One of the many reasons I keep 4 gallons of water in my room.

yeah my bad, servers must be lagging or something because I can't even see those posts.

My 6th grade science teacher was like this. He was also a profound artist and novelist as well as a Vietnam vet. He ended up cussing out our asswipe principle because she was going to get some little nerdy white kid expelled because he got jumped by a group of mexican gangsters and then came back to school the next day, told them to meet him in the field across the school, and then pulled out his Dad's .45 on them. The science teacher said he agreed with what the kid did all all these tough-ass bullies need to be scared shitless every once in a while. He ended up getting fired and then going drinking, and drove his Tahoe into someone's house after a heart attack. Fuck yeah, Mr. Heinz!

Because you can't take scripture half literal and half metaphorical, it just doesn't work like that. You have to pick one or the other, if you pick both I can't seriously respect that you believe in it. Either God literally did all of those things, or it's all a metaphor. Either way it doesn't make much sense when you analyze it.

All right then let me prove my point, do you believe the story of Adam and Eve? Now ask yourself do you believe in evolution? You can't have both if you want to be a Christian. Believing in evolution means we we're not built in God's image and the original sin never happened. This completely negates the Bible's point. You either believe the Adam and Eve story, which means you can't believe in evolution, or you can't be a Christian because you don't believe in the most important story of the Bible. If you can somehow make both evolution and creationism work then please explain don't just say they can.

The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief by Francis Collins

Also, why do you have to take the stories in the Bible literally to be a Christian? Now, correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus preached in parables, stories that to the naked eye seem nonsensical but when a deeper meaning is explored, you find the true moral. Since Jesus spoke the word of God, what makes you think that the Old Testament can't be that way as well?

Because you can't take scripture half literal and half metaphorical, it just doesn't work like that. You have to pick one or the other, if you pick both I can't seriously respect that you believe in it. Either God literally did all of those things, or it's all a metaphor. Either way it doesn't make much sense when you analyze it.

But why believe in a modern religion, like Christianity for example, if you have to change around all the details to make it fit for you?

Where the hell do you even come up with this bullshit? Seriously? Changing details?
You're incredibly ignorant about everything.

All right then let me prove my point, do you believe the story of Adam and Eve? Now ask yourself do you believe in evolution? You can't have both if you want to be a Christian. Believing in evolution means we we're not built in God's image and the original sin never happened. This completely negates the Bible's point. You either believe the Adam and Eve story, which means you can't believe in evolution, or you can't be a Christian because you don't believe in the most important story of the Bible. If you can somehow make both evolution and creationism work then please explain don't just say they can.

The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief by Francis Collins

Also, why do you have to take the stories in the Bible literally to be a Christian? Now, correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus preached in parables, stories that to the naked eye seem nonsensical but when a deeper meaning is explored, you find the true moral. Since Jesus spoke the word of God, what makes you think that the Old Testament can't be that way as well?

Because you can't take scripture half literal and half metaphorical, it just doesn't work like that. You have to pick one or the other, if you pick both I can't seriously respect that you believe in it. Either God literally did all of those things, or it's all a metaphor. Either way it doesn't make much sense when you analyze it.

But I'm just saying from my perspective, if you don't believe in all the details of the creation story you shouldn't believe in the entire religion. Why not be agnostic? Religious people to me just tend to change the details and story to make it work, or to make it something they want it to be when it's not.

Are you fucking serious?
I'm not going to be agnostic.
Agnostics to me just tend to be ignorant hypocrits who don't even consider various possibilities and instead bash religion out of pure prejudice.

But why believe in a modern religion, like Christianity for example, if you have to change around all the details to make it fit for you?

Where the hell do you even come up with this bullshit? Seriously? Changing details?
You're incredibly ignorant about everything.

All right then let me prove my point, do you believe the story of Adam and Eve? Now ask yourself do you believe in evolution? You can't have both if you want to be a Christian. Believing in evolution means we we're not built in God's image and the original sin never happened. This completely negates the Bible's point. You either believe the Adam and Eve story, which means you can't believe in evolution, or you can't be a Christian because you don't believe in the most important story of the Bible. If you can somehow make both evolution and creationism work then please explain don't just say they can.

The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief by Francis Collins

Also, why do you have to take the stories in the Bible literally to be a Christian? Now, correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus preached in parables, stories that to the naked eye seem nonsensical but when a deeper meaning is explored, you find the true moral. Since Jesus spoke the word of God, what makes you think that the Old Testament can't be that way as well?

Because you can't take scripture half literal and half metaphorical, it just doesn't work like that. You have to pick one or the other, if you pick both I can't seriously respect that you believe in it. Either God literally did all of those things, or it's all a metaphor. Either way it doesn't make much sense when you analyze it.

An atheist here and out of honest curiosity what's the difference in the two? (not being a dick just want to know)

To believe that God created the universe is one thing, but saying that existence is 6000 years old and that dinosaurs never existed and that evolution doesn't exist is another.

But I'm just saying from my perspective, if you don't believe in all the details of the creation story you shouldn't believe in the entire religion. Why not be agnostic? Religious people to me just tend to change the details and story to make it work, or to make it something they want it to be when it's not.

Are you fucking serious?
I'm not going to be agnostic.
Agnostics to me just tend to be ignorant hypocrits who don't even consider various possibilities and instead bash religion out of pure prejudice.

But why believe in a modern religion, like Christianity for example, if you have to change around all the details to make it fit for you?

Where the hell do you even come up with this bullshit? Seriously? Changing details?
You're incredibly ignorant about everything.

All right then let me prove my point, do you believe the story of Adam and Eve? Now ask yourself do you believe in evolution? You can't have both if you want to be a Christian. Believing in evolution means we we're not built in God's image and the original sin never happened. This completely negates the Bible's point. You either believe the Adam and Eve story, which means you can't believe in evolution, or you can't be a Christian because you don't believe in the most important story of the Bible. If you can somehow make both evolution and creationism work then please explain don't just say they can.

The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief by Francis Collins

Also, why do you have to take the stories in the Bible literally to be a Christian? Now, correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus preached in parables, stories that to the naked eye seem nonsensical but when a deeper meaning is explored, you find the true moral. Since Jesus spoke the word of God, what makes you think that the Old Testament can't be that way as well?

Because you can't take scripture half literal and half metaphorical, it just doesn't work like that. You have to pick one or the other, if you pick both I can't seriously respect that you believe in it. Either God literally did all of those things, or it's all a metaphor. Either way it doesn't make much sense when you analyze it.

well i'm sorry if i offended you, but know i'm not judging people with a religion

I'm not really offended. I know that Funnyjunk predominantly atheist. Just another face in the crowd.

i'm not judging christians, i really don't give a fuck what somones religon is

But really, you do because saying "fuck God" is sort of judging all religions in general.
At least that's what I took of it.

well i'm sorry if i offended you, but know i'm not judging people with a religion

I'm not really offended. I know that Funnyjunk predominantly atheist. Just another face in the crowd.

well i really don't know if god is real or not, noone can. i think it's an opinion thing on in which way he does or doesn't exist, and in my opinion he probably doesn't. but if he does, think about 9/11, the holocaust, dar fur, the u.s.a bombing japan twice, what the fuck kind of god sits back and lets that happen? if there is a god, he doesn't give a fuck about us.

Relatively, those things are bad. However, since no universal set of ethics exists, humans cannot be the judge of those actions.

Christians leave it up to God to judge existence. It's canonical belief that since we have all sinned in our lifetimes and done injustice to God the creator, God cannot be just in the sense that nothing we can ever do can repay him the debt we owe.

Therefore, all human suffering is really more like a sacrifice. Of course, God grieves with us and shares our suffering, for "whatever you have done to the least of my brethren, you have done to me."

The only truly good human was Jesus and he suffered for the sins of the not-so-good.

I hope this gives you a better understanding or that you won't be so judgemental of Christians. It's no one's place to judge.

i'm not judging christians, i really don't give a fuck what somones religon is

But really, you do because saying "fuck God" is sort of judging all religions in general.
At least that's what I took of it.

well i'm sorry if i offended you, but know i'm not judging people with a religion

I'm not really offended. I know that Funnyjunk predominantly atheist. Just another face in the crowd.

because he obviously fucks with us for entertainment, and i hate that

Boo fucking hoo, the most powerful being in the universe (assuming he exists) doesn't cater to your every need.

I'm Atheist btw

You accidentally George Carlin.

thats not what im saying. i know if he exists he doesnt cater to everyones every need. but he fucking tortures us for entertainement if he is out there. I personally don't beleive he exists.

Okay, I'll play along. How does he torture us for his own amusement? I'm agnostic btw - not a hardcore religious zealot, even though I sometimes sound like it.

Better argument than his. God gives humans powerful Sex Drive. Not allowed to have sex though. Stupid shit like that. He either exists and is an asshole or exists and doesn't pay us any attention and we create the stupid laws like that or he just doesnt exist.

^my belief.

think about 9/11, the holocaust, dar fur, the u.s.a bombing japan twice, what the fuck kind of god sits back and lets that happen? if there is a god, he doesn't give a fuck about us.

well first of all, if you are looking at this from a christian standpoint then you would realize that it isn't that he doesn't give a fuck, it's that God gave us free will. Free will to fly plains into what we wan't, go on a genocide if we want, and drop bombs on whatever we want. do you have a problem with free will? do you not like being able to do whatever you want?

think back.. did these events just randomly happen? the towers just fell, millions of people just dropped dead and two spontaneous nuclear explosions went off in japan? no. people fucking did it. people are fucking fucked up, not God. now get over it

well i know people did that. and i'm an atheist. but if there is a god that let this happen, doesn't that piss you off?

If a teenage girl is pregnant, do you instantly blame the parents?

No, you rest most of the blame on her and call her a cunt.

no, we're given free will. we choose what we do. God just lets it happen. if anything i'm pissed at the people that chose to put themselves out there and do terrible things to other people out of belligerent resentment

Exactly - and why the fuck WOULD he give a fuck about us? That doesn't make him evil, that just makes him (if he exists) apathic. That's not really for his entertainment? :)

hey, all i'm saying is if he exists, he either doesn't care about us or fucking hates us ;p

But it says in the Bible that God has no control over human's actions, he can't manipulate free will.
Imagine it like having one of those junior ant farm things. You create the "world" for the ants and watch the ants grow, but you can't do fuck all when the little shits start eating eachother.

if he can't control us he's not omnipotent, therefore not truly and fully a god in my opinion

It's not that he can't, it's that he chooses not to. Because life without freedom of decision isn't life at all. Would you rather be a free man or a puppet?

good point

I find entertainment in killing your family and raping the corpses. You're right; nobody should get in the way of me and my fun.

dude what the fuck?

Or maybe you're speculating based off of your limited knowledge of what God is?

well i really don't know if god is real or not, noone can. i think it's an opinion thing on in which way he does or doesn't exist, and in my opinion he probably doesn't. but if he does, think about 9/11, the holocaust, dar fur, the u.s.a bombing japan twice, what the fuck kind of god sits back and lets that happen? if there is a god, he doesn't give a fuck about us.

Relatively, those things are bad. However, since no universal set of ethics exists, humans cannot be the judge of those actions.

Christians leave it up to God to judge existence. It's canonical belief that since we have all sinned in our lifetimes and done injustice to God the creator, God cannot be just in the sense that nothing we can ever do can repay him the debt we owe.

Therefore, all human suffering is really more like a sacrifice. Of course, God grieves with us and shares our suffering, for "whatever you have done to the least of my brethren, you have done to me."

The only truly good human was Jesus and he suffered for the sins of the not-so-good.

I hope this gives you a better understanding or that you won't be so judgemental of Christians. It's no one's place to judge.

i'm not judging christians, i really don't give a fuck what somones religon is

But really, you do because saying "fuck God" is sort of judging all religions in general.
At least that's what I took of it.

well i'm sorry if i offended you, but know i'm not judging people with a religion

I'm not really offended. I know that Funnyjunk predominantly atheist. Just another face in the crowd.