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#61 - I can't even read these because it takes, what, 30 chapters fo… 06/26/2016 on Tomo-chan wa Onnanoko! pt. 35 -2

#142730 - But what of certain lacks of proof? Such as no proof of humans… [+] (1 reply) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board 0

#142731 - zlane (06/26/2016) [-]

I don't think the evidence is all on one side here. Dinosaur bones should not have carbon-14 or soft tissue if they are millions of years old, yet they do.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0065128113000020
Figure 8 "three osteocytes with fine filopodial processes which interconnect"
9 and 10 "intracellular organelle-like structures"
11 and 12 "the center of each Haversian system is populated by possible preserved blood products"
13 "hollow blood vessel emanating from Haversian canal. Blood vessels are flexible and pliable."
15 and 16 "possible blood products lining inner wall of hardened vessel"
7-19 "large oblate osteocytes lying on fibrillar bone matrix"

www.newgeology.us/presentation48.html
this group of creationists C14 dated various dinosaur bones to 22-39ka

#142726 - That's true, but if you find no proof of something, isn't it '… [+] (3 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board 0

#142728 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

i admit there's no scientific proof of God, what i would dispute is whether evolution has been proved. i've seen the evidence, and i think all of it can be explained under creationism. genetic similarities, for instance, would be the result of God using the same template for all life

#142730 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

But what of certain lacks of proof? Such as no proof of humans or dinosaurs living together, or the Earth being older than claimed?

#142731 - zlane (06/26/2016) [-]

#142725 - I figured so. I argued with him once before now with the same … [+] (1 reply) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board 0

#142727 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

i think he's genuine, but he uses tactics that he knows are dishonest.

#142722 - But what of those who dispute that fact? The vast majority of … [+] (5 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board 0

#142724 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

Sure, i chalk it up to science's implementation of methodological naturalism. evolution is the only game in town, so to speak, because supernatural explanations aren't allowed in science

#142726 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

That's true, but if you find no proof of something, isn't it 'right' to focus on the fields you have found proof for? At least mainly.

#142728 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

#142730 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

But what of certain lacks of proof? Such as no proof of humans or dinosaurs living together, or the Earth being older than claimed?

#142731 - zlane (06/26/2016) [-]

#142718 - You're doing it again. I'm not going to indulge you. Goodbye. [+] (4 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board +1

#142723 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

He's a troll. he actually told me he just comes here to make fun of me

#142725 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

I figured so. I argued with him once before now with the same result.

I actually think he may not be, and this is just genuinely how he strokes his ego, and he only doesn't want to admit it. It really IS depressing if this is the most someone social interaction that someone can benefit from.

#142727 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

i think he's genuine, but he uses tactics that he knows are dishonest.

#142721 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

Maybe you should realise that you invite baiting by grey-knighting.

#142716 - Then what do you believe? [+] (7 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board 0

#142720 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

I believe life was created more-or-less in its current form somewhere between 6000-10000 years ago

#142722 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

But what of those who dispute that fact? The vast majority of them believe in their version, and without a doubt they are educated and well learned, are they not?

#142724 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

Sure, i chalk it up to science's implementation of methodological naturalism. evolution is the only game in town, so to speak, because supernatural explanations aren't allowed in science

#142726 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

That's true, but if you find no proof of something, isn't it 'right' to focus on the fields you have found proof for? At least mainly.

#142728 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

#142730 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

But what of certain lacks of proof? Such as no proof of humans or dinosaurs living together, or the Earth being older than claimed?

#142731 - zlane (06/26/2016) [-]

#142713 - "He's asking for proof" "Well we're made of… [+] (6 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board +1

#142717 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

No get it right, you have to say it properly. Come on, do it with me now, "I am a moron, and will refrain from being stupid in future".

My claim was in no way radical, it is the logical conclusion of two facts, and so it makes absolutely no sense to ask for proof. It's like asking what the proof of gravity is.

#142718 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

You're doing it again. I'm not going to indulge you. Goodbye.

#142723 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

He's a troll. he actually told me he just comes here to make fun of me

#142725 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

#142727 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

i think he's genuine, but he uses tactics that he knows are dishonest.

#142721 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

Maybe you should realise that you invite baiting by grey-knighting.

#142709 - Yes that's all well and good. PROOF. You are… [+] (8 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board +1

#142711 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

It's hard to understand you when you constantly have your feet in your mouth.

I presume you aren't contesting what a cousin is, no one is that much of a moron, so I'll assume you're taking umbridge with the claim that chickens and humans have a common ancestor.

Chickens are a type of bird, yes? Birds (or Aves as a biologist would say) are descended from dinosaurs, something you probably know. Dinosaurs are obviously reptiles, and reptiles are amniotes (that is to say they lay eggs outside water). Humans are primates, which are mammals, which are also amniotes. So humans and chickens are both amniotes. From this we can understand that humans and chickens both share a common ancestor which was an amniote.

mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full.pdf+html
According to this paper by Benton and Donoghue amniotes first arose around 312 million years ago, with the first synapsids (the ancestors of mammals) also arose around this time, making it a good estimate for the time at which the two lineages diverged.

And as we know, cousins share a common ancestor, so humans and chickens are therefore cousins, genetically speaking.

#142713 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

"He's asking for proof"
"Well we're made of chemicals so it works"
"Got proof of that?"
"You didn't bring any either..."
"I didn't claim anything"
"What did I claim?"
"Look up"
"Lol, yeah, we're made of chemicals and stuff"
"That's not, got any proof of that?"
"Oh, yeah, sure"

There's no reason to fluff yourself up, you were just being very stupid.

You're correct, I knew all of that already, and believed you the first time, you just need to learn that NOT being argumentative for the sake of your pride often does much better in efficiency and practicality than any sort of shouting match. I mean, you went through, what, three whole comment chains of mud slinging with that other guy? You can call "them thinking they're winning" sad, but you're the person who enjoys it and goads it; that's just desperate.

#142717 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

#142718 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

You're doing it again. I'm not going to indulge you. Goodbye.

#142723 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

He's a troll. he actually told me he just comes here to make fun of me

#142725 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

#142727 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

i think he's genuine, but he uses tactics that he knows are dishonest.

#142721 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

Maybe you should realise that you invite baiting by grey-knighting.

#142706 - "Say hello to your millionth cousin." [+] (10 replies) 06/25/2016 on Religion Board +1

#142707 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

>>#142552

#142709 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

Yes that's all well and good.

PROOF.

You are just SAYING that, what I (and likely he) are asking for is a PEER reviewed article or conclusive evidence that you can direct us to.

You are not a scientist, you can just 'say' anything you please, and no matter what you say, it is never anyone's job to look up your sources for you.

Are you doing this intentionally or are you actually just this bad at comprehension?

#142711 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

#142713 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

#142717 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

#142718 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

You're doing it again. I'm not going to indulge you. Goodbye.

#142723 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

He's a troll. he actually told me he just comes here to make fun of me

#142725 - captainfuckitall (06/25/2016) [-]

#142727 - zlane (06/25/2016) [-]

i think he's genuine, but he uses tactics that he knows are dishonest.

#142721 - platinumaltaria (06/25/2016) [-]

Maybe you should realise that you invite baiting by grey-knighting.

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