.

Seriously though, fuck off. I have absolutely nothing against jews (although Orthodox Judaism is like Nazism turned into a religion), but it's nearly a world-wide accepted fact that Israel attained the land that it has unlawfully, and has continued to do so over the decades. I would be pissed too if some asshole stepped into my house and said "Hey, bad things happened to my parents, so this house is mine now"
#119 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
No,it is not an accepted fact. Quite the contrary. Israel was established due to the world acknowledging a NEED for them to have a defensible country.

Now here's some history for your ass:
In the 6 day war, Israel was ruthlessly attacked from 3 areas, Gaza, Golan Heights, and the West Bank. They caught a serious asswooping, and israel took over the 3 mentioned areas.
Then, at the U.S. request, Israel GAVE it back under the promise that no more attacks would be made against them.
How'd that work out? Well, palestinians are about as good to their word today as they were back then, and they continue to keep begging for an asskicking.
#129 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it is. Palestine never agreed to the sanctions and conditions imposed upon them; they weren't even part of the U.N. Your house cannot be commandeered by the neighbourhood watch just because they feel like it would be nice for them; they have to ask your permission first, and if they don't get it, they don't come in. Simple.

Israel could be attacked a million times to one and it still wouldn't make a single difference to me. They. Are. Not. There. Legally. They do not belong there, have no right to be there, and nobody has an obligation to accept them there. Just as well, it doesn't matter what the fuck they give. If a criminal breaks into your house and says "Okay, I'll let you keep HALF of it if you don't call the cops", they aren't a GOOD person for letting you keep half because they have no RIGHT to the half in the first place. How fucking dense are you?
#133 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
What you don't seem to be grasping, is the fact that Palestine has NEVER existed. They didn't own the fucking land before it was Israel. Your argument is akin to someone bitching about Russia selling the U.S. Alaska...nobody gave a fuck to ask the Eskimo Indians.
User avatar #136 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Got any proof to that, or do you just expect me to take your word for it.
#137 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
I would suggest some light reading. Try "Any Goddamn History Book Ever" by A. Fucking Clue.
User avatar #139 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I see that you expect me to take your word for it; after-all, if it was that easy to find, you'd have no problem providing a link for it.

I stand by my statement. The land belonged to the Arabs long before it ever did to jews, and any jew there now is there illegally and should be evacuated.

Nice talking to you.
User avatar #161 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Posted early by accident:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire

Ottoman empire held that territory in 1914 at the start of WWI, they lost it to the British
User avatar #170 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Indeed! With the help of the Arabs, which is where this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence came in
User avatar #172 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Right, but a set of letters doesn't carry the same political weight as something that was actually signed into international law like the Balfour Dec was with the Ottoman Empire(which collapsed, invalidating it)

Sykes wanted to give Palestine to Belgium, not to the Arabs. I'll admit I'm not an expert on the Asia Minor Agreement though
User avatar #175 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Hmm...While you are correct, with all due respect, we are not talking about what carries more political weight, but the policies themselves. It doesn't matter if a letter from the president is written on the best paper in the world or on a piece of toilet paper, it's still a letter from the president and is just as important regardless of what it is written on, why it is written, or how it is written.

(It's okay, neither am I)

Still. You seem to have a better knowledge of this than myself. If you can prove, any way, even with Wikipedia, that the land was promised to the Israeli's FIRST, by a notable source (such as a person who is allowed to make such a call) and maintained by at least one party (that didn't dissolve it), I will believe you and acknowledge Palestine as an Israeli settlement.
User avatar #178 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Wait up, by Palestine do you mean Israel or the Gaza Strip/ the conquered areas? This is kind of key
User avatar #181 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Both, if you don't mind.
User avatar #186 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Okay, because it's important to break it down into two parts

Israel itself is, as I've been arguing, a legal state. They do own the territory under international law, although I can agree that from an ethnic historical standpoint they definitely shouldn't.

The territories they have captured in the 6 Days War and all the other conflicts are not theirs, they are occupying it against international law as it was owned by other Arab states. It should be noted that they have tried giving the territories back through treaties in the exchange for the surrounding states not invading them and that this was rejected, but they are occupying it illegally
User avatar #191 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Hmmm, very well. I trust you; Israel has a right to exist, although I maintain it might not necessarily be right where it is (from an ethnic standpoint, as you said).

If the Arabs and Israelis can come to a peaceful coexistence between mutually shared lands, that would be amazing; but frankly, Israel hasn't exactly been doing itself favours in earning trust from, well, anyone. Considering the crimes of the past, the near constant U.N. violations/territory grabs, and the guilt-tripping of many nations around the world, I can completely understand why some people stand so firmly against Israel
User avatar #196 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
It's nice to have a discussion about this without it resorting to tears, anger, and enough cursing to make a sailor feel sick. Thanks for that.

I've always been a bit iffy on the Israel topic because of the legal argument vs "who actually was living there" argument, but yeah it's important to see both sides.

As far as the Arab-Israeli coexistence goes, both sides are at fault. In recent years Israel has been more of the aggressor but it's important to remember that they've had some nasty invasions thrown upon them in their short existence as a nation-state.

Like the war on the first day of their existence as a state, when they were invaded from all sides:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

Or when the Arab States attacked Israel on their holiest day, when they were all fasting:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

Then again, Israel did initiate the Six Day War. Claims that Egypt was ready to mount an attack doesn't change who shot first.
User avatar #159 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm not 100% to either side on this conflict, but he's right in the sense that while it was ethnically Arabic, as you are arguing, Palestine has never existed as a fully autonomous, politically independent nation state.

It was the Mandate of Palestine under the British Monarchy and before that it was under the Turks. Prior, the Ottoman Empire. As an Arabic state it has never actually existed, unless you count its very brief two-three year stint as a protectorate of the United Kingdom in the late 1940s.

The British handed over what was legally British territory to the Jews. That became Israel, the Gaza strip, and the rest of the territories in the area.

Some sources:
avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp#art22

"Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of big brother administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory."

Palestine was still technically a Mandatory/protectorate when it was handed over. British territory, not Arab territory.

I hope you don't mind Wikipedia, but on a topic this disputed it tends to be a reliable source because of cross checking:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

"The Jewish Legion, a group primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine in 1917"
User avatar #169 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Unfortunately sir, you are wrong. Not about the land not being politically recognized, but about the split. Basically, to cut it all down; the land was promised to the Arabs in independence after they rebelled against the Ottomans, and then later it was promised to the Jews (although it was promised to the Arabs first). This proves nothing other than that Britain took any advantage it could and didn't know how to balance its books.

I have already posted links in other comments for you to see; although I would be happy to post them in a reply if you wanted easier access.

Wikipedia is fine, I use it myself; thank you. I'll be able to use the information in further debate.

At the end of the day, I would still say it should go to the person it was first promised to. (Thank you, though! I do appreciate the links. I'm always interested in political affairs)
User avatar #174 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm not too sure about "the first person it was promised to" idea due to the nature of international politics at the time. You have to remember this was before the UN or the LoN so int. relations were a fuckton shadier and vaguer back then. When they forked over the land to Israel in the 1940s there was already an established institute that defines and defends international law(whether its worth anything at all is an entirely different discussion), in the 1910s/20s there most certainly wasnt.
#145 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
Just on the off chance you're serious, and care to educate yourself. Here's a link to some reading material, a map of the world's territories circa 1914. Enjoy.
www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/British_Mandate_of_Palestine.html
User avatar #149 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Ah yes, perfect example of how Britain promised the land to multiple people, as we already discussed.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence
And here's the document where they promised it to the Arabs!

Oh, would you look at that, they promised it to the Arabs first. How quaint.

As said, nice talking to you. I'm glad I had the chance to educate you.
#153 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
So you're saying Hamas owns it due to the internation law of no takesies backsies? lol
User avatar #155 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So you're saying Israel owns it due to the international law of "But mom said-"? lol

Seriously though, the Arabs did own it, were oppressed, planned a revolt, got aid, the allies took control, and then promised it to the Arabs. Many more years down the line, it was promised to Israel.

Even IF you absolutely agree that nobody but Britain owned the land at the time, it was still promised to the Arabs first. Even after all is said and done and the dust settles, any rational person on the planet, laws, rights, circumstances, "He said-She said" aside, would say that "Hey man, he had it first".

This type of mindset you got going on is the exact reason people call you a kike piece of shit.
#182 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
That's the first time I've ever been called a kike...piece of shit once or twice...but for kike its a first time.

And well it sounds like Palestine should spend some of their money suing Britain huh? Maybe not rocket their vastly superior neighbors?

User avatar #185 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Congratulations. And perhaps so.
#189 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
Just to be clear, I'm not anti Palestine. I"m anti Hamas. I like the 2 state solution, but i think Hamas is a single minded organization and until they are removed from power the Palestinian people will suffer, whether it be at the hands of hamas or hamas' enemies.
#198 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
I do agree that a peaceful coexistence would be the best solution, but I don't think it is likely to ever come about. I personally believe that is a battle that will be continually fought til there aren't any humans left to fight it.
User avatar #193 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nor am I anti-Israel, I'm anti-Zionist. I completely agree (at least now) that Israel has a right to exist, just perhaps not necessarily where it is. If a peaceful coexistence could be maintained between both countries and cultures, it would be wonderful; but to do that requires communication and the swallowing of pride, which neither side is doing.
User avatar #166 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Also, although it doesn't really do much the land was actually promised to the Jews first. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

It was invalidated, like the one to the Arabs was, but it was done first
User avatar #164 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Legally, they own it.

You can argue that from a cultural/ethnic history the Arabs deserve it and own it, but as far as political history goes it is indeed Jewish land, at least the territory they were originally given
User avatar #173 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nonsense, The Balfour Declaration couldn't have been done first; as it was finalized in 1917 while the Arab agreement was finalized in 1915-16

In any case, I really don't have any type of hatred toward jews (although I DO hate Zionists, hence my racist remark), I just honestly believe that it should, indeed, be Arab land. If other countries believe a home should be made for jews, they can make a home for them in their own countries rather than forcing them upon another who was not even IN the agreement to begin with. By Privity Law, no contract can be made regarding a first party offering a second party anything from a third without the thirds knowledge or consent.
User avatar #177 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Also, Privity Law did not, at the time, apply to international law
User avatar #176 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
Aye, but a promise to have a proposed sphere of influence and the actual handover of land are two entirely different political things. One is a promise, the other is an actual handover. The promise of land does not mean you own it
User avatar #194 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I can't reply to the other comment, so I must reply to this one.

It's okay, it's a long video, I don't expect you to devote much time to this debate; as it won't solve anything. You seem like a very smart and reasonable person, which is exactly why I trust what you say. Again, if that's the case, Israel totally has a right to exist, but they are not 'right' in what they are doing, nor is Britain right in what it did on moral grounds.
User avatar #199 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
thanks for the gr8 deb8 m8, i r8 8/8, now i go masturb8.

Nice talking to you
User avatar #180 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Perhaps that is true, but you can't exactly hand over something to someone who is already using it. The 'hand-over' in question was just sporting immigration into proposed Israeli territories, which, at the time, were already occupied by Arabs.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZY8m0cm1oY (it's a very long and tedious video, but indeed, the Arabs actually had control over it first)
User avatar #190 - klaes (08/02/2014) [-]
I apologize for not being able to respond to the video, I'll fav your comment and PM you once I've watched it fully. Know that what I'm writing here is in ignorance of what that video contains, so please don't take me for an idiot.

As far as handing over goes; unfortunately, legally you can. I'm not saying that its right or that Israel deserves the land it has, I'm just trying to argue that as far as international law goes they do own their territory.

To put it in a more localized perspective, it was as if the an Arab was squatting in a British house. The Brit sells the land to a Jew and kicks the squatter out. It's a crude analogy, but its how it happened under int. law. Whether that law is just or right is another argument

User avatar #96 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
It obtained the land that it has through the UN. How the fuck is that unlawful... furthermore how the fuck does someone lawfully obtain an entire country? Oh that's right they go to war don't they. Much better way of obtaining land bro. Also the land was theirs to begin with ya fuck. They merely took back what was there's. Wait let me rephrase that, were given back their land.

As an american I guess it would be similar to native Americans reclaiming a section of the US as their own. However they didn't claim it the UN decided it should be given to them.

Palestine is a filth ridden country whitest Israeli has boomed into a dominating force despite it's size. If Israel owned Palestine it would be a much better country.
User avatar #101 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
A first party cannot take land from a second party and give it to a third. The Palestinians rejected all borders and divisions suggested by the UN, and the UN went through with it anyways.

Indeed, you don't unless you go to war; but my objective isn't avoiding war, it's giving credit where credit is due, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.

No it wasn't. They had a group of people there, yes; and then they left. You don't get to call something yours and then completely evacuate it, and you especially aren't obligated to have it back just because "Hey, my book says I can".

The UN doesn't get to decide if your house should go to one asshole or another. It's your house, you lived there, you built it, nobody has any right to take it from you, ESPECIALLY people who aren't even involved in the situation.

And if literally anyone else owned all of Africa, it too would be much better; but guess what, shit doesn't work like that. You don't get to call something yours just because you think you deserve it or that other people aren't using it right.
#120 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
ProTip: The U.N. did not own the land prior to WWII, Britian ruled over it as a territory, after WWII all the major nations decided keeping territories was fuck all expensive and hard to defend so they gave them away for the most part. Britain, at the U.N.'s suggestion gave Israel the land they own now.
User avatar #134 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
www.historylearningsite.co.uk/palestine_1918_to_1948.htm

Britian promised the land to multiple people because it didn't know how to balance its books; all in all, the land should go to the people who maintained it, which were the Arabs.
#113 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
check out laws in the US pertaining the "imminent domain" it allows the US to say "oh we need this land, here's some money, it's all ours now" and take it regardless of whether you want to sell it or not. if a large enough organization decides you don't get to keep something then you don't get to keep it and anyone who outright defies the UN might as well declare war on all its members.
User avatar #115 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
1. U.S. is not world authority
2. Neither is the U.N.
3. Not every country is PART of the U.N.
4. Nobody ever PAID Palestine

So, to reiterate, it would be like a bunch of guys breaking into your house and saying "Hey, King of Spain wants us to have this house, so its ours now. Get out". I don't know about you, but I would be happy to go to war with any king on the planet if they thought they could do that with MY land.
#117 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
it's what i like to call bigger gun diplomacy, if i shoot you in the leg, tell you to give me your car and point the gun at your head, are you really not gunna give the car over? you're right not every country is a member of the UN but survival in a world where all UN members refuse to deal with you at best and at worst simply invade and take over at worst, are you really gunna argue? very few countries in this world are self-sufficient enough to exist independent of most of the world.
User avatar #105 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
Who says that? I want proof. What legal instrument states that this can not be done.

No it doesn't. Also just so you know if Israel decides to go to war. It might very well be a genocide of the Palestinian people.

Yes they do, the UN is there for the sole reason of trying to keep peace. So if they decide that giving your house away will do that, then they will.

Why doesn't it? explain it to me? why waste precious resources on people who will not use it efficiently? If there is a problem why not fucking fix it? those who cannot use what is given to them should have the item reclaimed.

Lets say I agree with you , it is the Palestinians land. they owned it , and ran it into the ground. Obliterating what they were granted. A fucking wasteland is what it would be.
So why should they own any land at all? if a kid cant keep their dog alive , would you let him continue to raise more dogs?
User avatar #111 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privity_in_English_law
Certainly, there it is.

www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine
Oh, look at that, you're still wrong. And here, I even gave you the liberty of choosing the links for yourself to remove my bias. Yes it could, but saying "We could just kill you if we wanted to" and not doing it doesn't make you 'right' or 'good', it just means you have opportunity.

Newsflash, not every country is in the UN or even wants to be. A neighbourhood watch cannot come inside your house and use it as a headquarters without your consent, no matter how much they would like to.

Why? Because if it worked like that, I could take your money because I feel like you waste it. I could take your car because I feel like it chews too much gas. I could take your house because I feel like it has one too many playrooms. I could kill you because I feel like you waste the oxygen around you, THAT'S why it doesn't work like that, you fucking moron.

Maybe, maybe not, but if they obliterated it, it would still be their land. You are not obligated to something just because someone else doesn't use it the way you want them to, and it doesn't work like that because (as we already pointed out) your life would be forfeit because I said it was. If a kid can't keep their dog alive in your country, animal rights can see to it that they don't get any more; if a kid can't keep their dog alive in another country, your animal rights can't do shit.
User avatar #116 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
That's English law it has no regards in the UN.

never said it did.

I'm aware however , they should be. Why would any country not wan't to try and keep the peace?

That's not what I'm talking about you fucking idiot. Im talking about water/food/land. Resources ya fuck. why waste those things on people who will not use them efficiently? If you are going to take food spit on it throw it on the ground , and not eat it. Why should you be aloud to have food?

The kid doesn't switch countries at any point. the Kid is the country the dog is the land.

User avatar #121 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/privity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privity_of_contract
www.lawteacher.net/contract-law/essays/discuss-criticisms-of-the-doctrine-of-privity-of-contract-contract-law-essay.php

Oh look at that, privity counts in nearly every first world country and thus extends to all the countries it trades with. Fancy that.

Good, because it's your exact attitude that makes people anti-semitic.

Ooooooooh, now I see. So taking someones land, food, water, supplies, ect. is fine; but gods forbid, don't take your car. I'm really glad we edged out this line of how you prioritize yourself over others. Why? Because they're not YOUR resources, they're theirs. If someone chops down a tree, you can't take it from them because you decide you can use it better; you chop down your own tree. Because if you bought or attained the food legally, it's yours; you can do with it as you like, even waste it (and you're completely missing the point that there's no guarantee that they will. You just WANT to think they will).

Good for them, my point still stands. One country cannot steal another's resources because they think they will use it better; you get it legally, or not a tall. Palestine wasn't obtained legally, jews have NO right to be there.
#140 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
at the end of the day the only reason human rights exist is because governments find it convenient. no law in the universe can stop someone from killing you and taking what's yours, it's the foundation of imperialism, an idea that only ended because most people agreed to end it. say what you will but at the end of the day people are complete shit to each other law or no and the only thing protecting you are the people with the big guns saying "nah i don't want you doing that to people" laws are a matter of convenience to the nations that make them and at least historically enforced with the phrase "my gun is bigger than yours, wanna see?" i'm not saying that modern times might consider it illegal or not, i'm saying that if you don't play by the rules of the guys with the biggest stick then someone will get hit.
User avatar #142 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
And all that is very true; yet I'm still absolutely sure you have a problem with how North Korea treats its citizens.

We are not the universe, we are not basic beasts, we are men, and we have gotten to this position through teamwork, trust, and cooperation beyond our basic instincts. It's BECAUSE of concepts like honour, loyalty, integrity, that we have working civilizations and classes today. It's this very reason why you don't have to walk outside afraid that you will get shot.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather give my fellow man the benefit of the doubt and say we're better than our most crude instincts.
User avatar #154 - Kanoah (08/02/2014) [-]
#152 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
many of the most defining characteristics of modern society comes from the fact that modern rules only apply when both sides are honorable enough to stick with them and often times history is biased towards the victors who focus on enemy atrocities and downplay their own, North Korea is a prime example of downplaying your own heinous acts by blowing enemy violations far out of proportion. at the end of the day you walk outside without fearing being shot because there are people with guns who say that's your right and fighting those who disagree, in addition what is considered right or lawful is usually defined by either the society it pertains to or the ruler of that area. governments are merely people who make decisions regarding the way things are run then back it up with military force if necessary.
User avatar #55 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
They do not want to shoot children just for the sake of killing them. Even Palestinians know they are not the target, that hamas is
#66 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
thats funny because i just watched an interview on cnn where the israeli representative of foreign affairs was literally asked "there are high numbers of Palestinian deaths, and no show of effort to reduce the ongoing casualties. More children have been killed in one month than Israeli forces for the last year. at what point does the deaths of hundreds of children become too much" and the guy responded with deflection and denial saying Palestine is responsible, we didn't go out to kill kids and civilians but it happened and its not our fault we keep doing it. They really dont seem to care about NOT killing children
#122 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
No, what he said was basically It's Palestines fault, they hide and attack us while surrounding themselves with children. We cannot stop defending ourselves for the sake of their children lest we sacrifice our own children to do so. We must put our people first, the safety of their people is their responsibility.
User avatar #82 - mcstorms (08/02/2014) [-]
using cnn as a credible source.
User avatar #72 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
War is cruel, i am not happy with children dying. but what the fuck are they suposed to do? wait for hamas to bomb the fuck out of them?
#107 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you deaf and blind?. If Israel sit and did nothing there would be 0 (zero) casualties. Let me repeat. ZERO. Those puny hamas rockets do no damage at all plus they are stopped by antirocket system. Before land operation there were no casualties on israeli side. NONE. And that would be it, hamas would shoot out and then it would stop. End of conflict. Zero casualties.
#124 - xgolgothax (08/02/2014) [-]
Just because Israel's defenses are mostly effective is not a cause for an argument that they should not defend themselves. Are they supposed to just let hamas rain rockets on them into infinity?
User avatar #109 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
End of conflict?
first of all the iron dome is not perfect enough to block every missiles (why would there be isreali civilian death, even a few if the missiles were all blocked?)

And would you really sit and do nothing? honestly?
Why do people think Hamas would've just shot a few missiles than stop, why do you fucking think it would have stop there??
User avatar #70 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
well first of all, i'm not saying jews are all perfect, maybe you saw someone who just don't care about causalities. But i didn't saw that video. and by the way, why are you quoting the foreign representative, but only using approximates about what the guy responded instead of also quoting it ?
User avatar #63 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Then why the video of a group of them cheering every time a bomb went off in a civilian area?
User avatar #67 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
two (maybe morfe) possibilities

1)some jews are jerk, like in every nation

2) fake video
User avatar #71 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Video wasn't fake; it's everywhere, and the JIDF is constantly trying to get it removed at every possible section.

Seriously though, Orthodox jews are the most racist, bigoted, and prejudiced people I have ever met in my life. Their entire religion is based around how they are better than everyone else, and anyone who is not jewish is like an animal and should only exist to serve them. Nearly every single Arab living in Israel is horribly oppressed and abused daily, and I can not find a single article by ANY foreigner who actually says Israel is a good place to live even if you're not jewish.

Not only that, but nearly the entirety of Israels foreign political policy is reminding people about the Holocaust, and how that justifies every human rights violation, every treaty violation, and and every land violation they have gone through.

The ONLY people who actually support Israel in this whole mess are either jews or people who don't watch the news
User avatar #73 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Because you think the "news" show everything that happens on both side? lel.

Yes indeed some jew like the ortodox can be assholes. but you are only mentioning the jews here, you forget the other side...
User avatar #76 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh fuck off. We have the internet and plenty of different sources; there is no excuse for anyone to be ignorant in this day and age.

What the hell are you talking about?
User avatar #77 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
you talk like you are defending Hamas. you point the fact that Jewish are assholes and stop there. Last time i checked, it wasn't the Jews who behead, excise and other barbarian shit like that. I just don't understand. I mean, i hear people complaining about Islamic radicalism, but they almost fucking support them...

What is hard is to find which source is good, and which one isn't. I know people who live there, both jewish and palestinian. don't worry they know more than we know
User avatar #80 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I am defending Hamas. I don't agree with extremists, but it was Palestinian land LONG before it was ever Israeli land; I'd rather side with the extremists who cry "These people are invading my home and I want them out" than the extremists who cry "This is my home because I say it is, I want these people out". Indeed, radical Muslims can be extremely barbaric, and so can radical jews; again, I'd rather side with the people who have a legitimate reason to be angry.

And that's why you do your own research rather than just supporting the side you are most familiar with. I have done my research, I know Muslim extremists have violated laws and treaties and done awful, horrible things; but Jew CIVILIANS have done the exact same shit and have acted just as barbaric. Israel wants Palestinian land, Palestine just wants to be left alone.
#179 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
To be fair, it was the jews land waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was Palestine's.

Also how the fuck can you defend hamas. Thats like the most ass backwards thing Ive heard in years. They preach the utter destruction of jews and israel and are basically the reason this whole thing is going on. There are plenty of muslims who live peacefully in israel and back in the pre-israel period there were jews who lived peacefully in palestine. Its the extremists on either side that are the problem, and I assure ever member of hamas is an extremist. Backing hamas is backing the problem
User avatar #184 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
How the hell do you figure? Biblical times? Perhaps so, but then they evacuated out of the entire area. You don't own a ball at a park today just because you played with it yesterday. If you leave it, it's fair game (especially over the course of thousands of years).

Good for them, I support that decision, as Israel has no right to be there in the first place. If they can live peacefully on mutually agreed settlements, good for them. If not, Palestinians owned it first.
User avatar #87 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes the Palestinian want to be left alone, they were doing find before Hamas came and set everything on fire
User avatar #89 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Funny. If I claimed all of Israel should be damned because of the actions of a few extremists, you would be screaming about how unreasonable that would be.
User avatar #90 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
only took 19 to kill 3000 americans...
User avatar #91 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you referring to 9/11? Ya, they did. Guess what, that's STILL the actions of a few extremists, and you're not going to be able to use that as leverage to earn my support.
User avatar #94 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Exacly, it was a few extremist.

problem is, there is not only 50 extremist in this world, i hope you know that
User avatar #98 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, both Israel and Palestine have extremists, but that doesn't make the very existence of Israel as a whole unlawful
#110 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Yes it does. And hopefully finally jews will be thrown out from Palestine.
User avatar #114 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
We can always hope.
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User avatar #86 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, cause you think Jews stole these land? Ha

They grew their own fortune, bought land that were too dry to harvest and infected with mosquitoes who were know to bring malaria. They fucking build everything.
the Jews who stole the land of the poor Palestinian is Hamas propaganda.

Yes i defend the side i am most familiar with, just like you do. don't worry, i can make some research too.

"The people who have legitimate reason to be angry" are you serious??
User avatar #88 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Oh wait, you think they didn't? Ha.
www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=j3TcU42PN-qV8QeSnoCYDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=israel+stole+land+from+palestine

And unlike you, I actually have proof.

Israel didn't buy anything. One of the links in the google states it pretty clearly: "In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine."

A first party cannot take land from a second party and legally sell it to a third. It doesn't work that way.

I don't. I'm Canadian, I am nowhere near this conflict, nor does it affect me; I study it because I want to, and I take the side I see as most just.

I am serious; you're just blinded by bias.
User avatar #92 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
" i fond i alink on google that says i'm right, haha you are blinded by bias!"

seriously man...

i am canadian from palestinian origine, why would i defend israel?
User avatar #95 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
"I only listen to evidence that tells me I'm right".

Seriously man...

I have no idea; that's completely your business.
User avatar #97 - darknak (08/02/2014) [-]
that's... that's exacly what you're doing you know?
User avatar #102 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
No. You have provided literally no evidence beyond your own word, while I have provided multiple pages. I even posted the entire google search so YOU could pick out the pages you wanted to read, in order to avoid any bias.
#183 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
God damn you both are fucking retarded. This is like the singular least intelligent argument on this subject I have ever read
User avatar #187 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
So stop reading it.
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User avatar #251 - choclategum (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I wasn't aware that tumblr was just one single person. Its a website made of thousands of different people all with differing opinions. That's like me saying fj is full of racist, autistic, 16 year olds who think they're the tough shit of the internet. L and who 5 ink it's cool to be sociopathic.
User avatar #253 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Never once have I said Tumblr as a whole. Every time I have addressed the issue of their bigotry and racism, I said "That side", to imply, the side that perpetuates it.

Don't change the subject just because you lost the debate.
User avatar #254 - choclategum (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you kidding me? I haven't lost shit and I find it funny that the person I the argument determines who lost or not a day I'll show you exactly where you said that.

You're acting like it's bad to hate tumblr when it's not. you didn't say that side of tumblr or that particular part of tumblr. You just said tumblr, so what else is someone supposed to think.

Also what you have said has not discredited ANYTHING of what I said and in fact it proves it. You write your blatant racism, (That some people will take seriously) off as a joke, but if tumblr says anything racist then it's automatically worst, whether or not they're joking And you just used THE MOST RACIST GROUPS who are known for killing as an example of something good against a website of 13-30 year olds who will talk shit but NEVER commit the hate crimes these groups have done. And yet you act like tumblr is worse.
User avatar #255 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nice job not including the whole sentence. "YOU'RE acting like it's bad to hate Tumblr when it's not; they are unreasonable, they are bigoted, they are prejudiced, and if they had their way, many on that side probably would kill or harm."

It's the internet; everything is a joke until proven otherwise (as tones cannot be conveyed over text) and jokes in person can easily be differentiated from serious statements. If you are unable to take a joke, even a grim or heavy-hearted one, you probably shouldn't be in any worthwhile conversation.

It's worse because saying "of course he steals, he's black" in a lighthearted manner is far better than saying "Kill all white people. Seriously" in a serious manner. I didn't say Tumblr is worse than the Klansmen or Nazis, I said they're worse than Funnyjunk. Of course the two former groups are worse, but at least they can be reasoned with; that side of Tumblr cannot be (not in any way I've seen, anyways); in the long-term, that IS worse, because it means if they ever did get together and go through with these plans, they would never stop.
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User avatar #245 - choclategum (08/02/2014) [-]
But those neo-nazis, Klansmen and etc would have no problem harming other races while everything the tumblrs talk about is just contained to the internet, because they're too much of a pussy to actually go out and harm people.
User avatar #250 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
But that's not what we're arguing about here. Everyone already hates Klansmen, YOU'RE acting like it's bad to hate Tumblr when it's not; they are unreasonable, they are bigoted, they are prejudiced, and if they had their way, many on that side probably would kill or harm.
User avatar #251 - choclategum (08/02/2014) [-]
I'm sorry I wasn't aware that tumblr was just one single person. Its a website made of thousands of different people all with differing opinions. That's like me saying fj is full of racist, autistic, 16 year olds who think they're the tough shit of the internet. L and who 5 ink it's cool to be sociopathic.
User avatar #253 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Never once have I said Tumblr as a whole. Every time I have addressed the issue of their bigotry and racism, I said "That side", to imply, the side that perpetuates it.

Don't change the subject just because you lost the debate.
User avatar #254 - choclategum (08/02/2014) [-]
Are you kidding me? I haven't lost shit and I find it funny that the person I the argument determines who lost or not a day I'll show you exactly where you said that.

You're acting like it's bad to hate tumblr when it's not. you didn't say that side of tumblr or that particular part of tumblr. You just said tumblr, so what else is someone supposed to think.

Also what you have said has not discredited ANYTHING of what I said and in fact it proves it. You write your blatant racism, (That some people will take seriously) off as a joke, but if tumblr says anything racist then it's automatically worst, whether or not they're joking And you just used THE MOST RACIST GROUPS who are known for killing as an example of something good against a website of 13-30 year olds who will talk shit but NEVER commit the hate crimes these groups have done. And yet you act like tumblr is worse.
User avatar #255 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
Nice job not including the whole sentence. "YOU'RE acting like it's bad to hate Tumblr when it's not; they are unreasonable, they are bigoted, they are prejudiced, and if they had their way, many on that side probably would kill or harm."

It's the internet; everything is a joke until proven otherwise (as tones cannot be conveyed over text) and jokes in person can easily be differentiated from serious statements. If you are unable to take a joke, even a grim or heavy-hearted one, you probably shouldn't be in any worthwhile conversation.

It's worse because saying "of course he steals, he's black" in a lighthearted manner is far better than saying "Kill all white people. Seriously" in a serious manner. I didn't say Tumblr is worse than the Klansmen or Nazis, I said they're worse than Funnyjunk. Of course the two former groups are worse, but at least they can be reasoned with; that side of Tumblr cannot be (not in any way I've seen, anyways); in the long-term, that IS worse, because it means if they ever did get together and go through with these plans, they would never stop.
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#50 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Being mocked for being fat is not a crime.
User avatar #52 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
But rape is.
User avatar #21 - lamarsmithgot (08/01/2014) [-]
Agreed!


Just don't try to tell that to the feminists or you'll be in for one hell of a privilege check
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User avatar #19 - lamarsmithgot (08/01/2014) [-]
Feminism is supposed to be a movement to end female gender inequality. she was treated unequally, so she joins up because she's now a sympathizer. In her mind, simply removing herself from the assholes isn't enough. She wants to join the "fight" against them
User avatar #20 - captainfuckitall (08/01/2014) [-]
She wasn't treated unequally, she was subjected to a crime; you know, like men are, or children. The fact that some bloke gets robbed while another gets stabbed doesn't justify the Men's Rights Movement, because crime is not an indicator of rights, but a lack of morality.

If she wants to fight against rapists, she can become a police officer or detective. If she wants to 'fight assholes', she can take up boxing.
#50 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Being mocked for being fat is not a crime.
User avatar #52 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
But rape is.
User avatar #21 - lamarsmithgot (08/01/2014) [-]
Agreed!


Just don't try to tell that to the feminists or you'll be in for one hell of a privilege check
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User avatar #17 - lamarsmithgot (08/01/2014) [-]
uhhh against anti-feminism? Counter argument wasn't the best word choice but you know what I mean.

The eternal argument: Feminism is bullshit

The rebuttal: see content
User avatar #18 - captainfuckitall (08/01/2014) [-]
But how does her message support the need for Feminism? How does knowing a group of assholes validate the existence of an entire (and often flawed and bias) ideology?

Usually, when you meet a group of dickheads, the best solution is to stop being near them (or just beat them up or whatever). Feminism isn't going to fix that.
User avatar #19 - lamarsmithgot (08/01/2014) [-]
Feminism is supposed to be a movement to end female gender inequality. she was treated unequally, so she joins up because she's now a sympathizer. In her mind, simply removing herself from the assholes isn't enough. She wants to join the "fight" against them
User avatar #20 - captainfuckitall (08/01/2014) [-]
She wasn't treated unequally, she was subjected to a crime; you know, like men are, or children. The fact that some bloke gets robbed while another gets stabbed doesn't justify the Men's Rights Movement, because crime is not an indicator of rights, but a lack of morality.

If she wants to fight against rapists, she can become a police officer or detective. If she wants to 'fight assholes', she can take up boxing.
#50 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Being mocked for being fat is not a crime.
User avatar #52 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
But rape is.
User avatar #21 - lamarsmithgot (08/01/2014) [-]
Agreed!


Just don't try to tell that to the feminists or you'll be in for one hell of a privilege check
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#37 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Just because there are equal rights between genders, doesn't mean that those rights are enforced equally.
Social perception gives disadvantages (and advantages) to both genders, particularly in regards to the justice system and other opinion/emotion based systems.
User avatar #38 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
That's true; but also has nothing to do with Feminism. You can't change the actions of dickheads by telling them they're dickheads; if it worked that way, they wouldn't BE dickheads in the first place.
#42 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
Many dickheads act likes dickheads because they don't really realise that they're being dickheads.
If you go to a party and act like a dickhead, everyone's going to call you a dickhead and you'll either change your behaviour or get thrown out.

Perhaps the main problem with modern Feminism in general is they fact that they're definition of a 'dickhead' is too broad and they want to go straight to throwing people out.
User avatar #43 - captainfuckitall (08/02/2014) [-]
No. That doesn't hold up unless you have not been exposed to any social norms for the majority of your life. Seriously; one of the best traits in a human is our ability to recognize patterns, actions, and consequences. It's what stopped you from running like a Ninja from Naruto because you found out you looked retarded; you didn't need anyone to tell you.

As much of a shock as it might be to you, some people completely recognize their behaviours and accept them as a part of who they are. Sometimes a dickhead understands they're a dickhead, and continues to be one because that's just the type of person they are. The only way this changes is with extreme social stigma put against it, and the only way THAT changes is with cultural shifts; which Feminism only works to hinder rather than help.

Indeed, that's a part of it. Generally, many of the women who are part of the Feminist movement don't understand what Sexism actually is. Because they have never been exposed to real oppression, any type of slight against them is magnified to the point where they THINK it's oppression; and that's the difference between "Stalinist Russia" oppression and "A guy complimented me on my looks today" oppression.
#60 - anonymous (08/02/2014) [-]
not going to lie, I've run like they do in Naruto... though i agree i knew I'd look ridiculous before I did it.
User avatar #36 - citruslord (08/02/2014) [-]
Not to mention this isn't a problem that is unique to women. Men are legitimately taken advantage of in the same ways, and quite often they encounter more problem when trying to report it than a woman would.
Rape is a problem, but it isn't a reason to need feminism.
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User avatar #18 - chrispoot (08/02/2014) [-]
I most certainly second this. That guy... oh man, he can fucking shoot.
Also
#rekt
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#235 - baitdoesnttalkback (08/02/2014) [-]
i think its fake simply because he tweeted "tumblr home of the sluttiest virgins" and the fact it was kinda quoted makes me think some dude just tried to think what he would say
#73 - felixjarl (08/01/2014) [-]
It is rumoured to be fake but i am not exactly certain.

Considering this is the internet......probably fake.
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User avatar #50 - rheago (08/01/2014) [-]
I don't think it was in that order though
#64 - Penn (08/01/2014) [-]
Sorry, bro, but it was exactly in that order.
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User avatar #11 - amonlavtar (08/01/2014) [-]
you must be new here
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User avatar #14 - fuzzyballs (08/01/2014) [-]
you don't want source, it's the most retarded fucking show ever
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"wat als" a flemish tv series.
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#147688 - tecknos (08/01/2014) [-]
What if I walk into a boxing, jui-jitsu,taekwondo, or other fighting institutions and ask to spar and check out my fighting style? Respectfully ofcourse, just to determine whats my style? Also, if that is a good way to go about it then what should I look for after each fight?
User avatar #147689 - captainfuckitall (08/01/2014) [-]
You can, although some places might want you to pay; if you're willing to do that, go for it.

The only thing to look at, really, is yourself. It'll be difficult at first, as it's hard to focus on what you're actually doing in a fight; but just try to notice how you move and flow, what FEELS best for you. Does it feel more natural to block or dodge? Does it feel more natural to hit harder or to hit faster? Would you rather kill your opponent, knock them out, tire them out, or use their force against them? When you fight, what's the goal?

Also; the reason I suggest going to any random bloke is that, indeed, everyone fights differently. Everyone has their own style or their own way of doing things, and so when you focus, you'll see how you best react to each and every style.

No matter how much you train, it's experience that wins out over-all. Knowing exactly where your body is at all times, and how it reacts to the body of your opponent, is far more valuable than any type of skill or technique you could otherwise develop. Besides, muscle memory gained from actual combat is far better than muscle memory gained from light sparring or training

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User avatar #489 - myfourthaccount ONLINE (07/18/2014) [-]
dude, you're like my most favorite person on earth right now haha
User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no ******* mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
User avatar #474 - aherorising (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone ONLINE (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
#466 - anonymous (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for **** ",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, immature, and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
User avatar #461 - potgardener (06/01/2013) [-]
youre pretty ****** in the head if beating a kid is a good idea, parents would need to hit their kids if they taught them what was right and wrong from the beginning
User avatar #462 to #461 - captainfuckitall (06/01/2013) [-]
It's ironic how you talk about avoiding situations, when your very comment isn't needed considering I already explained, about five times now, that I do not mean you must 'abuse' your children in order to get good results. My comment, and all the comments afterwards, were about how when compassion and support fails you must turn to punishment and discipline, including simply smacking your kid upside the head

Perhaps you should read more and get better informed before jumping to opinions, yes?
#459 - bossdelainternet (05/11/2013) [-]
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest  threads i've seen this year.   
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...   
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest threads i've seen this year.
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
User avatar #460 to #459 - captainfuckitall (05/11/2013) [-]
I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult

I choose the former

Thank you, good sir
#453 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
I just thought I'd let you know that I just did an awful thing and quoted your majestic deep words of death wisdom onto my facebook. I gave you credit, but as part of my shame for stealing I thought I'd tell you. That was honestly one of the best things I've ever read.

Which is also why I screencapped it. Don't worry I swear I'm not going to try to get to frontpage with it I just wanted to save it.
User avatar #454 to #453 - captainfuckitall (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all, I am not concerned with thumbs in the least. If you would like to post it, by all means do so, if you'd like to take credit, do so as well; I care not for material value or fame, as long as comprehend and understand the message
#455 to #454 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
Oh man you just keep getting better:)    
   
But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
Oh man you just keep getting better:)

But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
#449 - captainspankmonkey (02/27/2012) [-]
Internet problems
That is why :P
User avatar #450 to #460 - captainfuckitall (02/27/2012) [-]
ahhh, haha, sorry then :P
#447 - anonymous (09/26/2011) [-]
you're a lovely person
User avatar #448 to #458 - captainfuckitall (09/26/2011) [-]
awe, thank you, kind stranger :3

that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D
#444 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
Im becoming level 28 soon
User avatar #445 to #454 - captainfuckitall (08/22/2011) [-]
sooooooooooooooooon............
User avatar #446 to #455 - captainspankmonkey (08/22/2011) [-]
very soooooooooooooooooooooon......
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