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|#19 - I'm a garbage collector and I make 21 dollars an hour on a 12… [+] (39 new replies)||09/25/2013 on Liberals||+47|
#88 - anonymous (09/26/2013) [-]
So you have spending money.
#60 - heartlessrobot (09/25/2013) [-]
Right, because we should totally have a lower minimum wage, giving people incentive to live off of welfare as a leech to society instead of actually working. Fuck you, people like you are the reason we have so many god damn leeches ruining the economy of this country and dragging it further into debt by not providing anything for all they take.
#169 - breadbasket (09/26/2013) [-]
You say that like the president has any say about what goes on in this country.
Obama has nothing to do with it.
In politics, there are no liberals, repulbicans, democrats, or whatever.
That only exists within the population, and the sooner we figure out that the government is all on the same agenda, the sooner we can rise up against it, and actually make a fucking change in this country for once.
#62 - heartlessrobot (09/25/2013) [-]
Raise the minimum wage, lower welfare. Adjust it so people can live off of minimum wage, but can barely get by on welfare. People that need welfare will be happy they can still live off of it, and people that abuse the system will find it no longer works in their favor.
#69 - byposted (09/26/2013) [-]
Do you realize what you would be doing by increasing the minimum wage to twenty dollars? It is the most short-sighted method you can take in regards to the economy. To say that the value of the lowest strata of labor (mopping floors, flipping burgers) is worth twenty dollars a hour will devalue the currency accordingly and will effect how eager employers are to hire.
>people that need welfare will be happy they can still live off of it
In reality, they would not have jobs and would need even more subsidy from the government to support themselves.
#76 - byposted (09/26/2013) [-]
Your first post pushed the idea of the minimum wage becoming twenty-one dollars. Now you are suggesting some magical formula be created so that welfare leechers can live on their own.
What, in your opinion, is a liveable wage between the current federal minimum wage ($7.25/h) and the wage you now consider "too high" ($21.00/h).
#79 - heartlessrobot (09/26/2013) [-]
Look, I said that's what it would be if it were raised proportionally, not what would be best.
I'd say 10-11 bucks and hour should be plenty. I haven't done the math on price/income/work hours recently, but last time I worked up the math for this in a class, I got somewhere between 10 and 11 dollars.
#85 - byposted (09/26/2013) [-]
And did this mathematical estimate you came up with take into account a proportionate increase of living standards so as to measure the "ideal minimum income?"
California has just passed a bill which would raise their minimum wage to $10.00/h by 2016. They already have hell-high living costs there and this will only push it further. I don't know any credible economist who claims that this will fix the welfare issue. None say anything like it!
Currency's worth is not just some abstract number that can magically be raised by the government or the currency manipulators in the FED. All people who are concerned about welfare leeches acknowledge that raising the minimum wage will not fix the issue. What you would effectively do by raising the minimum wage any amount is making some people in the lower strata of society richer, while the rest in this class get poorer.
#87 - heartlessrobot (09/26/2013) [-]
Very well, if you think you can deduce a way to fix our economical system, how about you fuckin' run for president? Oh wait, we're royally fucked every which-way, and all I can hope for is that I die before shit gets so bad I can't even afford a fucking cemetery plot!
#90 - byposted (09/26/2013) [-]
I'm not even that knowledgeable in economics myself. I plan to educate myself accordingly in these coming years but you are outright contradicting yourself by wanting the welfare problem to be solved and wanting the minimum wage to be raised. This is basic theory we're speaking of.
Consider that liberals want a higher minimum wage while also being in a romance with the welfare state. Under Obama, welfare has been given out like hotcakes to these very leeches you speak of.
Conservatives want a self-operating economy with minimal social-spending and intervention. As such, they realize that raising the minimum wage is not good for business or the status of poorer workers.
#46 - mikesch (09/25/2013) [-]
Yeah, well, but most people are only thinking of "Thank god there's police" or thank the military and all that shit, but here in my country, I thank the garbage men, because they do the work that I would not want to do. However, in my country, they get a relatively high amount of money, which is good in my opinion.
I've great respect for these guys. Therefore for you too.
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