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#63 - >Implying it's still not annoying as **** …  [+] (2 new replies) 12/12/2014 on How to get the gurl 0
User avatar #76 - elsanna (12/22/2014) [-]
>calling them meme arrows

Can you newfag harder?
User avatar #77 - captainfuckitall (12/22/2014) [-]
I hope you're joking.
#25 - It is, but I'm trying to build up businesses and investments, … 12/12/2014 on Vidya gem -1
#41 - It rings a few bells, though it's not what I was referring to. 12/12/2014 on Lucid Dreaming Failure 0
#39 - I've done research on the subject because I WANTED to get into…  [+] (2 new replies) 12/12/2014 on Lucid Dreaming Failure 0
User avatar #40 - digitalfruit (12/12/2014) [-]
I just did some quick googling, I may be experiencing something some people call astral catalepsy instead.

Whenever I tried researching the phenomena that occurred to me I always just came up with sleep paralysis (searching "sleep paralysis but no hallucinations" just changed that...)

When it happens to me I'm basically aware that I am awake and there are my surroundings and noises but I can't move, it's hard to breathe, sounds like white noise is louder, and sometimes I get auditory hallucinations. Usually when I try to move it's like a force is acting against me and I have to push really hard to move at all, and when I finally snap out of it I find that I haven't moved at all.

Does this sound familiar to you?
User avatar #41 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
It rings a few bells, though it's not what I was referring to.
#35 - I think that's only because you get scared. Sleep paralysis is…  [+] (5 new replies) 12/12/2014 on Lucid Dreaming Failure 0
User avatar #38 - digitalfruit (12/12/2014) [-]
I wouldn't say it like that, you make it sound like hallucinogenic drugs, when you are in the state it is unbearably uncomfortable in most cases, whether you expect it or not you will naturally feel paranoid and the want to get out of it.

Though, I have never had hallucinations with my open eyes during sleep paralysis so I don't know how different the experience is, although I wouldn't imagine too much.
User avatar #39 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
I've done research on the subject because I WANTED to get into it; everyone else who was able to reports positive experiences because they thought it was cool. It's literally just like a dream, just while awake: You have good thoughts, good things are seen, bad thoughts, bad things are seen, ect.
User avatar #40 - digitalfruit (12/12/2014) [-]
I just did some quick googling, I may be experiencing something some people call astral catalepsy instead.

Whenever I tried researching the phenomena that occurred to me I always just came up with sleep paralysis (searching "sleep paralysis but no hallucinations" just changed that...)

When it happens to me I'm basically aware that I am awake and there are my surroundings and noises but I can't move, it's hard to breathe, sounds like white noise is louder, and sometimes I get auditory hallucinations. Usually when I try to move it's like a force is acting against me and I have to push really hard to move at all, and when I finally snap out of it I find that I haven't moved at all.

Does this sound familiar to you?
User avatar #41 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
It rings a few bells, though it's not what I was referring to.
User avatar #37 - keatontheghostfox (12/12/2014) [-]
I started hallucinating as soon as I woke up before I even began to panic. The worst one was when I was in 5th grade, I woke up to find a dead body hanging from my ceiling. It's half decomposed with long grey hair. It lifts its head and stares at me, then lifts it's arms to reach for me while gasping my name. I blink and it's closer reaching for my neck and repeatedly gasping my name.
#32 - I have never achieved either sleep paralysis (though intending…  [+] (7 new replies) 12/12/2014 on Lucid Dreaming Failure 0
User avatar #34 - keatontheghostfox (12/12/2014) [-]
I've had sleep paralysis with hallucinations a couple times... not fun... not fun at all
User avatar #35 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
I think that's only because you get scared. Sleep paralysis is like dreaming while awake, and because you find yourself unable to move and nervous/paranoid, your hallucinations are based off of scary things, the same thing they would be if you went to sleep while scared.

However, if you were expecting or looking forward to it, it would be a much more positive and pleasurable experience.
User avatar #38 - digitalfruit (12/12/2014) [-]
I wouldn't say it like that, you make it sound like hallucinogenic drugs, when you are in the state it is unbearably uncomfortable in most cases, whether you expect it or not you will naturally feel paranoid and the want to get out of it.

Though, I have never had hallucinations with my open eyes during sleep paralysis so I don't know how different the experience is, although I wouldn't imagine too much.
User avatar #39 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
I've done research on the subject because I WANTED to get into it; everyone else who was able to reports positive experiences because they thought it was cool. It's literally just like a dream, just while awake: You have good thoughts, good things are seen, bad thoughts, bad things are seen, ect.
User avatar #40 - digitalfruit (12/12/2014) [-]
I just did some quick googling, I may be experiencing something some people call astral catalepsy instead.

Whenever I tried researching the phenomena that occurred to me I always just came up with sleep paralysis (searching "sleep paralysis but no hallucinations" just changed that...)

When it happens to me I'm basically aware that I am awake and there are my surroundings and noises but I can't move, it's hard to breathe, sounds like white noise is louder, and sometimes I get auditory hallucinations. Usually when I try to move it's like a force is acting against me and I have to push really hard to move at all, and when I finally snap out of it I find that I haven't moved at all.

Does this sound familiar to you?
User avatar #41 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
It rings a few bells, though it's not what I was referring to.
User avatar #37 - keatontheghostfox (12/12/2014) [-]
I started hallucinating as soon as I woke up before I even began to panic. The worst one was when I was in 5th grade, I woke up to find a dead body hanging from my ceiling. It's half decomposed with long grey hair. It lifts its head and stares at me, then lifts it's arms to reach for me while gasping my name. I blink and it's closer reaching for my neck and repeatedly gasping my name.
#97 - I concur, we should get this up and running and see if we can …  [+] (3 new replies) 12/12/2014 on Tumblr Mob vs Plebcomics +16
User avatar #102 - xtian (12/12/2014) [-]
I sent her a message on one of her accounts. I'd like her to set something up so there's no middle man.
User avatar #338 - fightforfate (12/12/2014) [-]
but if she set it up she would seem like a greedy pig who only wants money.
someone else has to do it
#677 - anonymous (12/12/2014) [-]
I'LL DO IT!!!
#23 - I said it on your other post and I'll say it on this one too: …  [+] (17 new replies) 12/12/2014 on How to get the gurl +44
#67 - brahdin (12/12/2014) [-]
because fuck pairings and ships, nothing gets in the way of the true hero who devotes themselves to the pursuit of their own goals. Shit just gets messy anyways and blinds you.
#66 - dxniel (12/12/2014) [-]
I'm glad I read this. I haven't watched the Korra avatar series, but I was thinking that I would probably hate it, because I thought they had made Korra a lesbian. Glad that's not the case.

Nothing against lesbian people, but the whole "gay-people-are-amazing" bandwagon that has been going on for the last 2 years or so is getting really annoying
#58 - anonymous (12/12/2014) [-]
Oh fuck off kill joy, let's giggle at imaginary lesbian couples and fap like theres no tomorrow too. Just for the fuck of it. Relax little nigga.
User avatar #64 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
Ah yes, I too like fapping to fictional romance. Oh wait, no I don't, that's what actual rule 34 is for.
User avatar #54 - elsanna (12/12/2014) [-]
>implying any shipping ever was based in reality and not just something done by fans because they like having fun

Bestamvsofalltime "Ship Happens" Anime MV || by Vivifx
User avatar #63 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
>Implying it's still not annoying as fuck
>Le 4chan me-me arrows
User avatar #76 - elsanna (12/22/2014) [-]
>calling them meme arrows

Can you newfag harder?
User avatar #77 - captainfuckitall (12/22/2014) [-]
I hope you're joking.
User avatar #53 - bloodeyes (12/12/2014) [-]
i has no friends, only you guys

and you seem kinda sexy...
User avatar #41 - infinitereaper (12/12/2014) [-]
Pretty much. After everything Korra actually becomes a very likable character. She goes from annoying to very human and relatable. There were also never any signs of her not being straight. I never really understood the Asami/Korra paring. I think part of it is beccause Asami is this really hot chick, if she was like, average looking this ship might be so shippy.
User avatar #40 - sportsmaniac (12/12/2014) [-]
Quite honestly the only reason I hope it happens is because I want to see if they have the balls to do it. Having the main character on a children's TV show turn out to be a lesbian is a pretty big deal no matter how you put it.
#38 - tastycrisps (12/12/2014) [-]
I know

But it's nice to imagine
#37 - Crisakapsycho (12/12/2014) [-]
I was just posting for the lols man, I didn't think it would get this popular.......here have a sexy Korra as an apology.
User avatar #36 - leonhardt (12/12/2014) [-]
It's like you have no idea who uses tumblr
User avatar #31 - curtisawesome (12/12/2014) [-]
Some of my best friends are pretty sexy. No homo.
#29 - pianoz (12/12/2014) [-]
User avatar #26 - Karlmarxx (12/12/2014) [-]
My nigga
#10 - Every single year when people ask me what I want for my birthd…  [+] (5 new replies) 12/12/2014 on Vidya gem 0
#18 - youxbarstard (12/12/2014) [-]
If you ask me what I want don't get me something other than that thing and then be sad/angry when I don't appreciate it because that is a dick move.
It would be better to get me nothing than to do that.
User avatar #17 - economicfreedom (12/12/2014) [-]
From an economic point of view you are correct, assuming the purpose is to maximize your utility from material items.

But isn't the tradition more than that?
User avatar #25 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
It is, but I'm trying to build up businesses and investments, and I can't do that with toys. I'll have the best traditional Christmases ever once I get money and revenue flowing.
User avatar #11 - jacobclabough (12/12/2014) [-]
well it doesnt matter if i wanted or needed it I just appreciate the time they took to buy it or make it or whatever it was. know it sounds corny as fuck but the thought truly is what counts. sorry they didnt get you your dragon dildo
#15 - anonymous (12/12/2014) [-]
If they are a close enough friend ill usually tell them not to buy me anything, since what i gain is from what they lose.

#68 - Honestly, I'm starting to hate the Korra/Asami pairing. It sta…  [+] (8 new replies) 12/12/2014 on For you baby, I might +13
User avatar #174 - Kairyuka (12/12/2014) [-]
The internet will ship EVERYTHING man. You cannot stop the ship train
#177 - rollfourexplain (12/12/2014) [-]
**rollfourexplain rolls 1,977**

Wrong. The internet will make porn of everything. Shipping isn't even all that popular compared to other common things people do with TV/movie/videogame/book plots.

WallMirror x MacRouter
User avatar #198 - Kairyuka (12/12/2014) [-]
I see you've never been to tumblr or deviantart
#167 - Lmaoplanes (12/12/2014) [-]
>2014
>not wanting to fuck all of your best friends
#149 - dudewitharake (12/12/2014) [-]
yeah, the shipping's a bit much at this point
#99 - doctorprofessornv (12/12/2014) [-]
Well the rant was a bit over the top, but I have to agree with you on this one.
Personally I don't think it would be all that progressive, it would just be perpetuating the 'all strong female characters are lesbos' stereotype. I see no reason for the paring to happen, to me they are just BFF's who are too busy with work to worry about romance.

But let's be honest, the Korra/Asami pairing was never about being faithful to the plot, it was about hot lesbian cartoon sex.
User avatar #77 - juter (12/12/2014) [-]
>Do you want to fuck all your best friends?

Yes. Yes, I do.
User avatar #74 - theghostrider (12/12/2014) [-]
b-but, MY DICK.
#45 - People aren't thumbing him down because he's wrong, they're do…  [+] (2 new replies) 12/11/2014 on wat +2
User avatar #124 - obviousxplains (12/12/2014) [-]
for what? pointing out something related to the content? On any given day he would have equal amounts of green thumbs. If his name was colorexplain he'd be top comment
User avatar #126 - captainfuckitall (12/12/2014) [-]
It's just the way he talks and considers himself an authority on the subject, and also flaunting knowledge where nobody asked for it just to soothe his ego (with the pink thing). When you see this kind of thing enough, it's very easy to tell what kind of personality these people have.

Indeed you are right, but his name isn't colourexplain, is it? He's not doing it for jokes, he's doing it because he wants to seem smarter
#64 - That's just it. It gets tiring (and so do his fanboys, for the… 12/11/2014 on Superhero weaknesses 0
#18 - Something tells me you're quite the pretentious cunt.  [+] (1 new reply) 12/11/2014 on wat +24
User avatar #59 - lordmandy (12/12/2014) [-]
that something is obviousness
#49 - Oh look at all those angry Batman fans 12/11/2014 on Constantine is great 0
#43 - Just how he's portrayed. In every Batman Vs. *Anyone else* sce…  [+] (2 new replies) 12/11/2014 on Superhero weaknesses 0
#60 - anonymous (12/11/2014) [-]
well, he is goddamn Batman after all
User avatar #64 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
That's just it. It gets tiring (and so do his fanboys, for the record).
#30 - It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at thi… 12/11/2014 on Constantine is great 0
#29 - Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their act…  [+] (1 new reply) 12/11/2014 on Constantine is great 0
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
#26 - Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is li…  [+] (4 new replies) 12/11/2014 on Constantine is great 0
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
#24 - Possibly because Sinestro as one of the only people who not on…  [+] (6 new replies) 12/11/2014 on Constantine is great 0
User avatar #25 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy."

TL;DR - He became a "Messiah figure". Super-heroes were never supposed to be that.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is like saying "I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, but you have to listen to what I say".
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
#22 - I don't know the circumstances to that either; however, if it …  [+] (8 new replies) 12/11/2014 on Constantine is great 0
User avatar #23 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Dude, let's face it - Supes was so far gone after Louis & Metropolis happened, he was more willing to listen to Sinestro than the ones actually close to him.

He DID suffer from a God complex - because all of a sudden he started thinking that he should protect ALL and intervene personally, robbing humanity basically of Free Will.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Possibly because Sinestro as one of the only people who not only understood his plight and views, but sympathized with them; rather than his, I don't know, best friend Batman whom he loved like a brother while I have never once, in any medium, see Batman appreciate anything Clark did for him.

It's no mistake that Superman was in a very dark and fragile place for most of the comic. And you're not wrong in saying that he jumped guns and was over-emotional. But at the end of the day, he was still Superman, and he still had friends he loved and trusted and most of them turned their backs on him during times when he needed it most. He lost a wife, child, and the rebirth of his face due to the indirect actions of his best friend; yet he still cared for him and respected him while Bruce didn't give the tiniest bit of sympathy. Bruce lost his adopted son because his real son made a mistake, and holy fucking shit stop the whole god-damn world Batman's SAD AND NEEDS EVERYONE'S HELP IN THIS AWFUL TIME OF NEED OH NOEEZZSZZ!!! Oh yeah, and then he punched Superman in the face and Superman was still only concerned about his hand. It's bullshit, absolute bullshit.

He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy. Literally the only people that ever disliked his plan were: 1. People who WANTED wars and crimes against humanity. And 2. People who were intimidated by Batman and his goons to act against Superman.
User avatar #25 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy."

TL;DR - He became a "Messiah figure". Super-heroes were never supposed to be that.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is like saying "I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, but you have to listen to what I say".
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
#22 - It gets kind of tiring, Batman being always right, honestly...  [+] (4 new replies) 12/11/2014 on Superhero weaknesses +3
#35 - anonymous (12/11/2014) [-]
name one instance
User avatar #43 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Just how he's portrayed. In every Batman Vs. *Anyone else* scenario, he always holds either the moral or moral/logical highground. In every Batman helps *Anyone else* scenario, he's always the one who has the plan and has it always work out no matter what other plans are in effect (and, of course, always makes sure everyone knows that). In every Batman scenario in GENERAL, he's always the one who must have the most broods, most feels, most intelligent plans, best back-up plans, most right/righteous, so on, so fourth; he's a complete Mary Sue with so much plot armour up the ass you could see it coming out of his mouth.

You want an instance? How about literally the entire Injustice comic. How about half of the Justice League: Animated Series. How about any situation with him and Superman or Wonder Woman (or any other superhero for that matter). It's not that hard when literally his entire comic career is made up of how right he is all the time.
#60 - anonymous (12/11/2014) [-]
well, he is goddamn Batman after all
User avatar #64 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
That's just it. It gets tiring (and so do his fanboys, for the record).
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User avatar #21 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across"

That's just it - there's a very thin line between being a guardian and being a babysitter of sorts.

Then do please tell me how do you explain that the Green Lantern Corps applied the EXACT same principle - and allowed Krypton to succumb to its faith?
User avatar #22 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
I don't know the circumstances to that either; however, if it was absolutely necessary that Krypton die, then they were right to let it happen, but that doesn't mean Clarke has no right to be angry. Again, if it was just something solved through talking and Diplomacy (perhaps by listening to Hal Jordan), given a bit of time, and met on Superman's terms, it is almost guaranteed that it could have been solved without incident and perhaps even understanding on Clark's part; rather than them just barging into his world and placing him under arrest for whatever trumped up crimes.
User avatar #23 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Dude, let's face it - Supes was so far gone after Louis & Metropolis happened, he was more willing to listen to Sinestro than the ones actually close to him.

He DID suffer from a God complex - because all of a sudden he started thinking that he should protect ALL and intervene personally, robbing humanity basically of Free Will.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Possibly because Sinestro as one of the only people who not only understood his plight and views, but sympathized with them; rather than his, I don't know, best friend Batman whom he loved like a brother while I have never once, in any medium, see Batman appreciate anything Clark did for him.

It's no mistake that Superman was in a very dark and fragile place for most of the comic. And you're not wrong in saying that he jumped guns and was over-emotional. But at the end of the day, he was still Superman, and he still had friends he loved and trusted and most of them turned their backs on him during times when he needed it most. He lost a wife, child, and the rebirth of his face due to the indirect actions of his best friend; yet he still cared for him and respected him while Bruce didn't give the tiniest bit of sympathy. Bruce lost his adopted son because his real son made a mistake, and holy fucking shit stop the whole god-damn world Batman's SAD AND NEEDS EVERYONE'S HELP IN THIS AWFUL TIME OF NEED OH NOEEZZSZZ!!! Oh yeah, and then he punched Superman in the face and Superman was still only concerned about his hand. It's bullshit, absolute bullshit.

He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy. Literally the only people that ever disliked his plan were: 1. People who WANTED wars and crimes against humanity. And 2. People who were intimidated by Batman and his goons to act against Superman.
User avatar #25 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy."

TL;DR - He became a "Messiah figure". Super-heroes were never supposed to be that.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is like saying "I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, but you have to listen to what I say".
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
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User avatar #19 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Yes he could have done all that. He could have eliminated criminals.

Except that right then would have been the moment he would have stepped out of his super-hero boundaries. Super-heroes are meant to STOP criminals. No more, no less.

" It escalates out of control because OTHER people don't think straight and force his hand"

Really? Like when he beat Ollie Quinn to a bloody pulp because one of the arrows ricocheted off Superman in Jonathan Kent?
Because his parents WEREN'T thinking straight when they told him to control himself and realize what he's doing.

Yes, Batman may look like a cynical bastard in all that he is doing... but the fact is that he is right. He is hell bent on doing the RIGHT thing, no matter the cost.

If you actually stop to think about it, THAT is the Ultimate Freedom/Liberty, which he struggles to protect. Isn't that the American ideal, after all?

P.S.: I also bet you don't have anything against the "minimal intervention" policy of the Trade Federation in Star Trek...
User avatar #20 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
But...he doesn't. We just went over this. Comment #14

Yes, because Ollie knew the arrow wouldn't have hurt him and chose to shoot at him anyways; while prior to that, Superman not only didn't see him as a threat, but saw no problem with him being in his fortress or by his parents. He trusted Ollie, and by shooting at him (and ending up hurting his father) be betrayed that trust. Again, much like Batman, Clarke had a lot of respect for Ollie and understood he was the most righteous among them, if Green Arrow had just talked to him or 'distracted' him in a different way (as if you could distract a man who can perceive faster than you can blink), not only could violence have been entirely avoided, but something might have gotten through for Superman; with his parents, his real father, and Ollie all there trying to talk with him and help him out. Prior to stealing his formula, and even mostly after, Clarke never saw the 'rebels' as his enemies, he only ever saw them as misguided and would never hurt them unless they goaded or threatened him, just like everyone else.

No he's not. In the rare times when plot armour ISN'T shoved so far up his ass that it comes out of his mouth, whenever he has had to choose between saving the life of a friend by killing someone, he has always let them die. Batman would let the entire world turn to Nuclear Ash if the person doing it 'knew' Batman never broke his 1 rule. That's not the behaviour of a superhero, but a sociopath.

No, because you and me have different ideals of what the 'right' thing is and what Liberty means. To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across; if someone had the option to do that and chose not to and just pat my back explaining "Well you see, it's about personal freedom..." that just wouldn't cut it.

I've never watched Star Trek, though I probably would, depending on the circumstances.
User avatar #21 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across"

That's just it - there's a very thin line between being a guardian and being a babysitter of sorts.

Then do please tell me how do you explain that the Green Lantern Corps applied the EXACT same principle - and allowed Krypton to succumb to its faith?
User avatar #22 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
I don't know the circumstances to that either; however, if it was absolutely necessary that Krypton die, then they were right to let it happen, but that doesn't mean Clarke has no right to be angry. Again, if it was just something solved through talking and Diplomacy (perhaps by listening to Hal Jordan), given a bit of time, and met on Superman's terms, it is almost guaranteed that it could have been solved without incident and perhaps even understanding on Clark's part; rather than them just barging into his world and placing him under arrest for whatever trumped up crimes.
User avatar #23 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Dude, let's face it - Supes was so far gone after Louis & Metropolis happened, he was more willing to listen to Sinestro than the ones actually close to him.

He DID suffer from a God complex - because all of a sudden he started thinking that he should protect ALL and intervene personally, robbing humanity basically of Free Will.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Possibly because Sinestro as one of the only people who not only understood his plight and views, but sympathized with them; rather than his, I don't know, best friend Batman whom he loved like a brother while I have never once, in any medium, see Batman appreciate anything Clark did for him.

It's no mistake that Superman was in a very dark and fragile place for most of the comic. And you're not wrong in saying that he jumped guns and was over-emotional. But at the end of the day, he was still Superman, and he still had friends he loved and trusted and most of them turned their backs on him during times when he needed it most. He lost a wife, child, and the rebirth of his face due to the indirect actions of his best friend; yet he still cared for him and respected him while Bruce didn't give the tiniest bit of sympathy. Bruce lost his adopted son because his real son made a mistake, and holy fucking shit stop the whole god-damn world Batman's SAD AND NEEDS EVERYONE'S HELP IN THIS AWFUL TIME OF NEED OH NOEEZZSZZ!!! Oh yeah, and then he punched Superman in the face and Superman was still only concerned about his hand. It's bullshit, absolute bullshit.

He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy. Literally the only people that ever disliked his plan were: 1. People who WANTED wars and crimes against humanity. And 2. People who were intimidated by Batman and his goons to act against Superman.
User avatar #25 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy."

TL;DR - He became a "Messiah figure". Super-heroes were never supposed to be that.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is like saying "I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, but you have to listen to what I say".
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
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User avatar #17 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
He wasn't upset about killing the invaders per se.

But about the decision to take thousands or hundreds of thousands of lives, be it the lives of aliens invaders, in a split-second. By one being.

Also, he is not more concerned about the lives of criminals than the lives of civilians or close ones.
He is solely concerned about personal freedom. He is basically the ultimate conservative, the type of person with the belief that in the end, everything regulates itself, as long as you don't intervene over your boundaries.

Also, if you really want to blame someone for what happened to Superman, look no further than Supes himself.
For one of the smartest beings in existence, he sure as hell is portrayed as a "punch first, think after" fellow. If he'd actually STOP TO THINK what the hell would Darkseid (or whoever he thought Louis was) was doing in Joker's submarine, MAYBE all of that shit wouldn't have happened.

The results of Injustice: Gods Among Us are basically due to Superman jumping into action without much thought. If at all.
User avatar #18 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
So him griping about the "Millions dead" rather than celebrating the billions of lives SAVED from Clark's actions, that's not upset?

A split second that saved billions of lives, yes. I just can't understand how you can support a superhero who would literally allow people to die JUST so he can also save the people killing them. I don't get it. That's like police waiting for a mass-murderer to run out of bullets used to kill people so they can go and arrest him with non-lethal force.

No he isn't. He has bugged, rigged, hacked, spied on, trespassed, stolen, committed fraud, purgery, extortion, and strong-arming all for the sake of having absolute control over everyone and everything around him (although he only, of course, does this to friends. Never enemies. That would be immoral).

I'm sure if he explained those beliefs to all the families of the people his villains murdered, they would be totally cool and understanding about it. Oh wait...

Probably, but he also wasn't thinking right in the first place. You imagine yourself as a smart fellow, I'm sure; but do you think logically when you feel the lives of your loved ones are in danger? Or when you hear any sort of gut-wrenching news? Not to mention the fact that he finally wouldn't be alone anymore and would have a member of his own race around with him, an added punch to losing his wife and child.

Yet he only did that once with the imagined Darkseid. If you read the comic over, literally every drastic action Clarke takes is a REACTION to something someone did to him, his friends, or family. It escalates out of control because OTHER people don't think straight and force his hand, and he just realized its much easier to blow up his enemies than try to convince them to see his side of things; something I'm sure you'd agree with too if the philosophy of 'play nice-nice' got your wife and child killed.
User avatar #19 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Yes he could have done all that. He could have eliminated criminals.

Except that right then would have been the moment he would have stepped out of his super-hero boundaries. Super-heroes are meant to STOP criminals. No more, no less.

" It escalates out of control because OTHER people don't think straight and force his hand"

Really? Like when he beat Ollie Quinn to a bloody pulp because one of the arrows ricocheted off Superman in Jonathan Kent?
Because his parents WEREN'T thinking straight when they told him to control himself and realize what he's doing.

Yes, Batman may look like a cynical bastard in all that he is doing... but the fact is that he is right. He is hell bent on doing the RIGHT thing, no matter the cost.

If you actually stop to think about it, THAT is the Ultimate Freedom/Liberty, which he struggles to protect. Isn't that the American ideal, after all?

P.S.: I also bet you don't have anything against the "minimal intervention" policy of the Trade Federation in Star Trek...
User avatar #20 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
But...he doesn't. We just went over this. Comment #14

Yes, because Ollie knew the arrow wouldn't have hurt him and chose to shoot at him anyways; while prior to that, Superman not only didn't see him as a threat, but saw no problem with him being in his fortress or by his parents. He trusted Ollie, and by shooting at him (and ending up hurting his father) be betrayed that trust. Again, much like Batman, Clarke had a lot of respect for Ollie and understood he was the most righteous among them, if Green Arrow had just talked to him or 'distracted' him in a different way (as if you could distract a man who can perceive faster than you can blink), not only could violence have been entirely avoided, but something might have gotten through for Superman; with his parents, his real father, and Ollie all there trying to talk with him and help him out. Prior to stealing his formula, and even mostly after, Clarke never saw the 'rebels' as his enemies, he only ever saw them as misguided and would never hurt them unless they goaded or threatened him, just like everyone else.

No he's not. In the rare times when plot armour ISN'T shoved so far up his ass that it comes out of his mouth, whenever he has had to choose between saving the life of a friend by killing someone, he has always let them die. Batman would let the entire world turn to Nuclear Ash if the person doing it 'knew' Batman never broke his 1 rule. That's not the behaviour of a superhero, but a sociopath.

No, because you and me have different ideals of what the 'right' thing is and what Liberty means. To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across; if someone had the option to do that and chose not to and just pat my back explaining "Well you see, it's about personal freedom..." that just wouldn't cut it.

I've never watched Star Trek, though I probably would, depending on the circumstances.
User avatar #21 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across"

That's just it - there's a very thin line between being a guardian and being a babysitter of sorts.

Then do please tell me how do you explain that the Green Lantern Corps applied the EXACT same principle - and allowed Krypton to succumb to its faith?
User avatar #22 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
I don't know the circumstances to that either; however, if it was absolutely necessary that Krypton die, then they were right to let it happen, but that doesn't mean Clarke has no right to be angry. Again, if it was just something solved through talking and Diplomacy (perhaps by listening to Hal Jordan), given a bit of time, and met on Superman's terms, it is almost guaranteed that it could have been solved without incident and perhaps even understanding on Clark's part; rather than them just barging into his world and placing him under arrest for whatever trumped up crimes.
User avatar #23 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Dude, let's face it - Supes was so far gone after Louis & Metropolis happened, he was more willing to listen to Sinestro than the ones actually close to him.

He DID suffer from a God complex - because all of a sudden he started thinking that he should protect ALL and intervene personally, robbing humanity basically of Free Will.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Possibly because Sinestro as one of the only people who not only understood his plight and views, but sympathized with them; rather than his, I don't know, best friend Batman whom he loved like a brother while I have never once, in any medium, see Batman appreciate anything Clark did for him.

It's no mistake that Superman was in a very dark and fragile place for most of the comic. And you're not wrong in saying that he jumped guns and was over-emotional. But at the end of the day, he was still Superman, and he still had friends he loved and trusted and most of them turned their backs on him during times when he needed it most. He lost a wife, child, and the rebirth of his face due to the indirect actions of his best friend; yet he still cared for him and respected him while Bruce didn't give the tiniest bit of sympathy. Bruce lost his adopted son because his real son made a mistake, and holy fucking shit stop the whole god-damn world Batman's SAD AND NEEDS EVERYONE'S HELP IN THIS AWFUL TIME OF NEED OH NOEEZZSZZ!!! Oh yeah, and then he punched Superman in the face and Superman was still only concerned about his hand. It's bullshit, absolute bullshit.

He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy. Literally the only people that ever disliked his plan were: 1. People who WANTED wars and crimes against humanity. And 2. People who were intimidated by Batman and his goons to act against Superman.
User avatar #25 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy."

TL;DR - He became a "Messiah figure". Super-heroes were never supposed to be that.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is like saying "I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, but you have to listen to what I say".
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.
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User avatar #15 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
How in the actual fuck is it Batman's fault?!?

Superheroes are NOT judges or juries. THAT is the whole point behind Batman's philosophy.
You want to blame someone?! Blame the goddamn judicial system that doesn't put bat-shit loonies like the Joker under the death penalty.
User avatar #16 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
See comment #14

Indeed they aren't, but you'd also think he would be more concerned over the safety of his companions (or literally anyone else for that matter) over the life of said psychotic villain. Newsflash: He isn't. He has proven many times he is more concerned with the lives of those he fights every day than the lives of the innocent people they threaten (also proved in Injustice where, when the aliens invaded and started slaughtering thousands of innocent men, women, and children BECAUSE they were more peaceful; he was legitimately upset about Clarke killing them).

I blame that too.
User avatar #17 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
He wasn't upset about killing the invaders per se.

But about the decision to take thousands or hundreds of thousands of lives, be it the lives of aliens invaders, in a split-second. By one being.

Also, he is not more concerned about the lives of criminals than the lives of civilians or close ones.
He is solely concerned about personal freedom. He is basically the ultimate conservative, the type of person with the belief that in the end, everything regulates itself, as long as you don't intervene over your boundaries.

Also, if you really want to blame someone for what happened to Superman, look no further than Supes himself.
For one of the smartest beings in existence, he sure as hell is portrayed as a "punch first, think after" fellow. If he'd actually STOP TO THINK what the hell would Darkseid (or whoever he thought Louis was) was doing in Joker's submarine, MAYBE all of that shit wouldn't have happened.

The results of Injustice: Gods Among Us are basically due to Superman jumping into action without much thought. If at all.
User avatar #18 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
So him griping about the "Millions dead" rather than celebrating the billions of lives SAVED from Clark's actions, that's not upset?

A split second that saved billions of lives, yes. I just can't understand how you can support a superhero who would literally allow people to die JUST so he can also save the people killing them. I don't get it. That's like police waiting for a mass-murderer to run out of bullets used to kill people so they can go and arrest him with non-lethal force.

No he isn't. He has bugged, rigged, hacked, spied on, trespassed, stolen, committed fraud, purgery, extortion, and strong-arming all for the sake of having absolute control over everyone and everything around him (although he only, of course, does this to friends. Never enemies. That would be immoral).

I'm sure if he explained those beliefs to all the families of the people his villains murdered, they would be totally cool and understanding about it. Oh wait...

Probably, but he also wasn't thinking right in the first place. You imagine yourself as a smart fellow, I'm sure; but do you think logically when you feel the lives of your loved ones are in danger? Or when you hear any sort of gut-wrenching news? Not to mention the fact that he finally wouldn't be alone anymore and would have a member of his own race around with him, an added punch to losing his wife and child.

Yet he only did that once with the imagined Darkseid. If you read the comic over, literally every drastic action Clarke takes is a REACTION to something someone did to him, his friends, or family. It escalates out of control because OTHER people don't think straight and force his hand, and he just realized its much easier to blow up his enemies than try to convince them to see his side of things; something I'm sure you'd agree with too if the philosophy of 'play nice-nice' got your wife and child killed.
User avatar #19 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Yes he could have done all that. He could have eliminated criminals.

Except that right then would have been the moment he would have stepped out of his super-hero boundaries. Super-heroes are meant to STOP criminals. No more, no less.

" It escalates out of control because OTHER people don't think straight and force his hand"

Really? Like when he beat Ollie Quinn to a bloody pulp because one of the arrows ricocheted off Superman in Jonathan Kent?
Because his parents WEREN'T thinking straight when they told him to control himself and realize what he's doing.

Yes, Batman may look like a cynical bastard in all that he is doing... but the fact is that he is right. He is hell bent on doing the RIGHT thing, no matter the cost.

If you actually stop to think about it, THAT is the Ultimate Freedom/Liberty, which he struggles to protect. Isn't that the American ideal, after all?

P.S.: I also bet you don't have anything against the "minimal intervention" policy of the Trade Federation in Star Trek...
User avatar #20 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
But...he doesn't. We just went over this. Comment #14

Yes, because Ollie knew the arrow wouldn't have hurt him and chose to shoot at him anyways; while prior to that, Superman not only didn't see him as a threat, but saw no problem with him being in his fortress or by his parents. He trusted Ollie, and by shooting at him (and ending up hurting his father) be betrayed that trust. Again, much like Batman, Clarke had a lot of respect for Ollie and understood he was the most righteous among them, if Green Arrow had just talked to him or 'distracted' him in a different way (as if you could distract a man who can perceive faster than you can blink), not only could violence have been entirely avoided, but something might have gotten through for Superman; with his parents, his real father, and Ollie all there trying to talk with him and help him out. Prior to stealing his formula, and even mostly after, Clarke never saw the 'rebels' as his enemies, he only ever saw them as misguided and would never hurt them unless they goaded or threatened him, just like everyone else.

No he's not. In the rare times when plot armour ISN'T shoved so far up his ass that it comes out of his mouth, whenever he has had to choose between saving the life of a friend by killing someone, he has always let them die. Batman would let the entire world turn to Nuclear Ash if the person doing it 'knew' Batman never broke his 1 rule. That's not the behaviour of a superhero, but a sociopath.

No, because you and me have different ideals of what the 'right' thing is and what Liberty means. To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across; if someone had the option to do that and chose not to and just pat my back explaining "Well you see, it's about personal freedom..." that just wouldn't cut it.

I've never watched Star Trek, though I probably would, depending on the circumstances.
User avatar #21 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"To me, it means I will do what I must to protect myself, my loved ones, and humanity as a whole from whatever threat it comes across"

That's just it - there's a very thin line between being a guardian and being a babysitter of sorts.

Then do please tell me how do you explain that the Green Lantern Corps applied the EXACT same principle - and allowed Krypton to succumb to its faith?
User avatar #22 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
I don't know the circumstances to that either; however, if it was absolutely necessary that Krypton die, then they were right to let it happen, but that doesn't mean Clarke has no right to be angry. Again, if it was just something solved through talking and Diplomacy (perhaps by listening to Hal Jordan), given a bit of time, and met on Superman's terms, it is almost guaranteed that it could have been solved without incident and perhaps even understanding on Clark's part; rather than them just barging into his world and placing him under arrest for whatever trumped up crimes.
User avatar #23 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
Dude, let's face it - Supes was so far gone after Louis & Metropolis happened, he was more willing to listen to Sinestro than the ones actually close to him.

He DID suffer from a God complex - because all of a sudden he started thinking that he should protect ALL and intervene personally, robbing humanity basically of Free Will.
User avatar #24 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Possibly because Sinestro as one of the only people who not only understood his plight and views, but sympathized with them; rather than his, I don't know, best friend Batman whom he loved like a brother while I have never once, in any medium, see Batman appreciate anything Clark did for him.

It's no mistake that Superman was in a very dark and fragile place for most of the comic. And you're not wrong in saying that he jumped guns and was over-emotional. But at the end of the day, he was still Superman, and he still had friends he loved and trusted and most of them turned their backs on him during times when he needed it most. He lost a wife, child, and the rebirth of his face due to the indirect actions of his best friend; yet he still cared for him and respected him while Bruce didn't give the tiniest bit of sympathy. Bruce lost his adopted son because his real son made a mistake, and holy fucking shit stop the whole god-damn world Batman's SAD AND NEEDS EVERYONE'S HELP IN THIS AWFUL TIME OF NEED OH NOEEZZSZZ!!! Oh yeah, and then he punched Superman in the face and Superman was still only concerned about his hand. It's bullshit, absolute bullshit.

He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy. Literally the only people that ever disliked his plan were: 1. People who WANTED wars and crimes against humanity. And 2. People who were intimidated by Batman and his goons to act against Superman.
User avatar #25 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
"He didn't rob anyone of free-will, nobody was prevented from doing their day to day activities, all that was prevented was war and crimes against humanity. I'm pretty sure that the people who suffered DUE to those war and crimes against humanity didn't do so to their "free will" and were pretty greatful when Superman intervened. It became a near perfect world, and could have been absolutely perfect if his friends had tried guiding him rather than telling him he was crazy."

TL;DR - He became a "Messiah figure". Super-heroes were never supposed to be that.
User avatar #26 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Saying TL;DR to my argument but still including your own is like saying "I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, but you have to listen to what I say".
User avatar #28 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
It's because all that justification is literally moot - all you have to do to get a glimpse on why it's wrong to act like a God just because you can do it is read the chapter where Wonder Bitch helps some Muslim women or something from a war-torn land against the soldiers ruling said land.
She offered the women the soldiers' guns - you'd think that it's a nice twist, right?
Yeah, except the fact that the women create a massacre in their desire to have revenge on the men dominating them for dozens of years.

THAT is why you let shit regulate itself. Batman is aware of all this - and he also knows he's just a mere human. He can figure out how much shit would hit the fan if someone normal, like him, would start literally soldiering the world and acting as judge, jury & executioner - let alone someone with god-like powers like Superman.

THAT is why he deems personal freedom in such high regard.
User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
It's alright if you don't want to continue the argument at this point, I don't either. You've won anyways, no matter what I say or bring up, Batman fans are just going to strut in and shit all over my argument and thumb you up. It always happens; his fans are literally the worst part of the character as they treat him like a bigger god that Superman.

For the record, you and I also both know damn well that if the characters were reversed and it was Batman opting for a better, totalitarian world; you would be defending his views all the same. The only difference is, so would I.
User avatar #29 - captainfuckitall (12/11/2014) [-]
Really? Cause I would call people being punished for their actions "Justice". It's no different than someone mugging you and stabbing you every day as you walked down the street, and then actually taking the offer to mug and stab them back when it's presented to you. Being told "No, you can't, because it's not right" by some trumped up hero or another is only patronizing.

That's funny, because he really did start trying to soldier the world himself, just AGAINST Superman. Besides, once again, letting a raging psychopath blow up a city isn't 'self regulation' it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself. It would be one thing if he just didn't kill himself, but he prevents others from doing it and potentially saving more lives in the long run as well; so where was all that Liberty and personal freedom you said he stood for?
User avatar #33 - tkfourtwoone (12/11/2014) [-]
You apparently can't really make the difference between "justice" and "vendetta/revenge".

"it's just neglect of an issue because you are unable or unwilling to face it yourself" - I'm sorry, but the Bat apprehended Joker so many times.
But do please tell me how much is it his fault that he breaks free over and over again. According to you, Batman should also step up as the Warden in Arkham Asylum and start to cater it, just to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Once again - superheroes are supposed to be Guardians. Not Babysitters.

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#492 - miia ONLINE (12/13/2014) [-]
User avatar #494 to #492 - captainfuckitall (12/13/2014) [-]
Well aren't you a sweetheart for helping me get over my fear
#495 to #494 - miia ONLINE (12/13/2014) [-]
im actually about to go to bed but hi
User avatar #496 to #495 - captainfuckitall (12/13/2014) [-]
Well don't let me keep you. Hi back, and feel free to continue the conversation any time.
User avatar #490 - commencingfailure (09/30/2014) [-]
******* retard compares the IS to today's feminists. One could say ignorance is an everspreading cancer, you did your job to increase the spread.
User avatar #491 to #490 - captainfuckitall (09/30/2014) [-]
You seem REALLY mad, friend. Perhaps you should calm down and take some ass ointment before you need to see a doctor
User avatar #489 - myfourthaccount (07/18/2014) [-]
dude, you're like my most favorite person on earth right now haha
User avatar #487 - imvlad (05/04/2014) [-]
you brought shame to your house
User avatar #483 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Have you by chance had an older account here before?
User avatar #484 to #483 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
Yes I have. My first username was Hiimquinn, but it was deleted for some reason I never found, so I just made another.
#485 to #484 - aerosol (04/22/2014) [-]
Oh. Never mind then. I saw someone call you Dave and I mistook you for someone else.
User avatar #486 to #485 - captainfuckitall (04/22/2014) [-]
It's fine. It was a joke from a picture a while back where a man was looking out the window and saw a dog and his owner walking down the street. The dog barked at another, bigger dog, and his owner just turned and said "See, this is why you have no ******* mates, Dave".
User avatar #481 - iforgotmyothername (03/20/2014) [-]
you are one cool tempered potato compared to me, bringing my fury upon your wrongness. i salute you, and thumbed up all your comments in the a capella debate.
User avatar #482 to #481 - captainfuckitall (03/20/2014) [-]
It's alright, I apologize for making you upset, but you don't need to thumb my posts up. Thumbs are a way to express positivity or negativity toward any type of comments; if you do not like them, it is perfectly within your right to thumb them down.
User avatar #474 - aherorising ONLINE (11/20/2013) [-]
you're a really cool bro
#471 - shiifter (10/06/2013) [-]
This still makes me giggle.

Oh and by the way, i never actually thumbed you down. I just said that i did.
User avatar #472 to #471 - captainfuckitall (10/06/2013) [-]
The thing is, the way I found OUT you gave me those thumbs was because of the question mark, which allows people to see who voted on content. I could only KNOW it was you if you had thumbed them down, which you did.

And now you not only prove to be an idiot, but a liar as well.
#473 to #472 - shiifter (10/12/2013) [-]
Wait? You still remembered that? That's hilarious.

By the way, i screencapped this. it's like a trophy.
User avatar #468 - satrenkotheone ONLINE (09/22/2013) [-]
I would just like to say thank you.
#466 - anonymous (08/25/2013) [-]
Due to your pointlessly rude comment on the post "Jesus ain't got time for **** ",

I have gone through 20 of your previous comments and thumbed them all down.

You're also a stupid, unfunny, tryhard feelfag. Exactly the kind of user that this site is infamous for.
User avatar #467 to #466 - captainfuckitall (08/25/2013) [-]
I wasn't pointlessly rude. If you read it more carefully, you would find I am not insulting your god or faith, but rather, the people who spread it about; and even they are just doing it to themselves, while I am mearly making an observation

It's ironic you call me tryhard, considering you just went through the time to thumb-down my last 20 comments as if it would have any effect on me personally or my ranking here. It's also odd you call me stupid, considering you were the one who read it uncorrectly. And I think the fact I have so many comment thumbs anyways (including my own jesus comment) speaks to the point that I am, in fact, quite hilarious. "Feelfag", is that supposed to be a derogatory term for someone who is passionate about certain things? If so, then I take pride in it, as it is only through passion that things grow.

Considering you are pretentious, arrogant, immature, and without a sense of humour; you fit the criteria for '12 year old funnyjunker' far better than I do.
#463 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.   
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.   
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.   
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
Hey, I would just like to say thank you for telling me to get an account.
Yea I know, odd thing to give thanks for when I could have gotten one easily but then again, I was a dumb bastard then and could not think very well.
I notice your comments from time to time and get some good knowledge off of them, mainly the Lovecraft related ones.
But like I said, thank you very much and continue to be awesome.
User avatar #464 to #463 - captainfuckitall (07/16/2013) [-]
You are just a wonderful person, you know that? Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciation, and I'm glad you have made an account and made many friends here, including myself
#465 to #464 - captainspankmonkey (07/16/2013) [-]
You're welcome, good sir.
You're welcome, good sir.
User avatar #461 - potgardener (06/01/2013) [-]
youre pretty ****** in the head if beating a kid is a good idea, parents would need to hit their kids if they taught them what was right and wrong from the beginning
User avatar #462 to #461 - captainfuckitall (06/01/2013) [-]
It's ironic how you talk about avoiding situations, when your very comment isn't needed considering I already explained, about five times now, that I do not mean you must 'abuse' your children in order to get good results. My comment, and all the comments afterwards, were about how when compassion and support fails you must turn to punishment and discipline, including simply smacking your kid upside the head

Perhaps you should read more and get better informed before jumping to opinions, yes?
#459 - bossdelainternet (05/11/2013) [-]
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest  threads i've seen this year.   
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...   
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
I'd just like to say thank you for created one of the funniest threads i've seen this year.
To sum up why i thought it was so funny, a quote...
"Most people would say 'I lost. I give up.', but you, you just keep trying. You're like the Dominican Republic, always killing the guy in charge and saying 'Ah, this new guy, this new guy's gonna get it right!'." - Family Guy
User avatar #460 to #459 - captainfuckitall (05/11/2013) [-]
I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult

I choose the former

Thank you, good sir
#453 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
I just thought I'd let you know that I just did an awful thing and quoted your majestic deep words of death wisdom onto my facebook. I gave you credit, but as part of my shame for stealing I thought I'd tell you. That was honestly one of the best things I've ever read.

Which is also why I screencapped it. Don't worry I swear I'm not going to try to get to frontpage with it I just wanted to save it.
User avatar #454 to #453 - captainfuckitall (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all, I am not concerned with thumbs in the least. If you would like to post it, by all means do so, if you'd like to take credit, do so as well; I care not for material value or fame, as long as comprehend and understand the message
#455 to #454 - WhattheNorris (11/12/2012) [-]
Oh man you just keep getting better:)    
   
But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
Oh man you just keep getting better:)

But I wouldn't dare steal your credit.
#449 - captainspankmonkey (02/27/2012) [-]
Internet problems
That is why :P
User avatar #450 to #460 - captainfuckitall (02/27/2012) [-]
ahhh, haha, sorry then :P
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