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|#76 - they fought for the right to own slaves... [+] (14 new replies)||06/28/2013 on Alternate usage of AC||+9|
#85 - anonymous (06/28/2013) [-]
That was only a small part of it you dumbass. The federal government was going stop the south from having slaves. The south said fuck that shit and seceded from the union. The north was already economically raping the south with taxes.
Also, if the war was only about slaves, then why did four slave states fight on the union side?
#83 - anonymous (06/28/2013) [-]
No they didn't. Abraham Lincoln was originally for the right to own slaves
#151 - coolcalx (06/28/2013) [-]
no, it was mainly about slavery, bub. I'm from the south, and history classes like to teach apologetic history so that we seem better, but the truth of the matter is that almost all of the problems that split the North and South were due to slavery.
the South was fighting about their constitutional "State's rights." their right to own slaves.
to claim that the Civil War wasn't about slavery is completely naive at best. Slavery was the very backbone of the American Civil War.
#178 - bluedwarf (06/28/2013) [-]
Two years later, President Lincoln wrote: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union (Letter to Horace Greeley, August 22, 1862)."
And in 1858 Lincoln had written: "I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. There is a physical difference between the white and black races, which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality." So, to say he wanted to free the slaves for moral reasons (The Great Emancipator), would be a mistake. In fact, Lincoln was not that different with his views than his contemporaries. Keeping in mind the culture of the 1860's, it seems that the act of freeing slaves in Confederate states was a strategic political move by a man trying his best to put an end to the slaughter of Americans, by Americans.
I was about to write this but then I found this link that explains it better then I would have:
You can trace all the quotes for their legitimacy if you doubt it
#182 - coolcalx (06/28/2013) [-]
Abraham Lincoln was adamantly against slavery. he found it morally disgusting from the first time he saw it when he went to New Orleans. he drove a steam boat down the Mississippi river to deliver goods to N.O. and watched a slave auction. from then on, he was disgusted by the enslavement of the Negroes.
however, he knew how politics worked.
his goal was to preserve the Union and fix the slavery situation through political process rather than military conquest.
but seriously think about the following: if Lincoln didn't really care about abolishing slavery, then why did he so strongly support the passing of the 13th amendment while the Civil War was still going on? the correct political move was to negotiate peace, but he instead went all-out for the abolishment of slavery.
the contemporary viewpoint of the time was split. it was literally half and half in the US. Lincoln WAS one of the people who hated slavery. did he think blacks and whites were equal? not likely. very few people did. did he personally want to end slavery? of course he did, as is evident in his endorsement of the 13th amendment while still fighting against the South, and even during talks of peace negotiations at the time.
instead of ending the Civil War, Lincoln specifically chose to pass the 13th amendment to abolish slavery.
#222 - anonymous (06/28/2013) [-]
At first, Lincoln was apathetic to the issue of slavery as a politicion until it arose as a problem like with the Kansas-Nebraska Act and so on, but after a while he stood against it as a war aim during the civil war and eventually for moral reasons. The initial reason for the Proclamation was to weaken the south, not necessarily attempt to free every slave because not a single slave was initially freed.
#305 - coolcalx (06/28/2013) [-]
wrong. Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union, which meant ending the war. The South was literally ready to surrender when he pushed for the 13th amendment's passing. His cabinet was incredibly angry at him because his passing of the 13th amendment would mean a prolonged extension of the war
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